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Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...

 
Jay II
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Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
To be corrupt is one thing, but to say you are close to God and be the MOST corrupt, is...is...is... WTF?

[link to www.pbs.org]

Seems to me that the prophecy of the last pope still stands...
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I saw that special OP.

It was hair raising to say the least. I often wonder the same thing as you.

I suppose they dismiss all that as yes it's corrupt but we just ignore that, give money and go to church every week for the purpose of (mindless) tradition.

It's very sad really. I haven't had the heart to turn my family on to this documentary.

I was horrified.
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the catholic church has a monastery in benson arizona.

the purpose of the place is to sequester their inveterate during and after they pay off the molested to not take their complaint public.

been there since the 70's and the rise in parishioners willing to come forward over the atrocities carried out by the church on its own people.

if they are willing to do that, they are pretty much willing to do anything...
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What was the scandal during Benedict's papacy?

To answer your question, Catholics use the Catholic Church to get the sacraments. It has nothing to do with any particular pope or priest's personal holiness or lack thereof.

Sort of how most people didn't abandon "democracy" during the Nixon years just because there was corruption at the top.
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I saw that special OP.

It was hair raising to say the least. I often wonder the same thing as you.

I suppose they dismiss all that as yes it's corrupt but we just ignore that, give money and go to church every week for the purpose of (mindless) tradition.

It's very sad really. I haven't had the heart to turn my family on to this documentary.

I was horrified.
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Your family must know the Truth. The Truth shall set them free.
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Re: Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
All the illegal kids from Central America are the result of Catholic Church discouraging birth control and abortion.
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What was the scandal during Benedict's papacy?

To answer your question, Catholics use the Catholic Church to get the sacraments. It has nothing to do with any particular pope or priest's personal holiness or lack thereof.

Sort of how most people didn't abandon "democracy" during the Nixon years just because there was corruption at the top.
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The Vatican Bank with some sanctioning of pedophilia thrown in. I can't remember the details. Look it up, it's out there.
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What was the scandal during Benedict's papacy?

To answer your question, Catholics use the Catholic Church to get the sacraments. It has nothing to do with any particular pope or priest's personal holiness or lack thereof.

Sort of how most people didn't abandon "democracy" during the Nixon years just because there was corruption at the top.
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That's a pretty damn good summation.

I'm personally done with the Catholic Church, but I tip my hat to your succinct and well-reasoned point, AC.
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catholic here

of course they church is infiltraqted at every chance they evil gets

even they saints theyselvews will be hard put or soretng

but thye priests fo they po, they they honest am, they they excoprcxist man ,

thank u
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Re: Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
I saw that special OP.

It was hair raising to say the least. I often wonder the same thing as you.

I suppose they dismiss all that as yes it's corrupt but we just ignore that, give money and go to church every week for the purpose of (mindless) tradition.

It's very sad really. I haven't had the heart to turn my family on to this documentary.

I was horrified.
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Your family must know the Truth. The Truth shall set them free.
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Yah I know. But get this. My parents are dear sweet TRUE CATHOLICS in their eighties. They are martyrs in many ways. Gave up themselves for their family and friends. Don't mind when people treat them like shit. Never had fun, always saved money. My dad never complained once about anything, to this day. My mom however....lol....and then would feel guilty about complaining and said she's going to hell when she isn't anything less than loving and perfect.

Yah it's dysfunctional but ya know what, that was their generation and particular circumstance. They grew up in a day and age when tptb could be trusted for the most part. They are not stupid but just refuse to believe that such evil can exist. I love them.
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Re: Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
it used to be a - they parshenrr tell they poriest
they presit tell they bishiopo
the bishoip thel la cardinal
the cardinal tell they pope
then they poe to the - in revers swo it like keep they evil at baqy

but then they dissention, like some they prists not even belkeive in they devil

i meqn, that a pretty weak link or woeng

and then it gets worse with some thangs but they pope has not been comporised i think not yet, that they end,m whren they damned have consumed they church

then three days of drakness or swoefrng


thank u
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The rate of child abuse among priests is less than among the general population. It is far less than among rabbis, but you won't hear about that on TV because you-know-joo owns all the stations.
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Re: Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
What was the scandal during Benedict's papacy?

