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The parts where Nichole Kidman is butt-ass neked are nice, very meaningful to me...

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Interesting synopsis about Helena in the toy store.

[link to idyllopuspress.com]
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What a load of crap. The whole idea of Helena possibly being abducted is based on three actors in the toy store looking similar to three of the actors at the party at the beginning of the movie.

I would like to ask the writer of that analysis, outside of Bill's friend that gave the party in the beginning of the movie and the prostitute that was in Bill's friend's room at the party, what else would link the party at the beginning of the movie (or more specifically these three extras) to the orgy scene and the supposed sex cult?

The writer of that analysis is assuming that those three people are linked to the orgy and the sex cult, assuming that the three actors are the same people, assuming that he knows that those people were ordered to be there for a purpose by the sex cult, and he's assuming to know why they were ordered to be there.
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The writer was also assuming that the person who looks like the waiter "steps forward and between the parents and the girl", that's simply not on the film. The guy could have stopped parallel to Alice and looked at what was on the shelf. This writer is assuming that this shopper's supposed act of stepping forward "between the parents and the girl" is a sign he's going to kidnap Helena. What? Walking around in a toy shop makes you a suspect of kidnapping?

Plus, there's a huge problem with this theory that's being ignored. The supposed waiter is carrying a big object under his arm. Will he grab Helena with one arm and carry her out of the store without being caught?

I say that's impossible. This stupid theory of Helena being kidnapped is debunked.
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A beauty for all ages with it or without. Agreed.
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It's tough to get an answer out of you. Thanks for your input, you pushed me to see some amazing things about this film.

I think Kubrick may have been laughing at the audience with this film. Laughing at the inability of most humans to distinguish between real good and real evil, laughing at the inability of most humans to distinguish between facts and hearsay, and laughing at the inability of most humans to make a fair judgment.

It is kind of funny when you look at it fairly. Bill and Alice were definitely criminals and Bill was a lying scumbag to boot and yet most of the audience will consider them the 'good guys', it's a common trick that Hollywood uses.

In Hollywood, the 'good guys' are often worse than the 'bad guys', it turns everything on its head.
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I feel I've answered you succinctly enough for a film with such a sketchy resolution as it is.

Kubrick was very fond of the masses wasn't he?

Was anyone not a criminal included? Bill smokes a joint and gets jealous. Thats criminal? Whats he to do? Narc all these parties out? I don't believe you grasp the depth of favor those cradle rockers paid to young Bill. Besides which, he would not have brushed into this world with that kind of attitude. They are quite clever you know.

Your description of Hollywood sounds more like real life than a tinsel town fantasy.

Perhaps Bill is more of a vehicle to examine what exactly is going on with Nicole? Traumaville may be a good place to find the answers to your questions.

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If you are alone in the universe, are we not the judges of what's good and fair ourselves?
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Perhaps Bill is more of a vehicle to examine what exactly is going on with Nicole?
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Are you the original poster of this thread?

It may be as simple as the Nichole Kidman character being named "Alice" and that this was the adult re-telling of "Alice in Wonderland" and we should therefore look at the film from the point of view of Alice and not Bill. That might change things a lot.

As to the rest of your post, I don't know what you're trying to say. I don't see why religious beliefs need to be brought into this discussion.
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You think there are no one's who would walk away from that situation without divorce papers in mind, far from it in fact, and not consider it a draw at the very least???

You have too much faith in Bill perhaps?

But in the end he has to decide that himself doesn't he?
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Tell me, what is "that situation"?

I don't think we know because we don't know what Bill told Alice about his experience. We see Bill tell Alice that he'll explain what happened then the explanation is cut out and there is a cut to a shot of tears in Alice's eyes.

How do we know that Bill told the truth at all?

If we assume that he told the truth, how do we know why Alice is crying?

Since Bill didn't actually commit adultery or do anything really wrong outside of party crashing, what is there for Alice to be so upset about anyway?

Please explain why you'd believe any of that would lead to divorce especially considering the dialogue in the last scene?

