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LaniJane
User ID: 56792268 United States 05/29/2014 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, and isn't it ironic... Quoting: KarinZa. Anyone out there that feel like the cold, stoic, ultra-reserved emotionless people...bug the crap out of you??? Edit... No offense to anyone. It's just a pet peeve I suppose. That is my 'public' face, the one I wear when I'm out and about taking care of the daily business. I have to, if I don't, someone is bound to knock me out of the center of my universe. I'm like you, I'm the one that strangers seek out and tell their bizarre life stories to and you just shake your head. There's a guy where I live that thinks he wants to be my friend. The first time he approached me I didn't like the way it 'felt'. He approached me again in the grocery store the other day. I don't know what it is about him, he actually appears rather beta, if you catch my drift. Something sets off bells and whistles, though.... "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls." ~ George Carlin |
Lily User ID: 57634456 United States 05/30/2014 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe that some people are capable of sensing/feeling/internalizing others' emotions or is it just a bunch of baloney? Quoting: Tinfoil Couture Oh, absolutely! Even over the threads here, I pick up "vibes" - even in a fairly straightforward post. I think that is fairly common here, when you weed out the shill stuff. With people who are present it is very noticeable sometimes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43859270 United Kingdom 05/30/2014 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe that some people are capable of sensing/feeling/internalizing others' emotions or is it just a bunch of baloney? Quoting: Tinfoil Couture Oh ffs. Some people are good at 'reading' body language, feeling empathy etc, others are hopeless and others are somewhere inbetween. It's normal human variation. There is no need to call the former special names like 'empaths'. Anyone who calls themselves by that silly name is just delusional and arrogant. They desperately want to be 'special'. Sad really. |
Tampa Heather
User ID: 57192133 United States 05/30/2014 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My feeling is that a lot of people diagnosed with social anxiety disorder are actually empaths by nature. Quoting: LaniJane I would agree with this LaniJane and add misdiagnosed bi-polar as well... I do believe some have chemical imbalances in their brain but on an individual basis I'm sure almost all of those cases could be resolved with proper nutrition (iodine, amino acids, sulfur, etc) and coping skills... No one ever taught me proper coping skills so as soon as I turned into a teenager I started to self medicate with alcohol and weed...and fighting...I'm sure a lot of us do :/ Took a good 10 years to get out of that 'rebellion' stage but I am so happy and healthy now...I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's on this planet... I find it fascinating that we tend to have the same characteristics... And for posters like Lucy, Isis One, KarinZa, even you Lani Jane...I just *feel* drawn to...there used to be another poster here that went by the handle Mission Invisible...I really enjoyed and felt drawn to that poster... Where ever you are Mission Invisible, I hope you are well and thriving :) What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger... |
Tinfoil Couture
(OP) User ID: 53671501 United States 05/30/2014 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe that some people are capable of sensing/feeling/internalizing others' emotions or is it just a bunch of baloney? Quoting: Tinfoil Couture Oh ffs. Some people are good at 'reading' body language, feeling empathy etc, others are hopeless and others are somewhere inbetween. It's normal human variation. There is no need to call the former special names like 'empaths'. Anyone who calls themselves by that silly name is just delusional and arrogant. They desperately want to be 'special'. Sad really. So I guess you really suck at reading people? Why all the vitriol? "Don't tell me truth hurts, little girl, 'cause it hurts like hell. --David Bowie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53354570 United States 05/30/2014 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe that some people are capable of sensing/feeling/internalizing others' emotions or is it just a bunch of baloney? Quoting: Tinfoil Couture Everyone is.. It is just, all that garage people create within their own realities, that keeps them from seeing the unified field of shared common space, personal biases blind they with little faith. Everyone has abilities. They are dormant. Because you are not awake. Too many rather dream an illusion painted by their own mind then spend time with the few who are truly "Wide Awake". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43658232 United States 05/30/2014 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My feeling is that a lot of people diagnosed with social anxiety disorder are actually empaths by nature. Quoting: LaniJane I would agree with this LaniJane and add misdiagnosed bi-polar as well... I do believe some have chemical imbalances in their brain but on an individual basis I'm sure almost all of those cases could be resolved with proper nutrition (iodine, amino acids, sulfur, etc) and coping skills... No one ever taught me proper coping skills so as soon as I turned into a teenager I started to self medicate with alcohol and weed...and fighting...I'm sure a lot of us do :/ Took a good 10 years to get out of that 'rebellion' stage but I am so happy and healthy now...I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's on this planet... I find it fascinating that we tend to have the same characteristics... And for posters like Lucy, Isis One, KarinZa, even you Lani Jane...I just *feel* drawn to...there used to be another poster here that went by the handle Mission Invisible...I really enjoyed and felt drawn to that poster... Where ever you are Mission Invisible, I hope you are well and thriving :) Thank you, Heather It's true though, right??? |
