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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


propoganda




Looks like old news that came out BEFORE the EXTREME drought you are now experiencing.

The fish California needs to be frying is the weather manipulation that has stalled the high pressure system off the coast for months until very recently.

I wouldn't worry about the farmers. This drought is coming to your house.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
•California’s water storage and transportation system designed by federal and state governments includes 1,200 miles of canals and nearly 50 reservoirs that provide water to about 22 million people and irrigate about four million acres of land throughout the state.

In May 2007, a Federal District Court Judge ruled that increased amounts of water had to be re-allocated towards protecting the Delta smelt – a three-inch fish on the Endangered Species List.

Because of this ruling, in 2009 and 2010 more than 300 billion gallons (or 1 million acre-feet) of water were diverted away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay – eventually going out into the Pacific Ocean.
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Is Nestle backing this?
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I grew up on a farm. I've lived most of my adult life on a ranch. It's not just California. Farmers and large cities are emptying rivers, aquifers, and lakes at an alarming rate. So, it's better to let the farmers take it all and dry up large swaths of land and then nobody can live there? Much of the western portion of the US will be screwed in the decades to come if we don't do something about this issue.
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Sorry, this situation is not about fish, liberals, conservatives, environment, or anything else.

It's about Malignant Psychopaths -Vs- Science, Statistics, Historical Records, and unregulated, profit oriented, growth or "Blastoma".
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


propoganda




Looks like old news that came out BEFORE the EXTREME drought you are now experiencing.

The fish California needs to be frying is the weather manipulation that has stalled the high pressure system off the coast for months until very recently.

I wouldn't worry about the farmers. This drought is coming to your house.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
•California’s water storage and transportation system designed by federal and state governments includes 1,200 miles of canals and nearly 50 reservoirs that provide water to about 22 million people and irrigate about four million acres of land throughout the state.

In May 2007, a Federal District Court Judge ruled that increased amounts of water had to be re-allocated towards protecting the Delta smelt – a three-inch fish on the Endangered Species List.

Because of this ruling, in 2009 and 2010 more than 300 billion gallons (or 1 million acre-feet) of water were diverted away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay – eventually going out into the Pacific Ocean.
 Quoting: BG-fan 38564222


It was an old ruling..

But recently they tried to allow some farmers to use the water and the dems wouldn't allow it.

That's the new part to the story.
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I bet all the mansions in Hollywood hills will still have nice green lawns!
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Sorry - I know you will try to fillet me (no pun intended), but I have to side with the fish.

Water is scarce out there - especially in this drought. That's a chance you take when farming. Why does their right to farm take precedence over a species right to live?

We've destroyed enough of our environment due to the progress of manufacturing and farming. Sometimes you have to put your foot down.
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I just have one question to ask you:

Where do you think the food you eat comes from?

The grocery store.... Right....

It's not about the right to farm, it is about the need to provide food for the citizens of the US.

Out there, you say. That tells me you are posting from the other side of the country, and know little about the true state of things out here.


You bitch about manufacturing and farming. Well, your misguided policies have sent manufacturing packing, and I warn you, that if you do the same with farming, that you, your friends, your neighbors, your employeer and your family will suffer.

Our food supply is nothing to be trifled with.

But people like you will trifle with it anyway.

If only I could see your face as food price triple again...
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


propoganda




Looks like old news that came out BEFORE the EXTREME drought you are now experiencing.

The fish California needs to be frying is the weather manipulation that has stalled the high pressure system off the coast for months until very recently.

I wouldn't worry about the farmers. This drought is coming to your house.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
•California’s water storage and transportation system designed by federal and state governments includes 1,200 miles of canals and nearly 50 reservoirs that provide water to about 22 million people and irrigate about four million acres of land throughout the state.

In May 2007, a Federal District Court Judge ruled that increased amounts of water had to be re-allocated towards protecting the Delta smelt – a three-inch fish on the Endangered Species List.

