Physics: WHAT If I Told You The Mass Into Space Is Irrelevant Since It Have NO Weight | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59277036 United Kingdom 08/14/2014 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, since OP is convinced rockets do not work in space, I guess the satellites he uses for his phone just magically align themselves in orbit w/o small rockets. Quoting: --Voltaic-- There are no man made objects in your fictional space. Wrong. Just a few examples. I've observed countless satellites in space. So you can observe the so called ISS in your space in daylight can you? For all the common sense thinkers on here, I'd like you to have a think about this video of the ISS as we are told it is. This ISS is allegedly around 250 miles in the blackness of space, yet some random amateur captures it with his/her camera in broad daylight. Felix Baumgartner, the red bull supposed free fall from space jumper, supposedly jumped from a height of 28 miles or whatever. I'd like anyone to view the footage of that balloon supposedly taken from the ground. Does anyone see any blue sky? Now back to the ISS at around 250 miles or 205 to 270 miles depending on how they issue the bullshit out...but there we see it, in a nice blue sky as clear as (cough) day. Now ask yourself this. And use your very own logical common sense without the aid of peer pressure. Do you see anything wrong in this? One more thing. I thought this was a conspiracy site for people to discuss conspiracies. If so, I'd love an answer as to why a person like Astro is a forum moderator. Can anyone explain that one to me? Those of you who pay money to this site, who are genuine questioning people, does it seem right to you that a confirmed denier of ANY and EVERY conspiracy theory is a moderator? |
NervousAndJerky
User ID: 60300858 United States 08/14/2014 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add inertia to mass in space and it becomes very relevant. |
Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 08/14/2014 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, since OP is convinced rockets do not work in space, I guess the satellites he uses for his phone just magically align themselves in orbit w/o small rockets. Quoting: --Voltaic-- There are no man made objects in your fictional space. Wrong. Just a few examples. I've observed countless satellites in space. So you can observe the so called ISS in your space in daylight can you? Of course. It has greater surface brightness than the surface of the moon, which is naturally visible in broad daylight. The trick is finding it, fortunately my telescope is capable of automatically tracking it based on its orbital elements, with a little assistance from my laptop. For all the common sense thinkers on here, I'd like you to have a think about this video of the ISS as we are told it is. Quoting: ACTranslation: I want the idiots on here to think that this video should be impossible. This ISS is allegedly around 250 miles in the blackness of space, yet some random amateur captures it with his/her camera in broad daylight. Quoting: ACThe moon's far higher than that. Felix Baumgartner, the red bull supposed free fall from space jumper, supposedly jumped from a height of 28 miles or whatever. Quoting: ACI'd like anyone to view the footage of that balloon supposedly taken from the ground. Does anyone see any blue sky? Yup. [link to www.blimpinfo.com] One more thing. I thought this was a conspiracy site for people to discuss conspiracies. If so, I'd love an answer as to why a person like Astro is a forum moderator. Quoting: ACConspiracy does not equal buying into asinine bullshit that makes the forum look retarded. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47938245 United States 08/14/2014 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | E=MC2 is nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59277036 The trouble with all this nonsensical science to do with space, speed of light and all the rest of it, is that it's supposedly backed up by these put forwrd into the limelight, geniuses that are no more than puppets parroting fictional bullshit. Weight is a man made measurement of atmospheric pressure on mass/density. Take away atmospheric pressure and you take away weight measurement. E=MC2 has been proven experimentally and is derived from other proven equations. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't work. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47938245 United States 08/14/2014 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, since OP is convinced rockets do not work in space, I guess the satellites he uses for his phone just magically align themselves in orbit w/o small rockets. Quoting: --Voltaic-- There are no man made objects in your fictional space. Except for satellite phones. The kind that work from airplanes and in the middle of the ocean when no cell towers are nearby at all. You STILL haven't explained STEREO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47938245 United States 08/14/2014 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47938245 What part of you and a friend separated in distance measure the angle to the Moon at the same time do you not