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Waterlily User ID: 57634456 United States 05/30/2014 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately it is real - to the wolf making sense - it doesn't make me feel special, it hurts. I don't necessarily feel peoples emotions, but I do feel people's pain, I feel it like my own pain. It sucks. My kids friend took a spill right in front of me the other day and it was like I got kicked in the nuts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53903026 I will also say that I have passively received thoughts from other people, and specifically an acquaintance who I have no real relationship with, yet it has happened many times. Now I just send a text, and she is like OMG! Kinda funny. Don't know how or why any of this happens. Also, I'm narcissistic/self involved, generally (not happy about that either) so that is weird too. But it is definitely for real. And I'll tell you this - generally people are fucking stressed out, almost to the point of panic, this balloon has been blown up real big, and is soooo close to popping. Hybrid suv driving suburbanites are inches away from total savagery. It sucks to admit it, but I tend to be that way too. Always inside my own head. Interesting. Wait... Me too... This is interesting, I mean I AM caring, almost to a fault...but I would consider myself to be self-involved as well :/ Hmmm, is it because deep down we know we have something, some skill, that the others don't? I don't want to derail so please don't respond to this part but curious to know what the ratio is of rh- empaths?? RH- here, but I never connected the two. I feel a lot better out in the country, or even down in my basement. It is difficult being in most cities, but not all. But I really like people. It's just that most of them are so jagged, it is tiring to be around them. |
Waterlily User ID: 57634456 United States 05/30/2014 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe that some people are capable of sensing/feeling/internalizing others' emotions or is it just a bunch of baloney? Quoting: Tinfoil Couture Oh ffs. Some people are good at 'reading' body language, feeling empathy etc, others are hopeless and others are somewhere inbetween. It's normal human variation. There is no need to call the former special names like 'empaths'. Anyone who calls themselves by that silly name is just delusional and arrogant. They desperately want to be 'special'. Sad really. body language, as in over a telephone, or skype or forum threads? what about people who don't call themselves by any name, but are that way anyways? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57505505 United Kingdom 05/31/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe that some people are capable of sensing/feeling/internalizing others' emotions or is it just a bunch of baloney? Quoting: Tinfoil Couture Real. And all those who are aware of the undercurrent know that the way the world is currently constructed, there is a design to ensure that these powers are stolen, harnessed and redirected. You will have posts in this thread of those who know.. However, if you want to test your own level of empathy there is one sure way: attend a large, and I mean large gathering of people who are all totally focussed on one emotion that you absolutely do not share. Two things you can potentially obseve. (beginners) find yourself being whipped up on the wave of emotion to the point that you overwhelmingly feel it too. (advanced) become utterly exhausted as you 'read' the sheer volume of emotion. This will lead you to immediate need to leave, move far away, to regain your strength. (a master) you hear a tone which vibrates your flesh and bone. A Quiet sphere of inertia remains around you. You become only aware of your own being - too much, and you automatically retune and remove your inner self into protection. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 811594 United States 05/31/2014 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people have some sort of empathy for others. When it overwhelms ones senses and you even get mental pictures and understanding of another's emotions...then I call it empath. As a child I was so overwhelmed by other's emotions I would run and hide. I was terribly shy because I would begin to cry in an ordinary situation where most children don't really pay attention to anything. I could feel people's intentions, even see pictures of their actions from past and shortly occurred. I didn't know what to do. Sometimes cried, sometimes scared, sometimes just disappear. As I got older, still didn't know what was happening but learned that these things could be used as tools. Who to avoid, who to trust, who to comfort, who to dread being around, etc. Then I learned to block this energy if I knew I was going to be around them. The one that I have never been able to block is gut wrenching sorrow, it comes in and literally makes me sick and cry uncontrollably. It actually happened in a psychologists ofc. once and she explained to me that I was an empath. So yes it is real for some. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48323033 United States 05/31/2014 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real, and it is not an easy thing to live with. Being in crowds can feel like hell. Being with those you love and knowing what they are saying is not true because you can feel what they are really feeling is difficult. Quoting: ella Walking through a hospital is hell. There is too much suffering and it becomes too much. I agree totally, sadly, you learn to block it off and return to normal human after a while....or manic depressant |
LaniJane
User ID: 56792268 United States 05/31/2014 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My feeling is that a lot of people diagnosed with social anxiety disorder are actually empaths by nature. Quoting: LaniJane I would agree with this LaniJane and add misdiagnosed bi-polar as well... I do believe some have chemical imbalances in their brain but on an individual basis I'm sure almost all of those cases could be resolved with proper nutrition (iodine, amino acids, sulfur, etc) and coping skills... No one ever taught me proper coping skills so as soon as I turned into a teenager I started to self medicate with alcohol and weed...and fighting...I'm sure a lot of us do :/ Took a good 10 years to get out of that 'rebellion' stage but I am so happy and healthy now...I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's on this planet... I find it fascinating that we tend to have the same characteristics... And for posters like Lucy, Isis One, KarinZa, even you Lani Jane...I just *feel* drawn to...there used to be another poster here that went by the handle Mission Invisible...I really enjoyed and felt drawn to that poster... Where ever you are Mission Invisible, I hope you are well and thriving :) "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls." ~ George Carlin |
