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This following article unfortunately describes one of our brightest research scientists, whom I usually applaud for their works that usually go such a long way to secure our overall health.

Regrettably to the ULTIMATE DEGREE, I cannot agree with Dr Kowaoka's new research.

I condemn it to the highest possible extent.

Not because he hasnt done excellent work, clearly he has, in a similar way that he did with H5N1 last year, however I condemn this previously respected Researcher now for his apparent GOD like self belief in himself and the work environment he conducts his work in.

To do this type of research in a Level2 bio-hazard environment is absolutely no less than COMPLETE RECKLESSNES and so risky to the whole of humanity, he must be condemed to the highest degree.

If anything, this type of research absolutely needs to be conducted in a Level 5 Bio-Hazard environment, which to my best understanding doesent even exist yet.

All we need to do is to look into very recent history to see that even with the very best of intent and the very best of facilities, we have a current situation where there are currently something like 75 individuals who are being monitored for possible exposure to live Anthrax, exposure that happened in a Level 4 Bio-Hazard facility.

Not to mention all those many kilograms of flu vaccine that Baxter Pharmacuticles distributed that were contaminated with live H5N1, and for which they have never been required to answer for.

They came to within a micron of bringing about a world wide H5N1 Pandemic and no investigation was ever conducted to establish how that mistake could have occured.

It was clear then and it remains clear that the Baxter incident was a deliberate attempt to trigger a pandemic.

I am afraid that this particular Scientist/ Researcher has very unmistakenly and clearly CROSSED THE LINE and has now placed himself very much in line with any other MAD scientist.

He is no less than a pathologic megalomaniac and he needs to be shut down immediately.

He has no Judgemnt and no sense of responsibility, but He must have one hell of an ego to do what he thought was ok to do.

And that is a good place to start when describing someone with a very serious personality dissorder.

His work needs to never see the light of day, and this type of research MUST NEVER be permitted to commence without the highest level of daily and constant oversight and only then in a Bio-Lab specifically designed for one at a time research of this nature.

Unfortunately, this researcher has apparently become so arrogant and SELF assured that he can no longer even appreciate the responsibilities, checks and balances and complete with massinve oversight that must be essential in this type of research.

Regrettably, the professor should be banned from doing all research work from now on, and perhaps confined and consigned to a professional life of teaching, under supervision, where hopefully he might be of value.

At present he is a LOOSE CANON and his knowledge IS unnacceptable to the entire human race.

He came close to crossing the line with his H5N1 research, this time he SO far over the line there is a possibility that he might actually circum-navigate the entire world where it can be hoped he might permanently dissapear up his own backside.

No apolagies for these comments.

How dare he risk My or ANYONE elses lives.

arkay.

A controversial scientist who carried out provocative research on making influenza viruses more infectious has completed his most dangerous experiment to date by deliberately creating a pandemic strain of flu that can evade the human immune system.

Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison has genetically manipulated the 2009 strain of pandemic flu in order for it to “escape” the control of the immune system’s neutralising antibodies, effectively making the human population defenceless against its reemergence.


Break...

The work was carried out at Wisconsin University’s $12m (£7.5m) Institute for Influenza Virus Research in Madison which was built specifically to house Professor Kawaoka’s laboratory, which has a level-3-agriculture category of biosafety: one below the top safety level for the most dangerous pathogens, such as Ebola virus.

However, this study was done at the lower level-2 biosafety.


Link here...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]

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Please indulge me a little here and let me explain my very severe reaction to this abominal research.

To engage in this type of work in a Level 2 Bio-Hazard Lab is so absolutely comtemptuos and culpably reckless for the safety of the entire worlds population, it defies comprehension.

That is why there are Level 4 Boi-Hazard facilities.

To engage in this type of work the way he has very clearly demonstrates that this researcher has NO concern for anything other than his perceived belief in himself and the acolades he yearns for, and with total dissregard to any other consideration.

And that is by definition the workings of a certifiable MEGLOMANIAC.

This individual has demonstrated beyond any doubt that he cannot be trusted in any sense.

He has demonstrated a clinically diagnosable level of innapropriate judgement.

His demonstrated irresponsibility and nothing short of total and complete reckleclessnes and complete contempt for the very research he would claim to be attempting to help the people of the world with.

Yet he risks all the people of the world; that is irrational.

This is a clear demonstration of his confused and compromised ability to comprehend and prioritise Risk over Benefit.

