Lastelection14.com Code Breaking Thread - Will Be Updated as Progress is Made | |
°Lucy°
User ID: 55425014 Germany 03/22/2014 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been thinking on that translation again ( I used to have russian at school 6 years...cant remember much unfortunately :(( ) But the way its writing has a particular meaning, which isn't simply "You hold the key" If you like to say that, you just could type it in the translator in english and get: Vy derzhite klyuch. As you can see, the second and third words are different. To the way of the website title: Quoting: °Lucy° vy uderzhivayte klavishu vy - meaning "all of you" uderzhivayte - the word its coming from would be uderzh or uderzhivat' meaning: hold, deter, restrain, hold down, retain, deduct, withhold, maintain, refrain, detain, stop. hold back uderzhiva would mean retention klavishu - coming from the word klavisha meaning a key(s) as in a key you press the "u" ending is plural You all restrain the button? Maybe more like "you have to keep holding down the keys" ? It has nothing to do with a key as in key for opening a door or so. Why have to get away from that idea. The "key" meant here is a key you can press, as a button or whatever. But also in plural! "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Doomish
(OP) User ID: 8052347 United States 03/22/2014 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But if you just put in "you hold the key" in google translate from English to Russian, you get "Vy uderzhivayte klavishu." I'm guessing the word usage wasn't mysterious, it was lazy. Quoting: Doomish Last Edited by Doomish on 03/22/2014 04:34 PM Trying to bring GLP together. I'm still collecting flags from posters all over the world. Thread: Official "Flags from around the world" thread. Hoping to get posts from all countries that frequent GLP. :gratefulsig: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41664090 United Kingdom 03/22/2014 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
°Lucy°
User ID: 55425014 Germany 03/22/2014 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hold all keys mentioned? Hold all keys not mentioned? Press every key mentioned in the order it is displayed? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41664090 lol, how? using fingers and toes? Maybe its time to play with that website again... lol "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
CynicallyJaded
User ID: 55881410 United States 03/22/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been thinking on that translation again ( I used to have russian at school 6 years...cant remember much unfortunately :(( ) But the way its writing has a particular meaning, which isn't simply "You hold the key" If you like to say that, you just could type it in the translator in english and get: Vy derzhite klyuch. As you can see, the second and third words are different. To the way of the website title: Quoting: °Lucy° vy uderzhivayte klavishu vy - meaning "all of you" uderzhivayte - the word its coming from would be uderzh or uderzhivat' meaning: hold, deter, restrain, hold down, retain, deduct, withhold, maintain, refrain, detain, stop. hold back uderzhiva would mean retention klavishu - coming from the word klavisha meaning a key(s) as in a key you press the "u" ending is plural This is good thinking and very much in line of where my thoughts are veering. I mentioned this to someone over at that other site who's a programmer and that agreed that the meaning could be construed along these lines. The problem is, according to them, there is no key capture events scripted on the webpage. This also leads me to thinking that it isn't a simple word search. I also don't think anagrams come in to play as with this large of a group of letters, you could recreate almost any work of literature extant. We have obviously incorrect form used in the title of the page with the added implication that the message itself is telling us more than the words being used. One of the posts I saw on that other site had a break down comparing how often letters are commonly used in English vs how often letters appear in the grid of text. Not sure if any of this helps, but I did want to get my thoughts where someone might be able to make use of them. |
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°Lucy°
User ID: 55425014 Germany 03/22/2014 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we should start analyzing the letters more... maybe this does help. here it shows some analytics of the letters [link to www.cryptool-online.org] "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
°Lucy°