To answer your question, Catholics use the Catholic Church to get the sacraments. It has nothing to do with any particular pope or priest's personal holiness or lack thereof.

Sort of how most people didn't abandon "democracy" during the Nixon years just because there was corruption at the top.
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Actually catholic sheeple think the pope is God's right hand man, instead of being the devil's right hand man for a thousand years or so...
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The Catholic Church is called Mother of Harlots in the bible
The Golden Man in The Moon.
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Re: Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
What was the scandal during Benedict's papacy?

To answer your question, Catholics use the Catholic Church to get the sacraments. It has nothing to do with any particular pope or priest's personal holiness or lack thereof.

Sort of how most people didn't abandon "democracy" during the Nixon years just because there was corruption at the top.
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That's a pretty damn good summation.

I'm personally done with the Catholic Church, but I tip my hat to your succinct and well-reasoned point, AC.
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That makes not one bit of sense whatsoever. Not to mention the response.
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Re: Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
I saw that special OP.

It was hair raising to say the least. I often wonder the same thing as you.

I suppose they dismiss all that as yes it's corrupt but we just ignore that, give money and go to church every week for the purpose of (mindless) tradition.

It's very sad really. I haven't had the heart to turn my family on to this documentary.

I was horrified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7973851


Your family must know the Truth. The Truth shall set them free.
 Quoting: op 24597095


Yah I know. But get this. My parents are dear sweet TRUE CATHOLICS in their eighties. They are martyrs in many ways. Gave up themselves for their family and friends. Don't mind when people treat them like shit. Never had fun, always saved money. My dad never complained once about anything, to this day. My mom however....lol....and then would feel guilty about complaining and said she's going to hell when she isn't anything less than loving and perfect.

Yah it's dysfunctional but ya know what, that was their generation and particular circumstance. They grew up in a day and age when tptb could be trusted for the most part. They are not stupid but just refuse to believe that such evil can exist. I love them.
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Wonder people, your parents. I agree, I hope they don't learn the truth in this life...
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The rate of child abuse among priests is less than among the general population. It is far less than among rabbis, but you won't hear about that on TV because you-know-joo owns all the stations.
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Me thinks you're wrong, but I don't have a link to prove it. Do you?
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The rate of child abuse among priests is less than among the general population. It is far less than among rabbis, but you won't hear about that on TV because you-know-joo owns all the stations.
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Me thinks you're wrong, but I don't have a link to prove it. Do you?
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I will have to dig up a link. It was figured on a forum named "The Phora" that the occurrence with priests is significantly lower than the population as a whole. I could also dig up info on the rabbis, too, but I'm on my tablet now and don't have my password for that forum to search for the thread.
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I will have to dig up a link. It was figured on a forum named "The Phora" that the occurrence with priests is significantly lower than the population as a whole. I could also dig up info on the rabbis, too, but I'm on my tablet now and don't have my password for that forum to search for the thread.
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the problem with any published statistic is that it will be based on known cases of convicted priests.

as stated above the catholic church has since the 70's created havens, dubbed monasteries, to house offenders while the church pays off the victims to keep the reported numbers suppressed...
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Re: Will someone tell me how a single person can support the Catholic church after knowing this...
I saw that special OP.

It was hair raising to say the least. I often wonder the same thing as you.

I suppose they dismiss all that as yes it's corrupt but we just ignore that, give money and go to church every week for the purpose of (mindless) tradition.

It's very sad really. I haven't had the heart to turn my family on to this documentary.

