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Is This Considered Lucid Dreaming?

 
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I have around three horrific and intense nightmares every month. Right before the dream gets too bad and the scariest part happens, it's like my mind suddenly realizes "hey, this is just a dream; you can wake up from this at any time" and my mind begins to claw its way toward consciousness, like breaking the surface of a lake after being under water. This is a recent development, which I believe started right after my bad dreams began getting so intense and vivid.

For example, one time I dreamed that I was at a party. I went upstairs and I walked into a bedroom and this guy was holding a dead body (holding it in front of him by the collar and the waistband-kinda like a shield) and he said "here, catch!" and he slowly moved his arms back like he was going to pitch the corpse on me and the corpse started hurtling toward me in slow motion, but before it actually touched me, my mind said "no, wake up wake up!!" And I did. My mind will also wake me up before dying in other nightmare scenarios such as tornadoes and plane crashes.

I can do this with almost every nightmare. Is this lucid dreaming? If so, I'm considering looking into how I can control regular dreams (if I have the knack for it.)

Thank you.
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No.... You are just having nightmares....




In Lucid Dreaming, you discover that you can control....



Therefore no fear in Lucid Dreaming..
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Not to me, are you a spiritual person and believe in God? Rebuke it then. I have only had 2 nightmares in my lifetime, so I would say they are not normal.
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In my youth I had very lucid dreams.

Your becoming lucid to escape the bad.

Wait until "you know" your in your bed sleeping, when the dream starts.

I actually told a character in a dream the date, my address and said I was in a dream.

He looked Spanish and just shook his head like he had know idea what I was saying.

hmm
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Not to me, are you a spiritual person and believe in God? Rebuke it then. I have only had 2 nightmares in my lifetime, so I would say they are not normal.
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I can't say I'm a spiritual person. I think Seroquel XR is the main contributor to the intensity of my nightmares. I do appreciate your response, however.
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In my youth I had very lucid dreams.

Your becoming lucid to escape the bad.

Wait until "you know" your in your bed sleeping, when the dream starts.

I actually told a character in a dream the date, my address and said I was in a dream.

He looked Spanish and just shook his head like he had know idea what I was saying.

hmm
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Interesting. Maybe the Spaniard didn't know he was in the dream.
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No.... You are just having nightmares....




In Lucid Dreaming, you discover that you can control....



Therefore no fear in Lucid Dreaming..
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That makes sense. Thank you for your response.
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In my youth I had very lucid dreams.

Your becoming lucid to escape the bad.

Wait until "you know" your in your bed sleeping, when the dream starts.

I actually told a character in a dream the date, my address and said I was in a dream.

He looked Spanish and just shook his head like he had know idea what I was saying.

hmm
 Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry


Interesting. Maybe the Spaniard didn't know he was in the dream.
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It was vivid and lucid...

Toward the end I reached a young short haired blond girl at a stone bridge...

I asked her "And who are you suppose to be ?" as I gestered at her with a pointed finger...

She quickly scratched the top of my hand like a cat...

As I drew back my hand in pain I asked...

"Why did you do that !?"

She smirked and cocked her head and said...

"Idono it's your dream, you tell me !"

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It sounds like a good start to me. Realizing you are dreaming is the beginning of being able to control your dreams. You also have a good dream recall and can recognize that parts are vivid. I don't see why you can't go ahead and learn lucid dreaming, you can develop the knack. IMO it's a birthright, not a talent.
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face your fears. relax in the absolute knowledge you're indestructible and cant be harmed while sleeping. it helps to reaffirm this a few times as you fall asleep.

if you can simply stand still and relax instead of running away or forcing yourself awake, you'll be tremendously rewarded
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face your fears. relax in the absolute knowledge you're indestructible and cant be harmed while sleeping. it helps to reaffirm this a few times as you fall asleep.

if you can simply stand still and relax instead of running away or forcing yourself awake, you'll be tremendously rewarded
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It sounds like a good start to me. Realizing you are dreaming is the beginning of being able to control your dreams. You also have a good dream recall and can recognize that parts are vivid. I don't see why you can't go ahead and learn lucid dreaming, you can develop the knack. IMO it's a birthright, not a talent.
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Thank you, I didn't think of it that way. I'll have to pursue this further. I enjoy this topic.
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Next time you realize you're having a dream. Look at your hands and ask if this is real or is it dream. Once you're lucid, don't try to wake up. Fly away from the danger, change the dream. Or picture a huge trampoline and think Higher Self, Oversoul and Source/Creator, and JUMP out of the duality for lessons and answers, and for advanced learning. Could learn 4 years of college in a night.

Don't settle for the silly nonsense, if you can control the dream its lucid, and that means, go for the jack pot answers.
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face your fears. relax in the absolute knowledge you're indestructible and cant be harmed while sleeping. it helps to reaffirm this a few times as you fall asleep.

if you can simply stand still and relax instead of running away or forcing yourself awake, you'll be tremendously rewarded
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I'm going to write your comment down and study it before I go to sleep -- at least until this becomes innate. Thank you very much for this.
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Next time you realize you're having a dream. Look at your hands and ask if this is real or is it dream. Once you're lucid, don't try to wake up. Fly away from the danger, change the dream. Or picture a huge trampoline and think Higher Self, Oversoul and Source/Creator, and JUMP out of the duality for lessons and answers, and for advanced learning. Could learn 4 years of college in a night.

Don't settle for the silly nonsense, if you can control the dream its lucid, and that means, go for the jack pot answers.
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Next time you realize you're having a dream. Look at your hands and ask if this is real or is it dream. Once you're lucid, don't try to wake up. Fly away from the danger, change the dream. Or picture a huge trampoline and think Higher Self, Oversoul and Source/Creator, and JUMP out of the duality for lessons and answers, and for advanced learning. Could learn 4 years of college in a night.

