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The Electric Universe Theory as proposed by Talbott and Thornhill has received mixed reviews in peer reviews and the scientific community as a whole.

I am quite careful never to state things in absolutes, but the Electric Universe Theory provides an explanation of recent events that is in my opinion BETTER than that provided by the conventional model.

The problem lies in the fact that, because not many scientists are willing to stake their careers or their grants, on an untested new theory, we are left with only a few people experimenting in this field. Those who do delve into these new possibilities often lack the budgets of those worshiping the religion of science as practiced and taught in modern day.

I feel it is time, in light of recent events better explained by the Electric Universe Theory to give it a fair consideration. I believe we should look at its strengths and weaknesses. I am going to present the strengths mostly, but it should be questioned, it should be held to scrutiny, as should those models we currently hold as the standard. IDEALLY, IN SCIENCE, NOTHING SHOULD BE SACRED BUT THE TRUTH.

I am not going to lay out the entire theory here, only the parts that apply to some of the curious behavior of our sun, the heliopause, the heliosheath, and a few other angles. To read up on the entire theory, I suggest the Beginner's Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)] or the Essential Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)]

We have watched our sun go "All quiet" with no sunspot activity facing Earth for 6 days. This, during our supposed solar maximum. We have seen record low solar wind speeds with low densities. We have seen our sun's magnetic field grow weak and allow filaments to easily grow and dance across its surface. We may have already seen the poles of the sun flip, as they do every 11 years, which oddly corresponds with the sunspot cycle. We have seen Voyager 1 enter interstellar space, or not, find no bowshock, and find the plasma of interstellar space to be 40 times denser than that within the heliosphere. Voyager 1, so far, has not seen the solar wind reverse polarity as was expected.

For these reasons and more, we must begin asking questions.


Consider that the conventional model has no explantation for the following characteristics of the sun either:

• neutrino deficiency
• neutrino variability
• solar wind
• neutrinos and solar wind
• photospheric jets or ‘spicules’
• solar chromosphere
• corona
• coronal ‘holes’
• differential rotation by latitude
• differential rotation by depth
• equatorial plasma torus
• sunspots
• sunspot migration
• sunspot penumbra
• sunspot cycle
• magnetic field strength
• even surface magnetic field
• helioseismology
• solar density
• changing size




First, let's examine the Solar Model of the Electric Universe


The EU Theory sees the Sun as fueled by galactic Birkeland currents.

The Sun is the ANODE (+) in relation to the galactic environment in the EU Theory.

The CATHODE (-) is not a specific object. It is a 'VIRTUAL CATHODE' (-) found at the Heliosphere.

On earth, when a high-voltage electric transmission line discharges into the environment, the noisy glow is called a "corona discharge."

The Corona Discharge of the sun is a very similar phenomenon according to the EU Theory.

Unlike the conventional model, which proposes a bowshock (looking less likely every day) similar to that produced by a supersonic jet, the electric model sees no physical interaction and instead, views the sun as an electric object moving through an electrified environment.



:esundraw:

Above is the Electric Universe (EU) Theory for the Sun's activity (When it has a strong coronal electric field). According to the EU theory, the sun, and our entire solar system, is fueled by the galaxy (in particular, the Solar System's relation to the Galactic arm), which powers the 11 year sunspot cycle and also explains why it undergoes a pole flip at the same time. Therefore, the input voltage depends upon the interstellar environment in which the solar system resides. Electrons steadily flow towards the Sun, the ANODE (+) relative to the galaxy, while protons, which form the solar wind, accelerate away from the sun for most of their journey to the heliosphere, which is a plasma sheath and forms a VIRTUAL CATHODE (-). Once these protons approach closely to the heliosphere they are accelerated to the speed of light and become COSMIC RAYS as they pass into interstellar space.

In 2013, at the supposed height of Solar Cycle 24, sunspots fell far short of predictions, triggering debates amongst the scientists of the world. It picked up in 2014, but still is not as active as it was projected to be. The "Maunder Minimum" occurred in the 1600's and caused VERY cold temperatures ("Little Ice Age") in the northern hemisphere due to 50 years of very low numbers of sunspots. It altered the flow of the polar winds. Therefore, we have historical evidence that low numbers of sunspots can cause cooling, at least regionally throughout the northern hemisphere. Bear in mind though, it took 50 years of low sunspot activity to cause this condition ("Little Ice Age").

This month, July of 2014, we saw the sun go "All Quiet" on its Earth-facing side for 6 consecutive days. Again, this happened when Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to be at its peak. The solar wind dropped to 50 year lows of around 280 km/s. Several anomalous things began to pop up during this period. The polar wind flow was altered in the northern hemisphere. Cosmic Ray Influx increased, but since many of the monitors were taken offline, we do not know by how much. The Earth's magnetosphere weakened drastically. The Earth's magnetopause got very close to the surface of the Earth due to compression allowed due to this weakness. The Schumann Resonance covered a BROAD range of frequencies at very high intensities. Several times we have seen the Earth's magnetic field facing the opposite direction, as if the solar wind was flowing towards the sun. Several times, the Earth's magnetic field appears to have taken impacts from the side relative to the direction of the sun.