I was horrified.
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Your family must know the Truth. The Truth shall set them free.
 Quoting: op 24597095


Yah I know. But get this. My parents are dear sweet TRUE CATHOLICS in their eighties. They are martyrs in many ways. Gave up themselves for their family and friends. Don't mind when people treat them like shit. Never had fun, always saved money. My dad never complained once about anything, to this day. My mom however....lol....and then would feel guilty about complaining and said she's going to hell when she isn't anything less than loving and perfect.

Yah it's dysfunctional but ya know what, that was their generation and particular circumstance. They grew up in a day and age when tptb could be trusted for the most part. They are not stupid but just refuse to believe that such evil can exist. I love them.
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Wonder people, your parents. I agree, I hope they don't learn the truth in this life...
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Thank you OP. Needless to say I've had to be my own teacher in life lol. As we all should.

It's a different world, and not such a happy one. I really think they are twin souls, grew up dirt poor, both youngest child and found each other, back in the mid forties I think. Can you imagine that world? I envy them.

We are close but then again we are NOT. I always knew that their religion was bullshit from day one. ( I was a wild child, go figure). But it worked for them though and I respect that.

I don't want to be in the world anymore when they and their friends are gone.

The last of love.

And go figure. The religious institution they respected so completely is facing apocalypse (the revealing).

Funny how this thread refuses to be on the front page.
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Feature film documentary Rape of the Soul uncovers embedded imagery in historical and contemporary religious artworks. You will Never Look at art the same way again.

Art comes to life through the motion graphic extractions of a multitude of sexual, occult and horror images embedded within the famous paintings of some of the most recognizable names in history as well as their contemporaries.

These deceptive practices have been utilized as far back as the middle ages and the Italian Renaissance. Famous painting by Da Vinci, Botticelli, Durer, Bosch, El Greco, and many more are exposed.

The history of religious art, along with their embedded images are analyzed leading up to contemporary works containing such satanic and sexual imagery, which is currently being requisitioned and promoted globally by major Catholic organizations, putting the embedded material directly in front of millions.

Utilizing his skills as a visual artist, Michael A. Calace carries the viewer through the fascinating discovery, investigation and exposure of the use of embedding images in art, and details techniques on locating them.

World-renowned PhD’s discuss and detail the various negative effects on those, especially children, who unsuspectingly view embedded imagery in art.

[link to endtimesdecoder.wordpress.com (secure)]

Incl. video
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It infuriates my soul that such good people as my parents and surely many good other souls are being sold a corrupt bag of goods which have nothing to do with Jesus whether you believe He existed or not. And this goes back many centuries.



AHHHHH!!!
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Because most people choose their religion depending on their agenda and vices.There are exceptions to every rule in particular sects.Society has made people believe you must belong to a certain faction to be accepted.Anyone choosing to do the latter is an outcast and frowned upon.Almost like relationships,some people put up with horrible circumstances in fear of being alone..
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Feature film documentary Rape of the Soul uncovers embedded imagery in historical and contemporary religious artworks. You will Never Look at art the same way again.

Art comes to life through the motion graphic extractions of a multitude of sexual, occult and horror images embedded within the famous paintings of some of the most recognizable names in history as well as their contemporaries.

These deceptive practices have been utilized as far back as the middle ages and the Italian Renaissance. Famous painting by Da Vinci, Botticelli, Durer, Bosch, El Greco, and many more are exposed.

The history of religious art, along with their embedded images are analyzed leading up to contemporary works containing such satanic and sexual imagery, which is currently being requisitioned and promoted globally by major Catholic organizations, putting the embedded material directly in front of millions.

Utilizing his skills as a visual artist, Michael A. Calace carries the viewer through the fascinating discovery, investigation and exposure of the use of embedding images in art, and details techniques on locating them.

World-renowned PhD’s discuss and detail the various negative effects on those, especially children, who unsuspectingly view embedded imagery in art.

[link to endtimesdecoder.wordpress.com (secure)]

Incl. video
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Germany can you give me a quick example? I looked for this on Netflix just on the off chance but they don't have it. I'm signing off shortly but I know this is important.

