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Let's Say you Were "Blessed" to Photograph the true "Face of Christ/G-d": Would you make T-Shirts and Sell it?

 
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POLL: I feel that putting something I believe to be the "Face of God" on a T-Shirt is:
 ...A way to bring this wonderful information to other people!
 ...A slap in the face to other religions who hold Orion sacred.
 ...A great way to make some extra dough.
 ...A way to really make the Catholic Church furious!
 ...Nothing special. People do what they want and wear T-Shirts so what?
 ...Doesn't seem to match the 2 years of research and videos telling us Heaven is in Orion!
 ...Is a great idea--I think they are really pretty. I'd get one!
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Just a couple of things before we begin the thread!

EDITED: 5-21-2014
"SPECIAL NOTE TO DANNY WILTEN & thank you GLP!
Bottom of page 3.


EDITED: 5-19-2014

Edited thread (removed a misquote on biblical
scripture--sorry about that!) Added the pic
of the lightning-bolt striking the Vatican
(My own knee-jerk reaction to wearing a T-shirt
with "sacred symbolism/Orion Nebula" on the
front! Yeah...I'm serious!)

If you think this thread is worth more than a
1 star--please be sure to vote at the top of
the page! Thanks! SK


This is NOT a thread created to offend
anyone's religious beliefs, nor is it meant
to offend the author of the "T-Shirts" I am
having trouble wrapping my mind around for this
discussion. It is about "what is sacred" and
"How to we treat what we believe to be Sacred"
especially in the casual climate of the U.S. culture
today! Please be polite in your comments--remember
I am JUST THE MESSENGER HERE! I haven't made up
my own opinion--just asking for GLP's input!

END OF EDITS
hfhfhf

THIS is Orion!


[link to www.youtube.com]
July 12, 2012
FairUSE
Comparing Amateur photos and Observatories of The Orion Nebula w/narration by Danny Wilten.

Orion the constellation and "The Orion Nebula" (located
in Orion The Hunter's sword is one of the most beautiful
of all the nebulas. Only discovered in the 1600's, it wasn't widely known except to very ancient peoples, such
as the Egyptians, some Native American Indian tribes and
it is a question as to when The Orion Nebula became known
to the Vatican (given that some Vatican Art appears to have the Orion Nebula incorporated in some of its art as early as the 1400's (such as the Cistine Chapel in Rome.)
Some speculate that Orion's Nebula may have been drawn or recorded in ancient Egyptian documents discovered
and deciphered by Asthenius Kercher the "Father" of Egyptology and a Jesuit Priest. The Vatican would
obviously have privileged info from his life's work.

OriginalTriptych

Orion is, in fact, a sacred image to many of the world's
ancient religions--especially to Egypt which built some
of the world's most stunning monuments honoring its
place in the heavens. The 3 Great Pyramids of Giza are
said to "mirror" the 3 "belt stars" of Orion (while the
Orion Nebula is located in Orion the Hunter's "sword.")

I have been studying the Orion Nebula for about 2 years
--mainly through the wonderful research and presentations
by Danny Wilten.

MY OWN PATH TO ORION:
I first came upon the work and analysis of the Orion Nebula
by Danny Wilten through a strange set of circumstances. New
to GLP in July of 2012...I just clicked a random thread by
GLP's "Abhie" called: "wow! The Celestial Nile Discovered"
Link:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

This is one of Danny Wilten's earlier videos (and is
the image that this thread's topic is concerning!)

[link to www.youtube.com]
Michaelangelo Cistine Chapel
FairUSE

Coincidentally, just as I found Abhie's thread on The
Celestial Nile, I had also just finished watching the film
"The DaVinci Code" with Tom Hanks. I remembered Danny Wilten's "candidate Art" in Vatican Cathedrals always
had a downward-pointing "V" (for Orion) which, of course, you remember was the discussion in the DaVinci Code movie about the "V" in "The Last Supper" painting representing
a "Sacred Symbol for Womanhood." It was Dan Brown's sensational
theory that Leonardo DaVinci was secretly telling the world
through this "V" in "The Last Supper" that Jesus and Mary
Magdolin were actually married and had conceived a child.
(I don't personally believe this, but it made a great movie!)

