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POPE Francis Warns ANY "Personal Relationship with Jesus is Dangerous"

 
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Then did Jesus lie? where is the Church whose foundation is Peter?


There is only one church built literally on the body of Peter to my knowledge and symbolically too

The Catholic Church
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Christ lives as does His assembly forever.
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This is beyond debate

what we are debating I think is that Christ specifically mentions He is going to build ONE CHURCH..HIS CHURCH..on Peter
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What are you a Pharisee ...

Truth is truth, the Roman Catholic Church is

Nothing like the Christ...

If not explain how it is.

hf
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I think the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ founded on Peter.
Like Christ was betrayed so probably at some point this will or has happened to the Church.

As Christ was abandoned when most in need, so I believe many will or are abandoning the Catholic Church,

As Christ was mocked..so I believe the Church is and will be mocked,

As Christ was unjustly tried..so I believe the Church will or is being unjustly Tried,

As Christ was tortured and made to suffer..so I believe the Church is or will be tortured and suffer.

..As Christ was Crucified..so I believe the Church is or will be Crucified...

as Christ resurected after three days ..perfect and all powerful in the spirit..so i believe the Church will overcome all trials and Resurrect made perfect and whole
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or venerating corpses?
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They dont want you to find out about the True Eucharist.

Instead they want to keep giving you Crackers and Grapejuice.
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Mother Mary told me that the only way to go to Heaven is to join the Catholic Church and go through the holy sacraments, i believe what the pope is saying here is the truth and not the devil but at the same time it is very confusing that he did not release the third secret of fatima
I have imaginary friends.
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Who is Pope Francis to Judge anyone? Is He the truth & the light? He has a right to believe in his own truth, just as I have the right to believe in my truth.

I believe that one does NOT have to attend a place of worship & listen to another sinner advise against sin to develop a spiritual connection with Jesus & God, the father.

A personal relationship with Jesus is never dangerous. What was he thinking? How strange that he would believe something like this.
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God Almighty told us these things would come to pass before He returns on earth to establish the Kingdom of God.
The pope and his false church will be judged and destroyed in due time.
The pope has come forth with his false beliefs to the world that their NWO and their false one world religion that,
"Christians who have a personal relationship with God are dangerous" to their short ruled NWO and their false gods.
The pope and the RCC is persecuting all of us who have a personal relationship with our Father, Creator, Lord and Savior YAHshua.
The Word of God Almighty is Holy, Righteous and True in YAHshua Amen!
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Christ lives as does His assembly forever.
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This is beyond debate

what we are debating I think is that Christ specifically mentions He is going to build ONE CHURCH..HIS CHURCH..on Peter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9739208


What are you a Pharisee ...

Truth is truth, the Roman Catholic Church is

Nothing like the Christ...

If not explain how it is.

hf
 Quoting: M1.618


I think the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ founded on Peter.
Like Christ was betrayed so probably at some point this will or has happened to the Church.

As Christ was abandoned when most in need, so I believe many will or are abandoning the Catholic Church,

As Christ was mocked..so I believe the Church is and will be mocked,

As Christ was unjustly tried..so I believe the Church will or is being unjustly Tried,

As Christ was tortured and made to suffer..so I believe the Church is or will be tortured and suffer.

..As Christ was Crucified..so I believe the Church is or will be Crucified...

as Christ resurected after three days ..perfect and all powerful in the spirit..so i believe the Church will overcome all trials and Resurrect made perfect and whole
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when all was finished only three were at the footof that cross everyone else had abandones him out of fear,embarassment to be associated with him who had been so debased in the public eye by such a beating and death

so too when all is finsihed probably few will remain with the church

this is Gods way I believe of selecting the remnant..those that are true and faithful to Him till the end and beyond

He prophesized He would vomit the lukewarm...

and so it begins...
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Because its the 21st century and Religion is dying. They are desperate to regain control of the brainwashed minds of the believer. Gods a lie and we all know it. No christian actually beleives the shit they read. If they did manna would pour from the sky on all those poverty stricken nations
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lol you're an even bigger pompous fool than the pope
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We will not bow before the idols of this world
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you can keep your modernism..we reject it
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Christ lives as does His assembly forever.
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This is beyond debate

what we are debating I think is that Christ specifically mentions He is going to build ONE CHURCH..HIS CHURCH..on Peter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9739208


What are you a Pharisee ...

