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Be an outlaw.

 
Born Free

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04/28/2014 11:56 PM

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Be an outlaw.
When I talk to people about anarchy, they remind me that it's impossible. That it could never work. That the only reason people do what is right is because of coercive authority and strict enforcement. Laws and punishment. But is this right? Do laws make the good? Or is it good people who make the good? Our heroes have always been outlaws; the people who do what's right regardless of the flawed laws of our corrupt leaders. Why is it so difficult for people to see that the integrity of individual character is what determines good behavior? And that nothing destroys the integrity of individual character more than coercive institutions which promote limited experience, limited thinking, and conformity to the misguided values which enslave us. We could make better people and a better society without masters. It isn't impossible.

“The difference between a criminal and an outlaw is that while criminals frequently are victims, outlaws never are. Indeed, the first step toward becoming a true outlaw is the refusal to be victimized. All people who live subject to other people's laws are victims. People who break laws out of greed, frustration, or vengeance are victims. People who overturn laws in order to replace them with their own laws are victims. ( I am speaking here of revolutionaries.) We outlaws, however, live beyond the law. We don't merely live beyond the letter of the law-many businessmen, most politicians, and all cops do that-we live beyond the spirit of the law. In a sense, then, we live beyond society. Have we a common goal, that goal is to turn the tables on the 'nature' of society. When we succeed, we raise the exhilaration content of the universe. We even raise it a little bit when we fail.

When war turns whole populations into sleepwalkers, outlaws don't join forces with alarm clocks. Outlaws, like poets, rearrange the nightmare.

The trite mythos of the outlaw; the self-conscious romanticism of the outlaw; the black wardrobe of the outlaw; the fey smile of the outlaw; the tequila of the outlaw and the beans of the outlaw; respectable men sneer and say 'outlaw'; young women palpitate and say 'outlaw'. The outlaw boat sails against the flow; outlaws toilet where badgers toilet. All outlaws are photogenic. 'When freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free.' There are outlaw maps that lead to outlaw treasures. Unwilling to wait for mankind to improve, the outlaw lives as if that day were here. Outlaws are can openers in the supermarket of life.”
-Tom Robbins, Still Life with Woodpecker

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04/29/2014 12:04 AM
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The outcome I see from anarchy is the running off or killing off of every scumfuck in the land, every banker, lawyer, politician, judge, every piece of shit preying on decent people. It would take some time to shake itself out without question. But in the end you probably would be left with mostly decent people if you could avoid the trap of allowing another class of bandits to rise up and take their place. Vacuums are always filled. And that is where it probably all falls down.
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04/29/2014 12:09 AM
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Done.
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04/29/2014 12:11 AM

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The outcome I see from anarchy is the running off or killing off of every scumfuck in the land, every banker, lawyer, politician, judge, every piece of shit preying on decent people. It would take some time to shake itself out without question. But in the end you probably would be left with mostly decent people if you could avoid the trap of allowing another class of bandits to rise up and take their place. Vacuums are always filled. And that is where it probably all falls down.
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This is true. A failed state will look a lot different than the ideals of anarchism. But if we could make it through the failures of our corrupt powers, and start to promote the values we know are right, the old way will eventually become obsolete. Maybe not Utopia. But better than this dystopian nightmare.
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Bonnie and Clyde were hero's to the people. Like robin hood, except they robbed and killed people for fun.
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04/29/2014 12:20 AM
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Disobedience to bad law and lawless leaders is a civic duty and I consider myself VERRRY civic minded.

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04/29/2014 12:21 AM
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Back in the 1860's they wanted the gunslingers gone and after that happened they said " hey " bring those guys back? To late dipshits their gone !

Unlearn your " slave " education

Most notorious outlaws were PK's by the way
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04/29/2014 12:24 AM

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Bonnie and Clyde were hero's to the people. Like robin hood, except they robbed and killed people for fun.
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Bonnie and Clyde were criminals according to the wise philosophizing of Tom Robbins. I'd agree. Criminals are fascinating. But they're only heroes to those with the warped values of our hijacked social system.
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Back in the 1860's they wanted the gunslingers gone and after that happened they said " hey " bring those guys back? To late dipshits their gone !

Unlearn your " slave " education

Most notorious outlaws were PK's by the way
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


I must admit, I don't know what PK's are. Peacekeepers?
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Back in the 1860's they wanted the gunslingers gone and after that happened they said " hey " bring those guys back? To late dipshits their gone !

Unlearn your " slave " education

Most notorious outlaws were PK's by the way
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


I must admit, I don't know what PK's are. Peacekeepers?
 Quoting: Born Free


Player Killers in the game of life, get some!
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Back in the 1860's they wanted the gunslingers gone and after that happened they said " hey " bring those guys back? To late dipshits their gone !

Unlearn your " slave " education

Most notorious outlaws were PK's by the way
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


I must admit, I don't know what PK's are. Peacekeepers?
 Quoting: Born Free


Preachers kids

William Bonny , Jesse James and most notorious of all " Jon Wes Hardin"

All PK's
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04/29/2014 12:41 AM
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Jon Wes Hardin killed 48 men " that's admitted to"

Who knows the real number , wild men make the world turn

Our society hates wild men
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The founders said that the only way the republic would work if you retain a moral population, that's why they only wanted English people pretty much exclusively. Ben Franklin even said GERMANS were too dark to enter the country!

