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been thinking on that translation again ( I used to have russian at school 6 years...cant remember much unfortunately :(( ) But the way its writing has a particular meaning, which isn't simply "You hold the key" If you like to say that, you just could type it in the translator in english and get: Vy derzhite klyuch. As you can see, the second and third words are different. To the way of the website title:

vy uderzhivayte klavishu

vy - meaning "all of you"

uderzhivayte - the word its coming from would be uderzh or uderzhivat'

meaning:
hold, deter, restrain, hold down, retain, deduct, withhold, maintain, refrain, detain, stop. hold back

uderzhiva would mean retention

klavishu - coming from the word klavisha meaning a key(s) as in a key you press the "u" ending is plural
 Quoting: °Lucy°


You all restrain the button?
 Quoting: Doomish


Maybe more like "you have to keep holding down the keys" ?

It has nothing to do with a key as in key for opening a door or so. Why have to get away from that idea.

The "key" meant here is a key you can press, as a button or whatever. But also in plural!
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But if you just put in "you hold the key" in google translate from English to Russian, you get "Vy uderzhivayte klavishu." I'm guessing the word usage wasn't mysterious, it was lazy.
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Hold all keys mentioned? Hold all keys not mentioned? Press every key mentioned in the order it is displayed?
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Hold all keys mentioned? Hold all keys not mentioned? Press every key mentioned in the order it is displayed?
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lol, how? using fingers and toes? Maybe its time to play with that website again... lol
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been thinking on that translation again ( I used to have russian at school 6 years...cant remember much unfortunately :(( ) But the way its writing has a particular meaning, which isn't simply "You hold the key" If you like to say that, you just could type it in the translator in english and get: Vy derzhite klyuch. As you can see, the second and third words are different. To the way of the website title:

vy uderzhivayte klavishu

vy - meaning "all of you"

uderzhivayte - the word its coming from would be uderzh or uderzhivat'

meaning:
hold, deter, restrain, hold down, retain, deduct, withhold, maintain, refrain, detain, stop. hold back

uderzhiva would mean retention

klavishu - coming from the word klavisha meaning a key(s) as in a key you press the "u" ending is plural
 Quoting: °Lucy°


This is good thinking and very much in line of where my thoughts are veering.

I mentioned this to someone over at that other site who's a programmer and that agreed that the meaning could be construed along these lines. The problem is, according to them, there is no key capture events scripted on the webpage.

This also leads me to thinking that it isn't a simple word search. I also don't think anagrams come in to play as with this large of a group of letters, you could recreate almost any work of literature extant.

We have obviously incorrect form used in the title of the page with the added implication that the message itself is telling us more than the words being used.

One of the posts I saw on that other site had a break down comparing how often letters are commonly used in English vs how often letters appear in the grid of text.

Not sure if any of this helps, but I did want to get my thoughts where someone might be able to make use of them.
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The height of Mt. McKinley is 6194 Meters.

St. Lawrence Island is in between Russia and Alaska.

Seaward Peninsula

Gambell is on St. Lawrence.

Just some things I noticed while looking at a map. No idea if these can help.
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I think we should start analyzing the letters more... maybe this does help.

here it shows some analytics of the letters

[link to www.cryptool-online.org]
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This is good thinking and very much in line of where my thoughts are veering.

I mentioned this to someone over at that other site who's a programmer and that agreed that the meaning could be construed along these lines. The problem is, according to them, there is no key capture events scripted on the webpage.

This also leads me to thinking that it isn't a simple word search. I also don't think anagrams come in to play as with this large of a group of letters, you could recreate almost any work of literature extant.

We have obviously incorrect form used in the title of the page with the added implication that the message itself is telling us more than the words being used.

One of the posts I saw on that other site had a break down comparing how often letters are commonly used in English vs how often letters appear in the grid of text.

Not sure if any of this helps, but I did want to get my thoughts where someone might be able to make use of them.
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We should quote that post over here in this thread. I will see if I can find it
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Bolshaya Gora was the name of Mt. McKinley when it was under Russian ownership.
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What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag.
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This is good thinking and very much in line of where my thoughts are veering.

I mentioned this to someone over at that other site who's a programmer and that agreed that the meaning could be construed along these lines. The problem is, according to them, there is no key capture events scripted on the webpage.

This also leads me to thinking that it isn't a simple word search. I also don't think anagrams come in to play as with this large of a group of letters, you could recreate almost any work of literature extant.

We have obviously incorrect form used in the title of the page with the added implication that the message itself is telling us more than the words being used.

One of the posts I saw on that other site had a break down comparing how often letters are commonly used in English vs how often letters appear in the grid of text.