He clearly demonstrates a severe defect in his cognative abilities.

NO LESS and probably much much worse.

He is an unequivical danger and total risk to all of society needing to be immediately assesed for his mental condition.

He would NEVER pass such an exam, that is a certainty.

arkay.
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Please indulge me again so that I can explain what this idiot really is..

He is the MOST DANGEROUS man on this planet, today
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Please indulge me again so that I can explain what this idiot really is..

He is the MOST DANGEROUS man on this planet, today
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He's the guy we talked about in the other threads about it.
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I honestly and with complete senserity believe that because of the manner and the risk that this mad scientists work represents.

He has committed.

A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

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Humm, Good points. Always think about the Mad scientists...seem he may be becoming one. Some is speculation though, but still is creepy that it is being down at a college with a low Bio-hazard level for the activities being done.
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One can only hope that all readers from the United States take the time to contact both the CDC and Wisconsin University's Chancellor, to both condemn this idiot and his work and demand that both his work be confiscated and destroyed, it isnt needed, and his tenure and his funding there be terminated immediatley.

After which he obviously requires 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

He has gone too far and he has far too much knowledge to just be left to freely roam.
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This has been going on some time now and its not just one researcher its a lot and a lot of big shots are funding them.

Thread: Kobe University lab creates 'novel' H5N1 in 'secret' lab
You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system
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>>>> Fixed this for ya - to highlight a clue for detectives

Barack Obama has NO concern for anything other than his perceived belief in himself and the acolades he yearns for, and with total dissregard to any other consideration.

And that is by definition the workings of a certifiable MEGLOMANIAC.

This individual has demonstrated beyond any doubt that he cannot be trusted in any sense.

He has demonstrated a clinically diagnosable level of innapropriate judgement.

His demonstrated irresponsibility and nothing short of total and complete reckleclessnes and complete contempt for the very research he would claim to be attempting to help the people of the world with.

Yet he risks all the people of the world; that is irrational.

This is a clear demonstration of his confused and compromised ability to comprehend and prioritise Risk over Benefit.

He clearly demonstrates a severe defect in his cognative abilities.

NO LESS and probably much much worse.

He is an unequivical danger and total risk to all of society needing to be immediately assesed for his mental condition.

He would NEVER pass such an exam, that is a certainty.

arkay.
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God forbid, let's hope he doesn't pull the ultimate mad scientist move and release his creation to watch it work in all its glory.

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This man was anti-human from the day he was born.

Nature is being killed off and replaced with Satans pixels.
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WTF is "Meglamaniac" hahahahahahahaha!!!!
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Good job OP!!

Have tried to get people's attention on this, but there was no interest. Adding link to consolidate info. Thanks OP!!

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WTF is "Meglamaniac" hahahahahahahaha!!!!
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yesterdays news

Thread: American scientist recreates H1N1 but makes it resistant to human immune system
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The mistake your making is thinking this is absolute complete and total incompetence when in fact the guy intends to unleash this on the entire worlds population while inoculating himself against it.
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Perhaps, however perhaps also it should be EVERYDAYS news for a while, just to give everyone a good chance to contemplate the extent that this horror represents.
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Let's relax a wee bit:

How scared should we be of lab-created flu outbreaks?

[link to www.newscientist.com]
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One can only hope that all readers from the United States take the time to contact both the CDC and Wisconsin University's Chancellor, to both condemn this idiot and his work and demand that both his work be confiscated and destroyed, it isnt needed, and his tenure and his funding there be terminated immediatley.

After which he obviously requires 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

He has gone too far and he has far too much knowledge to just be left to freely roam.
 Quoting: arkay

You are pushing him to join ISIS.
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Laying the groundwork for future depopulation plans...

Eventually, someone who views the human race as a terrestrial plague is going to use it or some variant to carry out what they believe is their "moral duty".
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This following article unfortunately describes one of our brightest research scientists, whom I usually applaud for their works that usually go such a long way to secure our overall health.

Regrettably to the ULTIMATE DEGREE, I cannot agree with Dr Kowaoka's new research.

I condemn it to the highest possible extent.

Not because he hasnt done excellent work, clearly he has, in a similar way that he did with H5N1 last year, however I condemn this previously respected Researcher now for his apparent GOD like self belief in himself and the work environment he conducts his work in.

To do this type of research in a Level2 bio-hazard environment is absolutely no less than COMPLETE RECKLESSNES and so risky to the whole of humanity, he must be condemed to the highest degree.