My own life, I am quite well aware of the hidden worlds presented in the movie, while Bill is a bit of a newbie and aloof in his discovery of them. He is lucky indeed.

I suppose I'd compare it to skydiving or fighting forest fires. From a distance, I'm a bit indifferent to these as a lifestyle paths. But they exist. Whether I'm a part or not.
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My conclusion is that the whole story is symbolic of what we all go through with temptations to sin and be immoral, everyday. Not only from the 'Illuminati' but from the situations and people around us. I think the party and the cult is just a way to explore that issue. I think the party is irrelevant to the real story being told. Again, I thank the original poster of this thread for leading me down this path of thinking.

Again, you evaded my question, would you answer please?

If the sex in the film from the orgy was actually documentary footage from a real cult, would you call that pornographic?
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Hahaha. I wonder if you're married yet;)

I believe Bill told her the whole story. I think Kidman told him nothing. Would YOU cry if your mate suddenly confessed all this to you?

I'm guessing Bill is quite wealthy and well, if I told my wife this story and she was just like, "OK hunny:)" I'd possibly shit my pants. And that's grounds for divorce itself you know.

So what is the real story morning glory?
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Perhaps Bill is more of a vehicle to examine what exactly is going on with Nicole?
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Are you the original poster of this thread?

It may be as simple as the Nichole Kidman character being named "Alice" and that this was the adult re-telling of "Alice in Wonderland" and we should therefore look at the film from the point of view of Alice and not Bill. That might change things a lot.

As to the rest of your post, I don't know what you're trying to say. I don't see why religious beliefs need to be brought into this discussion.
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No, but I think they sound completely insane.

Wouldn't Bill be Alice then?

Simple.

You're tossing good and evil around.

God believer: they decide
Atheist: we decide

Question for you: which was Stanley???

This is fun. Very fun movie.
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If we assume that he told the truth, how do we know why Alice is crying?
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Why was Alice crying after she heard about the party?

I'll be hoping for some good replies then I'll take a shot at it.
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I'm thinking she is even more ashamed then he is.

Why? I wonder if the missing scenes would shed some light on that?
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Want to send a quick shout out to J.W. here, by the way.

Keep keepin it real man!
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Eyes wide shut is a fantastic movie, very underrated - or rather people totally got the wrong end of the stick with it.

re: the first scene you mentioned in this thread with the 'shapeshifting' woman:

the white haired guy puts his hand on the woman in the dark red dress before the scene cuts....

to nicole kidman walking through the doorway/picking up the champagne glass - when this happens you can see the white haired guy putting his hand on her shoulder.

if kubrick was still 100% dedicated to continuity, why was there a delay in him putting his hand on her?

I've studied kubrick for many decades and noticed several errors in his works that people put down to some conspiracy theory or another. I honestly think this one was a mistake made in post.
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Thanks for answering. We disagree on this but the definition of pornography is controversial, I don't think it matters at all in this case.
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To the people asking for proof of an abduction in the final scene, there is no proof, but there is a bald man and the young waiter from the party scene, and they get between bill , alice, and helena. That's the last you see of her, also around teddy bears, symbol for pedos. That's the theory at least.
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There is no PROOF? There's no evidence! Yes they are surrounded by teddy bears but what would give the impression that the sex cult was pedophiliac in any way? There was ephebophilia in the film apparently with the girl in the costume shop but that didn't relate to the sex cult, at least not as far as we know. And ephebophilia is not pedophilia by any stretch.

"they get between bill , alice, and helena"

Absolutely not! The last thing we see of Helena is at one minute 39 seconds in the clip below. Helena is simply walking towards an isle and no one is between her and her parents.

If the teddy bears represent pedophiles then my interpretation of the symbolism is that Bill and Alice had devolved to the level of depravity of child molesters. That's a possible symbolic meaning I see there.

