Hurry Up Jesus . . . Before the Christians Drive Us Crazy

Tip for you, his not coming back.

If we could speak to the animals ...

Get a dog, mans best friend!

if He's not coming back, then what are we waiting for?

People are waiting becuase the have been subverted by the pentecost movement. John Nelson Darby ... his the idiot people can thank for his rapture mumbo jumbo.

People who believe that are not really christians im afraid.

They now have an excuse to sit on their arse and do nothing, thinking Jesus will come back to save them. And hasn't society suffered as a result.

The British are most happy with this outcome.

There is something really wrong with you if you want to diss Christians like this. It is the opposite of all instructions he gave his disciples.

Shame on you.

It strange, I grew up catholic and never thought of Jesus as coming back or armaggedon etc.

I now I find without 'trying' that I do believe in the return of the being, Jesus, not in the way many do, but I feel very confident. And while I believe it's already occured, I think there is more to come and that it will be as no one experts not even I.

And just to add: I will confess that I feel unshakeable confident...for those that may wish to convince me of the error of my beliefs.
And while I have no ill will toward anyone, if not one other person believed as I do ...that's fine with me.

Who me?? not my fault they have been brainwashed.

Jesus would be ashamed of this rapture bullshit! ...considering the evil buggers who brought it to the USA and churches world wide.

There's a hard edge developing in Paradise's posts of late. S/He is twisting other peoples' writings and is in effect mocking them and playing games with serious seekers of truth on this board.

here is a 'contentious spirit' that we speak of, calling names and spreading divisions . . . that is why we need Jesus to hurry up.

Paradise.

You are probably a lovely person. Do check this out. And tell me if you think this is a lie.

From here

FUNDAMENTALISM IN AMERICA
[link to www.larouchepub.com]


Darby and the Cult of the Rapture
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The growth of churches associated with revivalism continued in the United States during the 1850s, as these were troubling times. The nation was divided over slavery, with a civil war looming. As often has occurred in U.S. history during such confusing times of existential crisis, an operation was launched from Britain, taking advantage of the tension associated with the crisis to divert attention away from effective political action. Once again, many Americans retreated into the search for personal salvation, a search that was given a boost, in 1857, with the arrival of the Plymouth Brethren of John Nelson Darby.

The Brethren was founded in 1830, around the belief that the Second Coming of Christ would occur not as a single event, but in two stages. Darby took the beliefs of one Margaret Macdonald, who was from a family engaged in "healing" and "speaking in tongues," and developed from them a complicated eschatology—a doctrine dealing with the "final judgment" and the "End Times." Darby preached that the "Rapture of the church," when the true Christians would be lifted directly to Heaven, was coming soon, along with the return of Jesus.

His doctrine held that the Rapture would soon be followed by the Tribulation, during which the Antichrist will reign and the sinful are punished. The Tribulation period ends with the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ. This doctrine is called pre-millennial dispensationalism: "pre-millennial," because Christ returns and engages in the Battle of Armageddon, to usher in a millennium of peace.[19]

Darby's teachings were compatible, on the whole, with previous revivalist theologies. He taught that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, and that it is only through Jesus' death and sacrifice that man can be redeemed. In keeping with millennial movements of the past, his doctrine appealed most to those who were frightened and who felt little and impotent, and who saw the world as a mysterious and hostile place. This teaching offers comfort to those paralyzed by their fears and impotence, as it turns their recognition of the decline of civilization into a cause for celebration, as a sign of the impending return of Jesus Christ. If one's faith is strong enough and one has accepted that the sole path to salvation was paved by Jesus’ suffering, his theory goes, then Rapture will be the reward.

The promotion of Darbyism was run through the Niagra Bible Conference, a series of annual events which began in 1875. For the next 22 Summers, these conferences served as the recruitment ground for spreading Darbyism to American church leaders, particularly within the "conservative" denominations. The term "fundamentalist" was first used to describe the "conservatives" attending the Niagra conferences.

