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POPE Francis Warns ANY "Personal Relationship with Jesus is Dangerous"

 
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Interesting has anybody connected Hillary to these statements, she is connected to the pope for somethi g to come, this mirrors quite well her 'to many people think they have a direct line to the divine' quite well. Hillary must be holy like the pope, or maybe the pope is holy like hillary, I don't know. I do know of some remote , but strange none the less connection between the two, and even more strange to find a freak like me connected in equal meaSure. No links to that, true, but relatively seemingly inconsequential for now.
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people trust strange men to their spiritual temple, to do all the spiritual work for them.



Pray for Wisdom directly from Him.
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Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

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Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


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hesright
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Upon the rock, the church was found. Upon the rock, Jesus, the church was founded.

You have to be a stone cold idiot to believe the roman church is the vessel to hold the spirit of God
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This is the difference between Catholics and Protestants. Why is this a surprising statement?
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YES…but the Catholic church compiled the New Testament. They chose what was to be included and excluded from the mystery documents. They transcribed them.

It's still the Catholic bible; Catholic roots, Catholic doctrine for the most part,
Men as leaders, women as servants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23410605


Sorry, incorrect, all the known bishops gathered, those who were "romish" as well as orthodox, Syriac etc, and this also doesn't take into account the Ethiopic canon, or the orthodox(let alone faithful remnant).
Rome has so many problems regarding scripture, ranging from burning the faithful at the stake for owning copies of the bible in other languages to this very day where a mea culpa from the current office holder is not going to fix the pedo problem, because its just the tip of the iceberg, way down in the bowels there are far worse things going on, as enumerated by many witnesses and victims, its just that so many pedo facts have surfaced at once they are trying to allay public confidence issues.
And sorry KK, i like you, but you cant defend the indefensible without becoming part of it, no matter how sincere you are, and that is part of a larger issue where the same people at the top of the pyramid love the ever so useful "idiots" who will defend their inexcusable positions to the death, for to acknowledge the real issues in the mind/heart/soul/spirit of a committed/active follower will destroy not just their world views but also their sanity.
 Quoting: FHLC nli 60004966



From what you say FHLC, I can tell you know little about the Catholic Church in reality, separate to the smear campaign she is suffering in this day and age.
Persecution which I believe comes to you, in origin, courtesy of the freemasons.
I can see it is easy to form the conclusions you do, to buy the lies that make Popes culpable for crimes committed by secular and government people in past times, I have no doubt if you undertook scholarly research, you would find the large number of atrocities you currently believe in, to be much, much smaller.
Not that it excuses them, or any act of pedophilia, but these crimes, which happen in every religion, as well as within families, no more cancel out the whole church, than they cancel out families.
I'm sorry you keep to such a derogatory opinion of the church, and I hope you may one day understand the injustice.
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Christians are not made in a laboratory, but in a community called the church, Pope Francis said.

At his weekly general audience Wednesday, Pope Francis continued his series of audience talks about the church, telling an estimated 33,000 people that there is no such thing as "do-it-yourself" Christians or "free agents" when it comes to faith.

...

Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


[link to www.wucnews.com]
 Quoting: I'm May


epiclol

And anyone who believes this shit is a blind dumb sheep!!!!
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That's actually one of the teachings that really angered the sanhedrine, when he started revealing the truth of God that is in every man, woman and child. Not just Jew or Roman.
 Quoting: HilosPP



He IS in every man, woman and child, and you have your own conscience as your guide too, but more than that, He has acted as a caring and loving father, in not leaving us upto our own devices, but 'writing' out His truth in the Bible and leaving us a haven to come to, the church, where He continues to act as our father.
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He is only in those that are in Him.
Not in every man.
wmMmw
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Well, OF COURSE, he would say that.

God forbid that any Catholic (or anyone) should think for himself or herself, or do anything without the blessing of the church! And if people stopped going to church, how would they get their money?
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That's actually one of the teachings that really angered the sanhedrine, when he started revealing the truth of God that is in every man, woman and child. Not just Jew or Roman.
 Quoting: HilosPP



He IS in every man, woman and child, and you have your own conscience as your guide too, but more than that, He has acted as a caring and loving father, in not leaving us upto our own devices, but 'writing' out His truth in the Bible and leaving us a haven to come to, the church, where He continues to act as our father.
 Quoting: #KK#


He is only in those that are in Him.
Not in every man.
 Quoting: M1.618




Yea, you're right, theologically, I should have said the desire for God is in every human, and all can invite Him in.
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That's actually one of the teachings that really angered the sanhedrine, when he started revealing the truth of God that is in every man, woman and child. Not just Jew or Roman.
 Quoting: HilosPP



He IS in every man, woman and child, and you have your own conscience as your guide too, but more than that, He has acted as a caring and loving father, in not leaving us upto our own devices, but 'writing' out His truth in the Bible and leaving us a haven to come to, the church, where He continues to act as our father.
 Quoting: #KK#