Another way to view this is that in the last scene where they're talking to each other, you see teddy bears on Bill's side and tigers on Alice's side. This may represent that they had devolved down to an animalistic level. Bill is down to the level of bear and Alice is down to the level of a tiger (so to speak).

That would fit with the last word of the film being "fuck" which is considered to be an animalistic way of having sex whereas Alice does use the term "make love" once to represent a more emotional and meaningful type of sex. I think this interpretation is strengthened by Alice asking Bill, "Did you fuck them" about the two women at the party with the emphasis on the word fuck with it obviously meaning a more animalistic and meaningless type of sex, moving towards devolving down to the animal level.

With all of that said, maybe Helena was being abducted by pedophiles which were her parents who had devolved down to that level now. And when the warning was "dire consequences for you and your family", maybe the dire was consequences was this, the whole family being cursed to becoming devolved beings.


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I gave a link earlier that shows the frames. Two men from the party are there looking at bears. As they walk away Helena follows them. As she follows them the waiter from the party steps between her and her parents. It is fast which is why you have to watch the frames. So it is implied that she is taken. He broke his promise and he and him family will pay for it. That is how powerful these people are. You don't mess with them. Ever.
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Interesting synopsis about Helena in the toy store.

[link to idyllopuspress.com]
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Here is the link with pics of Helena being abducted.
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Ok can you people please explain to me why so many think sex is evil? I for one think it's a very enjoyable activity!

I absolutely understand why hate, violence, murder, theft, kidnapping, treachery and that sort of stuff are evil, but I cannot possibly understand why some would put sex in the same category.

Of course, it's not cool to cheat on your spouse/gf/bf, but if your partner is ok with an open relationship then I don't consider it to be adultery any more, since there is no broken trust. Thoughts?
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No one is really ok with open relationships. They may seem ok but they are not. It hurts our brain believe it or not. Our brain chemicals get messed up when we are in these types of relationships or when we go from one person to another. And if we were meant to have sex with many people we wouldn't have sexually transmitted diseases. Like it or not, we are meant to be monogamous or celibate. We can fight against how we are made but we will be unhealthy for it.
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Yes. Christians believe sex is okay within MARRAIGE.
AND not to be unequally yoked (both saved).

If you think about it, this ties into other comments made by others that if you hang around others that have divolved that could be dangerous to you as well, although worse if you open the doors yourself.

If you are monogamous with someone who also is NOT devolved (married and Christian-is how Christians see it), then you stand a much better chance of NOT becoming an animal.
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Interesting synopsis about Helena in the toy store.

[link to idyllopuspress.com]
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What a load of crap. The whole idea of Helena possibly being abducted is based on three actors in the toy store looking similar to three of the actors at the party at the beginning of the movie.

I would like to ask the writer of that analysis, outside of Bill's friend that gave the party in the beginning of the movie and the prostitute that was in Bill's friend's room at the party, what else would link the party at the beginning of the movie (or more specifically these three extras) to the orgy scene and the supposed sex cult?

The writer of that analysis is assuming that those three people are linked to the orgy and the sex cult, assuming that the three actors are the same people, assuming that he knows that those people were ordered to be there for a purpose by the sex cult, and he's assuming to know why they were ordered to be there.
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The writer was also assuming that the person who looks like the waiter "steps forward and between the parents and the girl", that's simply not on the film. The guy could have stopped parallel to Alice and looked at what was on the shelf. This writer is assuming that this shopper's supposed act of stepping forward "between the parents and the girl" is a sign he's going to kidnap Helena. What? Walking around in a toy shop makes you a suspect of kidnapping?

Plus, there's a huge problem with this theory that's being ignored. The supposed waiter is carrying a big object under his arm. Will he grab Helena with one arm and carry her out of the store without being caught?

I say that's impossible. This stupid theory of Helena being kidnapped is debunked.
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Just because I and others see it differently doesn't make it wrong. I still believe she was taken. Big deal. So unless Kubrick himself says something different then people are going to make their own deductions and no one is right or wrong. You just seemed to be obsessed with the film and get very upset with people who don't see things your way. You really need to chill out.
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Alice says to Bill in the movie's
last line, "You know, there is something very important we need to do as
soon as possible.... Fuck,"


Kundalini rising, tantric sex magic. Research it! It is one of the layers to the story!