The sun still, as of today, July 31st, 2014, has a weak magnetic field which leads to a weak magnetosphere on Earth and an increase in Cosmic Rays it seems. The data is very difficult to find to confirm this, but the trend prior to the data being removed from the internet was undeniable.

Notice how low this solar max was:

:sunprogress:



We must now ask some questions and I admit to not knowing many of the answers or even to having a clue:

• Will this trend of low sunspots continue?

• Will this one solar cycle's low number of sunspots cause a decline in temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere?

• Did the environment in which our solar system resides change in the past few decades?

• Is the input current from the galaxy reduced?

• Are electrons flowing back to the sun at times with enough velocity to become cosmic rays (or as some speculate - neutrinos), rather than their typical "slow drift"?
o What effect would this have on the sun? Can electrons that have accelerated and become cosmic rays (and possibly neutrinos) fuel the Sun?
o What effect would this have on the Earth and other planets?

• What is occurring at the heliosphere (Cathode)?

• Is Voyager 1 in interstellar space?
o If it is, the fact that the polarity of the solar wind didn't reverse supports the EU Theory.

• What are the implications of interstellar space having plasma of 40 times the density of that within the heliosphere?
o Is this a new phenomenon?

• Does any of this relate to the strange behavior of the Schumann Resonance?

• Does the Energy Ribbon found by IBEX support the Electric Universe Model?

• Is the Heliosheath dominated by galactic energy as suggested by the Electric Universe Theory and not Solar energy as current models suggest?
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Bookmarking my spot :)

BRILLIANT OP

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Bookmarking my spot :)
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WELCOME!!!
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[link to youtube.com]

Nasa is coming around maybe?
Think Golden Mirror!
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[link to youtube.com]
Think Golden Mirror!
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[link to youtube.com]

Nasa is coming around maybe?
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YES SIR, you noticed that too!!!

Go figure....I love watching them run around like roaches after flipping on the lights....

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I love this one:

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I love this one:


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Hmmm, I could swear I've seen that model you drew OP, it even looks like ^^THAT...

But it seems like you should put a mirror next to the left edge :) and in the mirrored version change the 'sphere' to CATHODE :)

Ahh, who am I kidding...

LolZ

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I love this one:


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Hmmm, I could swear I've seen that model you drew OP, it even looks like ^^THAT...

But it seems like you should put a mirror next to the left edge :)

Ahh, who am I kidding...

LolZ
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You made that video?? LOL.

Just a friendly reminder:

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I almost made the title.

Poo's pinch - the Z-pinch
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The Electric Universe Theory as proposed by Wallace and Thornhill has received mixed reviews in peer reviews and the scientific community as a whole.

I am quite careful never to state things in absolutes, but the Electric Universe Theory provides an explanation of recent events that is in my opinion BETTER than that provided by the conventional model.

The problem lies in the fact that, because not many scientists are willing to stake their careers or their grants, on an untested new theory, we are left with only a few people experimenting in this field. Those who do delve into these new possibilities often lack the budgets of those worshiping the religion of science as practiced and taught in modern day.

I feel it is time, in light of recent events better explained by the Electric Universe Theory to give it a fair consideration. I believe we should look at its strengths and weaknesses. I am going to present the strengths mostly, but it should be questioned, it should be held to scrutiny, as should those models we currently hold as the standard. IDEALLY, IN SCIENCE, NOTHING SHOULD BE SACRED BUT THE TRUTH.

I am not going to lay out the entire theory here, only the parts that apply to some of the curious behavior of our sun, the heliopause, the heliosheath, and a few other angles. To read up on the entire theory, I suggest the Beginner's Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)] or the Essential Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)]

We have watched our sun go "All quiet" with no sunspot activity facing Earth for 6 days. This, during our supposed solar maximum. We have seen record low solar wind speeds with low densities. We have seen our sun's magnetic field grow weak and allow filaments to easily grow and dance across its surface. We may have already seen the poles of the sun flip, as they do every 11 years, which oddly corresponds with the sunspot cycle. We have seen Voyager 1 enter interstellar space, or not, find no bowshock, and find the plasma of interstellar space to be 40 times denser than that within the heliosphere. Voyager 1, so far, has not seen the solar wind reverse polarity as was expected.

For these reasons and more, we must begin asking questions.


