Ive figured out Eyes Wide shut, Stanley Kubrick was a genius, illuminati level genius

I think that Alice was crying because in the past she might have been a participant in the so-called parties. She has nightmares about having sex with all these men whom she didn’t even know – and of course she couldn’t know them, since they all wore masks!

In the first scene of the movie, with Alice undressing and dropping her black dress to the floor, is almost exactly like the beginning of orgy scene, when the women let their black cloaks fall. Her body, seen nude from the back, is practically indistinguishable from the women at the orgy. Is this a hint that she participated in such ‘events’ in the past? How long ago?

It also seems to me that Alice recognized Nick when Bill pointed him out to her. She kept staring at him as she continued to dance with Bill and made some absentminded comment about his playing well for a doctor. As soon as Bill suggested that they walk over to say hello, there was an almost panicked look in her eyes and she told Bill that she desperately needed to use the bathroom. She was certainly in a big hurry to get away. Still, supposedly on her way to the bathroom, she chugged down a glass of champagne, not something that someone in such great need to urinate would be likely to do.

(While she leaves the room where the dancing is, as she goes through the door, there is the very interesting change of the woman with the gray haired man. The woman wears a wine colored dress and has long hair before she goes through the door. When she emerges on the other side, she is wearing a black double-breasted skirt suit and has short hair. In fact, she is not the same woman at all, although she is still with the same grey haired man. I don’t think this is shape shifting – more an indication of duplicity and double lives that we will see several people live from this point in the film.)

Back to Alice and Nick, I think it is likely that she used to participate in parties such as the one that Bill attends later that night, and possibly she remembered Nick playing the piano there. This also explains why, at the Sonata Café, Kubrick would include the seemingly mundane dialogue between Bill and Nick about Bill being married for nine years - to establish a plausible timeframe. Nick dropped out of medical school ten years earlier – maybe he was recruited??? Their paths could have crossed. Was Alice afraid of being recognized by Nick?


I also found it curious, when she was dancing with Szandor, that she made such a big deal about being married. Was her marriage to Bill her way out of that dark world? We are not told how she and Bill met. She doesn’t seem very happy in her marriage, but she and Bill have achieved a certain status, both social and financial and a level of normalcy and respectability in their lives. But she is still clearly traumatized by her past and it haunts her in her nightmares.

And the mask – why did she put it in bed on Bill’s pillow? It would be more logical to ask him about it, if she had accidentally found it. It is an ordinary enough mask. But it clearly means something else to her.

I was intrigued by the suggestion that I read somewhere (I think here, but I don’t remember the name of the thread, sorry) that Alice was still a participant in these parties, and indeed, Bill leaves the apartment after receiving word that one of his patients has died. One may even stretch the argument and suggest that patient was killed (remember the daughter’s shock at her father’s death, saying that he was having a really good day), and, of course, Domino could have easily been planted - all this done to keep Bill away from his apartment. What ruins this theory for me is that Alice calls him from their apartment and wants to know when he’ll be coming home. I think that she is no longer involved in that world, except when it comes back to her in her nightmares.

Go back and watch the scene at Ziglers Party right before Nicole Kidman walks through a doorway and grabs a champaign glass from a waiter. Pay attention to a woman in a dark red dress dancing with a white haired man as Alice tells Bill she has to go to the bathroom. As she walks through the doorway, the woman shape shifts into a completely different woman in a black dress.

If you know anything about Stanley Kubrick, you will know this is not a coincidence.

Kubrick was notorious for shooting hundreds of takes of just a single scene, if something is in there, it's cause Kubrick wanted it in there. It wasn't an extra accident, Kubrick would never allow that.

He obviously wanted shape shifting woman in this movie.

This is just one example of what i'm talking about, I have discovered thousands more!

IF I ever reveal the whole story, trust me I will disappear! This thread is being watched right now, by forces you have no idea how powerful.

I think that Alice was crying because in the past she might have been a participant in the so-called parties. She has nightmares about having sex with all these men whom she didn’t even know – and of course she couldn’t know them, since they all wore masks!

In the first scene of the movie, with Alice undressing and dropping her black dress to the floor, is almost exactly like the beginning of orgy scene, when the women let their black cloaks fall. Her body, seen nude from the back, is practically indistinguishable from the women at the orgy. Is this a hint that she participated in such ‘events’ in the past? How long ago?

It also seems to me that Alice recognized Nick when Bill pointed him out to her. She kept staring at him as she continued to dance with Bill and made some absentminded comment about his playing well for a doctor. As soon as Bill suggested that they walk over to say hello, there was an almost panicked look in her eyes and she told Bill that she desperately needed to use the bathroom. She was certainly in a big hurry to get away. Still, supposedly on her way to the bathroom, she chugged down a glass of champagne, not something that someone in such great need to urinate would be likely to do.

(While she leaves the room where the dancing is, as she goes through the door, there is the very interesting change of the woman with the gray haired man. The woman wears a wine colored dress and has long hair before she goes through the door. When she emerges on the other side, she is wearing a black double-breasted skirt suit and has short hair. In fact, she is not the same woman at all, although she is still with the same grey haired man. I don’t think this is shape shifting – more an indication of duplicity and double lives that we will see several people live from this point in the film.)

