Don't you glp'ers get it, the US is a CORPORATION, not your sacred 'country' | |
SteamrolledGobias
User ID: 57782070 United States 07/18/2014 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been trying to understand this and I'll post back if I find anything useful.. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias would really like to hear some real-world applicable wisdom about how this works. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Start here: [link to www.youtube.com] thanks for the help I've heard Maxwell plenty of times.. I'm looking for concrete steps and if I'm successful I'll report back with findings. So far I've found UCC-1 is a form filled out and sent to the Treasury to reclaim your checking account. However I also found this quote: "this gentleman on many occasions suggests filing a UCC-1 financing statement to reclaim rights to your Strawman account. However, the UCC filings submitted by The One People’s Public Trust have effectively taken care of this step for EVERYONE on the planet. Therefore, it is no longer necessary for individuals to file their own." This seems to imply UCC-1 is not necessary. so how does one reclaim their BC trust account? also is the Treasury account the same thing as "cashing in" your Birth Certificate security? lots of questions, Maxwell only scratches the surface and I'm a bit more down the rabbit hole by now |
SteamrolledGobias
User ID: 57782070 United States 07/18/2014 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you have more info on birth cert trusts? is my birth cert collecting money for me, and if so who is the trustee? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias am I allowed to withdraw the capital from my trust at any time? how do I go about doing this? who do I contact to learn more? I would talk to a lawyer but I fear 90% of them don't know shit and it would be a waste of my time. Essentially the Pope owns you. The Vatican owns ALL corporations, and you are a corporate asset, as well as a corporation unto yourself via your 'legal name'. The actual value is initially held in financial institutions in the City of London (not LONDON). The "City of London", like the Vatican and Washington DC, is an independent nation within another foreign nation, with it's own laws, borders, governance, flag, etc... The City of London runs the currency, DC is the enforcement arm, creating wars, transporting/trafficking drugs/humans/illicit products, and The Vatican sets the LAW- the laws that ALL corporations fall under. Your 'legal' name is a corporation. It falls under the Vatican Law. You are a martime admiralty product, 'delivered' by your mother, over water (water breaking), coming through the birth 'canal', and registered by the 'doc'/dock, on your 'birth certificate'/ship manifest. Its all about maritime admiralty banking laws. That is why all ships are female- they birth cargo aka $$ value. As slaves, we have no access to our value at this time. This has been the way of the world for several hundred years. However, the system is falling currently. Jordan Maxwell has good info on this subject matter, and he was recently victimized by an unexplained fire, destroying much of his proprietary research and resources. then why do so many post about their experiences online? it seems at least some have accessed their financial instruments. why do I find letters like this which read: "we have processed your payment as requested for $226.17 from your Prepaid Treasury Account" [link to i.imgur.com] Last Edited by SteamrolledGobias on 07/18/2014 08:09 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59917055 United States 07/18/2014 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you have more info on birth cert trusts? is my birth cert collecting money for me, and if so who is the trustee? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias am I allowed to withdraw the capital from my trust at any time? how do I go about doing this? who do I contact to learn more? I would talk to a lawyer but I fear 90% of them don't know shit and it would be a waste of my time. Essentially the Pope owns you. The Vatican owns ALL corporations, and you are a corporate asset, as well as a corporation unto yourself via your 'legal name'. The actual value is initially held in financial institutions in the City of London (not LONDON). The "City of London", like the Vatican and Washington DC, is an independent nation within another foreign nation, with it's own laws, borders, governance, flag, etc... The City of London runs the currency, DC is the enforcement arm, creating wars, transporting/trafficking drugs/humans/illicit products, and The Vatican sets the LAW- the laws that ALL corporations fall under. Your 'legal' name is a corporation. It falls under the Vatican Law. You are a martime admiralty product, 'delivered' by your mother, over water (water breaking), coming through the birth 'canal', and registered by the 'doc'/dock, on your 'birth certificate'/ship manifest. Its all about maritime admiralty banking laws. That is why all ships are female- they birth cargo aka $$ value. As slaves, we have no access to our value at this time. This has been the way of the world for several hundred years. However, the system is falling currently. Jordan Maxwell has good info on this subject matter, and he was recently victimized by an unexplained fire, destroying much of his proprietary research and resources. what if you are a secession birth? you dont come out a canal, nor water. Technically it wouldn't even be called birth. |
NOLAangel
