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Dems In California Take 300 Billion Gallons Or Water Away From Farmers In A Drought, To Protect A Fish...

 
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Please define "farmer" because factory slaughterhouses and meat processing plants seem to get lumped in as farms which IMO they definitely are not. All throughout this dry spell the MSM has been describing it this way too never mentioning the wasteful water practices of the meat and dairy industry. Scaring us into thinking farms haven't enough water without presenting all the facts. Then you hear on tv and radio telling restaurants to hold off on giving glasses of water to their customers. Ridiculous.
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
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useless eaters, those families want to destroy the fish, useless humans

7 billion of useless bastards
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lol right.
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Please define "farmer" because factory slaughterhouses and meat processing plants seem to get lumped in as farms which IMO they definitely are not. All throughout this dry spell the MSM has been describing it this way too never mentioning the wasteful water practices of the meat and dairy industry. Scaring us into thinking farms haven't enough water without presenting all the facts. Then you hear on tv and radio telling restaurants to hold off on giving glasses of water to their customers. Ridiculous.
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You're an idiot. I work with farmers everyday. Real farmers. They are hurting, more than you obviously care or know.

California has more farmers than most other states, if not more than all others.
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Please define "farmer" because factory slaughterhouses and meat processing plants seem to get lumped in as farms which IMO they definitely are not. All throughout this dry spell the MSM has been describing it this way too never mentioning the wasteful water practices of the meat and dairy industry. Scaring us into thinking farms haven't enough water without presenting all the facts. Then you hear on tv and radio telling restaurants to hold off on giving glasses of water to their customers. Ridiculous.
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You're an idiot. I work with farmers everyday. Real farmers. They are hurting, more than you obviously care or know.

California has more farmers than most other states, if not more than all others.
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Agenda 21 at work.
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Evan I agree with you. I agree with you. I was just pointing something out is all. Maybe this wasn't the right thread for my sentiment but at some point it needs to be said.
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Sounds like something Stalin did... starved millions to death.

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Agenda 21 at work.
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Sounds like something Stalin did... starved millions to death.

:sowell33:
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That's just what they said its for. That shit went to China.
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divide and conquer? why is it "dems" instead of just politicians? they all belong to the PONY EXPRESS. no matter who the politician is or what horse they are riding, they keep going toward their intended destination of a New World Order.

every politician is against the average Joe.

that's just the way that things are.
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I say dems because the conservatives in the state are trying to get some of that water released to the farmers, and the dems blocked the measure.
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I respectfully disagree. the "conservatives" are part of the same high school drama club and they are acting out their parts like any Hollywood actor.

tell us about all of the laws that the "conservatives" reversed when they were in power. if they didn't reverse any, that proves that every law has the approval of every politician.

nothing changes.
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You don't live in California do you?
 Quoting: *Evan


was that your answer to my point about "conservatives" reversing laws? if so, I need more information. what laws have been reversed by either party once they are in power?
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That's just what they said its for. That shit went to China.
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hmm...maybe, but this law was passed back in 09....they are just now refusing to give the farmers some of the water now during the droubt.

I'm not saying your assesment is impossible, I just haven't seen evidence of that.
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This is to show that californian lives are worth less than a 2 inch fish.. Lmao how did this even happen. Govt is rubbing their power in ur face
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It's pretty ridiculous. I mean, we can all care for the wildlife, but to risk human life and livelyhood over this fish is plane insanity.
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Evan, this is not the first time. California has waged war against their farmers for decades now, using the endangered species act as their most formidable weapon.

Here is one from 2009:

Government shuts off water to California farms in controversial effort to help threatened species

Thursday, August 13, 2009
United States

A farming town in California claims that it may disappear due to the United States federal government shutting off water pumps, though the government states the actions are necessary to save several marine species.

In July 2009, action by the Federal Bureau of Reclamation to protect threatened fish stopped irrigation pumping to parts of the California Central Valley causing canals leading into Huron, California and the surrounding areas and the farms that rely on them to lose their primary irrigation source. Unemployment has reached 40% in some areas as the farms have dried up.