Thanks much
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What was the scandal during Benedict's papacy?

To answer your question, Catholics use the Catholic Church to get the sacraments. It has nothing to do with any particular pope or priest's personal holiness or lack thereof.

Sort of how most people didn't abandon "democracy" during the Nixon years just because there was corruption at the top.
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A house does not fall from the babies up, it falls from the parents down with curses cast upon their innocent babes...

All glass houses fall from the top down...

MJ
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The rate of child abuse among priests is less than among the general population. It is far less than among rabbis, but you won't hear about that on TV because you-know-joo owns all the stations.
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Hmmm how can one possibly know the ACTUAL rate of child abuse by priests when you have an organization with a hierarchy that made a habit of covering it up and shuffling these priests around to different areas/locations instead of reporting their crimes to the police?

hmm
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Because most people choose their religion depending on their agenda and vices.There are exceptions to every rule in particular sects.Society has made people believe you must belong to a certain faction to be accepted.Anyone choosing to do the latter is an outcast and frowned upon.Almost like relationships,some people put up with horrible circumstances in fear of being alone..
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Yes I can see that. It's sad because religion is all falling apart when deep down in our soul we are spiritual and craving for truth and love but our modern sick society no longer addresses the human being.
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Your family must know the Truth. The Truth shall set them free.
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Yah I know. But get this. My parents are dear sweet TRUE CATHOLICS in their eighties. They are martyrs in many ways. Gave up themselves for their family and friends. Don't mind when people treat them like shit. Never had fun, always saved money. My dad never complained once about anything, to this day. My mom however....lol....and then would feel guilty about complaining and said she's going to hell when she isn't anything less than loving and perfect.

Yah it's dysfunctional but ya know what, that was their generation and particular circumstance. They grew up in a day and age when tptb could be trusted for the most part. They are not stupid but just refuse to believe that such evil can exist. I love them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7973851


Wonder people, your parents. I agree, I hope they don't learn the truth in this life...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24597095



Thank you OP. Needless to say I've had to be my own teacher in life lol. As we all should.

It's a different world, and not such a happy one. I really think they are twin souls, grew up dirt poor, both youngest child and found each other, back in the mid forties I think. Can you imagine that world? I envy them.

We are close but then again we are NOT. I always knew that their religion was bullshit from day one. ( I was a wild child, go figure). But it worked for them though and I respect that.

I don't want to be in the world anymore when they and their friends are gone.

The last of love.

And go figure. The religious institution they respected so completely is facing apocalypse (the revealing).

Funny how this thread refuses to be on the front page.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7973851


(the revealing) of the men of Syn whom are the sons of perditions, the Nephilim as they are known...

Remember, the continental congress tried twice to pass the Man Boy Love Act to protect these one's who have been predators against innocent babes and that is why half of the Temple book of the S.R.F.M. is the Chtholic bible and these ones whom are called Politicians tried to protect these Parasites...

Poli is many

Tic is a blood sucking parasite...

But not all who are S.R.F.M. are evil and wicked, not all...



MJ
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To be corrupt is one thing, but to say you are close to God and be the MOST corrupt, is...is...is... WTF?

[link to www.pbs.org]

Seems to me that the prophecy of the last pope still stands...
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I guess because of the same reasons Jesus didn't quit because of Judas.
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I will have to dig up a link. It was figured on a forum named "The Phora" that the occurrence with priests is significantly lower than the population as a whole. I could also dig up info on the rabbis, too, but I'm on my tablet now and don't have my password for that forum to search for the thread.
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the problem with any published statistic is that it will be based on known cases of convicted priests.

as stated above the catholic church has since the 70's created havens, dubbed monasteries, to house offenders while the church pays off the victims to keep the reported numbers suppressed...
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How many people do you think would accept bribes to stay silent about their children being abused? It has to be a minority of cases, far less than the number reported.
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There is very good discussion goin on here, thank you friends. It it not easy as we are living in convoluted times.





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