He is only in those that are in Him.
Not in every man.
 Quoting: M1.618




Yea, you're right, theologically, I should have said the desire for God is in every human, and all can invite Him in.
 Quoting: #KK#




Just so there is no confusion.

hf
wmMmw
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He IS in every man, woman and child, and you have your own conscience as your guide too, but more than that, He has acted as a caring and loving father, in not leaving us upto our own devices, but 'writing' out His truth in the Bible and leaving us a haven to come to, the church, where He continues to act as our father.
 Quoting: #KK#


He is only in those that are in Him.
Not in every man.
 Quoting: M1.618




Yea, you're right, theologically, I should have said the desire for God is in every human, and all can invite Him in.
 Quoting: #KK#




Just so there is no confusion.

hf
 Quoting: M1.618



Thanks!


hf
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Remember,the Pope Did invitE People to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ
. CoUId It Be Your MisunderstandinG What He Said?See below and link.

"APOSTOLIC EXHORTATION EVANGELII GAUDIUM OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS
TO THE BISHOPS, CLERGY, CONSECRATED PERSONS AND THE LAY FAITHFUL ON THE PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL IN TODAY’S WORLD"

[link to www.vatican.va]

3. I invite all Christians, everywhere, at this very moment, to a renewed personal encounter with Jesus Christ, or at least an openness to letting him encounter them; I ask all of you to do this unfailingly each day. No one should think that this invitation is not meant for him or her, since “no one is excluded from the joy brought by the Lord”.[1] The Lord does not disappoint those who take this risk; whenever we take a step towards Jesus, we come to realize that he is already there, waiting for us with open arms. Now is the time to say to Jesus: “Lord, I have let myself be deceived; in a thousand ways I have shunned your love, yet here I am once more, to renew my covenant with you. I need you. Save me once again, Lord, take me once more into your redeeming embrace”. How good it feels to come back to him whenever we are lost! Let me say this once more: God never tires of forgiving us; we are the ones who tire of seeking his mercy. Christ, who told us to forgive one another “seventy times seven” (Mt 18:22) has given us his example: he has forgiven us seventy times seven. Time and time again he bears us on his shoulders. No one can strip us of the dignity bestowed upon us by this boundless and unfailing love. With a tenderness which never disappoints, but is always capable of restoring our joy, he makes it possible for us to lift up our heads and to start anew. Let us not flee from the resurrection of Jesus, let us never give up, come what will. May nothing inspire more than his life, which impels us onwards!
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Remember,the Pope Did invitE People to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ
. CoUId It Be Your MisunderstandinG What He Said?See below and link.

"APOSTOLIC EXHORTATION EVANGELII GAUDIUM OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS
TO THE BISHOPS, CLERGY, CONSECRATED PERSONS AND THE LAY FAITHFUL ON THE PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL IN TODAY’S WORLD"

[link to www.vatican.va]

3. I invite all Christians, everywhere, at this very moment, to a renewed personal encounter with Jesus Christ, or at least an openness to letting him encounter them; I ask all of you to do this unfailingly each day. No one should think that this invitation is not meant for him or her, since “no one is excluded from the joy brought by the Lord”.[1] The Lord does not disappoint those who take this risk; whenever we take a step towards Jesus, we come to realize that he is already there, waiting for us with open arms. Now is the time to say to Jesus: “Lord, I have let myself be deceived; in a thousand ways I have shunned your love, yet here I am once more, to renew my covenant with you. I need you. Save me once again, Lord, take me once more into your redeeming embrace”. How good it feels to come back to him whenever we are lost! Let me say this once more: God never tires of forgiving us; we are the ones who tire of seeking his mercy. Christ, who told us to forgive one another “seventy times seven” (Mt 18:22) has given us his example: he has forgiven us seventy times seven. Time and time again he bears us on his shoulders. No one can strip us of the dignity bestowed upon us by this boundless and unfailing love. With a tenderness which never disappoints, but is always capable of restoring our joy, he makes it possible for us to lift up our heads and to start anew. Let us not flee from the resurrection of Jesus, let us never give up, come what will. May nothing inspire more than his life, which impels us onwards!
 Quoting: Dan 46380049


Agreed. I think he wants to get across that a spiritual home is good to have to keep our bearings straight, possibly meet like-minded people, and just to be a home where we can get centered now and then.
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Yea, the "vicar of Christ", NOT. "God on earth", NOT. I wonder what Bible he reads (vulgate?).
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Lol he says look I am a liar oped to Jesus words


King James Bible
Jesus the True Vine
1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. 9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

12This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Greater Love has No One than This
13Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. 15Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. 16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 17These things I command you, that ye love one another.

The Hatred of the World
18If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. 23He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 24If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. 25But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

26But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

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Catholic liars

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