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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55703922 France 03/18/2014 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly what does some obscure detail about a book whos most recurring and emphasized theme is destruction of everyone else important to its intended victim pool? Eventually people will see that its simply all about generating endless circulare confusion intent only on maintaining a fiction of one tribes authority and entitlement over the planet and its people with no objective source or corroboration. The old testament is just the first version of Mein Kampf claiming entitled socialists should have their way with everyone else. |
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(OP) User ID: 51020465 United States 03/18/2014 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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(OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/18/2014 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any idea why a book cited in the KJV would be omitted OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35404165 Thanks for your interesting threads by the way. 5 stars as always The holy oracles were not just books called a bible there were multiple scrolls of historic writings by prophets and teachers of Old. When all the nations who plundered Israel from babylon to the Roman empire they seized our books nad started translating them.They took out and altered in certain scriptures for one main purpose. These books later on through the centuries again was compliled into what we call a bible today with most of the historical books like jasher and jubilees and Enoch. The books they call forbidden like the apochrypha which is compilation of many other books was made taboo and illegal to be read. Growing up in south America my Abba will tell us the stories of the ppolice raids on their homes as little boys.The police will come to the village homes and take away the old books especially the Maccabees,They were beaten and thrown in prison Reason was to control the world and reprogram the enslaved into worshiping a whole new type of Christianity. THE SLAVES OF THE WORLD AT THE FOUR CORNERS AND THE POOR OF THE WORLD THE DOWN TRODDEN AND THE LOST,THESE ARE THE ONES THEY STRIPPED OF THEIR IDENTITY AND TODAY CARRY NAMES OF THEIR MASTERS AND THE CONQUISTADORS. It was Satans biggest plan to bring Gods people to nothing and the only way to achieve this was to take them away from their customs and true form of worship by taking away our books and bring us to nought. The earth has saved the woman by open up her mouth and sucking up the flood, we read in revelation1 what does that mean? The earth has revealed the scrolls as the father promised and now we are discovering the truth and discovering the changes made to the original writings and we are waking up Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/18/2014 04:40 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34290394 Puerto Rico 03/18/2014 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there any Prophetic vision parallel with Revelations in Jasher Book? I found a lot of prophecy for example in the Book of Enoch. Even you can sum all the prophecies or vision about the figure of Jesus in Isaiah and others and it will be just a few in comparison with the prophecies of Jesus in Enoch's Book. So if you have the verses tell me a few, specially if they are related to end of times. Thanks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373293 Canada 03/18/2014 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Musa (Moses) - The Story Moses and Al-Khidr Moses is Informed of a Wise Man One day, Moses delivered such an impressive sermon that all who heard it were deeply moved. Someone in the congregation asked: "0 Messenger of Allah, is there another man on earth more learned than you?" Moses replied: "No!", believing so, as Allah had given him the power of miracles and honored him with the Torah. However, Allah revealed to Moses that no man could know all there is to know, nor would one messenger alone be the custodian of all knowledge. There would always be another who knew what others did not. Moses asked Allah: "0 Allah, where is this man? I would like to meet him and learn from him." He also asked for a sign to this person's identity. Allah instructed him to take a live fish in a water-filled vessel. Where the fish disappeared, he would find the man he sought. Moses set out on his journey, accompanied by a young man who carried the vessel with the fish. They reached a place where two rivers met and decided to rest there. Instantly, Moses fell asleep. Moses Finds Al-Khidr While he was asleep, his companion saw the fish wriggle out of the vessel into the river and swim away. However, he forgot to relate this incident to Moses. When he awoke, they continued their journey until they were exhausted and hungry. Moses asked for his morning meal. Only then did his companion recall that the fish they had brought with them had gotten away. Hearing this, Moses exclaimed: 'This is exactly what we are seeking!" They hurriedly retraced their steps to the place where the rivers met and where the fish had jumped out. There they found a man, his face partly covered with a hood. His bearing showed he was a saintly man. He was Al-Khidr, the guide. Moses Finds Al-Khidr - Qur'anic Allah the Almighty narrated: And (remember) when Moses said to his boy-servant: "I will not give up (traveling) until I reach the junction of the two seas or (until) I spend years and years in traveling." But when they reached the junction of the two seas, they forgot their fish, and it took its way throught the sea as in a tunnel. So when