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How Wolves Change Rivers

 
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When wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park in the United States after being absent nearly 70 years, the most remarkable "trophic cascade" occurred. What is a trophic cascade and how exactly do wolves change rivers?




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This is why balance in the ecosystem is so vitally important......

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As long as humans have no natural predator.. save themselves, small victories like this won't be everlasting.

Very interesting video, just got me thinking that for some reason.
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Amazing how complex an ecosystem is. Would be a nicer vid if Elk weren't shown when talking about deer. And, was that a skunk, or a badger? Vid said badger.
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went for 10 years to YSNP watched them mate in Feb and summer in evening you can go top of hill and watch them in evening gather in Lamar Valley thank for this

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Thanks for posting!

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This is an execellent pro-wolf video. It really shows how devestating deer and elk can be to important vegetation. I have always thought that re-introducing wolves was a good idea. But, there are always positive and negative effects to such processes, especially with cattle/sheep ranchers having the biggest problem with the wolves.
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went for 10 years to YSNP watched them mate in Feb and summer in evening you can go top of hill and watch them in evening gather in Lamar Valley thank for this

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I once stood face to face with one in MT we just stood for few minutes and then he ran off , very Spiritual and in Glacier saw a White one , I have gone 6 years of not touching beef because in Mt if they kill a cow they kill whole pack rant
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went for 10 years to YSNP watched them mate in Feb and summer in evening you can go top of hill and watch them in evening gather in Lamar Valley thank for this

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I once stood face to face with one in MT we just stood for few minutes and then he ran off , very Spiritual and in Glacier saw a White one , I have gone 6 years of not touching beef because in Mt if they kill a cow they kill whole pack rant
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I also met a man he wrote a book about it will see if I can find, his plane crashed in Idaho , and each night a pack of wolves came and protected him from Bears till he was rescued , all God's creatures are great
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This is why balance in the ecosystem is so vitally important......
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Yes! It's sad to see our oceans ecosystems out of wack.
Just think what the world would be like if all things were done with good intentions and well thought out by people that cared. The World would be so far advanced and would be a utopia for all.

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This is an execellent pro-wolf video. It really shows how devestating deer and elk can be to important vegetation. I have always thought that re-introducing wolves was a good idea. But, there are always positive and negative effects to such processes, especially with cattle/sheep ranchers having the biggest problem with the wolves.
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also what you do not hear about is how healthy the Elk population became because the take down the weak and sick , the reason hunter complain , now the Elk hide more
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Now that we agree on how this Video is so important to see....

Let's not change the good vibes of the Thread, but please, do some research on fracking, oil sands, and pipelines.

How fragile this beauty.
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cool vid

thanks op
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How interesting. I didn't realize they had that kind of impact on their environment.

Now just imagine if WE were removed/introduced to an environment, how much our being affects the surrounding system. Maybe that's what's going on here right now. A grand experiment to see what we can do in/to a naturally balanced environment.

If so, the results will not turn out in favor of us, I fear. We seem to do nothing but damage given any opportunity. Even unwittingly, we still jack shit up.
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This is why balance in the ecosystem is so vitally important......
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Yes! It's sad to see our oceans ecosystems out of wack.
Just think what the world would be like if all things were done with good intentions and well thought out by people that cared. The World would be so far advanced and would be a utopia for all.

No corruption, No wars...
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Stability of the ecosystem and the banks wouldn't cave in and erode as much. Sinkholes any relevance?
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As long as humans have no natural predator.. save themselves, small victories like this won't be everlasting.

Very interesting video, just got me thinking that for some reason.
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Cool thread OP, ty!
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There's a song, by a British folk singer called Chris Wood, called "The Wolfless Years", which was apparently inspired by this. Annoyingly the song doesn't seem to be on youtube else I'd embed it.
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Very, very cool! Thanks so much for sharing this!
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A wonderful thread!
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There's a song, by a British folk singer called Chris Wood, called "The Wolfless Years", which was apparently inspired by this. Annoyingly the song doesn't seem to be on youtube else I'd embed it.
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Sounds to me like we need to kill all the deer and eat them asap.
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amazing
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Excellent thread.

Nature is so complex. It's important never to lose sight of how our interactions impact ecosystems. There's such a disconnect these days between humans and nature; it's saddening.
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When wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park in the United States after being absent nearly 70 years, the most remarkable "trophic cascade" occurred. What is a trophic cascade and how exactly do wolves change rivers?




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very good, godly, in a non religious sense.
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Brilliant, thanks for posting.

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