[link to en.wikinews.org]

They will take the entire country down to get their own statist regime installed.
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I say dems because the conservatives in the state are trying to get some of that water released to the farmers, and the dems blocked the measure.
 Quoting: *Evan


I respectfully disagree. the "conservatives" are part of the same high school drama club and they are acting out their parts like any Hollywood actor.

tell us about all of the laws that the "conservatives" reversed when they were in power. if they didn't reverse any, that proves that every law has the approval of every politician.

nothing changes.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7423823


You don't live in California do you?
 Quoting: *Evan


was that your answer to my point about "conservatives" reversing laws? if so, I need more information. what laws have been reversed by either party once they are in power?
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It wasn't an answer to anything, just an obvious assmesment...thought that was clear..
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This is to show that californian lives are worth less than a 2 inch fish.. Lmao how did this even happen. Govt is rubbing their power in ur face
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52118459


It's pretty ridiculous. I mean, we can all care for the wildlife, but to risk human life and livelyhood over this fish is plane insanity.
 Quoting: *Evan


Evan, this is not the first time. California has waged war against their farmers for decades now, using the endangered species act as their most formidable weapon.

Here is one from 2009:

Government shuts off water to California farms in controversial effort to help threatened species

Thursday, August 13, 2009
United States

A farming town in California claims that it may disappear due to the United States federal government shutting off water pumps, though the government states the actions are necessary to save several marine species.

In July 2009, action by the Federal Bureau of Reclamation to protect threatened fish stopped irrigation pumping to parts of the California Central Valley causing canals leading into Huron, California and the surrounding areas and the farms that rely on them to lose their primary irrigation source. Unemployment has reached 40% in some areas as the farms have dried up.

[link to en.wikinews.org]

They will take the entire country down to get their own statist regime installed.
 Quoting: waterlily


That's the issue I'm talking about, now that we are in a drought, the dems are refusing to allow farmers access to this water.
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This is the kind of lunacy that results from worshiping the creation instead of the Creator.
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I respectfully disagree. the "conservatives" are part of the same high school drama club and they are acting out their parts like any Hollywood actor.

tell us about all of the laws that the "conservatives" reversed when they were in power. if they didn't reverse any, that proves that every law has the approval of every politician.

nothing changes.
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7423823


You don't live in California do you?
 Quoting: *Evan


was that your answer to my point about "conservatives" reversing laws? if so, I need more information. what laws have been reversed by either party once they are in power?
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It wasn't an answer to anything, just an obvious assmesment...thought that was clear..
 Quoting: *Evan


so we can agree that none of the politicians EVER reverse laws that were created by the previous controlling party.

that proves that they are ALL working TOGETHER against the average Joe, no matter what they say. they are just bad actors.

thanks.
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This is AGENDA 21 at work, 100%. They want to restrict our movement and corral us into big cities. This is only the beginning. You think they can't make it rain in California? HAARP. DESTROYING crops, skyrocketing food prices, water wars, all apart of the plan to take down America.
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You don't live in California do you?
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was that your answer to my point about "conservatives" reversing laws? if so, I need more information. what laws have been reversed by either party once they are in power?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7423823


It wasn't an answer to anything, just an obvious assmesment...thought that was clear..
 Quoting: *Evan


so we can agree that none of the politicians EVER reverse laws that were created by the previous controlling party.

that proves that they are ALL working TOGETHER against the average Joe, no matter what they say. they are just bad actors.

thanks.
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Except for the fact that this is purely a libtarded policy.....that california is ran buy libtards.....and besides Detroit, is the perfect example of libtarded policies over a period of time.
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... yep ... CA has been referred to as the land of the "fruits and nuts" ...
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... sane folks should leave CA ...
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I did, it has been about 3 years. FREE at last, FREE at last...
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was that your answer to my point about "conservatives" reversing laws? if so, I need more information. what laws have been reversed by either party once they are in power?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7423823


It wasn't an answer to anything, just an obvious assmesment...thought that was clear..
 Quoting: *Evan


so we can agree that none of the politicians EVER reverse laws that were created by the previous controlling party.

that proves that they are ALL working TOGETHER against the average Joe, no matter what they say. they are just bad actors.

thanks.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7423823


Except for the fact that this is purely a libtarded policy.....that california is ran buy libtards.....and besides Detroit, is the perfect example of libtarded policies over a period of time.
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I never accept a "divide and conquer" argument except for this one. The ruling power structure in EVERY country has CONSPIRED with every other country's ruling power structure against the rest of the world.

