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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bump! "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Changed my title because think this advice will be better before an economic crisis hits, rather than when. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 02/01/2014 02:13 PM "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53436031 Canada 02/01/2014 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53673037 United States 02/01/2014 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt. oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver! |
Alabamabombshell:) User ID: 39216289 United States 02/01/2014 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we are talking the worst case scenario I don't think money will have any value over food, clothing and protection. Personally, I think those who have their homes paid off will fair better than those who don't. You may want to buy things to barter like alcohol, chocolate, cigarettes but again that is at its worse which I don't think will happen too very soon or at least I hope. |
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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt. oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver! If you can score merc dimes even better. But the majority of people will not have silver or gold and will still need something for money. If the economic crisis hits and the dollar crashes, sure at first a dollar coin versus a paper dollar will suffer the same. But as the crisis wears on coined based money will likely will gain value over its paper counter part simply because there are more paper dollars in its face value than coins in circulation. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53436031 Canada 02/01/2014 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt. oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver! lol Again not disagreeing, but how many people do you think can access any of these coins pre 1976? Referring of course to the Eisenhowers. Im sure most of them are gone by now, there arent that many surplus' of them. |
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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh cool! Thank for the pin! "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43642585 Canada 02/01/2014 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles). I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand). if SHTF i am prepared and ready. |
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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nexus-9 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt. oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver! lol Again not disagreeing, but how many people do you think can access any of these coins pre 1976? Referring of course to the Eisenhowers. Im sure most of them are gone by now, there arent that many surplus' of them. That's exactly my point! There's more out there in paper currency than coined based currency. So, paper base currency over time will be valued less than coined based currency. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43642585 Canada 02/01/2014 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031 Where do you buy physical silver? I know where to get those minted coins....but do banks have silver, too? Banks sell, coins, bars, and rather large kilo bars. Take my bank as an example. I ask for "1oz silver bar" these cost around 18 bucks plus the 3 dollar fee for them to have it shipped to the bank (they dont keep 1oz bars in the vault as they are worth so little to do so.) |
Alabamabombshell:) User ID: 39216289 United States 02/01/2014 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43642585 I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand). if SHTF i am prepared and ready. Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43642585 Canada 02/01/2014 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43642585 I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand). if SHTF i am prepared and ready. Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area) As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg). The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening) |
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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43642585 I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand). if SHTF i am prepared and ready. Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area) As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg). The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening) That is very sadly true. Inflation is measured by both rising incomes and rising prices. Because incomes have not risen, while prices continue to rise, the Federal Reserve does not consider our economy under inflationary duress and keeps interest rates low. This allows other banks and corporations access to "cheap" money to buy goods and services first at lower prices so by the time it trickles down to wage earners those prices have increased. That is not capitalism. Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 02/01/2014 02:44 PM "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35597183 United States 02/01/2014 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43642585 I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand). if SHTF i am prepared and ready. Clueless. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43642585 Canada 02/01/2014 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43642585 I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand). if SHTF i am prepared and ready. Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area) As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg). The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening) That is very sadly true. Inflation is measured by both rising incomes and rising prices. Because incomes have not risen, while prices continue to rise, the Federal Reserve does not consider our economy under inflationary duress and keeps interest rates low. This allows other banks and corporations access to "cheap" money to buy goods and services first at lower prices so by the time it trickles down to wage earners those prices have increased. That is not capitalism. Your situation sounds identical to how the Bank of Canada runs stuff up here. Harper basically is their figurehead and a good liar at that to keep the people under his little thumb. I might have fought in Afganistan (and done some regretable things) but i will never at all allow a CO to tell me to do a single thing agaisnt the citizens of this country police them or otherwise. I defend the country not its leaders. |
Alabamabombshell:) User ID: 39216289 United States 02/01/2014 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43642585 I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand). if SHTF i am prepared and ready. Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area) As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg). The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening) Thank you for answering. What I am waiting for is the snap benefits to cease. Then I would high tail it outta here because my town is pretty poor. |
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User ID: 25512425 United States 02/01/2014 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Buy "junk" (pre 1964) silver. It's 90% silver. Who is John Galt? |
middle class poopface User ID: 2178546 United States 02/01/2014 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU LIFE IS GAMBLE LIKE THE STOCK MARKET EVERY DESICION AND MOVE YOU MAKE SLOWLY EFFECTS YOUR FUTURE YOU SAVE HOW YOU WANT, CASH MONEY, DIGITAL MONEY, STOCKS(would it be considered money?) YOU WAIT FOR BUYING OPPORTUNITIES like crhistmas, easter, Halloween you check, you bet, and you have to know when to go all in |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18032786 United States 02/01/2014 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never understood the idea of buying gold, silver or anything...money means shit. When the SHTF you can't eat it... I'd rather take that $10-20 a week and get my pantry stocked and set up some fuel, maybe ammo, maybe a HAM radio...the stuff that will really count when the chips are down. Fuck money and coins... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43642585 Canada 02/01/2014 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never understood the idea of buying gold, silver or anything...money means shit. When the SHTF you can't eat it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18032786 I'd rather take that $10-20 a week and get my pantry stocked and set up some fuel, maybe ammo, maybe a HAM radio...the stuff that will really count when the chips are down. Fuck money and coins... The idea is never to get to the point of needing survival. Also that HAM radio would be something i would not be taking (they can be tracked). Your ammo and food and fuel are good things but be ready to ditch your weapons (they can be combersome when moving from place to place) and heavy gear as basically in survival you take only what you need. |
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User ID: 25512425 United States 02/01/2014 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nexus-9 True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver. You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days. Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt. oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver! lol Again not disagreeing, but how many people do you think can access any of these coins pre 1976? Referring of course to the Eisenhowers. Im sure most of them are gone by now, there arent that many surplus' of them. I buy junk all the time. Gave my son 3 lbs of mercury dimes for a wedding present. Who is John Galt? |
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(OP) User ID: 16911207 United States 02/01/2014 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I never understood the idea of buying gold, silver or anything...money means shit. When the SHTF you can't eat it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18032786 I'd rather take that $10-20 a week and get my pantry stocked and set up some fuel, maybe ammo, maybe a HAM radio...the stuff that will really count when the chips are down. Fuck money and coins... Should always have some sort of money. I recommend coins. Because, you can't always stock up on everything you will need. Even if you don't consider money having value someone else will and will take your money in exchange for something. That is human nature. I would include maybe one-hundred dollars in $1 coins as part of a survival cache. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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User ID: 25512425 United States 02/01/2014 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU SAVE MONEY Quoting: middle class poopface 2178546 YOU LIFE IS GAMBLE LIKE THE STOCK MARKET EVERY DESICION AND MOVE YOU MAKE SLOWLY EFFECTS YOUR FUTURE YOU SAVE HOW YOU WANT, CASH MONEY, DIGITAL MONEY, STOCKS(would it be considered money?) YOU WAIT FOR BUYING OPPORTUNITIES like crhistmas, easter, Halloween you check, you bet, and you have to know when to go all in I give silver eagles for wedding and graduation presents. Who is John Galt? |