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UPDATE !! NOW reported: the MOTHER did an INTERNET SEARCH on how long it takes for a child to die in a HOT CAR !!!!! Page 5 .

 
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I want to believe in a just creator and that everything happens for a reason, but stories like this make me angry and sad beyond my ability to contain my emotional response. I know it's not on me to judge my creators intent, but why is it the innocent who suffer the most and why do the guilty so often escape justice?

I can't imagine anyone coming to the conclusion that killing a little baby is an option for any reason. Occurrences like this have left me with the conclusion that human beings are evil by nature and regardless of pretense, most do what serves their own interests without consideration of right and wrong. The only thing they consider is whether or not they think they can get away with it

I'm not eager to rush to judgement on this one, I've seen people framed and never exonerated because the criminal justice system (and people in general) are corrupted beyond belief. Could the man have forgotten the little boy? Not likely. But maybe someone wants him out o0f the way.

I hope the little guy didn't suffer whatever happened, and I implore the creator to comfort him in his spiritual ascension.
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I want to believe in a just creator and that everything happens for a reason, but stories like this make me angry and sad beyond my ability to contain my emotional response. I know it's not on me to judge my creators intent, but why is it the innocent who suffer the most and why do the guilty so often escape justice?

I can't imagine anyone coming to the conclusion that killing a little baby is an option for any reason. Occurrences like this have left me with the conclusion that human beings are evil by nature and regardless of pretense, most do what serves their own interests without consideration of right and wrong. The only thing they consider is whether or not they think they can get away with it

I'm not eager to rush to judgement on this one, I've seen people framed and never exonerated because the criminal justice system (and people in general) are corrupted beyond belief. Could the man have forgotten the little boy? Not likely. But maybe someone wants him out o0f the way.

I hope the little guy didn't suffer whatever happened, and I implore the creator to comfort him in his spiritual ascension.
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I know a man is not supposed to cry and I have never been brought to tears over fear or pain, not even as a child. But stories like this are too common and I find my empathetic emotions overwhelming. Like maybe I will just beat the next fucker I see abusing a baby senseless, or maybe even worst. And then you know i would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, because I did the right thing!
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I haven't read every post in this thread and this may already be posted, but as many of you know by now, the police took the computer from the house and found that somebody had done an internet search for how long it takes for an animal to die in a hot car.

Somebody please get a rope and find a tall tree and I'll help hoist the rope. A Texas Rope Dance is very much in order here.


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I haven't read every post in this thread and this may already be posted, but as many of you know by now, the police took the computer from the house and found that somebody had done an internet search for how long it takes for an animal to die in a hot car.

Somebody please get a rope and find a tall tree and I'll help hoist the rope. A Texas Rope Dance is very much in order here.


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Yes, that is an especially horrific & incriminating portion of this whole terrible story. Waiting for them to determine a motive!
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Flashback-how to hide the fact that you have murdered your child. Say they were kidnapped, enjoy all the sympathy:


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Kynande's mother, Vartasha "Tasha" McCullough (sometimes referred to as Vartasha White or Vartasha McCullough White) said she last saw her daughter at a K-Mart store at 5:00 p.m. on September 29, 2002. They resided in Conway, South Carolina and were visiting Kynande's uncle in Whiteville, North Carolina that day. At first McCullough claimed Kynande disappeared in an aisle of the store, but she later changed her story and said she walked into the store and thought Kynande was behind her, but turned around and the child was gone.
Nobody remembered seeing the child with her mother in K-Mart that day, and video surveillance images of the establishment do not show any images of Kynande. Investigators claim that there is no evidence that she was even in the state at the time. No one other than Kynande's parents saw her in the two days before she was reported missing.


Cleaning the blood splattered house with bleach and tossing out all the kid's stuff before they vanish ruined that one.
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Police: Cobb toddler’s death ‘not simple negligence’

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

The autopsy conducted on the 22-month-old left inside an SUV for seven hours determined the manner of death was a homicide, Cobb County police said late Wednesday afternoon. The boy’s death was not simple negligence, the police chief said.