User ID: 11685234 United States 07/18/2014 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been trying to understand this and I'll post back if I find anything useful.. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias would really like to hear some real-world applicable wisdom about how this works. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Start here: [link to www.youtube.com] thanks for the help I've heard Maxwell plenty of times.. I'm looking for concrete steps and if I'm successful I'll report back with findings. So far I've found UCC-1 is a form filled out and sent to the Treasury to reclaim your checking account. However I also found this quote: "this gentleman on many occasions suggests filing a UCC-1 financing statement to reclaim rights to your Strawman account. However, the UCC filings submitted by The One People’s Public Trust have effectively taken care of this step for EVERYONE on the planet. Therefore, it is no longer necessary for individuals to file their own." This seems to imply UCC-1 is not necessary. so how does one reclaim their BC trust account? also is the Treasury account the same thing as "cashing in" your Birth Certificate security? lots of questions, Maxwell only scratches the surface and I'm a bit more down the rabbit hole by now I know someone that knows a lot about this subject. And will get him to post back to you this weekend, if he will. The only problem with protesting the US corporation is that you need to become a sovereign to do anything about it. With sovereignty comes much problems. We have an attorney friend who has represented them and the courts do not like them. Most of them end up in jail. |
Bongo7
User ID: 60183416 United States 07/18/2014 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a so-called american. Don't let the proxy fool you, or try to change the POINT shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58941887 We are ALL property. We own nothing. Understand this- wake up. They say that one of the reasons the hippie movement failed was because people are not genetically programmed to listen to just anybody--like a dirty guy with long hair or some random person on the internet--they need to have a sign that they are being given this information from some sort of authority or professional--like a guy on a podium. :-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53889297 United States 07/18/2014 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you have more info on birth cert trusts? is my birth cert collecting money for me, and if so who is the trustee? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias am I allowed to withdraw the capital from my trust at any time? how do I go about doing this? who do I contact to learn more? I would talk to a lawyer but I fear 90% of them don't know shit and it would be a waste of my time. Essentially the Pope owns you. The Vatican owns ALL corporations, and you are a corporate asset, as well as a corporation unto yourself via your 'legal name'. The actual value is initially held in financial institutions in the City of London (not LONDON). The "City of London", like the Vatican and Washington DC, is an independent nation within another foreign nation, with it's own laws, borders, governance, flag, etc... The City of London runs the currency, DC is the enforcement arm, creating wars, transporting/trafficking drugs/humans/illicit products, and The Vatican sets the LAW- the laws that ALL corporations fall under. Your 'legal' name is a corporation. It falls under the Vatican Law. You are a martime admiralty product, 'delivered' by your mother, over water (water breaking), coming through the birth 'canal', and registered by the 'doc'/dock, on your 'birth certificate'/ship manifest. Its all about maritime admiralty banking laws. That is why all ships are female- they birth cargo aka $$ value. As slaves, we have no access to our value at this time. This has been the way of the world for several hundred years. However, the system is falling currently. Jordan Maxwell has good info on this subject matter, and he was recently victimized by an unexplained fire, destroying much of his proprietary research and resources. then why do so many post about their experiences online? it seems at least some have accessed their financial instruments. why do I find letters like this which read: "we have processed your payment as requested for $226.17 from your Prepaid Treasury Account" [link to i.imgur.com] I do not know, but i would guess that if anyone had access, they would be sovereigns, not 'citizens'. The process for that is intentionally hard to come by. Most are born into it, or 'titled' by a sovereign or royal. If it can be done, it will likely be the most difficult and paperwork intensive quest of ones life... obviously, by design. |
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SteamrolledGobias
User ID: 57782070 United States 07/18/2014 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been trying to understand this and I'll post back if I find anything useful.. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias would really like to hear some real-world applicable wisdom about how this works. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Start here: [link to www.youtube.com] thanks for the help I've heard Maxwell plenty of times.. I'm looking for concrete steps and if I'm successful I'll report back with findings. So far I've found UCC-1 is a form filled out and sent to the Treasury to reclaim your checking account. However I also found this quote: "this gentleman on many occasions suggests filing a UCC-1 financing statement to reclaim rights to your Strawman account. However, the UCC filings submitted by The One People’s Public Trust have effectively taken care of this step for EVERYONE on the planet. Therefore, it is no longer necessary for individuals to file their own." This seems to imply UCC-1 is not necessary. so how does one reclaim their BC trust account? also is the Treasury account the same thing as "cashing in" your Birth Certificate security? lots of questions, Maxwell only scratches the surface and I'm a bit more down the rabbit hole by now I know someone that knows a lot about this subject. And will get him to post back to you this weekend, if he will. The only problem with protesting the US corporation is that you need to become a sovereign to do anything about it. With sovereignty comes much problems. We have an attorney friend who has represented them and the courts do not like them. Most of them end up in jail. Thanks much, if he can post in this thread or PM me I would be very very grateful. do I need to become a sovereign in order to reclaim the trust? Is that part of the documentation process? not sure if you have the answer or not.. yes it does seem like many who try to do this end up in prison. I will also try to seek legal counsel on this topic. but at the initial meeting with a lawyer I'd like to have all the information ready to present. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53889297 United States 07/18/2014 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you have more info on birth cert trusts? is my birth cert collecting money for me, and if so who is the trustee? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias am I allowed to withdraw the capital from my trust at any time? how do I go about doing this? who do I contact to learn more? I would talk to a lawyer but I fear 90% of them don't know shit and it would be a waste of my time. Essentially the Pope owns you. The Vatican owns ALL corporations, and you are a corporate asset, as well as a corporation unto yourself via your 'legal name'. The actual value is initially held in financial institutions in the City of London (not LONDON). The "City of London", like the Vatican and Washington DC, is an independent nation within another foreign nation, with it's own laws, borders, governance, flag, etc... The City of London runs the currency, DC is the enforcement arm, creating wars, transporting/trafficking drugs/humans/illicit products, and The Vatican sets the LAW- the laws that ALL corporations fall under. Your 'legal' name is a corporation. It falls under the Vatican Law. You are a martime admiralty product, 'delivered' by your mother, over water (water breaking), coming through the birth 'canal', and registered by the 'doc'/dock, on your 'birth certificate'/ship manifest. Its all about maritime admiralty banking laws. That is why all ships are female- they birth cargo aka $$ value. As slaves, we have no access to our value at this time. This has been the way of the world for several hundred years. However, the system is falling currently. Jordan Maxwell has good info on this subject matter, and he was recently victimized by an unexplained fire, destroying much of his proprietary research and resources. what if you are a secession birth? you dont come out a canal, nor water. Technically it wouldn't even be called birth. Assuming you mean c-section aka caesarean, it does not matter. Her body is property, as is all of its cargo, forever. Though if the child were to stay off the radar, being born outside of a hospital, without record, birth certificate, or legal name, then that child MAY be a sovereign- I don't know... This is why so many immigrants are being invited in... mo' money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53387659 United States 07/18/2014 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish governments were actually corporations who administer state matters (like the military and post office). Then we as consumers are free to choose which corporate governmental providers to chose from. Instead we're stuck with this farce called a Democracy where any demagogue promising free Obama phones to a bunch of 60's IQ people get elected again and again. |
NOLAangel
User ID: 11685234 United States 07/18/2014 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you have more info on birth cert trusts? is my birth cert collecting money for me, and if so who is the trustee? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias am I allowed to withdraw the capital from my trust at any time? how do I go about doing this? who do I contact to learn more? I would talk to a lawyer but I fear 90% of them don't know shit and it would be a waste of my time. Essentially the Pope owns you. The Vatican owns ALL corporations, and you are a corporate asset, as well as a corporation unto yourself via your 'legal name'. The actual value is initially held in financial institutions in the City of London (not LONDON). The "City of London", like the Vatican and Washington DC, is an independent nation within another foreign nation, with it's own laws, borders, governance, flag, etc... The City of London runs the currency, DC is the enforcement arm, creating wars, transporting/trafficking drugs/humans/illicit products, and The Vatican sets the LAW- the laws that ALL corporations fall under. Your 'legal' name is a corporation. It falls under the Vatican Law. You are a martime admiralty product, 'delivered' by your mother, over water (water breaking), coming through the birth 'canal', and registered by the 'doc'/dock, on your 'birth certificate'/ship manifest. Its all about maritime admiralty banking laws. That is why all ships are female- they birth cargo aka $$ value. As slaves, we have no access to our value at this time. This has been the way of the world for several hundred years. However, the system is falling currently. Jordan Maxwell has good info on this subject matter, and he was recently victimized by an unexplained fire, destroying much of his proprietary research and resources. what if you are a secession birth? you dont come out a canal, nor water. Technically it wouldn't even be called birth. Assuming you mean c-section aka caesarean, it does not matter. Her body is property, as is all of its cargo, forever. Though if the child were to stay off the radar, being born outside of a hospital, without record, birth certificate, or legal name, then that child MAY be a sovereign- I don't know... This is why so many immigrants are being invited in... mo' money. Last Edited by NOLAangel on 07/18/2014 08:22 PM |
SteamrolledGobias