understand? You then have the distance you're separated by and two angles. Basic geometry can give you the lengths of the other two sides of the triangle. There is nothing made up there. What part of if they were in the atmosphere then they wouldn't be visible for an entire hemisphere at the same time do you not understand? The problem here is YOU, not the explanations. Just explain it all as if you and your friend were doing this caluclation Here's what I want from you. I want you to simply explain how you and your friend communicate a calculation based on your positions and by what means to come up with the the size of the sun and rthe moon and also the distance of both. Let me make this a little clearer. I do not want you to mention Eratoshenes or Newton or any other historical name to aid you. I want YOU to tell me how you would do the calculations with the tools you have. After all, it's 2014, it should be a piece of piss, right? So, in laymans terms for those who do not want to see a bunch of bullshit calculations and formulas, just give out the basics and how it comes to be correct. One more thing. You need a reference point to be able to even begin to do this, so what is your reference point and how did you determine this reference point. Are you really as dense as you're appearing? You know the distance that the two people are separated. You both measure angles to the Moon at the same time. You then have 3 parts of a triangle (one side and two angles). You use geometry to figure out the lengths of the other two sides. Anybody else can visualize it from that. The math works and more importantly it gets an answer that agrees with the multiple other methods one can use. They are all consistent. If you still can't get it then I can only assume either you don't want to or you're just trolling. And no, you don't need a reference point. All you need is the distance between the two observers and the angles measured. Ok, I get the two people at a certain distance on Earth. Ok, now for the triangle bit. Tell me how this works to get size and distance of the so called sun and moon? We know the distance of the two people, fair enough. Now for the dodgy bit of making this triangle. Do I really need to explain what a triangle is to you? Or are you trying to prove you really are that dense? The other two sides of the triangle are the distances from each person to the Moon. Once you know the distance you can derive the size. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46705080 Netherlands 08/14/2014 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That and gravity is omni-present. Distance reduces gravity but it never disappears. Like cutting something in half, it keeps getting smaller but never disappears. Quoting: --Voltaic-- In space, an object is pulled from all sides equally. Energy in motion is entropic, spreads from dense to thin. IE, heat, explosions, sound, light, etc Energy at rest is anti-entropic, spreads from thin to dense. Magnets, mass, gravity, surface tension, etc. As usual, you have posted something, a piece, if you will, that I was needing... The way you put things so simply is beautiful. Btw, OP, when we gonna talk about what exactly a photon breaks down into? I just read some new material and I'm excited :) Not sure but I do believe all electromagnetic radiation has a mass counter part. As in, Iron has a specific EM frequency and visa-versa. When the photon can not escape the Sun's pull anymore, it condenses at the edge of the solar system. I suspect the frequency is isolated into a stable sphere. EM must have properties of mass, it has weight. Anything with weight WILL slow down. Can be found in any state. Think about the 5th state of matter (my own discovery). In math, we need a zero to finally be able to calculate and understand math. W/o a zero, formulas become impossible. Same with mass. An empty box, a vacuum inside it. That absence is the 5th state of matter. Plasma Gas Liquid Solid Absence Now we have the zero. Liquid + Absence = Gas It goes further Plasma of the positive kind (no electrons) Solid Liquid Gas Zero anti-gas anti-liquid anti-solid Plasma of the negative kind (no proton or neutron) Liquid + anti-liquid = Zero Solid + anti-gas = Gas state Energy is released. Electricity is bipolar. Two energies meet in the circuit to produce heat ( a by product of cancellation of opposites) I suspect the Sun is a similar device for mass and energy. :) Congratulations. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46705080 Netherlands 08/14/2014 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That and gravity is omni-present. Distance reduces gravity but it never disappears. Like cutting something in half, it keeps getting smaller but never disappears. Quoting: --Voltaic-- In space, an object is pulled from all sides equally. Energy in motion is entropic, spreads from dense to thin. IE, heat, explosions, sound, light, etc Energy at rest is anti-entropic, spreads from thin to dense. Magnets, mass, gravity, surface tension, etc. As usual, you have posted something, a piece, if you will, that I was needing... The way you put things so simply is beautiful. Btw, OP, when we gonna talk about what exactly a photon breaks down into? I just read some new material and I'm excited :) Not sure but I do believe all electromagnetic radiation has a mass counter part. As in, Iron has a specific EM frequency and visa-versa. When the photon can not escape the Sun's pull anymore, it condenses at the edge of the solar system. I suspect the frequency is isolated into a stable sphere. EM must have properties of mass, it has weight. Anything with weight WILL slow down. Can be found in any state. Think about the 5th state of matter (my own discovery). In math, we need a zero to finally be able to calculate and understand math. W/o a zero, formulas become impossible. Same with mass. An empty box, a vacuum inside it. That absence is the 5th state of matter. Plasma Gas Liquid Solid Absence Now we have the zero. Liquid + Absence = Gas It goes further Plasma of the positive kind (no electrons) Solid Liquid Gas Zero anti-gas anti-liquid anti-solid Plasma of the negative kind (no proton or neutron) Liquid + anti-liquid = Zero Solid + anti-gas = Gas state Energy is released. Electricity is bipolar. Two energies meet in the circuit to produce heat ( a by product of cancellation of opposites) I suspect the Sun is a similar device for mass and energy. :) Congratulations. I would like to add.. Void(absence) would be 1st state of the known matter as we define it just like Zero is first number. This is first time I read something so profound on GLP. Congrats and work on this theory of your even more as this sort of understanding is what we really need. |
AgnosticDeity
User ID: 25734277 United States 08/15/2014 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone else feel like the Esurance commercials after reading this? There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. |
FermiSays User ID: 61774724 Italy 08/17/2014 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | E=MC2 is nonsense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59277036 The trouble with all this nonsensical science to do with space, speed of light and all the rest of it, is that it's supposedly backed up by these put forwrd into the limelight, geniuses that are no more than puppets parroting fictional bullshit. Weight is a man made measurement of atmospheric pressure on mass/density. Take away atmospheric pressure and you take away weight measurement. |
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User ID: 61526289 Netherlands 08/17/2014 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok... we are going to fabricate two iron spheres both weighing 1000 tons on Earth. Then we are going to take them out into space. One will remain motionless with you staked down on its surface. Then from a mile or two off we are going to set the other sphere in motion so that it will contact the exact point on the other sphere that you are staked to with a speed of about 5 MPH. So as the sphere comes closer and closer you will have lots of time to contemplate that the mass of the sphere coming towards you is IRRELEVANT. Since I know what the outcome will be I won't be surprised when you don't get back to us about what happened. The really good thing about the outcome will be that we won't have to suffer anymore of you're friggen ignorant posts. "Everybody lies." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59485795 United States 08/17/2014 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Weight/mass is only relative if another mass/weight reacts with it.(IE: The known universe is full of mass that reacts with eachother, keeping the planets in their orbit and so on) Laws of physics, everything has a mass that is calculable, where did your education go haywire? My god, what a stupid thread |
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GuyWithClue User ID: 2132560 Sweden 08/21/2014 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Weight is a man made measurement of atmospheric pressure on mass/density. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59277036 Take away atmospheric pressure and you take away weight measurement. Felix Baumgartner, the red bull supposed free fall from space jumper, supposedly jumped from a height of 28 miles or whatever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59277036 If weight was caused by atmospheric pressure we would have seen Mr Baumgartner free floating as he stepped off his capsule, since the atmospheric pressure at 28 miles is zero. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25579582 United Kingdom 07/09/2016 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That and gravity is omni-present. Distance reduces gravity but it never disappears. Like cutting something in half, it keeps getting smaller but never disappears. Quoting: --Voltaic-- In space, an object is pulled from all sides equally. Energy in motion is entropic, spreads from dense to thin. IE, heat, explosions, sound, light, etc Energy at rest is anti-entropic, spreads from thin to dense. Magnets, mass, gravity, surface tension, etc. As usual, you have posted something, a piece, if you will, that I was needing... The way you put things so simply is beautiful. Btw, OP, when we gonna talk about what exactly a photon breaks down into? I just read some new material and I'm excited :) Agreed, brevity is a virtue. |