Because of this ruling, in 2009 and 2010 more than 300 billion gallons (or 1 million acre-feet) of water were diverted away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay – eventually going out into the Pacific Ocean.
 Quoting: BG-fan 38564222


It was an old ruling..

But recently they tried to allow some farmers to use the water and the dems wouldn't allow it.

That's the new part to the story.
 Quoting: *Evan


Isn't January the "watershed" month for CA? When you're out of water I'm pretty sure the fish are the first ones to get rationed. After that, I guess it's up to the legislators or gov to see who gets rationed next, farmers or households or both. I doubt it's really about the fish anymore ... good luck !!
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Ok, ok
but what fish is saying about it?
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The fish says "Are you idiots crazy, we don't even need all that water."
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Could they not just put these fishes in an aquarium until the drought is over? Then you have win-win, lil fish survives and the crops can grow.
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I bet all the mansions in Hollywood hills will still have nice green lawns!
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Well green lawns are more important than crops.
Don't you know as some people say on this forum you can live on just air and sunlight ;)
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Someone should go take pictures of all the Californian politicians lawns after this. I bet they are all nice and green and will continue to be that way.
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Any sane individual who chooses to remain in socialist
states such as California or the northeast deserves
whatever they get.

I don't feel a bit sorry for them.

It is not like there is a Berlin Wall they have to scale
to escape. Vote with your feet, like I did and take all
of your wealth and experience to a free state.
By staying you are SUPPORTING brain-dead left-wing
insanity.
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Good all farmers in CA are either mobbed up old italian families or giant agra- neither of which should get welfare water on taxpayers dimes- fuck'em abd let'em rot

THIS IS THE GOOD PART OF AGenda 21 my neegas! Rejoice!
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divide and conquer? why is it "dems" instead of just politicians? they all belong to the PONY EXPRESS. no matter who the politician is or what horse they are riding, they keep going toward their intended destination of a New World Order.

every politician is against the average Joe.

that's just the way that things are.
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I say dems because the conservatives in the state are trying to get some of that water released to the farmers, and the dems blocked the measure.
 Quoting: *Evan


That's lies because it's the Federal Governmet causing it.

www.acwa.com/news/delta/water-supplies-curtailed-once-again-p​rotect-delta-smelt

The State Water Project and the federal Central Valley Project have been operating under pumping restrictions since December, when federal agencies ordered curtailments after 90 smelt were entrained at pumps in the South Delta. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service ordered further restrictions on Feb. 8 as the number of smelt salvaged at the pumps approached the number allowed as incidental “take” by the projects’ operations.

State "Dems" have not a fucking thing to do about it.
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divide and conquer? why is it "dems" instead of just politicians? they all belong to the PONY EXPRESS. no matter who the politician is or what horse they are riding, they keep going toward their intended destination of a New World Order.

every politician is against the average Joe.

that's just the way that things are.
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I say dems because the conservatives in the state are trying to get some of that water released to the farmers, and the dems blocked the measure.
 Quoting: *Evan


Dems are all Bolsheviks now.
Gonna get ugly.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Escape from what?
I'll give you 80k reasons why I stay.

Extremely rural lifestyle, more than most on GLP.

Fifteen year house, $1150 mo. payment.

Generally prepped, not fanatical about it.

I vote conservative, Yet, you and I both know that doesn't amount to much in Cali.


Here for now and hunkered down!





Any sane individual who chooses to remain in socialist
states such as California or the northeast deserves
whatever they get.

I don't feel a bit sorry for them.

It is not like there is a Berlin Wall they have to scale
to escape. Vote with your feet, like I did and take all
of your wealth and experience to a free state.
By staying you are SUPPORTING brain-dead left-wing
insanity.
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The People get the government they deserve.
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do they? how many laws were on the books before you were born? how many laws have you created? what politician contacted you before they voted for a law? how many politicians even know that you exist?

if you don't obey the laws that you never created, will somebody use force against you for not obeying? if you use force back, will your life ever be the same again? are you prepared for that?
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You're not thinking.