Consider that the conventional model has no explantation for the following characteristics of the sun either:

• neutrino deficiency
• neutrino variability
• solar wind
• neutrinos and solar wind
• photospheric jets or ‘spicules’
• solar chromosphere
• corona
• coronal ‘holes’
• differential rotation by latitude
• differential rotation by depth
• equatorial plasma torus
• sunspots
• sunspot migration
• sunspot penumbra
• sunspot cycle
• magnetic field strength
• even surface magnetic field
• helioseismology
• solar density
• changing size




First, let's examine the Solar Model of the Electric Universe


The EU Theory sees the Sun as fueled by galactic Birkeland currents.

The Sun is the ANODE (+) in relation to the galactic environment in the EU Theory.

The CATHODE (-) is not a specific object. It is a 'VIRTUAL CATHODE' (-) found at the Heliosphere.

On earth, when a high-voltage electric transmission line discharges into the environment, the noisy glow is called a "corona discharge."

The Corona Discharge of the sun is a very similar phenomenon according to the EU Theory.

Unlike the conventional model, which proposes a bowshock (looking less likely every day) similar to that produced by a supersonic jet, the electric model sees no physical interaction and instead, views the sun as an electric object moving through an electrified environment.



:esundraw:

Above is the Electric Universe (EU) Theory for the Sun's activity (When it has a strong coronal electric field). According to the EU theory, the sun, and our entire solar system, is fueled by the galaxy (in particular, the Solar System's relation to the Galactic arm), which powers the 11 year sunspot cycle and also explains why it undergoes a pole flip at the same time. Therefore, the input voltage depends upon the interstellar environment in which the solar system resides. Electrons steadily flow towards the Sun, the ANODE (+) relative to the galaxy, while protons, which form the solar wind, accelerate away from the sun for most of their journey to the heliosphere, which is a plasma sheath and forms a VIRTUAL CATHODE (-). Once these protons approach closely to the heliosphere they are accelerated to the speed of light and become COSMIC RAYS as they pass into interstellar space.

In 2013, at the supposed height of Solar Cycle 24, sunspots fell far short of predictions, triggering debates amongst the scientists of the world. It picked up in 2014, but still is not as active as it was projected to be. The "Maunder Minimum" occurred in the 1600's and caused VERY cold temperatures ("Little Ice Age") in the northern hemisphere due to 50 years of very low numbers of sunspots. It altered the flow of the polar winds. Therefore, we have historical evidence that low numbers of sunspots can cause cooling, at least regionally throughout the northern hemisphere. Bear in mind though, it took 50 years of low sunspot activity to cause this condition ("Little Ice Age").

This month, July of 2014, we saw the sun go "All Quiet" on its Earth-facing side for 6 consecutive days. Again, this happened when Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to be at its peak. The solar wind dropped to 50 year lows of around 280 km/s. Several anomalous things began to pop up during this period. The polar wind flow was altered in the northern hemisphere. Cosmic Ray Influx increased, but since many of the monitors were taken offline, we do not know by how much. The Earth's magnetosphere weakened drastically. The Earth's magnetopause got very close to the surface of the Earth due to compression allowed due to this weakness. The Schumann Resonance covered a BROAD range of frequencies at very high intensities. Several times we have seen the Earth's magnetic field facing the opposite direction, as if the solar wind was flowing towards the sun. Several times, the Earth's magnetic field appears to have taken impacts from the side relative to the direction of the sun.

The sun still, as of today, July 31st, 2014, has a weak magnetic field which leads to a weak magnetosphere on Earth and an increase in Cosmic Rays it seems. The data is very difficult to find to confirm this, but the trend prior to the data being removed from the internet was undeniable

We must now ask some questions and I admit to not knowing many of the answers or even to having a clue:

• Will this trend of low sunspots continue?

• Will this one solar cycle's low number of sunspots cause a decline in temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere?

• Did the environment in which our solar system resides change in the past few decades?

• Is the input current from the galaxy reduced?

• Are electrons flowing back to the sun at times with enough velocity to become cosmic rays (or as some speculate - neutrinos), rather than their typical "slow drift"?
o What effect would this have on the sun? Can electrons that have accelerated and become cosmic rays (and possibly neutrinos) fuel the Sun?
o What effect would this have on the Earth and other planets?

• What is occurring at the heliosphere (Cathode)?

• Is Voyager 1 in interstellar space?
o If it is, the fact that the polarity of the solar wind didn't reverse supports the EU Theory.

• What are the implications of interstellar space having plasma of 40 times the density of that within the heliosphere?
o Is this a new phenomenon?

• Does any of this relate to the strange behavior of the Schumann Resonance?

• Does the Energy Ribbon found by IBEX support the Electric Universe Model?

• Is the Heliosheath dominated by galactic energy as suggested by the Electric Universe Theory and not Solar energy as current models suggest?
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YOUR DIAGRAM DESCRIBES A LIGHT BULB. LOL
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The Electric Universe Theory as proposed by Wallace and Thornhill has received mixed reviews in peer reviews and the scientific community as a whole.