But the popularizing of Darby was boosted primarily with the publication of the Scofield Reference Bible, which was first published in 1909, by Oxford University Press. The author was Cyrus I. Scofield, a veteran of the Confederate Army, who was run out of Kansas after the Civil War for his shady dealings. Scofield was recruited to Darby's outlook by Dr. James Brookes, a leader of the Niagra Conferences. When the former ne'er-do-well Scofield was ordained as a minister, the Topeka, Kansas, Daily Capital newspaper described him as a "politician and shyster generally ... this peer among scalawags," who had left Kansas four years earlier "after a series of forgeries and confidence games."

However, after being named the pastor at the First Congregational Church in Dallas in 1882, Scofield's project of writing a biblical commentary which would prove that Darby was right gained some well-heeled backers, including Lyman Stewart, president of the Union Oil Company of California and a group of real estate brokers and Wall Street investors.

The other prominent promoter of Darby's doctrines was D.L. Moody, whose Moody Bible College was at the center of the next wave of revivalism.

The importance of Darby's work is clear in the depraved fiction of Rapture popularizer Tim LaHaye, whose "Left Behind" series flows from Darby's pre-millennial doctrine. John Walvoord, another promoter of Darby who was the long-serving president of Dallas Theological Seminary, said that "Much of the Truth promulgated by fundamental Christians today had its rebirth in the movement known as the 'Plymouth Brethren.' "

its the 2witness/144,000 end time apostle tour coming to a town near you

Jesus doesn't want robots to greet Him, but inspired servants doing what they can . . . what are you disagreeing with?

This is like telling Santa Claus to bring presents right now, or the Easter Bunny to bring his delicious eggs. We must wait, and only when THEY deem the preparations right do great beings come to us, often in the middle of the night.

Ok, Sparkles went and laid back down for another nap and I still didn't trot off ...

Aussie . . . i know what you are saying and respect your views, i respect all views . . . my main belief is in the 2 witnesses and i believe that they will get us ready for whatever it is we need to get ready for.

I'm open to whatever happens, remain flexible, God works in myserious ways, i am not privy to God's plan because of course there is massive disagreement among Christians on every last doctrine in the Bible

so i just say, OK . . . lets listen to the 2 witnesses, experience that and then go on from there.

Nice to see you. The board is humming again tonight as it was several nights back. :)

"I'm open to whatever happens, remain flexible, God works in myserious ways, i am not privy to God's plan because of course there is ((((((((massive disagreement among Christians on every last doctrine in the Bible"))))))

Too true, but the source of the rot is known.

the 2 witnesses gather them, that's what the tour is all about, gathering time.

I have to admit when the 'christians' which i pronounce kris-t-ens for some reason...quick somebody analyze that...
start throwing quotes back and forth and thumpin' that book...
I get really tickled...don't you?

"the 2 witnesses gather them, that's what the tour is all about, gathering time."
Nice! 144,000 timeline how much more do you know of this?

especially when they threaten each other with hell and stuff in the name of Jesus...it's so ludicrous.

"start throwing quotes back and forth and thumpin' that book..."

Gives me the shits.

You are right, *Jesus* is not coming back, but *Michael* (Jesus, in his divine form), the Destroyer, is. That is the part that only a small group of people seem to realize. He is not coming back as a 'lamb', He is coming back as a 'lion'.

Exactly why Jesus would be ashamed.

you sound like you are desparate to find some evil to shout about, the type that only feels they can be saved by defeating and denouncing instead of loving.

no use trying to change that mindset, but when you see the 2 witnesses you will be changed, i won't do the changing of you but they will, that is all i am saying . . . "make straight the way of the Lord . . . the 2 witnesses will now be here and you will have the chance to meet them

will you take that chance?

The two witnesses that you guys are speaking of have to be big mushroom clouds. :)

Jesus is waiting until the Zionist manipulators can collect enough money to pay his travel expenses.

Hurry Up Jesus . . . Before the Christians Drive Us Crazy


hahhahaa

i think it's almost too late . . . some of them are doing their best
to 'rebuke' as they put it . . .

wonder what kind of rebuking they will do when You arrive?