Either through consent or cooperation, all the People deserve what is happening.
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Re: Dems In California Take 300 Billion Gallons Or Water Away From Farmers In A Drought, To Protect A Fish...
How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


useless eaters, those families want to destroy the fish, useless humans

7 billion of useless bastards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53839270


Sorry - I know you will try to fillet me (no pun intended), but I have to side with the fish.

Water is scarce out there - especially in this drought. That's a chance you take when farming. Why does their right to farm take precedence over a species right to live?

We've destroyed enough of our environment due to the progress of manufacturing and farming. Sometimes you have to put your foot down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45485322


How much money would it cost to round up a bunch of them fish and put them in a hatchery? Problem solved, fish saved, farmers get water. Oh, shucks, I forgot about AGENDAS.
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I bet all the mansions in Hollywood hills will still have nice green lawns!
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"I hold that the more helpless a
creature, the more entitled it is to
protection by man from the
cruelty of man." - Mahatma
Gandhi

Far too many tatted up useless eaters in the world that only care about themselves, when the EBT card reloads and what's on the next episode of Real Trash of Beverly Hills, Swamp Trash, Dancing with Trash or Keeping up with Trash. Useless eaters that can't even provide for themselves let alone their children that other tax paying citizens must provide for. Useless eaters that would rather sit on their asses smoking a bowl than grow up, give it up and get a real job.

Having said that, we did steal land, er, relocate Native Americans, is this not an option to even look at?

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I certainly don't want to go back to the days of lynching or tar and feathers, but it seems like it got the voters of yore a lot a more respect from their representatives.
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Good all farmers in CA are either mobbed up old italian families or giant agra- neither of which should get welfare water on taxpayers dimes- fuck'em abd let'em rot

THIS IS THE GOOD PART OF AGenda 21 my neegas! Rejoice!
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That first sentence it's a huge sign you're waving that says "I know nothing about the topic at hand"

It is blatantly false.
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come on down to Texas.
Conservative voters here just approved prop 6.
Which was a two billion dollar project to make sure Texas residents have water.
We approved it because it comes out of the state "slush" fund. We will be able to basically guarantee our water supply for the next 50 years after research is done.

We were able to do this because we are a Red State with fiscal responsibility.

We don't have to worry about our water being used to save a few fucking fish.
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come on down to Texas.
Conservative voters here just approved prop 6.
Which was a two billion dollar project to make sure Texas residents have water.
We approved it because it comes out of the state "slush" fund. We will be able to basically guarantee our water supply for the next 50 years after research is done.

We were able to do this because we are a Red State with fiscal responsibility.

We don't have to worry about our water being used to save a few fucking fish.
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you live in a fucking desert..... get used to it....or get your own water like the settlers used too

water is more precious than gold...no water=no life
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.

crazyjak
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you live in a fucking desert..... get used to it....or get your own water like the settlers used too

water is more precious than gold...no water=no life
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.

crazyjak
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Yes, yes it is.
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I'm sure the fish is happy about it.
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I'm sure the fish is happy about it.
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Fish don't smile
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

 Quoting: *Evan


kitty It makes sense to me. fish

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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


propoganda




Looks like old news that came out BEFORE the EXTREME drought you are now experiencing.

The fish California needs to be frying is the weather manipulation that has stalled the high pressure system off the coast for months until very recently.

I wouldn't worry about the farmers. This drought is coming to your house.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
•California’s water storage and transportation system designed by federal and state governments includes 1,200 miles of canals and nearly 50 reservoirs that provide water to about 22 million people and irrigate about four million acres of land throughout the state.

In May 2007, a Federal District Court Judge ruled that increased amounts of water had to be re-allocated towards protecting the Delta smelt – a three-inch fish on the Endangered Species List.

Because of this ruling, in 2009 and 2010 more than 300 billion gallons (or 1 million acre-feet) of water were diverted away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay – eventually going out into the Pacific Ocean.
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Bingo





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