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You're a struggling middle-class slave, but what to do before the economic crisis hits?

 
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You're a struggling middle-class slave, but what to do before the economic crisis hits?
Hello GLP'ers. I've thought about this question because I'm like many here who likely can be described by the title of this thread, a struggling middle-class slave, and what to do to prepare at best should the economic crash happen.

Here's is the best I can think of, and maybe others can post any better ideas.

Say, you live check-to-check. You don't have enough to buy gold and you don't have enough to buy silver. But if you can afford to set aside $20 USD maybe even $10 a week, there still might be hope as late as the game is. I only wish I thought of this earlier and posted it here for others.

First of all there are economic indicators, rumors and news that the domination of the US dollar as a world reserve currency is near the end. But nonetheless, no matter how devalued our dollar is or will become (i.e. worthless) people will still need something to serve as money to buy the goods that may still be available.

Here is what I believe you can do to still prepare. Get US dollar minted coins. That's right. Start exchanging those paper base Federal Reserve Notes for at least $1 dollar coins, be it Eisenhowers, Susan B's, Sacagawean's (my favorite) even those lousy presidential coins. Start exchanging for Kennedy Halves and if necessary the lesser coins.

Here's my reasoning. A US minted coin says nothing on it that would associate itself to the crooked central banking thieves that have been stealing from the US public since 1913 (i.e. you pay your taxes to pay interest to the Federal Reserve for our government to borrow its own money). When the dollar crashes I think slowly but for sure there will be a separation of value from the paper based currency to the coined based currency in peoples minds. I think over time, if there is no economic recovery to happen soon enough, people will begin to value more the coin base currency from the paper based one. I can see folks having a distain for anything with "Federal Reserve" written on it and perhaps even two prices for the same goods, say eggs for 8 coined US dollars while one would have to pay $21 with the paper based Fed Note.

As a matter of fact you can see some of this happening today, where the coined based money is valued more than the paper dollar. If you go to the US mint it will cost you slightly more in paper dollars (or credit) to buy the same coined money having an equal face value, and every year prices are rising.

But you don't have to buy from the US mint to exchange your Fed Notes for coins and start saving. You can go to the banks (for now) and ask for any $1 coined denominated money, or try to get your change in coins when you shop at stores.

Now why would this make more sense in most American minds? Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution states the US Congress will "Coin Money" (presumably with metal), and nothing about the Federal Reserve, an organization based on private banks, to "Print Money" (with paper).

So, I consider coined money as sovereign money for the United States per the Constitution.

Anyway, there's still some time, and at best if there is no economic crisis, you will have hopefully made a tidy savings.

I hope this makes sense to ya'll

hf

P.S. a pin and some stars would be nice if you think this is good advice!

Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 02/01/2014 02:05 PM
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

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"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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bump!
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

"Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge"

"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Changed my title because think this advice will be better before an economic crisis hits, rather than when.
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

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"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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Best just to get in line for the FEMA camp early!
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.

Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 02/01/2014 02:13 PM
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

"Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge"

"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.
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Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt.
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.
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Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt.
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oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver!
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If we are talking the worst case scenario I don't think money will have any value over food, clothing and protection. Personally, I think those who have their homes paid off will fair better than those who don't. You may want to buy things to barter like alcohol, chocolate, cigarettes but again that is at its worse which I don't think will happen too very soon or at least I hope.
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031


oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver!
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If you can score merc dimes even better. But the majority of people will not have silver or gold and will still need something for money.

If the economic crisis hits and the dollar crashes, sure at first a dollar coin versus a paper dollar will suffer the same. But as the crisis wears on coined based money will likely will gain value over its paper counter part simply because there are more paper dollars in its face value than coins in circulation.
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

"Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge"

"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031


oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver!
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lol Again not disagreeing, but how many people do you think can access any of these coins pre 1976? Referring of course to the Eisenhowers. Im sure most of them are gone by now, there arent that many surplus' of them.
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Oh cool! Thank for the pin!

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Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

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"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles).

I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand).

if SHTF i am prepared and ready.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.
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Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53436031


oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver!
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lol Again not disagreeing, but how many people do you think can access any of these coins pre 1976? Referring of course to the Eisenhowers. Im sure most of them are gone by now, there arent that many surplus' of them.
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That's exactly my point! There's more out there in paper currency than coined based currency. So, paper base currency over time will be valued less than coined based currency.
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

"Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge"

"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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Where do you buy physical silver? I know where to get those minted coins....but do banks have silver, too?
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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Where do you buy physical silver? I know where to get those minted coins....but do banks have silver, too?
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Banks sell, coins, bars, and rather large kilo bars. Take my bank as an example. I ask for "1oz silver bar" these cost around 18 bucks plus the 3 dollar fee for them to have it shipped to the bank (they dont keep 1oz bars in the vault as they are worth so little to do so.)
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Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles).