User ID: 55425014 Germany 03/22/2014 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is good thinking and very much in line of where my thoughts are veering. Quoting: CynicallyJaded I mentioned this to someone over at that other site who's a programmer and that agreed that the meaning could be construed along these lines. The problem is, according to them, there is no key capture events scripted on the webpage. This also leads me to thinking that it isn't a simple word search. I also don't think anagrams come in to play as with this large of a group of letters, you could recreate almost any work of literature extant. We have obviously incorrect form used in the title of the page with the added implication that the message itself is telling us more than the words being used. One of the posts I saw on that other site had a break down comparing how often letters are commonly used in English vs how often letters appear in the grid of text. Not sure if any of this helps, but I did want to get my thoughts where someone might be able to make use of them. We should quote that post over here in this thread. I will see if I can find it "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55622860 United States 03/22/2014 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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CynicallyJaded
User ID: 55881410 United States 03/22/2014 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is good thinking and very much in line of where my thoughts are veering. Quoting: CynicallyJaded I mentioned this to someone over at that other site who's a programmer and that agreed that the meaning could be construed along these lines. The problem is, according to them, there is no key capture events scripted on the webpage. This also leads me to thinking that it isn't a simple word search. I also don't think anagrams come in to play as with this large of a group of letters, you could recreate almost any work of literature extant. We have obviously incorrect form used in the title of the page with the added implication that the message itself is telling us more than the words being used. One of the posts I saw on that other site had a break down comparing how often letters are commonly used in English vs how often letters appear in the grid of text. Not sure if any of this helps, but I did want to get my thoughts where someone might be able to make use of them. We should quote that post over here in this thread. I will see if I can find it Yeah. I remember it. I think a Dutch AC. I found it and can quote here: Letter -Relative frequency in the English language a 8.167% b 1.492% c 2.782% d 4.253% e 12.702% f 2.228% g 2.015% h 6.094% i 6.966% j 0.153% k 0.772% l 4.025% m 2.406% n 6.749% o 7.507% p 1.929% q 0.095% r 5.987% s 6.327% t 9.056% u 2.758% v 0.978% w 2.360% x 0.150% y 1.974% z 0.074% from [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Doomish
(OP) User ID: 8052347 United States 03/22/2014 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53341372 We're not sure. It could relate to the HAARP location, the Alaska pyramid, the Alaska pipeline, or for a yet unknown reason, the entire state of Alaska. Last Edited by Doomish on 03/22/2014 05:05 PM Trying to bring GLP together. I'm still collecting flags from posters all over the world. Thread: Official "Flags from around the world" thread. Hoping to get posts from all countries that frequent GLP. :gratefulsig: |
°Lucy°
User ID: 55425014 Germany 03/22/2014 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.cryptool-online.org] Here a analysis on how often Letters were used, as well as combinations in the text Nr. Histogram Bigram Trigram 1. D 28 5.6% BN 3 0.6% EJL 2 0.4% 2. L 26 5.2% DD 3 0.6% BEE 2 0.4% 3. F 24 4.8% ID 3 0.6% STL 2 0.4% 4. T 24 4.8% EN 3 0.6% ABN 2 0.4% 5. E 24 4.8% XX 3 0.6% RFA 1 0.2% 6. X 22 4.4% UW 3 0.6% RFM 1 0.2% 7. O 22 4.4% LR 3 0.6% REQ 1 0.2% 8. A 22 4.4% EA 3 0.6% RCU 1 0.2% 9. N 22 4.4% TG 3 0.6% REA 1 0.2% 10. W 22 4.4% QW 3 0.6% RGT 1 0.2% 11. U 21 4.2% CV 3 0.6% RHB 1 0.2% 12. R 20 4% FM 3 0.6% ROY 1 0.2% 13. J 19 3.8% FQ 3 0.6% QDW 1 0.2% 14. G 19 3.8% WK 3 0.6% RNG 1 0.2% 15. B 18 3.6% BE 3 0.6% RLJ 1 0.2% 16. C 18 3.6% QC 3 0.6% RJP 1 0.2% 17. V 17 3.4% DW 3 0.6% RLI 1 0.2% 18. Q 17 3.4% EJ 3 0.6% RCO 1 0.2% 19. K 16 3.2% ED 3 0.6% RCL 1 0.2% 20. H 15 3% AF 3 0.6% QOG 1 0.2% 21. Y 15 3% AD 3 0.6% QWI 1 0.2% 22. S 15 3% DS 3 0.6% QLD 1 0.2% 23. M 14 2.8% OV 3 0.6% QHG 1 0.2% 24. P 14 2.8% RC 3 0.6% QEM 1 0.2% 25. Z 13 2.6% JU 3 0.6% QGM 1 0.2% 26. I 13 2.6% ST 3 0.6% QWR 1 0.2% 27. LD 3 0.6% QWT 1 0.2% 28. ML 2 0.4% QZU 1 0.2% 29. TR 2 0.4% RTY 1 0.2% 30. EL 2 0.4% QYR 1 0.2% Last Edited by °Lucy° on 03/22/2014 04:49 PM "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
CynicallyJaded