they had passed further on (beyond that fixed place), Moses said to his boy-servant: "Bring us our morning meal; truly, we have suffered much fatigue in this, our journey." He said: "Do you remember when we betook ourselves to the ock? I indeed forgot the fish, none but Satan made me forget to remember it. It took its course into the sea in a strange (way)!" (Moses) said: "That is what we have been seeking." So they went back retracing their footsteps. Then they found one of Our slaves, unto whom We had bestowed mercy from Us, and whom We had taught knowledge from Us. Surah 18: 60-65 Moses Speaks to Al-Khidr Moses said to him (Khidr) "May I follow you so that you teach me something of that knowledge (guidance and true path) which you have been taught (by Allah)?" He (Khidr) said: "Verily! You will not be able to have patience with me! And how can you have patience about a thing which you know not?" Moses said: "If Allah will, you will find me patient, and I will not disobey you in aught." He (Khidr) said: "Then, if you follow me, ask me not about anything till I myself mention it to you. So they both proceeded, till, when they were in the ship, he (Khidr) scuttled it. Moses said: "Have you scuttled it in order to drown its people? Verily, you have done Imra - a Munkar (evil, bad, dreadful) thing." He (Khidr) said: "Did I not tell you, that you would not be able to have patience with me?" (Moses) said: "Call me not to account for what I forgot, and be not hard upon me for my affair (with you)." Then they both proceeded, till they met a boy, he (Khidr) killed him. Moses said: "Have you killed an innocent person who had killed none? Verily, you have done Nukra a great Munkar (prohibited, evil, dreadful) thing!" (Khidr) said: "Did I not tell you that you can have no patience with me?" (Moses) said: "If I ask you anything after this, keep me not in your company, you have received an excuse from me." Then they both proceeded, till, when they came to the people of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused to entertain them. Then they found therein a wall about to collapse and he (Khidr) set it up straight. (Moses) said: "If you had wished, surely you could have taken wages for it!" (Khidr) said: "This is the parting between me and you. I will tell you the interpretation of (those) things over which you were unable to hold patience. 'As for the ship, it belonged to poor people working in the sea. So I wished to make a defective damage in it, as there was a king after them who seized every ship by force. "And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared lest he should oppress them by rebellion and disbelief. So we intended that their Lord should change him for them for one better in righteousness and near to mercy. "And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the town; and there was under it a treasure belonging to them; and their father was a righteous man, and your Lord intended that they should attain their age of full strength and take out their treasure as a mercy from your Lord. And I did it not of my own accord. That is the interpretation of those (things) over which you could not hold patience. Surah 18: 60-82 Moses Seeks Al-Khidr - Hadith The story of Moses and Al-Khidr is also told in a hadith. Said Ibn Jubair said: "I said to Ibn Abbas, 'Nauf Al-Bukah claims that Moses, the companion of Al-Khidr, was not Moses (the prophet) of the children of Israel, but some other Moses.' Ibn Abbas said: 'Allah's enemy (i.e. Nauf) has told a lie. Ubai Ibn Kab told us that the Prophet said: Once Moses stood up and addressed Bani Israel. He was asked who was the most learned man amongst the people. He said: "I." Allah admonished him as he did not attribute absolute knowledge to Him (Allah). So, Allah said to him: 'Yes, at the junction of the two seas there is a slave of Mine who is more learned than you." Moses said: "0 my Lord! How can I meet him?" Allah said: "Take a fish and put it in a large basket and you will find him at the place where you will lose the fish." Moses took a fish and put it in a basket and proceeded along with his (servant) boy, Joshua (Yusha Ibn Nun), till they reached the rock where they laid their heads (i.e. lay down). Moses slept, and the fish, moving out of the basket, fell into the sea. It took its way into the sea (straight) as in a tunnel. Allah stopped the flow of water over the fish and it became like an arch (the Prophet pointed out this arch with his hands). They traveled the rest of the night, and the next day Moses said to his boy (servant): "Give us our food, for indeed, we have suffered much fatigue in this journey of ours." Moses did not feel tired till he crossed that place which Allah had ordered him to seek after. His boy (servant) said to him: "Do you know that when we were sitting near that rock, I forgot the fish, and none but Satan caused me to forget to tell (you) about it, and it took its course into the sea in an amazing way?" So there was a path for the fish and that astonished them. Moses said: 'That was what we were seeking after." So both of them retraced their footsteps till they reached the rock. There they saw a man lying covered with a garment. Moses Talks to Al-Khidr Moses greeted him, and he replied saying: "How do people greet each other in your land?" Moses said: "I am Moses." The man asked: "Moses of Bani Israel?" Moses said: 'Yes, I have come to you so that you may teach me from those things which Allah has taught you." He said: "0 Moses! I have some of the knowledge of Allah which Allah has taught me and which you do not know, while you have some of the knowledge of Allah which Allah has taught you and which I do not know." Moses asked: "May I follow you?" He said: "But you will not be able