At this point I joined Abhie's discussion on his NEXT
THREAD--DaVinci's The Last Supper with my "ah ha moment"
--seeing this "V" shape as NOT Dan Brown's symbol of womanhood, but actually the shape of the symbol for The Sacred Symbol for the Orion Nebula! (And...which I still hold to be the truth today.)
Link:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
(my post "Silentlyknowing" is quoted by Abhie on Post #2)

I became a GLP member (largely through this experience)
and composed my first thread on Danny Wilten's material
in April of 2013.
Link:
Thread: Behind the "VEIL of Isis": Ancient Egypt's REAL SECRET isn't The Great Pyramid!

Abhie and I did some brain-storming together and
he was able to make these composite pictures of
the "V" superimposed over the The Last Supper Painting.
ResizedORIGINALd

AND

ResizedDavinciNi
So, you can see that both Abhie and I are extremely
"invested" in Danny Wilten's research and the
direction that he chooses to take his UTUBE channel.

This is where I have a problem right now! I could use your
in-put to help me sort out my mixed feelings on a new
direction Danny Wilten is taking his UTUBE channel and
research.

QUESTION: IF YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD FOUND THE "MIND OF GOD"
IN THE HEAVENS WOULD YOU PLACE THAT IMAGE ON A T-SHIRT?


Maybe I am "old school" but...seems to me that to spend
2 years researching the Orion Nebula and going into such
great depth into the "ancient mysteries" of The First
Adam, The Christ, etc. would put The Orion Nebula
and whatever images you may have "captured" into a
very special place in your mind. Wouldn't you want to
honor this "gift" of sacred information that the Universe
has so generously given you by keeping it "above
mundane things?" And...just to give equal time to the
other side of the question...Perhaps, using current
culture's passion for T-shirts this media would be a
terrific way to "get the word out" about exactly what
it was that you had found. It can be argued both ways.

So...Why does the idea of my--personally--putting on
a T-Shirt with the Orion Nebula make me feel so uneasy?
Maybe it was because I was raised Presbyterian/Lutheran
and it was drummed into my head "Thou shalt not create
any graven images"...Thou this and Thou that... (as one
of the biggies in the 10 Commandments). My mindset has
changed drastically over the years...yet my knee-jerk
reaction to seeing Danny put up his videos on the new
Orion Nebula T-shirts flashed the image into my mind of that lightning bolt hitting the Vatican! lol!

VaticanSTRIKE

I could just picture myself walking down the street
wearing one of Danny Wilten's beautiful T-shirts and
getting run over by a hit-and-run atheist! (I'm
exaggerating of course...but I had this strange
reaction to it and I don't even understand it myself!) Where is this coming from?

Here are Danny Witen's current videos advertising his
Orion T-Shirts:

[link to www.youtube.com]
"Heavenly Adam Tshirt"
UTUBE video released this weekend 5-18-2014
NOTE: THIS is not an attempt to advertise Wilten's
products--I have no connection to his channel nor
his new T-shirt line! It's just to show you how the
T-Shirts look.

Am I missing something here?
I do recall Danny Wilten at some point in his many videos
on Orion and as that this area was the representation
in the Heavens of the "First Adam/Christ!" He also
had some videos showing hands-down proof that the
Orion Nebula Trapezium was secretly painted into the background of many Vatican cathedral paintings--especially that one by Michaelangelo in the Cistine Chapel (video above) and felt that this was a misrepresentation of
"Jesus" in the paintings when in fact they should have
ALSO disclosed that not only were they honoring Christ,
but that they were worshiping Orion and the Orion Nebula
as well. (I agreed with him on that point!)

Yet, here we are in May of 2014 with the same visual of Orion many of us have embraced as being something
incredible and important with respect to "Heaven" and
"the First Adam"...being tossed into the arena of
capitalism and being given the mundane application
for use as a decoration for the body. Then again...
I have seen images of The Virgin Mary, some of the
famous images of Jesus by great artists being printed
on T-Shirts...and nobody gets upset about those.
Is it the idea that "No advertising for God...is "bad"
advertising?" Should I buy one of these T-shirts?
Am I just being superstitious and all of this is
my childhood Lutheran grandfather's programming
that I'm not even aware I have?

NOTE:
This is NOT a thread created to offend
anyone's religious beliefs, nor is it meant
to offend the author of the "T-Shirts" I am
having trouble wrapping my mind around for this
discussion. It is about "what is sacred" and
"How to we treat what we believe to be Sacred"
especially in the casual climate of the U.S. culture
today! Please be polite in your comments--remember
I am JUST THE MESSENGER HERE! I haven't made up
my own opinion--just asking for GLP's input!