User ID: 55881410 United States 03/22/2014 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53341372 the marker goes to Alaska in general and not the specific spot, or so my thinking goes which is support by several valid arguments. There is another set of coordinates in the source code that points to a place out in the Atlantic ocean near the Mid Atlantic Ridge. This could be construed to be a reference to MAR 15 in one of the original hidden messages found on the countdown site. thing is, the site is made form a mishmash of code that's been copied from several places so it could be there randomly as people who know coding look at the source and can see that there are bits of script that don't do anything or serve any purpose. |
Doomish
(OP) User ID: 8052347 United States 03/22/2014 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53341372 the marker goes to Alaska in general and not the specific spot, or so my thinking goes which is support by several valid arguments. There is another set of coordinates in the source code that points to a place out in the Atlantic ocean near the Mid Atlantic Ridge. This could be construed to be a reference to MAR 15 in one of the original hidden messages found on the countdown site. thing is, the site is made form a mishmash of code that's been copied from several places so it could be there randomly as people who know coding look at the source and can see that there are bits of script that don't do anything or serve any purpose. Well said. Trying to bring GLP together. I'm still collecting flags from posters all over the world. Thread: Official "Flags from around the world" thread. Hoping to get posts from all countries that frequent GLP. :gratefulsig: |
captain america User ID: 18944746 United States 03/22/2014 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are there and there is a high EMI coming from it They say it is making enough power to run Canada Alaska and the north slop the interview is from a chopper pilot and the 2nd one is from a tech's working at the base of it |
Doomish
(OP) User ID: 8052347 United States 03/22/2014 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again I will post this link Quoting: captain america 18944746 The locations match This is a pyramid working and emitting a signal The location matches with the pointer in the thread And someone has it locked it up See video for more information [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Captain America here is being a bit pushy, so I'll embed his video. Trying to bring GLP together. I'm still collecting flags from posters all over the world. Thread: Official "Flags from around the world" thread. Hoping to get posts from all countries that frequent GLP. :gratefulsig: |
Angel of Death
User ID: 46757222 United States 03/22/2014 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone tried zooming the map out and using the pin like a pointer for the letters seeing as if you drag the map when zoomed out the pin moves around and scrolling down and dragging map points to different letters it might spell something. |
°Lucy°
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°Lucy°
User ID: 55425014 Germany 03/22/2014 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone tried zooming the map out and using the pin like a pointer for the letters seeing as if you drag the map when zoomed out the pin moves around and scrolling down and dragging map points to different letters it might spell something. Quoting: Angel of Death you can only get the pin to the top part of the letters. I do think Alaska is a clue to decrypt the text... but how? To find the Alaska Pin you have to keep pressing the button on your mouse and drag... so maybe that is all the mystery behind the title? Title hinds at how to find the clue which helps you to decrypt the message? "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55622860 United States 03/22/2014 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The height of Mt. McKinley is 6194 Meters. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55622860 St. Lawrence Island is in between Russia and Alaska. Seaward Peninsula Gambell is on St. Lawrence. Just some things I noticed while looking at a map. No idea if these can help. AND THERE IS A PYRAMID 50 MILES NW OF MCKINLEY LOOK AT THE FUCKING VIDEO AND GET YOUR PROSPECTIVE CORRECT okay you fucking prick. All i'm doing is throwing things out there that could possibly be of use. JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE A FUCKING VIDEO, DOESN'T MEAN ITS FUCKING TRUE. I'm just doing my best to try to somehow light a spark that may be there. With that said, the closest CONFIRMED(as in 100% true) locations with that map marker are: Denali, Bearpaw Creek, and MT MCKINLEY. |
CynicallyJaded