Don't settle for the silly nonsense, if you can control the dream its lucid, and that means, go for the jack pot answers.
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This
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So, if I'm lucid dreaming I should think about Higher Self then?

But somewhere I read Higher Self is just the entire universal subconsciousness? Or isn't it?

I ask this, because once in my dream I became lucid but the excitenment and sheer awe woke me up... I didn't have a plan so to say.
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I recently had a dream where something in the dream triggered me to notice it was a dream - I was going along doing typical dream nonsense when a book was handed to me that didn't look like it should. I thought it was strange, looked at it again, and it was the way it should have been. That woke me up within the dream.

Then I looked over, saw a demon, prepared to fight it, and woke up.

It felt significant. I don't know if the source of the book was protecting me or malevolent.

I shouldn't write this just before bed, as now I'm all creeped out again, but your post brought it to mind.

I have had lucid dreams in the past that were more positive.

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Yes! Lucid Dreaming = While you are asleep, during a dream, you become aware that you are asleep and having a dream. :D

This can happen in any dream, not just nightmares.

Some folks say that taking a multi Vit B tablet just before bed has helped them to do lucid dreaming more often.

One thing you can do with lucid dreaming, with practice, is to change the ending of a dream. It feels like you've suddenly become a script writer, (while still asleep and dreaming), and just changed the script to the way you want it.

I've done this so many times while dreaming that I've been able to change it a couple times during the same dream. Didn't like the first change, so just changed it again. I even woke up laffing one time cuz the dream turned out so funny.

My dog was looking at me strangely tho. lol

Now that's all said, let me address another part of your post. You mentioned having three "horrific and intense nightmares" every month. I need for you to realize that 'nightmares' of any kind are simply 'ramped up dreams', intended by your subconscious to 'get your attention' in waking life. A nightmare is simply a 'wake up call', so to speak. Something that is going on in your waking life, that your mind NEEDS for you to understand, so you can deal with whatever it is.

When we dream, (regular dreams), it's our minds way of reviewing what is going on in our waking life, and sends back messages to us about our daily experiences. And etc. If there is an urgent message we NEED to understand about something, our mind will deliver a dream in the form of a nightmare to get our attention. Does that make sense? Once we understand the message in a recurring nightmare, we won't have that same nightmare again.

So one important thing for you to do, besides embracing and practicing lucid dreaming... is to figure out what message your mind is presenting to you in the form of nightmares. You'll want to find what this message could be, before you try to change the dreams (nightmares) using lucid dreaming.

omigosh, there's so much more i could say. i think it's best to take it a bit at a time tho, and not give a wall of text.

I'll watch this thread in case you have further questions.

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Next time you realize you're having a dream. Look at your hands and ask if this is real or is it dream. Once you're lucid, don't try to wake up. Fly away from the danger, change the dream. Or picture a huge trampoline and think Higher Self, Oversoul and Source/Creator, and JUMP out of the duality for lessons and answers, and for advanced learning. Could learn 4 years of college in a night.

Don't settle for the silly nonsense, if you can control the dream its lucid, and that means, go for the jack pot answers.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


This
 Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry


So, if I'm lucid dreaming I should think about Higher Self then?

But somewhere I read Higher Self is just the entire universal subconsciousness? Or isn't it?

I ask this, because once in my dream I became lucid but the excitenment and sheer awe woke me up... I didn't have a plan so to say.
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No, you're an infinite part of infinity. Infinity is always something, not nothing by the way, because like in the Double Slit experiment where the molecule interfered with possibilities to create the wave, this is how reality is, all the possibilities. But void is void, its nothing, so only what is remains. Infinity is within and without all things, and fractals.

There is also no time, so you already are your progressed infinite self and this stage is just walking the steps.

M'Kenna talked about the eschaton, and how we are not pushed from behind, as in evolution, but PULLED from ahead.

Nor are we a part of the Universe. Only our bodies, the vehicles we drive.

This is a test tube reality, sort of like a virus vault actually to learn love in. Infinite Consciousness is not a Duality, is both in Unity and Infinite Progressed Individuals who like Fractals are Connected.

I've had the veil lift quite a few times and more of me flood in. Its like flood gates open.

As you start to overcome life, the world, its programs, and start to try and help those around you, meditate and pray, Higher Self drops more and more of yourself in, like filling a perfect cup of tea. Another metaphor, the Lotus Flower or the Lily of the Valley, blossoms forth.

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I have around three horrific and intense nightmares every month. Right before the dream gets too bad and the scariest part happens, it's like my mind suddenly realizes "hey, this is just a dream; you can wake up from this at any time" and my mind begins to claw its way toward consciousness, like breaking the surface of a lake after being under water. This is a recent development, which I believe started right after my bad dreams began getting so intense and vivid.

For example, one time I dreamed that I was at a party. I went upstairs and I walked into a bedroom and this guy was holding a dead body (holding it in front of him by the collar and the waistband-kinda like a shield) and he said "here, catch!" and he slowly moved his arms back like he was going to pitch the corpse on me and the corpse started hurtling toward me in slow motion, but before it actually touched me, my mind said "no, wake up wake up!!" And I did. My mind will also wake me up before dying in other nightmare scenarios such as tornadoes and plane crashes.

I can do this with almost every nightmare. Is this lucid dreaming? If so, I'm considering looking into how I can control regular dreams (if I have the knack for it.)

Thank you.
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if you can take a sane advice

stop this lucid dreaming stuff
it might destroy your mental balance

try not to involve in these dangerous things
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Thanks everyone for your comments.





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