Not sure if any of this helps, but I did want to get my thoughts where someone might be able to make use of them.
 Quoting: CynicallyJaded


We should quote that post over here in this thread. I will see if I can find it
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Yeah. I remember it. I think a Dutch AC.
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I found it and can quote here:

Letter -Relative frequency in the English language
a 8.167%

b 1.492%

c 2.782%

d 4.253%

e 12.702%

f 2.228%

g 2.015%

h 6.094%

i 6.966%

j 0.153%

k 0.772%

l 4.025%

m 2.406%

n 6.749%

o 7.507%

p 1.929%

q 0.095%

r 5.987%

s 6.327%

t 9.056%

u 2.758%

v 0.978%

w 2.360%

x 0.150%

y 1.974%

z 0.074%

from [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag.
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We're not sure. It could relate to the HAARP location, the Alaska pyramid, the Alaska pipeline, or for a yet unknown reason, the entire state of Alaska.

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[link to www.cryptool-online.org]

Here a analysis on how often Letters were used, as well as combinations in the text

Nr. Histogram Bigram Trigram
1. D 28 5.6% BN 3 0.6% EJL 2 0.4%
2. L 26 5.2% DD 3 0.6% BEE 2 0.4%
3. F 24 4.8% ID 3 0.6% STL 2 0.4%
4. T 24 4.8% EN 3 0.6% ABN 2 0.4%
5. E 24 4.8% XX 3 0.6% RFA 1 0.2%
6. X 22 4.4% UW 3 0.6% RFM 1 0.2%
7. O 22 4.4% LR 3 0.6% REQ 1 0.2%
8. A 22 4.4% EA 3 0.6% RCU 1 0.2%
9. N 22 4.4% TG 3 0.6% REA 1 0.2%
10. W 22 4.4% QW 3 0.6% RGT 1 0.2%
11. U 21 4.2% CV 3 0.6% RHB 1 0.2%
12. R 20 4% FM 3 0.6% ROY 1 0.2%
13. J 19 3.8% FQ 3 0.6% QDW 1 0.2%
14. G 19 3.8% WK 3 0.6% RNG 1 0.2%
15. B 18 3.6% BE 3 0.6% RLJ 1 0.2%
16. C 18 3.6% QC 3 0.6% RJP 1 0.2%
17. V 17 3.4% DW 3 0.6% RLI 1 0.2%
18. Q 17 3.4% EJ 3 0.6% RCO 1 0.2%
19. K 16 3.2% ED 3 0.6% RCL 1 0.2%
20. H 15 3% AF 3 0.6% QOG 1 0.2%
21. Y 15 3% AD 3 0.6% QWI 1 0.2%
22. S 15 3% DS 3 0.6% QLD 1 0.2%
23. M 14 2.8% OV 3 0.6% QHG 1 0.2%
24. P 14 2.8% RC 3 0.6% QEM 1 0.2%
25. Z 13 2.6% JU 3 0.6% QGM 1 0.2%
26. I 13 2.6% ST 3 0.6% QWR 1 0.2%
27. LD 3 0.6% QWT 1 0.2%
28. ML 2 0.4% QZU 1 0.2%
29. TR 2 0.4% RTY 1 0.2%
30. EL 2 0.4% QYR 1 0.2%

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What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag.
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the marker goes to Alaska in general and not the specific spot, or so my thinking goes which is support by several valid arguments.

There is another set of coordinates in the source code that points to a place out in the Atlantic ocean near the Mid Atlantic Ridge. This could be construed to be a reference to MAR 15 in one of the original hidden messages found on the countdown site.

thing is, the site is made form a mishmash of code that's been copied from several places so it could be there randomly as people who know coding look at the source and can see that there are bits of script that don't do anything or serve any purpose.
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What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag.
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the marker goes to Alaska in general and not the specific spot, or so my thinking goes which is support by several valid arguments.

There is another set of coordinates in the source code that points to a place out in the Atlantic ocean near the Mid Atlantic Ridge. This could be construed to be a reference to MAR 15 in one of the original hidden messages found on the countdown site.

thing is, the site is made form a mishmash of code that's been copied from several places so it could be there randomly as people who know coding look at the source and can see that there are bits of script that don't do anything or serve any purpose.
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Well said.

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Its alive
People are there and there is a high EMI coming from it
They say it is making enough power to run Canada Alaska and the north slop
the interview is from a chopper pilot and the 2nd one is from a tech's working at the base of it
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Once again I will post this link
The locations match
This is a pyramid working and emitting a signal

The location matches with the pointer in the thread

And someone has it locked it up
See video for more information


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Captain America here is being a bit pushy, so I'll embed his video.