Truth is truth, the Roman Catholic Church is

Nothing like the Christ...

If not explain how it is.

hf
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I think the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ founded on Peter.
Like Christ was betrayed so probably at some point this will or has happened to the Church.



how is it betrayed the pope sleeps with the evil that are tptb



As Christ was abandoned when most in need, so I believe many will or are abandoning the Catholic Church,


perhaps as it is the time of revelation & the pope is naked



As Christ was mocked..so I believe the Church is and will be mocked,


It is not mocked, it is a bleeding whore posing as a virgin



As Christ was unjustly tried..so I believe the Church will or is being unjustly Tried,


the Christ was unjustly tried & murdered by the church ...


As Christ was tortured and made to suffer..so I believe the Church is or will be tortured and suffer.


In the rich corrupt halls of the Vatican where feast cardinals, bishops & popes


..As Christ was Crucified..so I believe the Church is or will be Crucified...


Penance ... & sado machochism

as Christ resurected after three days ..perfect and all powerful in the spirit..so i believe the Church will overcome all trials and Resurrect made perfect and whole
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wt for unlawful carnal knowledge does that mean?
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Christ lives as does His assembly forever.
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This is beyond debate

what we are debating I think is that Christ specifically mentions He is going to build ONE CHURCH..HIS CHURCH..on Peter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9739208


What are you a Pharisee ...

Truth is truth, the Roman Catholic Church is

Nothing like the Christ...

If not explain how it is.

hf
 Quoting: M1.618


I think the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ founded on Peter.
Like Christ was betrayed so probably at some point this will or has happened to the Church.

As Christ was abandoned when most in need, so I believe many will or are abandoning the Catholic Church,

As Christ was mocked..so I believe the Church is and will be mocked,

As Christ was unjustly tried..so I believe the Church will or is being unjustly Tried,

As Christ was tortured and made to suffer..so I believe the Church is or will be tortured and suffer.

..As Christ was Crucified..so I believe the Church is or will be Crucified...

as Christ resurected after three days ..perfect and all powerful in the spirit..so i believe the Church will overcome all trials and Resurrect made perfect and whole
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you're a blind fool who ignores Christ teachings, he said you shall know a tree by it's fruit, and in this case it produces fruits who molest children.
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This is beyond debate

what we are debating I think is that Christ specifically mentions He is going to build ONE CHURCH..HIS CHURCH..on Peter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9739208


What are you a Pharisee ...

Truth is truth, the Roman Catholic Church is

Nothing like the Christ...

If not explain how it is.

hf
 Quoting: M1.618


I think the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ founded on Peter.
Like Christ was betrayed so probably at some point this will or has happened to the Church.

As Christ was abandoned when most in need, so I believe many will or are abandoning the Catholic Church,

As Christ was mocked..so I believe the Church is and will be mocked,

As Christ was unjustly tried..so I believe the Church will or is being unjustly Tried,

As Christ was tortured and made to suffer..so I believe the Church is or will be tortured and suffer.

..As Christ was Crucified..so I believe the Church is or will be Crucified...

as Christ resurected after three days ..perfect and all powerful in the spirit..so i believe the Church will overcome all trials and Resurrect made perfect and whole
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you're a blind fool who ignores Christ teachings, he said you shall know a tree by it's fruit, and in this case it produces fruits who molest children.
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He said the powers of evil would not prevail against it which I think means they would try
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Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as \"do-it-yourself\" Christians or \"free agents\" when it comes to faith.