If anything, this type of research absolutely needs to be conducted in a Level 5 Bio-Hazard environment, which to my best understanding doesent even exist yet.

All we need to do is to look into very recent history to see that even with the very best of intent and the very best of facilities, we have a current situation where there are currently something like 75 individuals who are being monitored for possible exposure to live Anthrax, exposure that happened in a Level 4 Bio-Hazard facility.

Not to mention all those many kilograms of flu vaccine that Baxter Pharmacuticles distributed that were contaminated with live H5N1, and for which they have never been required to answer for.

They came to within a micron of bringing about a world wide H5N1 Pandemic and no investigation was ever conducted to establish how that mistake could have occured.

It was clear then and it remains clear that the Baxter incident was a deliberate attempt to trigger a pandemic.

I am afraid that this particular Scientist/ Researcher has very unmistakenly and clearly CROSSED THE LINE and has now placed himself very much in line with any other MAD scientist.

He is no less than a pathologic meglomaniac and he needs to be shut down immediately.

He has no Judgemnt and no sense of responsibility, but He must have one hell of an ego to do what he thought was ok to do.

And that is a good place to start when describing someone with a very serious personality dissorder.

His work needs to never see the light of day, and this type of research MUST NEVER be permitted to commence without the highest level of daily and constant oversight and only then in a Bio-Lab specifically designed for one at a time research of this nature.

Unfortunately, this researcher has apparently become so arrogant and SELF assured that he can no longer even appreciate the responsibilities, checks and balances and complete with massinve oversight that must be essential in this type of research.

Regrettably, the professor should be banned from doing all research work from now on, and perhaps confined and consigned to a professional life of teaching, under supervision, where hopefully he might be of value.

At present he is a LOOSE CANON and his knowledge IS unnacceptable to the entire human race.

He came close to crossing the line with his H5N1 research, this time he SO far over the line there is a possibility that he might actually circum-navigate the entire world where it can be hoped he might permanently dissapear up his own backside.

No apolagies for these comments.

How dare he risk My or ANYONE elses lives.

arkay.

A controversial scientist who carried out provocative research on making influenza viruses more infectious has completed his most dangerous experiment to date by deliberately creating a pandemic strain of flu that can evade the human immune system.

Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison has genetically manipulated the 2009 strain of pandemic flu in order for it to “escape” the control of the immune system’s neutralising antibodies, effectively making the human population defenceless against its reemergence.


Break...

The work was carried out at Wisconsin University’s $12m (£7.5m) Institute for Influenza Virus Research in Madison which was built specifically to house Professor Kawaoka’s laboratory, which has a level-3-agriculture category of biosafety: one below the top safety level for the most dangerous pathogens, such as Ebola virus.

However, this study was done at the lower level-2 biosafety.


Link here...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: arkay


I agree with you except that he should not conduct this work at all no matter where he does it. what good can come out of it? none. what bad can come ftom it? too much. why did they fund this insanity?
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One can only hope that all readers from the United States take the time to contact both the CDC and Wisconsin University's Chancellor, to both condemn this idiot and his work and demand that both his work be confiscated and destroyed, it isnt needed, and his tenure and his funding there be terminated immediatley.

After which he obviously requires 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

He has gone too far and he has far too much knowledge to just be left to freely roam.
 Quoting: arkay

You are pushing him to join ISIS.
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I recognised that posssibility when I made the comment that his passport should be confiscated and that he would require 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

A persons so completely emmersed in heir own self importance and with personality dissorders of the type attributed to this mad man could easily be anticipated that he could turn rouge in a flash, after all he has already clearly demonstrated a pretty serious dissconnection with rational thinking and normal socialogical restraint that all normal people posses.

This is why I also said that he is THE most dangerous man alive today.
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One can only hope that all readers from the United States take the time to contact both the CDC and Wisconsin University's Chancellor, to both condemn this idiot and his work and demand that both his work be confiscated and destroyed, it isnt needed, and his tenure and his funding there be terminated immediatley.

After which he obviously requires 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

He has gone too far and he has far too much knowledge to just be left to freely roam.
 Quoting: arkay

You are pushing him to join ISIS.
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I recognised that posssibility when I made the comment that his passport should be confiscated and that he would require 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

A persons so completely emmersed in heir own self importance and with personality dissorders of the type attributed to this mad man could easily be anticipated that he could turn rouge in a flash, after all he has already clearly demonstrated a pretty serious dissconnection with rational thinking and normal socialogical restraint that all normal people posses.