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Has anyone tried zooming the map out and using the pin like a pointer for the letters seeing as if you drag the map when zoomed out the pin moves around and scrolling down and dragging map points to different letters it might spell something.
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Is there any cipher connected to Alaska?

Since Alaska seems to be a clue and we have a code, maybe Alaska is hinting to the cipher?
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Your pointer is pointing to that
or so close its just strange
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If you look at the lower part of the pictures it gives the location numbers lon /lat
It plots out to your pointer
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Has anyone tried zooming the map out and using the pin like a pointer for the letters seeing as if you drag the map when zoomed out the pin moves around and scrolling down and dragging map points to different letters it might spell something.
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you can only get the pin to the top part of the letters. I do think Alaska is a clue to decrypt the text... but how?
To find the Alaska Pin you have to keep pressing the button on your mouse and drag... so maybe that is all the mystery behind the title?

Title hinds at how to find the clue which helps you to decrypt the message?
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The height of Mt. McKinley is 6194 Meters.

St. Lawrence Island is in between Russia and Alaska.

Seaward Peninsula

Gambell is on St. Lawrence.

Just some things I noticed while looking at a map. No idea if these can help.
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AND THERE IS A PYRAMID 50 MILES NW OF MCKINLEY

LOOK AT THE FUCKING VIDEO AND GET YOUR PROSPECTIVE CORRECT
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okay you fucking prick. All i'm doing is throwing things out there that could possibly be of use. JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE A FUCKING VIDEO, DOESN'T MEAN ITS FUCKING TRUE. I'm just doing my best to try to somehow light a spark that may be there.

With that said, the closest CONFIRMED(as in 100% true) locations with that map marker are: Denali, Bearpaw Creek, and MT MCKINLEY.
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I think we should start analyzing the letters more... maybe this does help.

here it shows some analytics of the letters

[link to www.cryptool-online.org]
 Quoting: °Lucy°


been thinking on that translation again ( I used to have russian at school 6 years...cant remember much unfortunately :(( ) But the way its writing has a particular meaning, which isn't simply "You hold the key" If you like to say that, you just could type it in the translator in english and get: Vy derzhite klyuch. As you can see, the second and third words are different. To the way of the website title:

vy uderzhivayte klavishu

vy - meaning "all of you"

uderzhivayte - the word its coming from would be uderzh or uderzhivat'

meaning:
hold, deter, restrain, hold down, retain, deduct, withhold, maintain, refrain, detain, stop. hold back

uderzhiva would mean retention

klavishu - coming from the word klavisha meaning a key(s) as in a key you press the "u" ending is plural

So the way it is all spelled does mean

You have to keep holding down the keys (on keyboard?).

It has nothing to do with a Key to open a door or so!
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Damned if I can't help but think now that these new letters might be the key to something else considering that the title of the page seems to be saying to all of us to hold on to what we have.

I know others have suggested this being the key to Snowden's safe file or even some other archive.

Interesting that keyboard keys is referenced rather than the unlocking kind of key.
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wall

Must.
Crack.
Code.
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Has anyone tried zooming the map out and using the pin like a pointer for the letters seeing as if you drag the map when zoomed out the pin moves around and scrolling down and dragging map points to different letters it might spell something.
 Quoting: Angel of Death


you can only get the pin to the top part of the letters. I do think Alaska is a clue to decrypt the text... but how?
To find the Alaska Pin you have to keep pressing the button on your mouse and drag... so maybe that is all the mystery behind the title?

Title hinds at how to find the clue which helps you to decrypt the message?
 Quoting: °Lucy°


this makes much sense

What does the map marker on Alaska mean? It's the only part of the map with a tag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53341372


the marker goes to Alaska in general and not the specific spot, or so my thinking goes which is support by several valid arguments.

There is another set of coordinates in the source code that points to a place out in the Atlantic ocean near the Mid Atlantic Ridge. This could be construed to be a reference to MAR 15 in one of the original hidden messages found on the countdown site.

thing is, the site is made form a mishmash of code that's been copied from several places so it could be there randomly as people who know coding look at the source and can see that there are bits of script that don't do anything or serve any purpose.
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Well said.

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Thank you kind sir
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wall

Must.
Crack.
Code.
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Agreed! I've been playing with this for hours.

In the back of my mind, I keep thinking that the site originally displayed the countdown and some text. Once the timer finished, it changed over to the current text. Nothing happened in the world that I am aware of that coincides with the timer...so what was the purpose? What is the relationship between the timer and the current code?
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FOFREADYFRVXXJHWJVDNTOLH

Ready for the untold!!!!!! Just look at this and you'll see it kinda says ready for the untold!!
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Thank you kind sir
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Lol. Ma'am.

But you're welcome.

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Understanding the title makes it different.
Holding down or pushing keys?!
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