“The Cobb County Medical Examiner’s Office is waiting for toxicology test results before making an official ruling as to the cause and manner of death,” police said in a written statement. “However, the Cobb County Medical Examiner believes the cause of death is consistent with hyperthermia and the investigative information suggests the manner of death is homicide.”

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I asked this question earlier in the thread: Why did the Daycare NOT CALL the parents asking WHY Cooper did not show up that morning. It seems to me that a simple phone call may have saved his life.

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I asked this question earlier in the thread: Why did the Daycare NOT CALL the parents asking WHY Cooper did not show up that morning. It seems to me that a simple phone call may have saved his life.

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If "Dad" called to let the daycare know the child would not be in I would hate to be the person doing his autopsy after they get all the teeny tiny bits up from the first time that man is let into general population.
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I asked this question earlier in the thread: Why did the Daycare NOT CALL the parents asking WHY Cooper did not show up that morning. It seems to me that a simple phone call may have saved his life.

verysad
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If "Dad" called to let the daycare know the child would not be in I would hate to be the person doing his autopsy after they get all the teeny tiny bits up from the first time that man is let into general population.
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Thats what I am struggling to understand. Wouldnt a call to the Daycare saying Cooper was ill or something be incredibly incriminating. I am surprised the news networks havent asked this question yet. Maybe it WAS a 'revenge' crime and Harris doesnt care what happens to him now. He got the outcome he sought: to inflict maximum pain on his wife.
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Reported a friend if the family made a remark about they were having problems getting pregnant. Just a thought, maybe he found out he's not the biological father.
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Reported a friend if the family made a remark about they were having problems getting pregnant. Just a thought, maybe he found out he's not the biological father.
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Thats a really important 'snippet' you found! Good catch! Fits my 'revenge' theory. I am at the lake for a few days, so thank you for keeping the thread fresh. :))


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sickening.
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Yes, so upsetting :((


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Reported a friend if the family made a remark about they were having problems getting pregnant. Just a thought, maybe he found out he's not the biological father.
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Thats a really important 'snippet' you found! Good catch! Fits my 'revenge' theory. I am at the lake for a few days, so thank you for keeping the thread fresh. :))


hf
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bump I think you're right about revenge.
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sickening.
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Yes, so upsetting :((


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I read that the dad was a web designer. Anybody who works in IT in any way knows the police could see on his computer that he did a web search for how long it takes for an animal to die in a hot car. This guy wanted to get caught.

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Hi!!

I just read a CNN update on their website. Something stood out in the story. I cannot provide links as I am at the lake: the 'wife' of Harris stated that she stands with her husband and is 'absolutely not angry with him'. The article also stated that they are members of the 'Church of Christ', and the wife also stated that "he is the 'leader' of our family; and I know that if/when we have more children he will be a great father".
This is when I recalled that this particular denomination are firm believers in 'corporal punishment', and I remembered that a father in my community was charged with child abuse for using extreme punishments to 'correct' his children and the wife said the exact same thing re: her husband after he was charged. Weird!! So I just researched: 'Church of Christ child abuse charges' on Google and found instances of the same behavior, wherein the wife stated that it brought 'honor to God' to stand by her husband who had been charged with child abuse for 'correcting' his children'.
My mind went 'hmmmmm'; she (Mrs. Harris) may believe that she is bringing honor to God by standing by her husband. In this case she may have knowledge of her husbands 'disciplinary practises' with respect to their now deceased child and that is why the authorities are also investigating her!!

What if the fathers' discipline resulted in Cooper being harmed/bruised so he attempted to hide the fact by not taking him to Daycare that day as both he and his wife were frightened that Child Services would remove their son from their home! This would explain his 'searches' on the internet re: how long can an animal survive in a hot car; and, why the Daycare didnt call either parent to inquire why Cooper didnt show up, because BOTH parents knew that Cooper would not be attending, and phoned and told the Daycare as much! Lets wait & see where this theory goes.........
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Mary and Matthew Winkler..Church of Christ
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Hi!!