to remain patient with me, for how can you be patient about things which you will not be able to understand?" Moses said: 'You will find me, if Allah so will, truly patient, and I will not disobey you in aught." So both of them set out walking along the sea-shore. A boat passed by them, and they asked the crew of the boat to take them on board. The crew recognized Al-Khidr, so they took them on board without fare. When they were on board the boat, a sparrow came and stood on the edge of the boat and dipped its beak once or twice into the sea. Al-Khidr said to Moses: "0 Moses! My knowledge and your knowledge have not decreased Allah's knowledge except as much as this sparrow has decreased the water of the sea with its beak." Then suddenly Al-Khidr took an adze and pulled up a plank, and Moses did not notice it till he had pulled up a plank with the adze. Moses said to him: "What have you done? They took us on board charging us nothing; yet you have intentionally made a hole in their boat so as to drown its passengers. Verily, you have done a dreadful thing." AlKhidr replied: "Did I not tell you that you would not be able to remain patient with me?" Moses replied: "Do not blame me for what I have forgotten, and do not be hard upon me for my fault." So the first excuse of Moses was that he had forgotten. When they had left the sea, they passed by a boy playing with other boys. Al-Khidr took hold of the boy's head and plucked it with his hand like this. (Sufyan, the sub-narrator gestured with his fingertips as if he were plucking some fruit.) Moses said to him: "Have you killed an innocent person who has not killed any person? You have really done a horrible thing." Al-Khidr said: "Did I not tell you that you could not remain patient with me?" Moses said: "If I ask you about anything after this, don't accompany me. You have received an excuse from me." Then both of them went on till they came to some people of a village, and they asked its inhabitants for food but they refused to entertain them as guests. Then they saw therein a wall which was just going to collapse and Al Khidr repaired it just by touching it with his hands. (Sufyan, the subnarrator, gestured with his hands, illustrating how Al-Khidr passed his hands over the wall upwards.) Moses said: "These are the people whom we have called on, but they neither gave us food, nor entertained us as guests, yet you have repaired their wall. If you had wished, you could have taken wages for it." Al-Khidr said: "This is the parting between you and me, and I shall tell you the explanation of those things on which you could not remain patient." The Prophet added: "We wish that Moses could have remained patient by virtue of which Allah might have told us more about their story." (Sufyan, the sub-narrator, said that the Prophet said: "May Allah bestow His Mercy on Moses! If he had remained patient, we would have been told further about their case.")' |
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(OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/18/2014 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there any Prophetic vision parallel with Revelations in Jasher Book? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34290394 I found a lot of prophecy for example in the Book of Enoch. Even you can sum all the prophecies or vision about the figure of Jesus in Isaiah and others and it will be just a few in comparison with the prophecies of Jesus in Enoch's Book. So if you have the verses tell me a few, specially if they are related to end of times. Thanks! jasher is more of a historic and geographic account of the kings and peoples of those times 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41528251 United States 03/18/2014 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The book of Jasher is not the name of a person or a prophet but ye'shar meaning the book of the upright.I believe ministers deliberately don't mention these things because of the wealth knowledge that will turn Modern day false Christianity upside down Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Where is the Proof of said authenticity? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12377722 Philippines 03/18/2014 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The book of Jasher is not the name of a person or a prophet but ye'shar meaning the book of the upright.I believe ministers deliberately don't mention these things because of the wealth knowledge that will turn Modern day false Christianity upside down Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Where is the Proof of said authenticity? Jasher is real. The Book(s) being palmed off as the Book of Jasher are steaming piles that do a great job of tearing down actual scripture if one has so little discernment as to give them any credence. |
anonymous coward User ID: 8895674 United States 03/18/2014 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any idea why a book cited in the KJV would be omitted OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35404165 Thanks for your interesting threads by the way. 5 stars as always The holy oracles were not just books called a bible there were multiple scrolls of historic writings by prophets and teachers of Old. When all the nations who plundered Israel from babylon to the Roman empire they seized our books nad started translating them.They took out and altered in certain scriptures for one main purpose. These books later on through the centuries again was compliled into what we call a bible today with most of the historical books like jasher and jubilees and Enoch. The books they call forbidden like the apochrypha which is compilation of many other books was made taboo and illegal to be read. Growing up in south