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Should we keep digging?

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Two men from the party are there looking at bears.
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Unfounded Assumption. Even the author of that article you linked to admitted that there's no way to know for sure if it's the same actors that were at the party.

And even if bears = pedophiles, pedophiles are different than kidnappers so I don't see the relevance there.

As they walk away Helena follows them.
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Unfounded Assumption. How do you know she wasn't just walking towards the aisle of the store? Claiming she's "following" them makes no sense.

As she follows them the waiter from the party steps between her and her parents.
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Unfounded Assumption. That may be the same actor that played the waiter but that's not certain, even the writer of the article you linked to admits that.

It is fast which is why you have to watch the frames.
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It's true that he steps in between Helena and her parents. And that's evidence of an intent to kidnap? He's carrying a big object under his arm, so he's going to kidnap her one handed and carry her out of the store? No way.

You'll come back probably claiming that there was a conspiracy to kidnap Helena between the three men that look like the men at the party, another huge unfounded assumption that requires many more assumptions with no evidence to back them up.

So it is implied that she is taken.
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Unfounded Assumption. A guy walking around a toy store is evidence of intent to kidnap and that a kidnapping is about to happen?

I can give you a possible explanation of that that actually makes sense to me: The implication could he be that he (or the force he is symbolic of) is going to protect Helena FROM her parents. That would fit with my interpretation of the film.

In order for your interpretation to be correct we have to assume that the waiter from the party was part of the sex cult or was working with them, that he was ordered to go to the toy shop by the sex cult, that he was ordered to kidnap Helena, and that he was able to pull it off successfully with one arm?

He broke his promise and he and him family will pay for it.
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Unfounded Assumption. We don't know what Bill told Alice and even if he told Alice the truth, how would the cult know? Now you're assuming that they bugged Bill's apartment too? And you're assuming that they could take action as quickly as you're saying even if they did know that he told Alice the truth?

You're also assuming that the threat at the orgy was a real threat. What if Bill's friend was telling the truth and the whole thing was fake and therefore the threat was a lie?

That is how powerful these people are.
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Unfounded Assumption. If we assume that the waiter and the other two guys were the same actors at the party in the beginning of the film there is nothing linking them to the sex cult. So, they could have been up to something evil but that may have been unrelated to the sex cult.

You don't mess with them. Ever.
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Unfounded Assumption. You have to assume that Bill's friend was lying when he said that the orgy was a charade in order to believe that.

What if this sex cult was a charade just to play a game with (or test) people like Bill? There's no evidence that was either satanic or Illuminati, it just may have been a weird cult with powerful people that has no power but gives the appearance that they do to play with people. If there were a sequel could we find out that Bill is blackmailed for the rest of his life over this? It's possible, the possibilities are endless.

You could make up an endless number of things to believe about this movie as you have. I'm not obsessed with the film at all but I'm obsessed with understanding why people have beliefs that are based on nothing.
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my take was that Alice was Monarch controlled before she married Bill, and she's bringing him into the circle. He's a doctor after all and he's a prostitute the way he uses his medical knowledge. So he's useful to them.

The navy guy she dances with is her handler, she goes all giggly and whacky when he talks to her. I suspect he's also the priest chanting the ritual.

The orgy shows sex slaves, like actresses, etc. who have no choice but to show up and be used by these people.

It's Satanic, lots of symbolism to show it.
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Why are you given codes, hints and numbers before something happens? It is for your subconscious mind to identify with it but not your conscious. It is the collective unconscious that determins what happens on earth. You are the tools and are part of the game! Who is doing it is not important. What you do to stop it is all that matters!!