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Pope Francis described as \"dangerous\" the temptation to believe that one can have \"a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church.\"


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[link to biblehub.com]

But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Mat 6:6

So, who is right the pope or Jesus Christ ??
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Messenger of Satan - religious bondage - fear and doubt - not of GOD
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Be of good comfort, for his day is expiring. For behold there is a Priestly Host that is to come forth out of God's
Tabernacle who shall be clothed with the fiery breath of the Holy Ghost.

No rumor or noise, as in the
outward, hostile way shall be heard here.

All these spiritual weapons shall be invisibly exercised so as to do
execution upon the violators and oppressors of the Lord's heritage, which do set themselves in battle array for
the maintaining their own kingdom in vanity, pomp and earthly glory.

All which will be scattered by these
powers so strongly bending against them that they themselves shall be amazed and confess there is no
dealing with or standing out against these mighty Hosts of the Lord, with whom is the flaming sword
proceeding out of their mouths (13)

The motto that they bear upon their breast is THE ETERNAL WORD, that
gains the victory by His own blood. Thus, the lifted-up standard shall be mounted up so high as to cast a dread
upon all the armies of the aliens that will run and there from fly."


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Well, he's right. You CAN'T. And nor can he! Anymore than he or anybody else can have a 'personal' relationship with Harry Houdini, George Washington, Thor, Satan, Ahura Mazda, The Buddah, George Carlin, a deceased spouse...
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Jesus is alive, because He lives in me. You dispute scripture, that is your choice. I won't dispute you.

And you cannot dispute, me... that the Holy Ghost and the spirit of Christ risen, lives in those of us who are blessed by His spirit of love, forgiveness, peace and truth.

I am crucified with Christ and yet I live. I live, therefore He lives, in me, every day.

This is truth and I bear witness to it as such. I feel the Holy Ghost and I know it's Christ. peace
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How in any way is the entity known as the Roman Catholic Church like the Christ in common knowledge?
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bump
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What are you a Pharisee ...

Truth is truth, the Roman Catholic Church is

Nothing like the Christ...

If not explain how it is.

hf
 Quoting: M1.618


I think the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ founded on Peter.
Like Christ was betrayed so probably at some point this will or has happened to the Church.

As Christ was abandoned when most in need, so I believe many will or are abandoning the Catholic Church,

As Christ was mocked..so I believe the Church is and will be mocked,

As Christ was unjustly tried..so I believe the Church will or is being unjustly Tried,

As Christ was tortured and made to suffer..so I believe the Church is or will be tortured and suffer.

..As Christ was Crucified..so I believe the Church is or will be Crucified...

as Christ resurected after three days ..perfect and all powerful in the spirit..so i believe the Church will overcome all trials and Resurrect made perfect and whole
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you're a blind fool who ignores Christ teachings, he said you shall know a tree by it's fruit, and in this case it produces fruits who molest children.
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He said the powers of evil would not prevail against it which I think means they would try
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he also said to Peter "get thee behind me Satan".
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Religion is bullshit and Roman Catholic Church is the bull doing all the shifting...rockon
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Mother Mary told me that the only way to go to Heaven is to join the Catholic Church and go through the holy sacraments, i believe what the pope is saying here is the truth and not the devil but at the same time it is very confusing that he did not release the third secret of fatima
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if anything told you something it most certainly wasn't Mary the Jewish virgin who gave birth to the Creator in human form.
No what you saw is the same demon that appeared to those little portuguese kids so long ago.
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For those who believe that Peter was the rock on which Christ's church is built.................you've had the wool pulled over your eyes by those who want to control you. Read the passage for yourself in its FULL context! What you'll find is EXACTLY Opposite what the church teaches. You'll read that Jesus asked the apostle whom the world says He is. They answer! Then He asked 'and who do you say that I am?' Peter answers for the apostles - You are the Christ the Son of the Living God!

It is Jesus answer to this upon which His church is founded and to which the gates of hell shall not prevail...........'Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but My Father in Heaven!' THIS is the rock on which Christ's church is built...............The PERSONAL relationship that the individual has with the Father! NO ONE ELSE can have that personal relationship except the individual and that PERSONAL experience trumps all else including what the clergy try to push down your throat!