There is THEM against everyone else on the planet.

I have more in common with the "average Joe" in every country than I do with the ruling power structure in America. The "average Joe" in every country is NOT trying to harm me, while the USA govt calls me their enemy.

I am on the side of the "average Joe" everywhere.

I reject the ENTIRE USA power structure. They have called me their enemy and I believe them.
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This is a disinformation story perpetrated by the Malignant Psychopath.

These creatures have a collective Death Wish for the planet.

The creatures WANT that water for themselves, they don't care if it's the last drop of water on the entire planet.

The creatures have a form of Obsessive Compulsive disorder that leaves them caustically taking, taking, and taking, more, and more, and more for themselves.

With ZERO regard for the long term consequences of their behavior.

A person MUST study the pathology, and vectors of the Psychopath to understand what is happening in the world?
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they need to follow the lead of heartland florida in the push for irrigation free sustainable agriculture
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


"This is insane" is the short definition of Democrat.


On the other hand, and I don't mean to kick a guy when he is down... The people's access to water should take a priority over one tiny fish, but for all the beautiful lush green places in California, the San Joaquin Valley is actually a desert. The huge populations in Southern California and major parts of Arizona and Nevada are only made possible by artificially pumping water from other far away places. Eventually the demand just outstrips nature.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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How insane can you get?

We are in the middle of the worst drought in our history, and dems are keeping 300 billion gallons of water from farmers to help protect a little 3 inch long fish in the Delta.

This is insane.

You can care about the environment and wildlife without being an evil loon. Choosing the life of a few fish over the lively hoods of millions of hardworking people.

[link to naturalresources.house.gov]
 Quoting: *Evan


"This is insane" is the short definition of Democrat.


On the other hand, and I don't mean to kick a guy when he is down... The people's access to water should take a priority over one tiny fish, but for all the beautiful lush green places in California, the San Joaquin Valley is actually a desert. The huge populations in Southern California and major parts of Arizona and Nevada are only made possible by artificially pumping water from other far away places. Eventually the demand just outstrips nature.
 Quoting: Resister


Very true
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Water will be the go-to control mechanism of the future. You can survive without a lot, but not water.

That said, I don't know what the end game is here. They can't possibly be this stupid...can they?
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We are talking Fienstein here....
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And Pelosi...Boxer, et al
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Water will be the go-to control mechanism of the future. You can survive without a lot, but not water.

That said, I don't know what the end game is here. They can't possibly be this stupid...can they?
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We are talking Fienstein here....
 Quoting: *Evan


And Pelosi...Boxer, et al
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yupp96
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The central valley produces 80% of our produce. Tomato's green peppers, strawberry's, lettuce, but hell those idiots in CA have been stealing water for the fish for years, nothing really new here. In Oregon the Klamath Indians made up an imaginary ceremonial fish the "sucker" fish.. this happened in 1986 <about time the Indians became tools for the environmentalists> farming around the basin was devastated.> lies all lies, its Agenda 21 and how to control the population.
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maybe itis about time to use our own resources for our own land.

Much of that "farmers' water" is being shipped out of our nation, having first been sucked up by food (grain etc.) that is sold outside of our nation for profit.

Plus: are those "farmers" farmers or are they Corporate Society that has legally stolen farmers' land under duress?

We The People often have to give up our water for Corporate Society's inhuman, maga "farms", so that they can make an inhuman, maga profit by shipping our water, via the product they grow, to over seas.
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