User ID: 55881410 United States 03/22/2014 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we should start analyzing the letters more... maybe this does help. Quoting: °Lucy° here it shows some analytics of the letters [link to www.cryptool-online.org] been thinking on that translation again ( I used to have russian at school 6 years...cant remember much unfortunately :(( ) But the way its writing has a particular meaning, which isn't simply "You hold the key" If you like to say that, you just could type it in the translator in english and get: Vy derzhite klyuch. As you can see, the second and third words are different. To the way of the website title: Quoting: °Lucy° vy uderzhivayte klavishu vy - meaning "all of you" uderzhivayte - the word its coming from would be uderzh or uderzhivat' meaning: hold, deter, restrain, hold down, retain, deduct, withhold, maintain, refrain, detain, stop. hold back uderzhiva would mean retention klavishu - coming from the word klavisha meaning a key(s) as in a key you press the "u" ending is plural So the way it is all spelled does mean You have to keep holding down the keys (on keyboard?). It has nothing to do with a Key to open a door or so! Damned if I can't help but think now that these new letters might be the key to something else considering that the title of the page seems to be saying to all of us to hold on to what we have. I know others have suggested this being the key to Snowden's safe file or even some other archive. Interesting that keyboard keys is referenced rather than the unlocking kind of key. |
oopsiatemygoldfish
User ID: 52813313 United States 03/22/2014 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Must. Crack. Code. Water is 2 parts hydrogen & 1 part oxygen. What if someone says, "Well, that's not how I choose to think about water."? All we can do is appeal to scientific value. And if he doesn't share these values then the conversation is over. If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic? Never stop questioning. Xoxo. |
CynicallyJaded
User ID: 55881410 United States 03/22/2014 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone tried zooming the map out and using the pin like a pointer for the letters seeing as if you drag the map when zoomed out the pin moves around and scrolling down and dragging map points to different letters it might spell something. Quoting: Angel of Death you can only get the pin to the top part of the letters. I do think Alaska is a clue to decrypt the text... but how? To find the Alaska Pin you have to keep pressing the button on your mouse and drag... so maybe that is all the mystery behind the title? Title hinds at how to find the clue which helps you to decrypt the message? this makes much sense What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53341372 the marker goes to Alaska in general and not the specific spot, or so my thinking goes which is support by several valid arguments. There is another set of coordinates in the source code that points to a place out in the Atlantic ocean near the Mid Atlantic Ridge. This could be construed to be a reference to MAR 15 in one of the original hidden messages found on the countdown site. thing is, the site is made form a mishmash of code that's been copied from several places so it could be there randomly as people who know coding look at the source and can see that there are bits of script that don't do anything or serve any purpose. Well said. Thank you kind sir |
Louve
User ID: 55545812 United States 03/22/2014 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed! I've been playing with this for hours. In the back of my mind, I keep thinking that the site originally displayed the countdown and some text. Once the timer finished, it changed over to the current text. Nothing happened in the world that I am aware of that coincides with the timer...so what was the purpose? What is the relationship between the timer and the current code? "Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams, Telling myself it's not as hard, hard, hard as it seems." "see, that's there we differ. you can learn a lot more in the journey than in the destination." ~eekers "Benghazi. We remembered you". ~JypsieWind |
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Doomish
(OP) User ID: 8052347 United States 03/22/2014 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol. Ma'am. But you're welcome. Trying to bring GLP together. I'm still collecting flags from posters all over the world. Thread: Official "Flags from around the world" thread. Hoping to get posts from all countries that frequent GLP. :gratefulsig: |
LunaLove
User ID: 2787183 United States 03/22/2014 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Understanding the title makes it different. Holding down or pushing keys?! Ahhhhh it's making me mental. -------- You've fallen asleep in denial Look at the way we're dyin' How it ends I'll never know Just live your life blind like me--A7X |