User ID: 57782070 United States 07/18/2014 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you have more info on birth cert trusts? is my birth cert collecting money for me, and if so who is the trustee? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias am I allowed to withdraw the capital from my trust at any time? how do I go about doing this? who do I contact to learn more? I would talk to a lawyer but I fear 90% of them don't know shit and it would be a waste of my time. Essentially the Pope owns you. The Vatican owns ALL corporations, and you are a corporate asset, as well as a corporation unto yourself via your 'legal name'. The actual value is initially held in financial institutions in the City of London (not LONDON). The "City of London", like the Vatican and Washington DC, is an independent nation within another foreign nation, with it's own laws, borders, governance, flag, etc... The City of London runs the currency, DC is the enforcement arm, creating wars, transporting/trafficking drugs/humans/illicit products, and The Vatican sets the LAW- the laws that ALL corporations fall under. Your 'legal' name is a corporation. It falls under the Vatican Law. You are a martime admiralty product, 'delivered' by your mother, over water (water breaking), coming through the birth 'canal', and registered by the 'doc'/dock, on your 'birth certificate'/ship manifest. Its all about maritime admiralty banking laws. That is why all ships are female- they birth cargo aka $$ value. As slaves, we have no access to our value at this time. This has been the way of the world for several hundred years. However, the system is falling currently. Jordan Maxwell has good info on this subject matter, and he was recently victimized by an unexplained fire, destroying much of his proprietary research and resources. then why do so many post about their experiences online? it seems at least some have accessed their financial instruments. why do I find letters like this which read: "we have processed your payment as requested for $226.17 from your Prepaid Treasury Account" [link to i.imgur.com] I do not know, but i would guess that if anyone had access, they would be sovereigns, not 'citizens'. The process for that is intentionally hard to come by. Most are born into it, or 'titled' by a sovereign or royal. If it can be done, it will likely be the most difficult and paperwork intensive quest of ones life... obviously, by design. I am young but have quite a deep-seated interest in the realms of high finance, law, and business I love paperwork and I love legalese sounds like fun TBH. what's the worst that happens prison? kinda seems like this entire country is a prison already. do you have any information I should follow regarding sovereign citizenship? it seems you are pretty confident that nobody can access their corporate trust without being a sovereign |
NOLAangel
User ID: 11685234 United States 07/18/2014 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the help I've heard Maxwell plenty of times.. I'm looking for concrete steps and if I'm successful I'll report back with findings. So far I've found UCC-1 is a form filled out and sent to the Treasury to reclaim your checking account. However I also found this quote: "this gentleman on many occasions suggests filing a UCC-1 financing statement to reclaim rights to your Strawman account. However, the UCC filings submitted by The One People’s Public Trust have effectively taken care of this step for EVERYONE on the planet. Therefore, it is no longer necessary for individuals to file their own." This seems to imply UCC-1 is not necessary. so how does one reclaim their BC trust account? also is the Treasury account the same thing as "cashing in" your Birth Certificate security? lots of questions, Maxwell only scratches the surface and I'm a bit more down the rabbit hole by now I know someone that knows a lot about this subject. And will get him to post back to you this weekend, if he will. The only problem with protesting the US corporation is that you need to become a sovereign to do anything about it. With sovereignty comes much problems. We have an attorney friend who has represented them and the courts do not like them. Most of them end up in jail. Thanks much, if he can post in this thread or PM me I would be very very grateful. do I need to become a sovereign in order to reclaim the trust? Is that part of the documentation process? not sure if you have the answer or not.. yes it does seem like many who try to do this end up in prison. I will also try to seek legal counsel on this topic. but at the initial meeting with a lawyer I'd like to have all the information ready to present. I feel sure he will post. He is not a GLP member or user, at this time, so he will use this thread to communicate. I will see him tomorrow. Any questions you have he will answer as he is passionate about this subject. Just keep checking back on this thread. |
SteamrolledGobias
User ID: 57782070 United States 07/18/2014 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^ yes thanks that would be fantastic It does seem that reclaiming the strawman is necessary because the bond is not technically owned by the natural person - it's owned by the strawman which is controlled by the secured party(US Gov?) "If a person wants to gain back their liberty and independence then first the person needs to acquire title and ownership of the straw man back. Once the person regains ownership of the straw man then the person also controls the rights to property that the straw-man is able to accumulate." Last Edited by SteamrolledGobias on 07/18/2014 08:44 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53889297 United States 07/18/2014 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am young but have quite a deep-seated interest in the realms of high finance, law, and business Quoting: SteamrolledGobias I love paperwork and I love legalese sounds like fun TBH. what's the worst that happens prison? kinda seems like this entire country is a prison