LaniJane
User ID: 56792268 United States 05/31/2014 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My feeling is that a lot of people diagnosed with social anxiety disorder are actually empaths by nature. Quoting: LaniJane I would agree with this LaniJane and add misdiagnosed bi-polar as well... I do believe some have chemical imbalances in their brain but on an individual basis I'm sure almost all of those cases could be resolved with proper nutrition (iodine, amino acids, sulfur, etc) and coping skills... No one ever taught me proper coping skills so as soon as I turned into a teenager I started to self medicate with alcohol and weed...and fighting...I'm sure a lot of us do :/ Took a good 10 years to get out of that 'rebellion' stage but I am so happy and healthy now...I wouldn't trade my life for anyone else's on this planet... I find it fascinating that we tend to have the same characteristics... And for posters like Lucy, Isis One, KarinZa, even you Lani Jane...I just *feel* drawn to...there used to be another poster here that went by the handle Mission Invisible...I really enjoyed and felt drawn to that poster... Where ever you are Mission Invisible, I hope you are well and thriving :) "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls." ~ George Carlin |
Em18966
User ID: 57844656 United States 05/31/2014 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real, and it is not an easy thing to live with. Being in crowds can feel like hell. Being with those you love and knowing what they are saying is not true because you can feel what they are really feeling is difficult. Quoting: ella Walking through a hospital is hell. There is too much suffering and it becomes too much. This. You constantly feel as though you have too much information about everyone. You know things you have no business knowing and wouldn't want to know and can't explain. What's worse is when you know thing and can't explain why or how you know them, you can't get involved because you have no business with the information in the first place. |
Em18966
User ID: 57844656 United States 05/31/2014 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people have some sort of empathy for others. When it overwhelms ones senses and you even get mental pictures and understanding of another's emotions...then I call it empath. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811594 As a child I was so overwhelmed by other's emotions I would run and hide. I was terribly shy because I would begin to cry in an ordinary situation where most children don't really pay attention to anything. I could feel people's intentions, even see pictures of their actions from past and shortly occurred. I didn't know what to do. Sometimes cried, sometimes scared, sometimes just disappear. As I got older, still didn't know what was happening but learned that these things could be used as tools. Who to avoid, who to trust, who to comfort, who to dread being around, etc. Then I learned to block this energy if I knew I was going to be around them. The one that I have never been able to block is gut wrenching sorrow, it comes in and literally makes me sick and cry uncontrollably. It actually happened in a psychologists ofc. once and she explained to me that I was an empath. So yes it is real for some. The thing about it is that it's just there, and when you're little you just assume everyone experiences things the same way you do. People start thinking you're weird when you're a little too intuitive. I think it runs in families, but most people don't really know how to deal with it. When I was younger I had a lot of serious social problems that as an adult I attribute to this gift/problem. My daughter has the same issues, we call our empathetic feelings 'feeling vibes' and we talk about it a lot - I think it's helped her to have someone to talk to. But it can make you really antisocial. I know I have no patience for pretense and I can't stand to be around 'fake' people because it's so draining to hear one thing and feel another. I stay away from people a lot because it gets so overwhelming at times. It's not like some psychic power you can turn off and on and use as a party trick. Sometimes it's stronger than others and sometimes you just absolutely know things that you shouldn't know and it can be just awful. I'm in my early 30's now and I am just beginning to come to terms with some of the stuff I deal with in a reasonable manner, but I have a hard time believing in psychics that can turn stuff off and on at will or answer every question or do parlor tricks, because it's not like that at all. It's just something that's there. You do learn to trust your gut instinct, though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58711585 Australia 05/31/2014 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting thread! :) I do believe that EVERYONE has the ability to experience this type of empathy but whether or not they tap into it is influenced by many factors, such as how well they read body language, how willing they are to be vulnerable or to show mercy etc. Most importantly, I think true empathy rests on love for others and the willingness to look your own deepest shortcomings and darkest secrets full in the face. I believe God gives some a gift of discernment which turns up the dial a few notches and makes it easier. For me, empaths are just people with discernment who choose to heal hidden hurts and forgive shortcomings as opposed to using insight to tear down and tear apart the twisted and wounded. I have to say that one lesson I've learnt from this is that my 'intuitions' are not always right and I have to keep them in their proper place. Sometimes I will think I know or perceive something only to later find that it was the smallest piece in the puzzle or that it was just my own assumptions dressed up as insight. |
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