What do you think?
cheers
SK

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God has no face in space, so none of the above apply. I can't take the poll.
 Quoting: Abinadi


Well..THAT makes it easy! Thanks Abinadi!
hf
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God has no physical form, and as a result of such, no face.

See St. Augustine's Confessions,and his struggle to comprehend God, because he as a materialist kept trying to put a face to a name.
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Luckily, because this is an impossibility, I don't have to think about it.

God is omnipresent - everywhere. So you cannot take His picture at one particular place.

God bless you! hf
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Danny Wilton home video -> tard
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Here is the thing, if he wants to sell them he can and no one has the right to patent our cosmos, its all of ours.

A person may find something in good taste or poor taste, but its not up them.

And I consider waking people up the most important thing, awareness, to stop the torturous death of babies and families around the world, underground and ritual sacrifice.

So I say kudo's to him, every little bit helps.

Sacred, The Highest Love and Goodness in Existence Dad/Mom worship the little toes of their children and consider each child murdered sacred beyond. For such is LOVE.

It conceives of no ego or airs.

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What if it looked like a bug?
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None of the above. I would prefer to share it verbally and allow the usual skeptics to laugh their rears off. Hahaha
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What if God doesn't want his face on a t shirt
Especially for something that is not free to all ?

Then you would make $150 and be struck by lightning !
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Not his image, part of his beautiful creation and
looks great on a shirt or a painting or coffee mug
My understanding of scripture the money changers,
were like a currency exchange and provided lambs
for sacrifice to travelers ,but they were cheating
ppl in the exchange and overcharging for the sacrifices
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In my opinion to charge money for truth (or what one perceives truth as) Debases it.
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G-d painted the heavens, now you are trying to make money off his work? If it's for a good cause, like feeding the poor or bringing happiness into people lives, I do not object. If it's for your personal gain or your ego, I do object.
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Hell yeah I would!

I would make sure to hire a whole team of lawyers to sue the shit out of anyone using my "intellectual property" to make money. Don't fuck with my margins ;)
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G-d painted the heavens, now you are trying to make money off his work? If it's for a good cause, like feeding the poor or bringing happiness into people lives, I do not object. If it's for your personal gain or your ego, I do object.

God made all, no money could be made if it wasn't off his work, therefore you object to your on survival?
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I can immediately see a problem. The kind of person whose reaction to seeing the face of God is to sell some t-shirts is probably (from what I know at least) not the type God is likely to show his face to.
Not judging, just observing. I used to be a graphic designer and loved using hubble images as backgrounds on large format stuff. The beauty of God's creation is probably as close as any of us will ever come to seeing God.
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What if God doesn't want his face on a t shirt
Especially for something that is not free to all ?

Then you would make $150 and be struck by lightning !
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God bless your heart!
That really made me laugh. I get your idea
here...what if--just for the sake of argument--
(NOT saying Yeah and Nay, o.k?) But say that the
image of the Orion Nebula IS IN FACT as aspect of
the Creator (we don't know WHAT ASPECT that may
be...of course, it is NOT a face--that was just a
hypothetical I used in the Poll!) And IF it turned
out to be something that was supposed to be kept
AWAY from common useage--the folks who actually
do go ahead and purchase these shirts may be
set-up for having the worst luck of their lives!
What a riot!
It certainly would make an interesting movie script
if nothing else!
Thanks for the smile!
hf
SK

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Not his image, part of his beautiful creation and
looks great on a shirt or a painting or coffee mug
My understanding of scripture the money changers,
were like a currency exchange and provided lambs
for sacrifice to travelers ,but they were cheating
ppl in the exchange and overcharging for the sacrifices
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12005764


I see. Thanks for clearing that up!
I had thought for years that this passage had
something to do with Jesus being very upset that
people were selling ANYTHING in the temple. I
guess I must have missed that year at Sunday
school. That helps me a great deal.
hf
SK
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What if God doesn't want his face on a t shirt
Especially for something that is not free to all ?

Then you would make $150 and be struck by lightning !
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In this playpen, the adult would laugh at the antics of the kiddies here, don't yah think, nor does the adult have any offense or airs of thrones, or lord lord, king king, etc. Adults serve the kids, sometimes they take the kids out back and paddle them but thats not the kind of Higher Ups I approve of, but in this school can understand the sentiment at times.

But not for nonsense that doesnt matter like this.

Rape matters.

Murder matters.

Allowing economic systems that starve half the world and steal people's rights to build homes and not be homeless matters.

THese are huge cosmic crimes against all souls.