already. do you have any information I should follow regarding sovereign citizenship? it seems you are pretty confident that nobody can access their corporate trust without being a sovereign It is a prison, indeed. As far as pursuing sovereignty, I am not in a position to give advice. That said, I am aware of folks who CLAIM to have done it, and they processes seem to include everything one can do to eliminate CONTRACTS in their legal names ie. no bank account, bils, loans, internet personas in that name (facebook, twitter, email addresses), voter registration, drivers license, insurance, etc... There are documents and permissions available that for example grant one the right to travel freely on the roadway, that is registered in one's county. I don't advice anyone do this without significant research and a verifiable sovereign as a mentor. The system is designed to prevent this and to protect itself, so filing incorrect or false documentation could lead to an undesirable outcome. __________________________________ All in all, the world is about to change beyond our wildest dreams, and ALL of this is very near to morphing into something entirely different. My advise would be to enjoy the 'now', live in the present, and don't worry about this shit. Know it. Spread it, as it helps people to awaken, and the more and faster that happens, the sooner the major and magnificent changes will occur. I sense time is short. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53889297 United States 07/18/2014 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish governments were actually corporations who administer state matters (like the military and post office). Then we as consumers are free to choose which corporate governmental providers to chose from. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53387659 Instead we're stuck with this farce called a Democracy where any demagogue promising free Obama phones to a bunch of 60's IQ people get elected again and again. Government: Govern= control Ment= mente = mind MIND CONTROL Their function is to manage the herd, extract value, and maintain THE ILLUSION Voting is an illusion- it is not real and it is a submission to slavery. Obama is a controlled actor, as they all are |
SteamrolledGobias
User ID: 57782070 United States 07/18/2014 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am young but have quite a deep-seated interest in the realms of high finance, law, and business Quoting: SteamrolledGobias I love paperwork and I love legalese sounds like fun TBH. what's the worst that happens prison? kinda seems like this entire country is a prison already. do you have any information I should follow regarding sovereign citizenship? it seems you are pretty confident that nobody can access their corporate trust without being a sovereign It is a prison, indeed. As far as pursuing sovereignty, I am not in a position to give advice. That said, I am aware of folks who CLAIM to have done it, and they processes seem to include everything one can do to eliminate CONTRACTS in their legal names ie. no bank account, bils, loans, internet personas in that name (facebook, twitter, email addresses), voter registration, drivers license, insurance, etc... There are documents and permissions available that for example grant one the right to travel freely on the roadway, that is registered in one's county. I don't advice anyone do this without significant research and a verifiable sovereign as a mentor. The system is designed to prevent this and to protect itself, so filing incorrect or false documentation could lead to an undesirable outcome. __________________________________ All in all, the world is about to change beyond our wildest dreams, and ALL of this is very near to morphing into something entirely different. My advise would be to enjoy the 'now', live in the present, and don't worry about this shit. Know it. Spread it, as it helps people to awaken, and the more and faster that happens, the sooner the major and magnificent changes will occur. I sense time is short. yes many thanks for the response I will keep this in mind during my research |
beebee
User ID: 59022922 Canada 07/18/2014 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The owners can and will do whatever they want to their corporation and it's assets, ie YOU. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58941887 Stop bitching about YOUR country- that is an illusion that doesn't exist. How much more evidence do you need? Research birth certificates, what they mean and who OWNS you. What social security is. What the legal definition of PERSON is. And BLACK. And WHITE. And CITIZEN. Stop falling for the bullshit. We are all born slaves/property- our bodies anyway... You're right. A quick search at Dunn and Bradstreet confirms that. Everything we've been taught is "government" is NOT. Every 'department' is either a corporation of its own or is a subsidiary of USA. The same holds true for Canada and many other countries. [link to creditreports.dnb.com (secure)] beebee |
NewEarth 5D User ID: 60348262 Brazil 07/18/2014 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish governments were actually corporations who administer state matters (like the military and post office). Then we as consumers are free to choose which corporate governmental providers to chose from. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53387659 Instead we're stuck with this farce called a Democracy where any demagogue promising free Obama phones to a bunch of 60's IQ people get elected again and again. Government: Govern= control Ment= mente = mind MIND CONTROL Their function is to manage the herd, extract value, and maintain THE ILLUSION Voting is an illusion- it is not real and it is a submission to slavery. Obama is a controlled actor, as they all are Obama is a Lighworker according to Mike Quinsey' Salusa. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58543414 United States 07/19/2014 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Choose unity or separation. The massa loves when the slaves fight each other- no heat on him... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58941887 The babylon system is the enemy, not your brother. So true! wtf u talking about ? the slave masters are slaves themself that is the meaning of fallen doesn't matter how many slaves the slave masters has they are all slaves to begin with don't become a slave and fight/kill/help when necessary |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60374391 Germany 07/20/2014 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Choose unity or separation. The massa loves when the slaves fight each other- no heat on him... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58941887 The babylon system is the enemy, not your brother. So true! wtf u talking about ? the slave masters are slaves themself that is the meaning of fallen doesn't matter how many slaves the slave masters has they are all slaves to begin with don't become a slave and fight/kill/help when necessary There is no 'become'... it is the nature of our existence here currently-slaves. |
SmartestOne User ID: 51963380 United States 07/20/2014 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We STILL have to reside on this "plantation," so we are STILL adversely affected by the invasion. Everything OP wrote is correct. That said, one of my problems with "sovereigns" is that so many of them start quoting international law. UN, anyone? |
SmartestOne User ID: 51963380 United States 07/20/2014 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This started out as a great thread. Too bad it's been derailed by MORONS espousing JORDAN MAXWELL, aka Russell J. Pine. Do you people research ANYTHING before jumping onto the bandwagon? (No need to answer -- it's obvious.) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11685234 United States 07/20/2014 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anon Coward 58941887, the shock value is cool and all but the detailed educational approach works better. Allow me to explain what I can. so who technically owns the promissory note/trust? are they the same thing? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias is the trust actually a debt security? I don't see how that would work, but the idea could be that the issuer (USA Inc) owes the debt holder(Fed Reserve) a certain amount of money from the debt security. but you're saying the trust & the bond are 2 separate financial instruments.... A trust (such as a driver's license/birth certificate/any other document derived from your record of live birth associated with your corporate legal entity) is property of the corporation you contract with. They exchange this trust for full liability of your actions. Example: The State government owns your drivers license. When you go against the statutes listed in the Motor Vehicles Act (policies you agreed to upon signing the contract) then you have to answer to them in court since they are liable for your actions. Side Note: Officers will not take action on you before you present your drivers license to them. This is because your drivers license establishes you are under their jurisdiction where your rights are replaced by privileges. Anyway, a trust is the exchange of title of property for the benefit of another (usually a beneficiary/share holder in corporations.) A promissory note is an agreement that another individual is going to pay you upon certain terms and conditions. This is done for mortgage in banking. can anyone clarify exactly how this works? who do I need to speak with to learn how much this trust is worth? am I indebted to the Fed or do they owe me money? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias when is the maturity date? Every year you are entitled to a sum of money the bond on the back of your birth certificate generates. There is a man named Dean Clifford who does educational videos on Trust Law and goes into gaining revenue. People put his lectures and interviews on youtube for easy access so I recommend researching him. Note he resides in Canada, however, since Canada and the US are both subcontracted to the UK the techniques he uses over there works here as well, as he points out in some interviews. I cannot imagine that a system like this would be 100% gatelocked from the public. How are these records not searchable? I don't expect it to be easy, but if this is true there must be some logic to it all Quoting: SteamrolledGobias Aside from looking up how other Sovereigns such as Dean Clifford, Robert Menard, etc. have succeeded it's very word of mouth. I learned from talking to Lawyers, Law Enforcement, Military, Freemen and other knowledgeable entities as well as reading legal documents and supreme court rulings that can be sworn into evidence like Briscoe v. LaHue, 460 U.S. 325 (1983.) To give you an overview let us assume you were to become a sovereign, this is how your life would run: Birth: You were assigned a record of live birth stating that you were born 'on the land' of the country. At this moment you have unalienable rights and can act as a freeman 'on the land' a.k.a. sovereign citizen. The Deception: Your parents were given a document to sign to create your legal entity (your name in all capital letters last name first, comma, and then your first name) which is then assigned to you. What your parents were not told is that they just abandoned ownership of your legal person by signing this document after which is seized as chattel property (bondsman/slave) to the government under the Laws of Maritime Salvage to be used as collateral to float bonds for loans. This document, as you may have guessed, is your Birth Certificate which derived from your record of live birth. Employment: Welcome to your new job as an agent/employee/trustee of the government to whom you must pay taxes that get stolen, pay social security which you won't see, and