I am quite careful never to state things in absolutes, but the Electric Universe Theory provides an explanation of recent events that is in my opinion BETTER than that provided by the conventional model.

The problem lies in the fact that, because not many scientists are willing to stake their careers or their grants, on an untested new theory, we are left with only a few people experimenting in this field. Those who do delve into these new possibilities often lack the budgets of those worshiping the religion of science as practiced and taught in modern day.

I feel it is time, in light of recent events better explained by the Electric Universe Theory to give it a fair consideration. I believe we should look at its strengths and weaknesses. I am going to present the strengths mostly, but it should be questioned, it should be held to scrutiny, as should those models we currently hold as the standard. IDEALLY, IN SCIENCE, NOTHING SHOULD BE SACRED BUT THE TRUTH.

I am not going to lay out the entire theory here, only the parts that apply to some of the curious behavior of our sun, the heliopause, the heliosheath, and a few other angles. To read up on the entire theory, I suggest the Beginner's Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)] or the Essential Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)]

We have watched our sun go "All quiet" with no sunspot activity facing Earth for 6 days. This, during our supposed solar maximum. We have seen record low solar wind speeds with low densities. We have seen our sun's magnetic field grow weak and allow filaments to easily grow and dance across its surface. We may have already seen the poles of the sun flip, as they do every 11 years, which oddly corresponds with the sunspot cycle. We have seen Voyager 1 enter interstellar space, or not, find no bowshock, and find the plasma of interstellar space to be 40 times denser than that within the heliosphere. Voyager 1, so far, has not seen the solar wind reverse polarity as was expected.

For these reasons and more, we must begin asking questions.


Consider that the conventional model has no explantation for the following characteristics of the sun either:

• neutrino deficiency
• neutrino variability
• solar wind
• neutrinos and solar wind
• photospheric jets or ‘spicules’
• solar chromosphere
• corona
• coronal ‘holes’
• differential rotation by latitude
• differential rotation by depth
• equatorial plasma torus
• sunspots
• sunspot migration
• sunspot penumbra
• sunspot cycle
• magnetic field strength
• even surface magnetic field
• helioseismology
• solar density
• changing size




First, let's examine the Solar Model of the Electric Universe


The EU Theory sees the Sun as fueled by galactic Birkeland currents.

The Sun is the ANODE (+) in relation to the galactic environment in the EU Theory.

The CATHODE (-) is not a specific object. It is a 'VIRTUAL CATHODE' (-) found at the Heliosphere.

On earth, when a high-voltage electric transmission line discharges into the environment, the noisy glow is called a "corona discharge."

The Corona Discharge of the sun is a very similar phenomenon according to the EU Theory.

Unlike the conventional model, which proposes a bowshock (looking less likely every day) similar to that produced by a supersonic jet, the electric model sees no physical interaction and instead, views the sun as an electric object moving through an electrified environment.



:esundraw:

Above is the Electric Universe (EU) Theory for the Sun's activity (When it has a strong coronal electric field). According to the EU theory, the sun, and our entire solar system, is fueled by the galaxy (in particular, the Solar System's relation to the Galactic arm), which powers the 11 year sunspot cycle and also explains why it undergoes a pole flip at the same time. Therefore, the input voltage depends upon the interstellar environment in which the solar system resides. Electrons steadily flow towards the Sun, the ANODE (+) relative to the galaxy, while protons, which form the solar wind, accelerate away from the sun for most of their journey to the heliosphere, which is a plasma sheath and forms a VIRTUAL CATHODE (-). Once these protons approach closely to the heliosphere they are accelerated to the speed of light and become COSMIC RAYS as they pass into interstellar space.

In 2013, at the supposed height of Solar Cycle 24, sunspots fell far short of predictions, triggering debates amongst the scientists of the world. It picked up in 2014, but still is not as active as it was projected to be. The "Maunder Minimum" occurred in the 1600's and caused VERY cold temperatures ("Little Ice Age") in the northern hemisphere due to 50 years of very low numbers of sunspots. It altered the flow of the polar winds. Therefore, we have historical evidence that low numbers of sunspots can cause cooling, at least regionally throughout the northern hemisphere. Bear in mind though, it took 50 years of low sunspot activity to cause this condition ("Little Ice Age").

This month, July of 2014, we saw the sun go "All Quiet" on its Earth-facing side for 6 consecutive days. Again, this happened when Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to be at its peak. The solar wind dropped to 50 year lows of around 280 km/s. Several anomalous things began to pop up during this period. The polar wind flow was altered in the northern hemisphere. Cosmic Ray Influx increased, but since many of the monitors were taken offline, we do not know by how much. The Earth's magnetosphere weakened drastically. The Earth's magnetopause got very close to the surface of the Earth due to compression allowed due to this weakness. The Schumann Resonance covered a BROAD range of frequencies at very high intensities. Several times we have seen the Earth's magnetic field facing the opposite direction, as if the solar wind was flowing towards the sun. Several times, the Earth's magnetic field appears to have taken impacts from the side relative to the direction of the sun.