I just read a CNN update on their website. Something stood out in the story. I cannot provide links as I am at the lake: the 'wife' of Harris stated that she stands with her husband and is 'absolutely not angry with him'. The article also stated that they are members of the 'Church of Christ', and the wife also stated that "he is the 'leader' of our family; and I know that if/when we have more children he will be a great father".
This is when I recalled that this particular denomination are firm believers in 'corporal punishment', and I remembered that a father in my community was charged with child abuse for using extreme punishments to 'correct' his children and the wife said the exact same thing re: her husband after he was charged. Weird!! So I just researched: 'Church of Christ child abuse charges' on Google and found instances of the same behavior, wherein the wife stated that it brought 'honor to God' to stand by her husband who had been charged with child abuse for 'correcting' his children'.
My mind went 'hmmmmm'; she (Mrs. Harris) may believe that she is bringing honor to God by standing by her husband. In this case she may have knowledge of her husbands 'disciplinary practises' with respect to their now deceased child and that is why the authorities are also investigating her!!

What if the fathers' discipline resulted in Cooper being harmed/bruised so he attempted to hide the fact by not taking him to Daycare that day as both he and his wife were frightened that Child Services would remove their son from their home! This would explain his 'searches' on the internet re: how long can an animal survive in a hot car; and, why the Daycare didnt call either parent to inquire why Cooper didnt show up, because BOTH parents knew that Cooper would not be attending, and phoned and told the Daycare as much! Lets wait & see where this theory goes.........

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Continuing with the above 'train of thought': IF the parents were trying to 'cover' abuse, could both of them be so foolish as to take such a HUGE risk like that with a beloved child? People generally act out of FEAR. What were they so afraid of?? Cooper was still alive in the restaurant where he & his Dad had breakfast, so it wasnt a case of trying to cover up a 'deadly accident. If they were trying to cover abuse wouldnt one of them simply stay home from work. Much safer & easier.
The motive eludes me. She is publicly stating her staunch support for her husband so I do not think it is revenge now.
The motive is not apparent at this point, but I still think that 'last' breakfast together is significant. Again, like the father KNEW he wouldnt be seeing Cooper again; but what could possibly have motivated such a vile crime??
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sickening.
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Yes, so upsetting :((


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I read that the dad was a web designer. Anybody who works in IT in any way knows the police could see on his computer that he did a web search for how long it takes for an animal to die in a hot car. This guy wanted to get caught.
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Or... IT'S NOT REAL!
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Hi!!

I just read a CNN update on their website. Something stood out in the story. I cannot provide links as I am at the lake: the 'wife' of Harris stated that she stands with her husband and is 'absolutely not angry with him'. The article also stated that they are members of the 'Church of Christ', and the wife also stated that "he is the 'leader' of our family; and I know that if/when we have more children he will be a great father".
This is when I recalled that this particular denomination are firm believers in 'corporal punishment', and I remembered that a father in my community was charged with child abuse for using extreme punishments to 'correct' his children and the wife said the exact same thing re: her husband after he was charged. Weird!! So I just researched: 'Church of Christ child abuse charges' on Google and found instances of the same behavior, wherein the wife stated that it brought 'honor to God' to stand by her husband who had been charged with child abuse for 'correcting' his children'.
My mind went 'hmmmmm'; she (Mrs. Harris) may believe that she is bringing honor to God by standing by her husband. In this case she may have knowledge of her husbands 'disciplinary practises' with respect to their now deceased child and that is why the authorities are also investigating her!!

What if the fathers' discipline resulted in Cooper being harmed/bruised so he attempted to hide the fact by not taking him to Daycare that day as both he and his wife were frightened that Child Services would remove their son from their home! This would explain his 'searches' on the internet re: how long can an animal survive in a hot car; and, why the Daycare didnt call either parent to inquire why Cooper didnt show up, because BOTH parents knew that Cooper would not be attending, and phoned and told the Daycare as much! Lets wait & see where this theory goes.........

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Continuing with the above 'train of thought': IF the parents were trying to 'cover' abuse, could both of them be so foolish as to take such a HUGE risk like that with a beloved child? People generally act out of FEAR. What were they so afraid of?? Cooper was still alive in the restaurant where he & his Dad had breakfast, so it wasnt a case of trying to cover up a 'deadly accident. If they were trying to cover abuse wouldnt one of them simply stay home from work. Much safer & easier.
The motive eludes me. She is publicly stating her staunch support for her husband so I do not think it is revenge now.
The motive is not apparent at this point, but I still think that 'last' breakfast together is significant. Again, like the father KNEW he wouldnt be seeing Cooper again; but what could possibly have motivated such a vile crime??
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Sorry, I took so long to write the above post the system kicked me out and then posted as an A/C, lol
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sickening.
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Yes, so upsetting :((


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I read that the dad was a web designer. Anybody who works in IT in any way knows the police could see on his computer that he did a web search for how long it takes for an animal to die in a hot car. This guy wanted to get caught.
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Yes, true! He would have thought of that. Just makes my head ache trying to figure this guy out.
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Someone needs to lock his sorry ass in a hot car,
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Someone needs to lock his sorry ass in a hot car,
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Can't argue with that. I am not a person to seek judgement; but justice is a requirement for a healthy & balanced society. Reduces vigilantism.
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Hi!!

I just read a CNN update on their website. Something stood out in the story. I cannot provide links as I am at the lake: the 'wife' of Harris stated that she stands with her husband and is 'absolutely not angry with him'. The article also stated that they are members of the 'Church of Christ', and the wife also stated that "he is the 'leader' of our family; and I know that if/when we have more children he will be a great father".
This is when I recalled that this particular denomination are firm believers in 'corporal punishment', and I remembered that a father in my community was charged with child abuse for using extreme punishments to 'correct' his children and the wife said the exact same thing re: her husband after he was charged. Weird!! So I just researched: 'Church of Christ child abuse charges' on Google and found instances of the same behavior, wherein the wife stated that it brought 'honor to God' to stand by her husband who had been charged with child abuse for 'correcting' his children'.
My mind went 'hmmmmm'; she (Mrs. Harris) may believe that she is bringing honor to God by standing by her husband. In this case she may have knowledge of her husbands 'disciplinary practises' with respect to their now deceased child and that is why the authorities are also investigating her!!

What if the fathers' discipline resulted in Cooper being harmed/bruised so he attempted to hide the fact by not taking him to Daycare that day as both he and his wife were frightened that Child Services would remove their son from their home! This would explain his 'searches' on the internet re: how long can an animal survive in a hot car; and, why the Daycare didnt call either parent to inquire why Cooper didnt show up, because BOTH parents knew that Cooper would not be attending, and phoned and told the Daycare as much! Lets wait & see where this theory goes.........
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From people I've known involved with Church of Christ it is an odd organization. Music is not allowed in the church and from what I understand members are not allowed to socialize with non members.

Also it was odd that the mother stated in the eulogy that "now he won't have to worry about the awkward parts of life like being a teenager" or something to that effect.

Also, church of Christ related another poster mentioned the Mary Winkler case from Tennessee some years back.
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THE MOTHER also did an internet search on how long it takes a child to die in a hot car, BEFORE their son died in their vehicle.

OMG this is a VERY damning update. Prosecutors are deliberating
PREMEDITATION !!

I guess so ! ...........this is getting very ugly. BOTH PARENTS researched the internet on dying in a hot car. Awful, awful.



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Dang, they couldn't just give him up for adoption if they didn't want him? There's plenty of people who would've taken him!
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This story breaks my heart as the mom of a 17mth old and am 4 months pregnant with #2.

I just did a seach of the mom, Leanna Harris, and found that there's already an online fundraiser started by "Heather." They've raised close to their goal. Read the comments, people are pissed.

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Dang, they couldn't just give him up for adoption if they didn't want him? There's plenty of people who would've taken him!
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I cannot imagine what these parents were thinking!

The UNTHINKABLE apparently !!
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