obey all statues (any document with Act in the title i.e. Motor Vehicles Act/Drug Control and Substance Act/NDAA/etc) else face paying fines/fees or being imprisoned. A 'Guaranteed' Future: You are assigned a social security number to identify which employee you are (important.) You are told about this great pension plan, as only employees pay into a pension plan, which will benefit you once you retire. It sounds like a great idea and will only cost you up to a quarter of your life earnings. Eyes Open: You studied Law and the system well enough to hold your own self representing in court and have awakened to the fact of your legal enslavement to corporations. Identifying that your social security number makes you a policy slave inspires you to abandon it. Quitting Work: Documents are sent into the IRS stating your are withdrawing your social security. Notice is sent to the appropriate offices of government that you are no longer working as their agent and they will be held liable upon their officers abusing your rights else face fines/fees via a fee schedule. Keep copies of these documents as you will need to show them to your employer when elaborating that your paycheck is to see no more deductions from taxes/social security and that you waive all benefits. You abandon all government related trusts that you have; licenses, birth certificate, etc. by returning them to their owner. Sovereign Ascension: Congratulations, you are now truly fighting for freedom. At this moment you have accepted all liability for your actions, the only document in your possession is your record of live birth, and you now have rights protected by the Constitution and Universal Declaration of Human Rights. You are no longer a 'legal' citizen of the United States. Yes, this makes you a criminal because a crime means to go against what is legal. This is actually a good thing because instead of being a 'legal' citizen with privileges you are now a 'lawful' citizen with rights. The Battle: Officers are under the presumption that you still within their legal jurisdiction. An example of this is an officer pulls you over for speeding (even though you have no license, registration, or proof of insurance.) He presumes you are breaking a statute (corporate policy) when you are not even an employee to the corporation to whom the statute belongs. You record him and hold him liable for infringing your rights and challenge jurisdiction in court. The rest of this part gets very involved. What I told you is just the tip of the iceberg but I can elaborate. Point of this section is; prepare to get harassed and prepare to fight for your freedom. The upside to this is you can become very wealthy from your rights being abused thanks to the fee schedule I mentioned earlier. |
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User ID: 57782070 United States 07/20/2014 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it seems like I really need to research a lot more. I can immediately see the disadvantages with this process, such as not being able to fly outside the country(no passport). I'm young so I think finding a mentor IRL would help me at least get a better perspective on the issue... At the very least I want to understand on my own. Knowledge is power. I've got just a few questions if you have the time: 1) what "kind" of lawyer should I be looking to talk with? IE. what type of law should they have studied? I assume not every lawyer knows about this stuff but I'll drive around to meet with various individuals just to understand how this works. 2) can a sovereign still use FRNs and hold a bank account? 3) can I check the balance of my BC bond without becoming a sovereign? Or do I need to reclaim my strawman before being allowed access to this financial instrument? I'm curious to lookup the bond number just get a value and prove to my family this is 100% real thanks again for your help. I plan to look for a lawyer to speak with sometime in the near future |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60374391 Germany 07/20/2014 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anon Coward 58941887, the shock value is cool and all but the detailed educational approach works better. Allow me to explain what I can. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11685234 so who technically owns the promissory note/trust? are they the same thing? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias is the trust actually a debt security? I don't see how that would work, but the idea could be that the issuer (USA Inc) owes the debt holder(Fed Reserve) a certain amount of money from the debt security. but you're saying the trust & the bond are 2 separate financial instruments.... A trust (such as a driver's license/birth certificate/any other document derived from your record of live birth associated with your corporate legal entity) is property of the corporation you contract with. They exchange this trust for full liability of your actions. Example: The State government owns your drivers license. When you go against the statutes listed in the Motor Vehicles Act (policies you agreed to upon signing the contract) then you have to answer to them in court since they are liable for your actions. Side Note: Officers will not take action on you before you present your drivers license to them. This is because your drivers license establishes you are under their jurisdiction where your rights are replaced by privileges. Anyway, a trust is the exchange of title of property for the benefit of another (usually a beneficiary/share holder in corporations.) A promissory note is an agreement that another individual is going to pay you upon certain terms and conditions. This is done for mortgage in banking. can anyone clarify exactly how this works? who do I need to speak with to learn how much this trust is worth? am I indebted to the Fed or do they owe me money? Quoting: SteamrolledGobias when is the maturity date? Every