The sun still, as of today, July 31st, 2014, has a weak magnetic field which leads to a weak magnetosphere on Earth and an increase in Cosmic Rays it seems. The data is very difficult to find to confirm this, but the trend prior to the data being removed from the internet was undeniable

We must now ask some questions and I admit to not knowing many of the answers or even to having a clue:

• Will this trend of low sunspots continue?

• Will this one solar cycle's low number of sunspots cause a decline in temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere?

• Did the environment in which our solar system resides change in the past few decades?

• Is the input current from the galaxy reduced?

• Are electrons flowing back to the sun at times with enough velocity to become cosmic rays (or as some speculate - neutrinos), rather than their typical "slow drift"?
o What effect would this have on the sun? Can electrons that have accelerated and become cosmic rays (and possibly neutrinos) fuel the Sun?
o What effect would this have on the Earth and other planets?

• What is occurring at the heliosphere (Cathode)?

• Is Voyager 1 in interstellar space?
o If it is, the fact that the polarity of the solar wind didn't reverse supports the EU Theory.

• What are the implications of interstellar space having plasma of 40 times the density of that within the heliosphere?
o Is this a new phenomenon?

• Does any of this relate to the strange behavior of the Schumann Resonance?

• Does the Energy Ribbon found by IBEX support the Electric Universe Model?

• Is the Heliosheath dominated by galactic energy as suggested by the Electric Universe Theory and not Solar energy as current models suggest?
 Quoting: poo-on


YOUR DIAGRAM DESCRIBES A LIGHT BULB. LOL
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It sure does!! Please provide an opinion...

A lightbulb does not get it's energy from outside of the glass though....

I'm not sold on this tbh.

I do know that physics is seriously flawed as it stands...they have admitted as much lately.

It's time we looked at various alternative theories.
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EU also explains why we only flip poles every 275000 years +/-

Seems its more Russian roulette, than anything else
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science = LOL
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I almost made the title.

Poo's pinch - the Z-pinch
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poo-on your brains are needed in the 'Electrons Do NOT Exist' thread s226
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science = LOL
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ROFL, you are right.

The more I "learn", the dumber I feel.
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I almost made the title.

Poo's pinch - the Z-pinch
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poo-on your brains are needed in the 'Electrons Do NOT Exist' thread s226
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I have solved that problem. I have a jar full of electrons that I worked hard to collect last night.

Deny that!!
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I almost made the title.

Poo's pinch - the Z-pinch
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poo-on your brains are needed in the 'Electrons Do NOT Exist' thread s226
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I have solved that problem. I have a jar full of electrons that I worked hard to collect last night.

Deny that!!
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erm.. I'm on the side that electrons do exist, can I see the jar please?
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I almost made the title.

Poo's pinch - the Z-pinch
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poo-on your brains are needed in the 'Electrons Do NOT Exist' thread s226
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I have solved that problem. I have a jar full of electrons that I worked hard to collect last night.

Deny that!!
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erm.. I'm on the side that electrons do exist, can I see the jar please?
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Damn camera broke...

Trust me....
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Damn camera broke...

Trust me....
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That's ok I'll accept a hand drawn picture
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Poo, you always come through in a pinch.

Becoming one of my favorites
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The Electric Universe Theory as proposed by Wallace and Thornhill has received mixed reviews in peer reviews and the scientific community as a whole.

I am quite careful never to state things in absolutes, but the Electric Universe Theory provides an explanation of recent events that is in my opinion BETTER than that provided by the conventional model.

The problem lies in the fact that, because not many scientists are willing to stake their careers or their grants, on an untested new theory, we are left with only a few people experimenting in this field. Those who do delve into these new possibilities often lack the budgets of those worshiping the religion of science as practiced and taught in modern day.

I feel it is time, in light of recent events better explained by the Electric Universe Theory to give it a fair consideration. I believe we should look at its strengths and weaknesses. I am going to present the strengths mostly, but it should be questioned, it should be held to scrutiny, as should those models we currently hold as the standard. IDEALLY, IN SCIENCE, NOTHING SHOULD BE SACRED BUT THE TRUTH.

I am not going to lay out the entire theory here, only the parts that apply to some of the curious behavior of our sun, the heliopause, the heliosheath, and a few other angles. To read up on the entire theory, I suggest the Beginner's Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)] or the Essential Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)]

We have watched our sun go "All quiet" with no sunspot activity facing Earth for 6 days. This, during our supposed solar maximum. We have seen record low solar wind speeds with low densities. We have seen our sun's magnetic field grow weak and allow filaments to easily grow and dance across its surface. We may have already seen the poles of the sun flip, as they do every 11 years, which oddly corresponds with the sunspot cycle. We have seen Voyager 1 enter interstellar space, or not, find no bowshock, and find the plasma of interstellar space to be 40 times denser than that within the heliosphere. Voyager 1, so far, has not seen the solar wind reverse polarity as was expected.