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Other than the fact that everyone got to see Nicole Kidman's awesome posterior, it was a boring film actually
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Let's keep it simple - Bill is playing "The Fool" on his road to englightenment and uniting with his Anima. The whole movie is a metaphor for the human psyche. The people in it are not "Illuminati" and are like the archetypes in the psyche but the ideas and philosophy are illuminism-based. And no... "the Illuminati" are not bad at all - people are just too scared for this knowledge, so they demonize it/them (like in the dark middle ages)...
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Interesting synopsis about Helena in the toy store.

[link to idyllopuspress.com]
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What a load of crap. The whole idea of Helena possibly being abducted is based on three actors in the toy store looking similar to three of the actors at the party at the beginning of the movie.

I would like to ask the writer of that analysis, outside of Bill's friend that gave the party in the beginning of the movie and the prostitute that was in Bill's friend's room at the party, what else would link the party at the beginning of the movie (or more specifically these three extras) to the orgy scene and the supposed sex cult?

The writer of that analysis is assuming that those three people are linked to the orgy and the sex cult, assuming that the three actors are the same people, assuming that he knows that those people were ordered to be there for a purpose by the sex cult, and he's assuming to know why they were ordered to be there.
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The writer was also assuming that the person who looks like the waiter "steps forward and between the parents and the girl", that's simply not on the film. The guy could have stopped parallel to Alice and looked at what was on the shelf. This writer is assuming that this shopper's supposed act of stepping forward "between the parents and the girl" is a sign he's going to kidnap Helena. What? Walking around in a toy shop makes you a suspect of kidnapping?

Plus, there's a huge problem with this theory that's being ignored. The supposed waiter is carrying a big object under his arm. Will he grab Helena with one arm and carry her out of the store without being caught?

I say that's impossible. This stupid theory of Helena being kidnapped is debunked.
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Just because I and others see it differently doesn't make it wrong. I still believe she was taken. Big deal. So unless Kubrick himself says something different then people are going to make their own deductions and no one is right or wrong. You just seemed to be obsessed with the film and get very upset with people who don't see things your way. You really need to chill out.
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Wouldn't that just start this whole mess all over again?

Bill knows who they are. He may not be too streetwise, but he's also not a pussy.

They've taken care of 3 of his friends. They would have done him too if they weren't after something else...

His usefulness is not exhausted.

He's fit, looks sharp. He's smart, a doctorate to boot.
And damn... what a hit with the ladies.

Let's tally this up here.

0. Baby sitter comments on how well Nicole looks. No mention on Bill...
1. Holdin down the fort with Nicole against Baron Von Don.
2. Talkin about rainbows with 2 models at party.
3. Revivin naked woman he doesn't even know.
4. Checkin titties like a boss.
5. Bein the man while wife goes batshit.
6. Gettin cougar to cheat & make first move & on a deathbed.
7. Makin punks jealous & just walkin off.
8. Hooker bringin him home for dinner.
9. Teenager.
10. Hoes dying for him.
11. Even Pee Wee is wide open.
12. More hoes.
13. Looks at dead body awkward.
14. Wife still wants to bang.

I'd wager maybe, just maybe they been eyeing Bill for a while now.

Don't think they kidnapped the kid though.

Helena was Constantine's moms name.
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Let's keep it simple - Bill is playing "The Fool" on his road to englightenment and uniting with his Anima. The whole movie is a metaphor for the human psyche. The people in it are not "Illuminati" and are like the archetypes in the psyche but the ideas and philosophy are illuminism-based. And no... "the Illuminati" are not bad at all - people are just too scared for this knowledge, so they demonize it/them (like in the dark middle ages)...
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This is intriguing. Bill certainly played the fool because what happens to the fool in the tarot? With his next step he goes over the cliff so that fits here I think.
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How the ritual scene should have ended

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I'm currently examining film and I just realized that you'd never know this was an esoteric film until the phrase, "Where the rainbow ends" is uttered at about 11 minutes, 50 seconds in. Right when that sentence is spoken there's an obvious change of mood in Tom Cruise like he's rattled. It's like everything up to that point was following his life script (see transactional analysis) and the sentence startled him so much that it was woke him up. He was just unconsciously playing along until that sentence made him realize that was happening was something unusual that he had to pay attention to, it woke him up so to speak.