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Only antichrist can say that you can contact false christ via antichrist services.
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For those who believe that Peter was the rock on which Christ's church is built.................you've had the wool pulled over your eyes by those who want to control you. Read the passage for yourself in its FULL context! What you'll find is EXACTLY Opposite what the church teaches. You'll read that Jesus asked the apostle whom the world says He is. They answer! Then He asked 'and who do you say that I am?' Peter answers for the apostles - You are the Christ the Son of the Living God!

It is Jesus answer to this upon which His church is founded and to which the gates of hell shall not prevail...........'Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but My Father in Heaven!' THIS is the rock on which Christ's church is built...............The PERSONAL relationship that the individual has with the Father! NO ONE ELSE can have that personal relationship except the individual and that PERSONAL experience trumps all else including what the clergy try to push down your throat!
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For those who believe that Peter was the rock on which Christ's church is built.................you've had the wool pulled over your eyes by those who want to control you. Read the passage for yourself in its FULL context! What you'll find is EXACTLY Opposite what the church teaches. You'll read that Jesus asked the apostle whom the world says He is. They answer! Then He asked 'and who do you say that I am?' Peter answers for the apostles - You are the Christ the Son of the Living God!

It is Jesus answer to this upon which His church is founded and to which the gates of hell shall not prevail...........'Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but My Father in Heaven!' THIS is the rock on which Christ's church is built...............The PERSONAL relationship that the individual has with the Father! NO ONE ELSE can have that personal relationship except the individual and that PERSONAL experience trumps all else including what the clergy try to push down your throat!
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ah you beat me to it, but yes you have nailed it perfectly, the "church" of rome is Satan's carnal interpretation of God's teachings. Much like rome was a kingdome built on war and physical power so was Judeah built on faith and a spiritual relationship with the True and Living God.
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For those who believe that Peter was the rock on which Christ's church is built.................you've had the wool pulled over your eyes by those who want to control you. Read the passage for yourself in its FULL context! What you'll find is EXACTLY Opposite what the church teaches. You'll read that Jesus asked the apostle whom the world says He is. They answer! Then He asked 'and who do you say that I am?' Peter answers for the apostles - You are the Christ the Son of the Living God!

It is Jesus answer to this upon which His church is founded and to which the gates of hell shall not prevail...........'Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but My Father in Heaven!' THIS is the rock on which Christ's church is built...............The PERSONAL relationship that the individual has with the Father! NO ONE ELSE can have that personal relationship except the individual and that PERSONAL experience trumps all else including what the clergy try to push down your throat!
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ah you beat me to it, but yes you have nailed it perfectly, the "church" of rome is Satan's carnal interpretation of God's teachings. Much like rome was a kingdome built on war and physical power so was Judeah built on faith and a spiritual relationship with the True and Living God.
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hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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further:

when Christ said "it is not man that has revealed this to you but the True and Living God" he already answered the deception of the catholic church in that no man would deliver God's message to the human as this is the domain of the Holy Spirit.
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Anyone who claims to have a "personal relationship" with a deity of any kind is delusional and should seek professional help when available.
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Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

...

Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


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"Obviously, he said, it is not always easy to walk the path of faith with other people. "Sometimes it's tiring. It can happen that a brother or sister creates problems for us or scandalizes us, but the Lord entrusted his message of salvation to human beings, to us, to witnesses," he said.
"It is through our brothers and sisters with their gifts and their limits," the pope said, "that he comes to us and makes himself known. This is what belonging to the church means. Remember: Being Christian means belonging to the church. If your first name is Christian, your last name is Member of the Church."
At the end of his talk, the pope asked people to join him in praying that they would never "give into the temptation of thinking you can do without others, without the church, that you can save yourself, of thinking you can be a laboratory Christian.

Christians, he said, are not manufactured in isolation, but belong to a long line of believers who handed on the faith and challenged one another to live it fully."



I totally agree!
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Ditto :)
It is through our brothers and sisters with their gifts and their limits," the pope said, "that he comes to us and makes himself known. This is what belonging to the church means.
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human heart I meant





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