year you are entitled to a sum of money the bond on the back of your birth certificate generates. There is a man named Dean Clifford who does educational videos on Trust Law and goes into gaining revenue. People put his lectures and interviews on youtube for easy access so I recommend researching him. Note he resides in Canada, however, since Canada and the US are both subcontracted to the UK the techniques he uses over there works here as well, as he points out in some interviews. I cannot imagine that a system like this would be 100% gatelocked from the public. How are these records not searchable? I don't expect it to be easy, but if this is true there must be some logic to it all Quoting: SteamrolledGobias Aside from looking up how other Sovereigns such as Dean Clifford, Robert Menard, etc. have succeeded it's very word of mouth. I learned from talking to Lawyers, Law Enforcement, Military, Freemen and other knowledgeable entities as well as reading legal documents and supreme court rulings that can be sworn into evidence like Briscoe v. LaHue, 460 U.S. 325 (1983.) To give you an overview let us assume you were to become a sovereign, this is how your life would run: Birth: You were assigned a record of live birth stating that you were born 'on the land' of the country. At this moment you have unalienable rights and can act as a freeman 'on the land' a.k.a. sovereign citizen. The Deception: Your parents were given a document to sign to create your legal entity (your name in all capital letters last name first, comma, and then your first name) which is then assigned to you. What your parents were not told is that they just abandoned ownership of your legal person by signing this document after which is seized as chattel property (bondsman/slave) to the government under the Laws of Maritime Salvage to be used as collateral to float bonds for loans. This document, as you may have guessed, is your Birth Certificate which derived from your record of live birth. Employment: Welcome to your new job as an agent/employee/trustee of the government to whom you must pay taxes that get stolen, pay social security which you won't see, and obey all statues (any document with Act in the title i.e. Motor Vehicles Act/Drug Control and Substance Act/NDAA/etc) else face paying fines/fees or being imprisoned. A 'Guaranteed' Future: You are assigned a social security number to identify which employee you are (important.) You are told about this great pension plan, as only employees pay into a pension plan, which will benefit you once you retire. It sounds like a great idea and will only cost you up to a quarter of your life earnings. Eyes Open: You studied Law and the system well enough to hold your own self representing in court and have awakened to the fact of your legal enslavement to corporations. Identifying that your social security number makes you a policy slave inspires you to abandon it. Quitting Work: Documents are sent into the IRS stating your are withdrawing your social security. Notice is sent to the appropriate offices of government that you are no longer working as their agent and they will be held liable upon their officers abusing your rights else face fines/fees via a fee schedule. Keep copies of these documents as you will need to show them to your employer when elaborating that your paycheck is to see no more deductions from taxes/social security and that you waive all benefits. You abandon all government related trusts that you have; licenses, birth certificate, etc. by returning them to their owner. Sovereign Ascension: Congratulations, you are now truly fighting for freedom. At this moment you have accepted all liability for your actions, the only document in your possession is your record of live birth, and you now have rights protected by the Constitution and Universal Declaration of Human Rights. You are no longer a 'legal' citizen of the United States. Yes, this makes you a criminal because a crime means to go against what is legal. This is actually a good thing because instead of being a 'legal' citizen with privileges you are now a 'lawful' citizen with rights. The Battle: Officers are under the presumption that you still within their legal jurisdiction. An example of this is an officer pulls you over for speeding (even though you have no license, registration, or proof of insurance.) He presumes you are breaking a statute (corporate policy) when you are not even an employee to the corporation to whom the statute belongs. You record him and hold him liable for infringing your rights and challenge jurisdiction in court. The rest of this part gets very involved. What I told you is just the tip of the iceberg but I can elaborate. Point of this section is; prepare to get harassed and prepare to fight for your freedom. The upside to this is you can become very wealthy from your rights being abused thanks to the fee schedule I mentioned earlier. This is much appreciated. Much love, friend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54485189 Canada 07/21/2014 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been trying to understand this and I'll post back if I find anything useful.. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias would really like to hear some real-world applicable wisdom about how this works. [link to en.wikipedia.org] If you want to learn things that the PTBB don't want you to know about, start by staying the fuck away from jewapidia. That is all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54485189 Canada 07/21/2014 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been trying to understand this and I'll post back if I find anything useful.. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias would really like to hear some real-world applicable wisdom about how this works. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Start here: [link to www.youtube.com] Jordan Maxwell is more full of shit than he is ugly. Like wow! |