This is why I also said that he is THE most dangerous man alive today.
 Quoting: arkay

I don't think so.

First of all, many of you view his work through paranoia point of view. Your perception of his work may not be as accurate as you think it would. Remember the Dunning Kruger effect, most people tend to be affected by it. Up there, there's a response that gave link to newscientist ( [link to www.newscientist.com] ). The explanation there is not as scary as most of you think it is. Considering most of your (or GLPers) prediction almost 101% fail, I would doubt your thought about this topic is somewhat accurate.

Secondly, using your common sense, if these so called illuminati or whatever crap they are, want to depopulate the world, would they announce their plain publicly? Would Hitler tell his enemy his plan of assault? Would you, if you put yourself in the illuminati shoe?
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One can only hope that all readers from the United States take the time to contact both the CDC and Wisconsin University's Chancellor, to both condemn this idiot and his work and demand that both his work be confiscated and destroyed, it isnt needed, and his tenure and his funding there be terminated immediatley.

After which he obviously requires 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

He has gone too far and he has far too much knowledge to just be left to freely roam.
 Quoting: arkay

You are pushing him to join ISIS.
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I recognised that posssibility when I made the comment that his passport should be confiscated and that he would require 24 hour strict and formal supervision.

A persons so completely emmersed in heir own self importance and with personality dissorders of the type attributed to this mad man could easily be anticipated that he could turn rouge in a flash, after all he has already clearly demonstrated a pretty serious dissconnection with rational thinking and normal socialogical restraint that all normal people posses.

This is why I also said that he is THE most dangerous man alive today.
 Quoting: arkay

I don't think so.

First of all, many of you view his work through paranoia point of view. Your perception of his work may not be as accurate as you think it would. Remember the Dunning Kruger effect, most people tend to be affected by it. Up there, there's a response that gave link to newscientist ( [link to www.newscientist.com] ). The explanation there is not as scary as most of you think it is. Considering most of your (or GLPers) prediction almost 101% fail, I would doubt your thought about this topic is somewhat accurate.

Secondly, using your common sense, if these so called illuminati or whatever crap they are, want to depopulate the world, would they announce their plain publicly? Would Hitler tell his enemy his plan of assault? Would you, if you put yourself in the illuminati shoe?
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I don't think so.

First of all, many of you view his work through paranoia point of view. Your perception of his work may not be as accurate as you think it would.


I respect your viewpoint, however...

All of my commentary was never about the value of this type of research, we need that.

It was all about the completely irresponsible and reckless way that it was conducted.

I could do pretty much the same in my longe room, a level 2 Bio-Lab really isnt all that far removed in terms of doing that research, however, if the minutest slip or mistake HAD occurred, as is any risk associated with human activities, then there was never going to be any hope of containment, let alone even being to rely on correct protocols of control to account for each and every specimen, as I said, THAT was and is the issue, and this idiot has demonstrated his complete contempt towards safety protocols and all the checks and balances that Bio-Labs actually have in place to ensure physical accounting of materials and audit trails along with complete documentation before any new stage is approached.

It is a scientific method.

That is really the only correct scientific structure that must be adhered to in order to not just provide the required safety checks and balances, but it also forms the basis on which experiments can and must be duplicated in order to prove their validity, before they can then move forward to provide the real value that they attempt to be undertaken for.

You just dont do these type of experiments for the hell of it, just to prove that you can produce a given result, you do them so that once you have a verifiable result, it then serves the primary purpose and that is discovery to protect against such a bug should it natually mutate and begin to impact on humanity.

Oh BTW, just for the record, I didnt view this form a perspective of paranoia, I viewed it from a medical perspective from which I do have qualifications and also on the grounds of personal professional experience.

And, just as a matter of comment, I had cause to visit my local GP today, he knows of my interest in viral matters and real time ongoing emerging threats.

He had heard a little on this specific and HE wanted me to tell him all about what I knew.

Incidentally, his apinion was in complete agreement with my position.

That the professor is a dangerous mad man who should be condemed to the highest degree for his reckless and irresponsible practices.

Take that for what its worth, as I said, we will all have opinions of varying degrees.

Mine is simple.

Dont threaten my life without my knowledge or consent.

arkay
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Im curious to know if anyone has heard any more news in MSM about this matter.

Especially if any formal actions that might be in the pipes about dealing with this dangerous persons work ethics.

Anyone?





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