America my Abba will tell us the stories of the ppolice raids on their homes as little boys.The police will come to the village homes and take away the old books especially the Maccabees,They were beaten and thrown in prison Reason was to control the world and reprogram the enslaved into worshiping a whole new type of Christianity. THE SLAVES OF THE WORLD AT THE FOUR CORNERS AND THE POOR OF THE WORLD THE DOWN TRODDEN AND THE LOST,THESE ARE THE ONES THEY STRIPPED OF THEIR IDENTITY AND TODAY CARRY NAMES OF THEIR MASTERS AND THE CONQUISTADORS. It was Satans biggest plan to bring Gods people to nothing and the only way to achieve this was to take them away from their customs and true form of worship by taking away our books and bring us to nought. The earth has saved the woman by open up her mouth and sucking up the flood, we read in revelation1 what does that mean? The earth has revealed the scrolls as the father promised and now we are discovering the truth and discovering the changes made to the original writings and we are waking up It was God's plan for divine providence and every family has been uplifted to a better station than when they were savages. All of the aboriginal races were heathen cannibals. That includes your neck of the woods--South America. With exception of the meek, docile Ande Mountains Peruvians who had to FLEE all the cannibalistic human sacrificing AZTECS and their ilk, and perhaps a few (FEW) other meek tribes such as the Zunis and MAYBE the Hopis, the majority of those Aboriginals were wretched and feared by the meek ones. PS: The descendants of the Hebrew Maccabbees family are alive and well. You should be thankful you got to receive the divine 'books' and 'revelations' courtesy of the Hebrew navigators and captains of ships. Before that you were afraid and in constant terror of like-minded HEATHEN NATIONS who pursued the more gentle and peacful Native Tribes. I saw an Apache girl one time who looked like an untamed werewolf. That's rude to say, but she was totally acclimated into the White Man's world and doing alright. Some of those ancient Indian Tribes were the most FIERCESOME BLOOD LUSTING, CRUEL, VICIOUS, and IGNORANT peoples on the face of the earth...don't try to twist it! |
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(OP) User ID: 47570834 United States 03/19/2014 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any idea why a book cited in the KJV would be omitted OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35404165 Thanks for your interesting threads by the way. 5 stars as always The holy oracles were not just books called a bible there were multiple scrolls of historic writings by prophets and teachers of Old. When all the nations who plundered Israel from babylon to the Roman empire they seized our books nad started translating them.They took out and altered in certain scriptures for one main purpose. These books later on through the centuries again was compliled into what we call a bible today with most of the historical books like jasher and jubilees and Enoch. The books they call forbidden like the apochrypha which is compilation of many other books was made taboo and illegal to be read. Growing up in south America my Abba will tell us the stories of the ppolice raids on their homes as little boys.The police will come to the village homes and take away the old books especially the Maccabees,They were beaten and thrown in prison Reason was to control the world and reprogram the enslaved into worshiping a whole new type of Christianity. THE SLAVES OF THE WORLD AT THE FOUR CORNERS AND THE POOR OF THE WORLD THE DOWN TRODDEN AND THE LOST,THESE ARE THE ONES THEY STRIPPED OF THEIR IDENTITY AND TODAY CARRY NAMES OF THEIR MASTERS AND THE CONQUISTADORS. It was Satans biggest plan to bring Gods people to nothing and the only way to achieve this was to take them away from their customs and true form of worship by taking away our books and bring us to nought. The earth has saved the woman by open up her mouth and sucking up the flood, we read in revelation1 what does that mean? The earth has revealed the scrolls as the father promised and now we are discovering the truth and discovering the changes made to the original writings and we are waking up It was God's plan for divine providence and every family has been uplifted to a better station than when they were savages. All of the aboriginal races were heathen cannibals. That includes your neck of the woods--South America. With exception of the meek, docile Ande Mountains Peruvians who had to FLEE all the cannibalistic human sacrificing AZTECS and their ilk, and perhaps a few (FEW) other meek tribes such as the Zunis and MAYBE the Hopis, the majority of those Aboriginals were wretched and feared by the meek ones. PS: The descendants of the Hebrew Maccabbees family are alive and well. You should be thankful you got to receive the divine 'books' and 'revelations' courtesy of the Hebrew navigators and captains of ships. Before that you were afraid and in constant terror of like-minded HEATHEN NATIONS who pursued the more gentle and peacful Native Tribes. I saw an Apache girl one time who looked like an untamed werewolf. That's rude to say, but she was totally acclimated into the White Man's world and doing alright. Some of those ancient Indian Tribes were the most FIERCESOME BLOOD LUSTING, CRUEL, VICIOUS, and IGNORANT peoples on the face of the earth...don't try to twist it! and the wicked will be judged for every idle word and hard speech against the Most High and his people And as the scripture is true we will be the byword of every nation a hidden people Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 03/19/2014 09:22 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |