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A Fascist Vegetarian's Wet Dream - GMO Ticks cause severe meat allergies

 
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Do scientists today even consider the ramifications of what they are putting into our environment? I'm beginning to thing not... it's all just getting funding on their whims and full speed ahead!

If they can force others to live the way THEY think is proper, so much the better.

While they are all gung-ho for saving their furry friends, have any of them considered this may also eventually infect all carnivore species? That would cause, not only the death of said carnivores, but wild herbivores will over populate and die as well if there is no one to keep life in balance.

WTH are these people Thinking???
This is Not a new story either... it is just showing up more and more through the South - Southeast. In other words, it's well on the way to being a serious problem today.

Ticks That Spread Red-Meat Allergy
[link to online.wsj.com]

Bio-Engineered? Ticks in US Causing Severe Allergic Reactions Only After Eating Red Meat
[link to www.conservativerefocus.com]

Are Ticks Being Genetically Engineered To Make People Allergic To Meat?
[link to preventdisease.com]

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A snippet from the Prevent Disease link:
Emphasis is mine.

"Susan Wolver, MD, and Diane Sun, MD, from Virginia Commonwealth University in the US, and colleagues, explains why if you have been bitten by a tick, you may now develop an allergy to red meat. Their article elucidates this connection and discusses the journey of the discovery, yet stop short of emphasizing how these ticks were genetically designed. It's a new syndrome and natural consequence of the interaction of human blood and being bitten by modern ticks they say.

Delayed anaphylaxis -- a severe, life-threatening allergic reaction -- to meat has been identified initially in the southeastern United States. Patients may wake up in the middle of the night, with hives or anaphylaxis usually three to six hours after having eaten red meat for dinner. Until recently, the link between red meat ingestion and anaphylaxis had remained elusive."
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If you are into the official studies, here is one that is linked at the bottom of the Conservative Refocus story.

Evidently, it came to attention in 2009. There have been hundreds of cases in NY too, so it is all the way up the Eastern coast... not just the South/Southeast.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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**sigh**
Oh well, just another WTF moment in a world where they are coming several an hour now.

final bump for interest
in yet another slo-mo ele doom scenario
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Fascist? You kill... we don't... who is evil here? Vegan's and vegetarian's don't have any math to do, its simple. Killing is killing...
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I get this crap already after eating store red meat. Headaches. Never been bitten by a tick though. Grain fed meat, not grass fed.

Furry-legged ticks I imagine, more furry than the other ticks. That would make your blood furry, and then...okay you might turn into a furry.

No really your blood won't protein the same way with the tick bite. Mutants. Like "The Tick"
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Fascist? You kill... we don't... who is evil here? Vegan's and vegetarian's don't have any math to do, its simple. Killing is killing...
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The Fascist classification is directed at those wanting totalitarian control over others... what they think and do. If you believe that shoe fits you, by all means, jam your foot in it and wear it proudly.

Indeed, killing is killing... we ALL kill to eat, Including vegetarians and vegans.

Science is proving that plants are far more aware and responsive than previously thought... put that in your pipe and toke on it... Oh Wait! That is killing a plant too!

What are you going to think about this when the tigers, foxes, mountain lions, coyotes, dogs and cats (to only name a very few) start dying because they cannot eat?

Just think about the bigger picture for a minute before falling victim to a knee-jerk emotional reaction.

I get this crap already after eating store red meat. Headaches. Never been bitten by a tick though. Grain fed meat, not grass fed.

Furry-legged ticks I imagine, more furry than the other ticks. That would make your blood furry, and then...okay you might turn into a furry.

No really your blood won't protein the same way with the tick bite. Mutants. Like "The Tick"
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Not really sure where you are going with this, but...

Most tick bites go unnoticed, happening in the hair line or showing little topical reaction. The allergic reaction only happens after eating meat... and it seems to be a forever sort of allergy.

Allergies usually associate with proteins... this one is sugars, I believe it said. Will have to look again.

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Fascism is good. Vegetarianism is good.

Shit thread.

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Fascism is good. Vegetarianism is good.

Shit thread.

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Yeah, well you just don't get the potential as this lab rat mutates... and it will, count on that.

We'd have Lots of competition for all those veggies if there are no predators to keep the cute little mice and bunnies, etc. in check.
Who's gonna take care of that when it involves killing?
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Fascism is good. Vegetarianism is good.

Shit thread.

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Yeah, well you just don't get the potential as this lab rat mutates... and it will, count on that.

We'd have Lots of competition for all those veggies if there are no predators to keep the cute little mice and bunnies, etc. in check.
Who's gonna take care of that when it involves killing?
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What the fuck are you talking about? Why aren't you growing your own food already? You don't even need farmland.
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Another tidbit from the first link, note the bold:

"How much red meat is needed to cause a reaction also varies widely. Some patients react strongly to pork sausage or lamb, but can eat lean roast beef without having symptoms. Others react even to chicken sausage in pork casing or to marshmallows and gel-cap vitamins, since gelatin is made from animal byproducts.

The good news is that the allergic reaction seems to fade after a few years in some sufferers if they avoid additional tick bites.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Why aren't you growing your own food already? You don't even need farmland.
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Seriously?
You think everything will be hunky-dory as long as we have gardens?

I do grow a percentage of my food. I also have cats to keep the rodents down to a minimum and out of the garden.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Why aren't you growing your own food already? You don't even need farmland.
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Seriously?
You think everything will be hunky-dory as long as we have gardens?

I do grow a percentage of my food. I also have cats to keep the rodents down to a minimum and out of the garden.
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You don't even need a "garden". You can grow more food, in less space, using fewer resources, inside.

And yes, growing your own food saves you money in the long run, removes the possibility of consuming genetically modified crops. That's two pretty significant boxes to tick.
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Fascist? You kill... we don't... who is evil here? Vegan's and vegetarian's don't have any math to do, its simple. Killing is killing...
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Interesting how so many are totally out of touch with nature, real nature, the wilderness and its ways and rhythms.

No matter how wonderful all those idealistic ideas sound, we are still in 3D duality. We are trying to learn Balance here, and broader vision.

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Interesting how so many are totally out of touch with nature, real nature, the wilderness and its ways and rhythms.

No matter how wonderful all those idealistic ideas sound, we are still in 3D duality. We are trying to learn Balance here, and broader vision.

sad
 Quoting: SouthernLight


There's nothing "idealistic" about it. It's simple and proven technology.

Think of how much more open, natural space there would be without 2-3 supermarkets in every fucking town.
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Fascist? You kill... we don't... who is evil here? Vegan's and vegetarian's don't have any math to do, its simple. Killing is killing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60157049


The Fascist classification is directed at those wanting totalitarian control over others... what they think and do. If you believe that shoe fits you, by all means, jam your foot in it and wear it proudly.

Indeed, killing is killing... we ALL kill to eat, Including vegetarians and vegans.

Science is proving that plants are far more aware and responsive than previously thought... put that in your pipe and toke on it... Oh Wait! That is killing a plant too!

What are you going to think about this when the tigers, foxes, mountain lions, coyotes, dogs and cats (to only name a very few) start dying because they cannot eat?

Just think about the bigger picture for a minute before falling victim to a knee-jerk emotional reaction.

I get this crap already after eating store red meat. Headaches. Never been bitten by a tick though. Grain fed meat, not grass fed.

Furry-legged ticks I imagine, more furry than the other ticks. That would make your blood furry, and then...okay you might turn into a furry.

No really your blood won't protein the same way with the tick bite. Mutants. Like "The Tick"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55041526


Not really sure where you are going with this, but...

Most tick bites go unnoticed, happening in the hair line or showing little topical reaction. The allergic reaction only happens after eating meat... and it seems to be a forever sort of allergy.

Allergies usually associate with proteins... this one is sugars, I believe it said. Will have to look again.
 Quoting: SouthernLight


Plants cannot be "KILLED" BE"LIE"VE what you will. Why are you bringing in animals? This is about US, animal are innocent. They do not have the capacities we have, comparing them to us in this sense is wrong.

On a side note, an idea I had and have no idea if it is true but this is a conspiracy forum so here goes.

I think that all meat eating animals can actually live off of plants, although it would be more specific diet for them. The bible talks about US being the CARETAKERS, I think we were meant to control the animal populations, feed them, ect. We were meant to take care of this garden known as earth, instead we let it run a muck.

When I say control, I don't mean CONTROLLING. I simply mean to influence or to guide, like good parents.
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Interesting how so many are totally out of touch with nature, real nature, the wilderness and its ways and rhythms.

No matter how wonderful all those idealistic ideas sound, we are still in 3D duality. We are trying to learn Balance here, and broader vision.

sad
 Quoting: SouthernLight


Lol, "balance"... Let me finish my cheese burger! I love the cow JUST SO FUCKING MUCH!
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Fascist? You kill... we don't... who is evil here? Vegan's and vegetarian's don't have any math to do, its simple. Killing is killing...
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Exactly.
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Guess this isn't worth pursuing since no one is willing to even consider the ramifications of genetic modifications that force an idealistically based, potentially life threatening food allergy onto unsuspecting victims.

It's never real until it adversely affects you personally, I suppose.

Just another sign of the times and the biggest engine driving this train on the track to extinction, imho.
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