That doesnt matter.
The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist.
The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist.
Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light!
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whatever crazy
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Danny WIlten's stuff is fascinating, been watching his videos for months now. I was a bit put off by the t-shirts though but they are definite conversation-starters.

The only problem is that no one is going to believe any of the info - heck, look at how many GLPers are skeptical of his videos. It's not like someone's gonna see your t-shirt, strike up a convo, and in 15 minutes you'll convince them of the magnitude of stuff thats in his work.
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What if it looked like a bug?
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Some bugs are beautiful. You mean...what if it was
a really REALLY UGLY bug and not a pretty nebula.
I don't think if G-d wanted to become physical,
that he/she/it would choose something that was
ugly do you?
Hmmmmm....
cheers
SK
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It shows that Wilten doesn't have respect for the esoteric research he claims he understands. If he truly understood it, he wouldn't be selling crappy merchandise. It shows that he is not in this for truth, he is in it for money and fame. He wants to collect youtube subscribers and facebook followers and make some cash and be thought of as someone important. He is not about seeking the truth, he is about feeding his own ego which is about as big and bloated as they come.

One of the shirt designs, of the brain overlaid on the pyramid, is copyright infringement since he wasn't the first researcher to make that comparison despite his claims. He's changed the brain image and colors, but someone else years before him already made that alignment and did a better job of it too.
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Danny WIlten's stuff is fascinating, been watching his videos for months now. I was a bit put off by the t-shirts though but they are definite conversation-starters.

The only problem is that no one is going to believe any of the info - heck, look at how many GLPers are skeptical of his videos. It's not like someone's gonna see your t-shirt, strike up a convo, and in 15 minutes you'll convince them of the magnitude of stuff thats in his work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41056567


I've had the same feeling, A.C.6567. Lots of
skeptics already have posted and I see what you mean.

Maybe just keeping the image in mind for how ever it
is that YOU wish to embrace it is the key to this thing.
It wouldn't really be any different than if you went
to a planetarium in some big city and then went to
their gift shop for a souvenier to take home. Or if
you went to visit the NASA headquarters in Florida
and they had an "Orion T-Shirt" in their gift shop
(*they probably do have them!)
It brings up many things to many people and it is
not ALL going to be about concepts of G-d if you
do have a conversation when wearing one of the
shirts.
Thanks!
hf
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the comical aspect of wilten's idea about the nebula and the brain... he has the brain facing the wrong direction, in right profile... oh I know he thinks everyone else, including the neuroscientists who study the brain, has the brain going the wrong direction in left profile and only he is correct. I've heard his argument for why it is in right profile, and he's comically incorrect... anyone who "studies pattern recognition" and the brain can see just how wrong he is. So on that shirt with the skull and the nebula, he's got the skull facing the wrong way... so it's not actually any kind of "truth" it's just misinformation
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Danny WIlten's stuff is fascinating, been watching his videos for months now. I was a bit put off by the t-shirts though but they are definite conversation-starters.

The only problem is that no one is going to believe any of the info - heck, look at how many GLPers are skeptical of his videos. It's not like someone's gonna see your t-shirt, strike up a convo, and in 15 minutes you'll convince them of the magnitude of stuff thats in his work.
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you know why some people are skeptical of his videos...because a lot of it is not accurate. He's got a few things correct, a lot of which has already been published by other researchers, so he's brought very little of anything new to the table. WIth the exception of the nebula in relation to some of the paintings, he's brought nothing new to the table... except a lot of his own inaccurate theories.

The sad thing is how blind most of his followers are and don't question his analysis, they just accept everything he says without questioning.
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the comical aspect of wilten's idea about the nebula and the brain... he has the brain facing the wrong direction, in right profile... oh I know he thinks everyone else, including the neuroscientists who study the brain, has the brain going the wrong direction in left profile and only he is correct. I've heard his argument for why it is in right profile, and he's comically incorrect... anyone who "studies pattern recognition" and the brain can see just how wrong he is. So on that shirt with the skull and the nebula, he's got the skull facing the wrong way... so it's not actually any kind of "truth" it's just misinformation
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He is trying to align his theory with the presentations
from Manly Hall who said: "...whose face is always in
(left) profile." So you are saying that in that
video on the Cistine Chapel (first video in intro
paragraph) that his "take" on Michealangelo's G-d
touching Adam's finger is the brain going in the wrong
direction? Hum.....
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05/18/2014 11:01 PM
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Re: Let's Say you Were "Blessed" to Photograph the true "Face of Christ/G-d": Would you make T-Shirts and Sell it?





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