For these reasons and more, we must begin asking questions.


Consider that the conventional model has no explantation for the following characteristics of the sun either:

• neutrino deficiency
• neutrino variability
• solar wind
• neutrinos and solar wind
• photospheric jets or ‘spicules’
• solar chromosphere
• corona
• coronal ‘holes’
• differential rotation by latitude
• differential rotation by depth
• equatorial plasma torus
• sunspots
• sunspot migration
• sunspot penumbra
• sunspot cycle
• magnetic field strength
• even surface magnetic field
• helioseismology
• solar density
• changing size




First, let's examine the Solar Model of the Electric Universe


The EU Theory sees the Sun as fueled by galactic Birkeland currents.

The Sun is the ANODE (+) in relation to the galactic environment in the EU Theory.

The CATHODE (-) is not a specific object. It is a 'VIRTUAL CATHODE' (-) found at the Heliosphere.

On earth, when a high-voltage electric transmission line discharges into the environment, the noisy glow is called a "corona discharge."

The Corona Discharge of the sun is a very similar phenomenon according to the EU Theory.

Unlike the conventional model, which proposes a bowshock (looking less likely every day) similar to that produced by a supersonic jet, the electric model sees no physical interaction and instead, views the sun as an electric object moving through an electrified environment.



:esundraw:

Above is the Electric Universe (EU) Theory for the Sun's activity (When it has a strong coronal electric field). According to the EU theory, the sun, and our entire solar system, is fueled by the galaxy (in particular, the Solar System's relation to the Galactic arm), which powers the 11 year sunspot cycle and also explains why it undergoes a pole flip at the same time. Therefore, the input voltage depends upon the interstellar environment in which the solar system resides. Electrons steadily flow towards the Sun, the ANODE (+) relative to the galaxy, while protons, which form the solar wind, accelerate away from the sun for most of their journey to the heliosphere, which is a plasma sheath and forms a VIRTUAL CATHODE (-). Once these protons approach closely to the heliosphere they are accelerated to the speed of light and become COSMIC RAYS as they pass into interstellar space.

In 2013, at the supposed height of Solar Cycle 24, sunspots fell far short of predictions, triggering debates amongst the scientists of the world. It picked up in 2014, but still is not as active as it was projected to be. The "Maunder Minimum" occurred in the 1600's and caused VERY cold temperatures ("Little Ice Age") in the northern hemisphere due to 50 years of very low numbers of sunspots. It altered the flow of the polar winds. Therefore, we have historical evidence that low numbers of sunspots can cause cooling, at least regionally throughout the northern hemisphere. Bear in mind though, it took 50 years of low sunspot activity to cause this condition ("Little Ice Age").

This month, July of 2014, we saw the sun go "All Quiet" on its Earth-facing side for 6 consecutive days. Again, this happened when Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to be at its peak. The solar wind dropped to 50 year lows of around 280 km/s. Several anomalous things began to pop up during this period. The polar wind flow was altered in the northern hemisphere. Cosmic Ray Influx increased, but since many of the monitors were taken offline, we do not know by how much. The Earth's magnetosphere weakened drastically. The Earth's magnetopause got very close to the surface of the Earth due to compression allowed due to this weakness. The Schumann Resonance covered a BROAD range of frequencies at very high intensities. Several times we have seen the Earth's magnetic field facing the opposite direction, as if the solar wind was flowing towards the sun. Several times, the Earth's magnetic field appears to have taken impacts from the side relative to the direction of the sun.

The sun still, as of today, July 31st, 2014, has a weak magnetic field which leads to a weak magnetosphere on Earth and an increase in Cosmic Rays it seems. The data is very difficult to find to confirm this, but the trend prior to the data being removed from the internet was undeniable

We must now ask some questions and I admit to not knowing many of the answers or even to having a clue:

• Will this trend of low sunspots continue?

• Will this one solar cycle's low number of sunspots cause a decline in temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere?

• Did the environment in which our solar system resides change in the past few decades?

• Is the input current from the galaxy reduced?

• Are electrons flowing back to the sun at times with enough velocity to become cosmic rays (or as some speculate - neutrinos), rather than their typical "slow drift"?
o What effect would this have on the sun? Can electrons that have accelerated and become cosmic rays (and possibly neutrinos) fuel the Sun?
o What effect would this have on the Earth and other planets?

• What is occurring at the heliosphere (Cathode)?