Back to Alice and Nick, I think it is likely that she used to participate in parties such as the one that Bill attends later that night, and possibly she remembered Nick playing the piano there. This also explains why, at the Sonata Café, Kubrick would include the seemingly mundane dialogue between Bill and Nick about Bill being married for nine years - to establish a plausible timeframe. Nick dropped out of medical school ten years earlier – maybe he was recruited??? Their paths could have crossed. Was Alice afraid of being recognized by Nick?


I also found it curious, when she was dancing with Szandor, that she made such a big deal about being married. Was her marriage to Bill her way out of that dark world? We are not told how she and Bill met. She doesn’t seem very happy in her marriage, but she and Bill have achieved a certain status, both social and financial and a level of normalcy and respectability in their lives. But she is still clearly traumatized by her past and it haunts her in her nightmares.

And the mask – why did she put it in bed on Bill’s pillow? It would be more logical to ask him about it, if she had accidentally found it. It is an ordinary enough mask. But it clearly means something else to her.

I was intrigued by the suggestion that I read somewhere (I think here, but I don’t remember the name of the thread, sorry) that Alice was still a participant in these parties, and indeed, Bill leaves the apartment after receiving word that one of his patients has died. One may even stretch the argument and suggest that patient was killed (remember the daughter’s shock at her father’s death, saying that he was having a really good day), and, of course, Domino could have easily been planted - all this done to keep Bill away from his apartment. What ruins this theory for me is that Alice calls him from their apartment and wants to know when he’ll be coming home. I think that she is no longer involved in that world, except when it comes back to her in her nightmares.

It's not what most youtube videos or websites say it is. You have to watch it with a fine tooth comb, with an open mind...

Everything you think you believe about the illuminati is wrong, a kind of charade , the whole movie is a fake. Eyes wide shut is a movie where 99.9% will never understand unless they are guided or watch it 100X times as I have frame by frame!

Kubrick completely figured out the illuminati, and he blew the whistle, while predicting his own death, putting it all on Film. This is the work of a great man.

If you think the movie is about a secret society sex cult you are wrong. If you think its only about about marriage and infidelity you are only seeing 0.1% of the story.

The actual story is beautiful. It's a blue print, a modern day bible and guide book for those who are awake enough to read it.

I can help you solve the puzzle, but you have to be ready to walk through the door.

If you believe in shape shifters they are in the movie also

sounds more like wardrobe shifting., not shape shifting!

Kubrick was demonstrating an initiation. From red to black. It's a rite of passage, initiate to initiated. All with the 8 pointed star of Ishtar in the background.

Anyone of you spotted the Eye of Horus on Tom Cruises back yet? This isn't a question of interpretation, this is a blatant confirmation but fleeting signal for those looking closely enough?

The scene starts around 4 mins 55 seconds into the film. The necklace the woman is wearing forms a V triangle into a giant Dark Red Jewel. The woman she shape shifts into is wearing a upside down triangle V Neck Dress, and she is shown in a mirror at the exact moment the shape shift happens...

No one has ever caught this till now, you are welcome. There is way more in this move than meets the eye!

It's not what most youtube videos or websites say it is. You have to watch it with a fine tooth comb, with an open mind...

Everything you think you believe about the illuminati is wrong, a kind of charade , the whole movie is a fake. Eyes wide shut is a movie where 99.9% will never understand unless they are guided or watch it 100X times as I have frame by frame!

Kubrick completely figured out the illuminati, and he blew the whistle, while predicting his own death, putting it all on Film. This is the work of a great man.

If you think the movie is about a secret society sex cult you are wrong. If you think its only about about marriage and infidelity you are only seeing 0.1% of the story.

The actual story is beautiful. It's a blue print, a modern day bible and guide book for those who are awake enough to read it.

I can help you solve the puzzle, but you have to be ready to walk through the door.

If you believe in shape shifters they are in the movie also

Other than the fact that everyone got to see Nicole Kidman's awesome posterior, it was a boring film actually

She did indeed have a magnanimous crap-can.

You're right...everything in the movie is a charade. As is this thread. Keen insight.

[link to vigilantcitizen.com]

whoever writes these vigilant citizen articles is either a genius.....or has been told the meaning of all the symbolism. they are either a genius or an insider but....they are correct. It's pretty indisputable the things he says.

It's not what most youtube videos or websites say it is. You have to watch it with a fine tooth comb, with an open mind...

Everything you think you believe about the illuminati is wrong, a kind of charade , the whole movie is a fake. Eyes wide shut is a movie where 99.9% will never understand unless they are guided or watch it 100X times as I have frame by frame!

Kubrick completely figured out the illuminati, and he blew the whistle, while predicting his own death, putting it all on Film. This is the work of a great man.

If you think the movie is about a secret society sex cult you are wrong. If you think its only about about marriage and infidelity you are only seeing 0.1% of the story.

The actual story is beautiful. It's a blue print, a modern day bible and guide book for those who are awake enough to read it.

I can help you solve the puzzle, but you have to be ready to walk through the door.

If you believe in shape shifters they are in the movie also