Outside of Nichole Kidman being nude to start the film and Nichole Kidman sitting on the toilet about a minute later, everything in the movie up to the sentence "Where the rainbow ends", is purely cornball, as cliche as you can get. BTW, I'm watching the unrated version, I don't know how much that matters.

Now, "Where the rainbow ends" is an obvious reference to the Wizard of Oz and immediately after that comment sentence is spoken, the entire tone of the movie changes and it gets weird and creepy immediately.

Right now I'm looking at this film as an adult re-telling of the Wizard of the Oz.
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You are on the right path, they were speaking directly to Bill's Subconscious there. Where the rainbow ends is obviously darkness, but at the same time it's also symbolized as the pot of gold, which could also symbolize greed, gold, ect as darkness.

He woke up briefly there and knew they wanted to have sex with him which would lead him into darkness "where the rainbow ends" as he would of thrown away his daughter and wife for that one moment.

Even though he passed this test by waking up and questioning where that is exactly, he was asking for more truth that his conscious mind could handle at that moment. This is why Ziglers man came to him and took him upstairs to start another series of tests to see how far Bill can be tempted until he breaks.
When Zigler suggested to him that what if everything that happened to him was a kind of test, a charade. Bill rejected this angrily with the question "what kind of fucking charade ends with a woman turning up dead." If Bill was ready to believe the charade he might of been initiated into the security society right there, but his mind is just not ready to believe the true reality he is living in.

At the end it's ironic how Alice tells bill were awake now, when that is actually furthest from the truth, as they lose their daughter as she was abducted. If Bill was awake he would of taken the Red Priests threats to his family seriously and not let her wonder around a crowded Toy Store alone, especially after telling his wife everything breaking the agreement nod he gave the Red Priest.

I believe Kubrick is trying to say these events happen in real life, and was giving us a kind of warning, waking a few of us up so we don't fall down the rabbit hole to far and end up where the rainbow ends.

The actual public is not yet awake enough to realize we are being tested every day and complete strangers we meet could very well be angels and members of a secret society in disguise testing and temping us for whatever reasons.

God works in mysterious ways and we all have a purpose, or the possibility of achieving great tasks. Kubrick might of been hinting that money can not buy everything, and it's intact our actions how we treat each other and our families that buy us into the kingdom of heaven.

Be prepared to pay it forward, give to those in need, sacrifice what you have for the well being of others. If you see a brother or sister in need, give what you can to help them out. Don't over trust strangers, but don't neglect them as well. You never know which angels are watching, there power is second to none.

If you start down this path and start believing, you will be tested just like Bill, and you will be tempted. Keep your faith strong and keep believing. Use the powers of your thoughts to telepathically speak to people and their angels.
Just wishing someone silently "God Bless you" has a powerful effect on both your facial expressions and body language that people will pick up, and they in turn will think more positively of you. God needs angels and powerful intelligent forces like us to spread love and light and push away darkness. The more we open our eyes to this, the better our lives, and the lives of our friends and family will be.

God bless
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The pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is a reference to Jungian shadow work. Kubrick was well-versed in Jungian psychology and The Shining is a testament to that fact.

Essentially the concept is a human being has a persona, ego, shadow, anima/animus, and self (which is the core yet also encompasses all of the above). The shadow, or darkness beyond the edge of consciousness, is everything we have rejected about ourselves. It is an unconscious construct that is responsible for every negative view we hold, what we deem to be evil, and most of all what we fear. That said, there is a pot of gold hidden in the darkness.

Since the shadow contains everything we have rejected within ourselves it is a pretty awful place to examine. Preforming shadow work drudges up the whole spectrum of negative emotion. However, thrown away with all the darkness are some of our greatest gifts. Such gifts have been rejected because they have been tied to one trauma or another.
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