• Is Voyager 1 in interstellar space?
o If it is, the fact that the polarity of the solar wind didn't reverse supports the EU Theory.

• What are the implications of interstellar space having plasma of 40 times the density of that within the heliosphere?
o Is this a new phenomenon?

• Does any of this relate to the strange behavior of the Schumann Resonance?

• Does the Energy Ribbon found by IBEX support the Electric Universe Model?

• Is the Heliosheath dominated by galactic energy as suggested by the Electric Universe Theory and not Solar energy as current models suggest?
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YOUR DIAGRAM DESCRIBES A LIGHT BULB. LOL
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And how stellar nurseries work...

Fecking genius OP!

Hmmm, I bet this is how stars are born...

Hey OP, with the EU we don't even need those elusive black holes...

UNLESS WHAT WE SEE OF OUR STAR IS THE 'INSIDE' OF THE BLACK HOLE?

rockon

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Poo, you always come through in a pinch.

Becoming one of my favorites
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poos usually come through with a pinch... and a squeeze
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Damn camera broke...

Trust me....
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That's ok I'll accept a hand drawn picture
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OK, good. I could do it on solidworks, but it would be really boring, only one dimension...

10^-16
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The Electric Universe Theory as proposed by Wallace and Thornhill has received mixed reviews in peer reviews and the scientific community as a whole.

I am quite careful never to state things in absolutes, but the Electric Universe Theory provides an explanation of recent events that is in my opinion BETTER than that provided by the conventional model.

The problem lies in the fact that, because not many scientists are willing to stake their careers or their grants, on an untested new theory, we are left with only a few people experimenting in this field. Those who do delve into these new possibilities often lack the budgets of those worshiping the religion of science as practiced and taught in modern day.

I feel it is time, in light of recent events better explained by the Electric Universe Theory to give it a fair consideration. I believe we should look at its strengths and weaknesses. I am going to present the strengths mostly, but it should be questioned, it should be held to scrutiny, as should those models we currently hold as the standard. IDEALLY, IN SCIENCE, NOTHING SHOULD BE SACRED BUT THE TRUTH.

I am not going to lay out the entire theory here, only the parts that apply to some of the curious behavior of our sun, the heliopause, the heliosheath, and a few other angles. To read up on the entire theory, I suggest the Beginner's Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)] or the Essential Guide found here - [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)]

We have watched our sun go "All quiet" with no sunspot activity facing Earth for 6 days. This, during our supposed solar maximum. We have seen record low solar wind speeds with low densities. We have seen our sun's magnetic field grow weak and allow filaments to easily grow and dance across its surface. We may have already seen the poles of the sun flip, as they do every 11 years, which oddly corresponds with the sunspot cycle. We have seen Voyager 1 enter interstellar space, or not, find no bowshock, and find the plasma of interstellar space to be 40 times denser than that within the heliosphere. Voyager 1, so far, has not seen the solar wind reverse polarity as was expected.

For these reasons and more, we must begin asking questions.


Consider that the conventional model has no explantation for the following characteristics of the sun either:

• neutrino deficiency
• neutrino variability
• solar wind
• neutrinos and solar wind
• photospheric jets or ‘spicules’
• solar chromosphere
• corona
• coronal ‘holes’
• differential rotation by latitude
• differential rotation by depth
• equatorial plasma torus
• sunspots
• sunspot migration
• sunspot penumbra
• sunspot cycle
• magnetic field strength
• even surface magnetic field
• helioseismology
• solar density
• changing size




First, let's examine the Solar Model of the Electric Universe


The EU Theory sees the Sun as fueled by galactic Birkeland currents.

The Sun is the ANODE (+) in relation to the galactic environment in the EU Theory.

The CATHODE (-) is not a specific object. It is a 'VIRTUAL CATHODE' (-) found at the Heliosphere.

On earth, when a high-voltage electric transmission line discharges into the environment, the noisy glow is called a "corona discharge."

The Corona Discharge of the sun is a very similar phenomenon according to the EU Theory.

Unlike the conventional model, which proposes a bowshock (looking less likely every day) similar to that produced by a supersonic jet, the electric model sees no physical interaction and instead, views the sun as an electric object moving through an electrified environment.



:esundraw:

Above is the Electric Universe (EU) Theory for the Sun's activity (When it has a strong coronal electric field). According to the EU theory, the sun, and our entire solar system, is fueled by the galaxy (in particular, the Solar System's relation to the Galactic arm), which powers the 11 year sunspot cycle and also explains why it undergoes a pole flip at the same time. Therefore, the input voltage depends upon the interstellar environment in which the solar system resides. Electrons steadily flow towards the Sun, the ANODE (+) relative to the galaxy, while protons, which form the solar wind, accelerate away from the sun for most of their journey to the heliosphere, which is a plasma sheath and forms a VIRTUAL CATHODE (-). Once these protons approach closely to the heliosphere they are accelerated to the speed of light and become COSMIC RAYS as they pass into interstellar space.