But yes I think anarchy is possible and works well with an armed white population, because whites are the only ones that take care of their communities and take care of the bad guys on their own, without the need of government. But when you look at non-white countries, anarchy just does not work because evil thrives in anarchy in those countries. While good seems to thrive in anarchy in white countries.
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Jonny Cash does a song about " Wes Hardin" on his " murder " album

It's the baddest song ever recorded , have to buy it , not on the internet anywhere
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04/29/2014 12:51 AM
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Jonny Cash does a song about " Wes Hardin" on his " murder " album

It's the baddest song ever recorded , have to buy it , not on the internet anywhere
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This is a version of it , but the song from the murder album is the greatest song ever recorded
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04/29/2014 12:53 AM
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hf
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Back in the 1860's they wanted the gunslingers gone and after that happened they said " hey " bring those guys back? To late dipshits their gone !

Unlearn your " slave " education

Most notorious outlaws were PK's by the way
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


I must admit, I don't know what PK's are. Peacekeepers?
 Quoting: Born Free


Preachers kids

William Bonny , Jesse James and most notorious of all " Jon Wes Hardin"

All PK's
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


I see. I honestly don't know enough about these men to know if they were criminals or outlaws. I've heard conflicting histories. Anyway, I'm using 'outlaw' here in a mythic and philosophical sense. Not in the sense that statists use it.

It doesn't surprise me that they were PK's. Repression leads to rebellion.
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Jonny Cash does a song about " Wes Hardin" on his " murder " album

It's the baddest song ever recorded , have to buy it , not on the internet anywhere
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744




This is a version of it , but the song from the murder album is the greatest song ever recorded
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


Amazing song, man.
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hf
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Yes!
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Back in the 1860's they wanted the gunslingers gone and after that happened they said " hey " bring those guys back? To late dipshits their gone !

Unlearn your " slave " education

Most notorious outlaws were PK's by the way
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


I must admit, I don't know what PK's are. Peacekeepers?
 Quoting: Born Free


Preachers kids

William Bonny , Jesse James and most notorious of all " Jon Wes Hardin"

All PK's
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


I see. I honestly don't know enough about these men to know if they were criminals or outlaws. I've heard conflicting histories. Anyway, I'm using 'outlaw' here in a mythic and philosophical sense. Not in the sense that statists use it.

It doesn't surprise me that they were PK's. Repression leads to rebellion.
 Quoting: Born Free


Yesterday's villains are today's heroes , as many who serve life life in prison have said? I would be " knighted" for men I have killed 500 years ago but now I serve life in prison

" there will never be harm in reading history "

Now? I will share with you a secret that few know , this is a mystery of the universe that few will understand

The reason these " PK's " became notorious is because there Fathers served God , he promises to shield and protect those and their families in his fold " even those who do wrong"

This is a mystery of life and few will ever understand , Gods mystique is hard for the finite to comprehend
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Jonny Cash does a song about " Wes Hardin" on his " murder " album

It's the baddest song ever recorded , have to buy it , not on the internet anywhere
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744




This is a version of it , but the song from the murder album is the greatest song ever recorded
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744


Amazing song, man.
 Quoting: Born Free


Buy that murder album " it's bad ass!!!
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Distinguishing between "outlaw" and criminal is a dreamily romantic and quaint notion but unfortunately arbitrarily subjective.
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Distinguishing between "outlaw" and criminal is a dreamily romantic and quaint notion but unfortunately arbitrarily subjective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38236281


Who does DHS call " outlaws"?

U.S. Soldiers returning from war?

Liberty lovers?

Those who hold onto the constitution ?

Flag wavers?

A man wavers in thought only to get his head caved in
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Distinguishing between "outlaw" and criminal is a dreamily romantic and quaint notion but unfortunately arbitrarily subjective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38236281


Who does DHS call " outlaws"?

U.S. Soldiers returning from war?

Liberty lovers?

Those who hold onto the constitution ?

Flag wavers?

A man wavers in thought only to get his head caved in
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744



This post ^^^ makes absolutely no sense. Try to reorder your thoughts in a cogent manner.
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Distinguishing between "outlaw" and criminal is a dreamily romantic and quaint notion but unfortunately arbitrarily subjective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38236281


Many (if not most) notions are subjective. Which is why monopolizing power to violently enforce notions isn't a great idea.
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Many humans are inter dimensional and intergalactic outlaws and renegades in human guise that came here for rehabilitation. We can be better. We will be better.
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It's also true if you want the women.

Women love outlaws. Be an outlaw, build that criminal record resume, slay all the pussy you want
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Distinguishing between "outlaw" and criminal is a dreamily romantic and quaint notion but unfortunately arbitrarily subjective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38236281


Who does DHS call " outlaws"?

U.S. Soldiers returning from war?

Liberty lovers?

Those who hold onto the constitution ?

Flag wavers?

A man wavers in thought only to get his head caved in
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744



This post ^^^ makes absolutely no sense. Try to reorder your thoughts in a cogent manner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38236281


It makes all the sense in the world , you did not understand because you were born a complete retard void of any common sense what so ever hf
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It's also true if you want the women.

Women love outlaws. Be an outlaw, build that criminal record resume, slay all the pussy you want
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57482673


Outlaws and Criminals are two different things.
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Distinguishing between "outlaw" and criminal is a dreamily romantic and quaint notion but unfortunately arbitrarily subjective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38236281


Who does DHS call " outlaws"?

U.S. Soldiers returning from war?

Liberty lovers?

Those who hold onto the constitution ?

Flag wavers?

A man wavers in thought only to get his head caved in
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51957744



This post ^^^ makes absolutely no sense. Try to reorder your thoughts in a cogent manner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38236281


You need to be hung upside down and beaten , that will correct your ignorant ways hf
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It's also true if you want the women.

Women love outlaws. Be an outlaw, build that criminal record resume, slay all the pussy you want
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57482673


Outlaws and Criminals are two different things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56306878


Same thing. Thug Life.

2pac's group was known as "The Outlawz"

But seriously, I think Pancho Villa is a good example of a great Outlaw. A Robin Hood of sorts





GLP