In 2013, at the supposed height of Solar Cycle 24, sunspots fell far short of predictions, triggering debates amongst the scientists of the world. It picked up in 2014, but still is not as active as it was projected to be. The "Maunder Minimum" occurred in the 1600's and caused VERY cold temperatures ("Little Ice Age") in the northern hemisphere due to 50 years of very low numbers of sunspots. It altered the flow of the polar winds. Therefore, we have historical evidence that low numbers of sunspots can cause cooling, at least regionally throughout the northern hemisphere. Bear in mind though, it took 50 years of low sunspot activity to cause this condition ("Little Ice Age").

This month, July of 2014, we saw the sun go "All Quiet" on its Earth-facing side for 6 consecutive days. Again, this happened when Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to be at its peak. The solar wind dropped to 50 year lows of around 280 km/s. Several anomalous things began to pop up during this period. The polar wind flow was altered in the northern hemisphere. Cosmic Ray Influx increased, but since many of the monitors were taken offline, we do not know by how much. The Earth's magnetosphere weakened drastically. The Earth's magnetopause got very close to the surface of the Earth due to compression allowed due to this weakness. The Schumann Resonance covered a BROAD range of frequencies at very high intensities. Several times we have seen the Earth's magnetic field facing the opposite direction, as if the solar wind was flowing towards the sun. Several times, the Earth's magnetic field appears to have taken impacts from the side relative to the direction of the sun.

The sun still, as of today, July 31st, 2014, has a weak magnetic field which leads to a weak magnetosphere on Earth and an increase in Cosmic Rays it seems. The data is very difficult to find to confirm this, but the trend prior to the data being removed from the internet was undeniable

We must now ask some questions and I admit to not knowing many of the answers or even to having a clue:

• Will this trend of low sunspots continue?

• Will this one solar cycle's low number of sunspots cause a decline in temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere?

• Did the environment in which our solar system resides change in the past few decades?

• Is the input current from the galaxy reduced?

• Are electrons flowing back to the sun at times with enough velocity to become cosmic rays (or as some speculate - neutrinos), rather than their typical "slow drift"?
o What effect would this have on the sun? Can electrons that have accelerated and become cosmic rays (and possibly neutrinos) fuel the Sun?
o What effect would this have on the Earth and other planets?

• What is occurring at the heliosphere (Cathode)?

• Is Voyager 1 in interstellar space?
o If it is, the fact that the polarity of the solar wind didn't reverse supports the EU Theory.

• What are the implications of interstellar space having plasma of 40 times the density of that within the heliosphere?
o Is this a new phenomenon?

• Does any of this relate to the strange behavior of the Schumann Resonance?

• Does the Energy Ribbon found by IBEX support the Electric Universe Model?

• Is the Heliosheath dominated by galactic energy as suggested by the Electric Universe Theory and not Solar energy as current models suggest?
 Quoting: poo-on


YOUR DIAGRAM DESCRIBES A LIGHT BULB. LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54813749


And how stellar nurseries work...

Fecking genius OP!

Hmmm, I bet this is how stars are born...

Hey OP, with the EU we don't even need those elusive black holes...

UNLESS WHAT WE SEE OF OUR STAR IS THE 'INSIDE' OF THE BLACK HOLE?

rockon
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Come on, none of that is original. I wish it were.

I'm simply hurling out possibilities.
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OK, good. I could do it on solidworks, but it would be really boring, only one dimension...

10^-16
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come on who are you kidding? who can make a jar 10^-16 I'm calling BS (bad science)
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OK, good. I could do it on solidworks, but it would be really boring, only one dimension...

10^-16
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come on who are you kidding? who can make a jar 10^-16 I'm calling BS (bad science)
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Uh, yeah it's BS..... Next time I'll add emoticon...LOL
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maybe change the title slightly to poo-on the solar system.. I don't want to Poo On my solar system… that little hypen would make a world of difference perhaps… I totally mistook the nature of your thread until I opened it.. didn't see the author.
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Just for you Abi!!
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did you know as part of the ascension of this solar system. the heliosphere will come down? It part of the prison bars… as is the magnetosphere of earth. check out the planets that do not have magnetospheres…

to somebody above, I don't know who wrote it.. our star is not at the center of a black hole. Black holes in fact do not exist. They are fiction by scientists who don't know how to explain dark gravity bodies.. .which do not have solar systems in the middle of them.
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I won't argue, I have much to learn. This isn't my specialty, more of a hobby.

But, yes, I don't believe in black holes.

I believe that a plasmoid is at the center of our Galaxy.
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I'm very open to different ideas and opinions.

Science loves to stifle debate and discussion, I would love to see us do the opposite.

The seemingly most radical idea - MAY BE CORRECT!!





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