I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand).

if SHTF i am prepared and ready.
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Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area)
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When you invariably resort to strong-armed robbery to make ends meet, as most of you will, have the decency to mug a banker instead of your fellow humans.
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Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles).

I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand).

if SHTF i am prepared and ready.
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Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area)
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As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg).

The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening)
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Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles).

I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand).

if SHTF i am prepared and ready.
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Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area)
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As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg).

The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening)
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That is very sadly true. Inflation is measured by both rising incomes and rising prices. Because incomes have not risen, while prices continue to rise, the Federal Reserve does not consider our economy under inflationary duress and keeps interest rates low.

This allows other banks and corporations access to "cheap" money to buy goods and services first at lower prices so by the time it trickles down to wage earners those prices have increased.

That is not capitalism.

Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 02/01/2014 02:44 PM
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

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"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Best just to get in line for the FEMA camp early!
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lmao
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Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles).

I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand).

if SHTF i am prepared and ready.
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Clueless.
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Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles).

I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand).

if SHTF i am prepared and ready.
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Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area)
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As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg).

The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43642585


That is very sadly true. Inflation is measured by both rising incomes and rising prices. Because incomes have not risen, while prices continue to rise, the Federal Reserve does not consider our economy under inflationary duress and keeps interest rates low.

This allows other banks and corporations access to "cheap" money to buy goods and services first at lower prices so by the time it trickles down to wage earners those prices have increased.

That is not capitalism.
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Your situation sounds identical to how the Bank of Canada runs stuff up here. Harper basically is their figurehead and a good liar at that to keep the people under his little thumb.

I might have fought in Afganistan (and done some regretable things) but i will never at all allow a CO to tell me to do a single thing agaisnt the citizens of this country police them or otherwise.

I defend the country not its leaders.
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Former soldier. Ready to vanish like a ghost at the first sign of the crsis. Backpack stocked with MRE's and can of beans as well pure water filter and hand pump (to filter water for bottles).

I can also hunt and track very well (was taught that in Afganistan to follow foot prints in the sand).

if SHTF i am prepared and ready.
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Do you live in a city? Why would you leave your home? What circumstances would have to happen for you to leave? Not trying to be invasise so only answer what you want. I live in the boonies. I do know of some hideouts if need be but I would like others input on what would make you leave. ( obviously I am not talking about a catastrophe in your area)
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As soon as i see the economy start to fall, i will sell all my assests and vanish because i know if it starts to fall hard (sort of like it is now but worse of course) then there will be no way for me to survive the comming problems when food prices rise and wages fall once again (lets just say my city is basically a powder keg).

The country will basically fall the second the capital cannot convience the people to accept less and work more (to which is slowly happening)
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Thank you for answering. What I am waiting for is the snap benefits to cease. Then I would high tail it outta here because my town is pretty poor.
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Not a bad idea, but if you have 20 bucks a week, that could get you an oz of silver as of current.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.
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Buy "junk" (pre 1964) silver. It's 90% silver.
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YOU SAVE MONEY

YOU LIFE IS GAMBLE LIKE THE STOCK MARKET EVERY DESICION AND MOVE YOU MAKE SLOWLY EFFECTS YOUR FUTURE

YOU SAVE HOW YOU WANT, CASH MONEY, DIGITAL MONEY, STOCKS(would it be considered money?)

YOU WAIT FOR BUYING OPPORTUNITIES

like crhistmas, easter, Halloween

you check, you bet, and you have to know when to go all in
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I never understood the idea of buying gold, silver or anything...money means shit. When the SHTF you can't eat it...

I'd rather take that $10-20 a week and get my pantry stocked and set up some fuel, maybe ammo, maybe a HAM radio...the stuff that will really count when the chips are down. Fuck money and coins...
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I never understood the idea of buying gold, silver or anything...money means shit. When the SHTF you can't eat it...

I'd rather take that $10-20 a week and get my pantry stocked and set up some fuel, maybe ammo, maybe a HAM radio...the stuff that will really count when the chips are down. Fuck money and coins...
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The idea is never to get to the point of needing survival. Also that HAM radio would be something i would not be taking (they can be tracked). Your ammo and food and fuel are good things but be ready to ditch your weapons (they can be combersome when moving from place to place) and heavy gear as basically in survival you take only what you need.
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True, but folks who live paycheck-to-paycheck, who buy silver would likely experience a short term loss in their investment if they had to liquidate for an emergency, by selling back some silver.

You would not have that loss with regular coined money that is saved, and a few dollars can make all the difference these days.
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Not disagreeing, just if the economic crisis hits, all thoses printed coins and dollars will be worthless. Whether a 1 dollar coin or 1 dollar bill, bankrupt is bankrupt.
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oh not so those mercury dimes are worth almost 4 dollars a piece in silver!
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lol Again not disagreeing, but how many people do you think can access any of these coins pre 1976? Referring of course to the Eisenhowers. Im sure most of them are gone by now, there arent that many surplus' of them.
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I buy junk all the time. Gave my son 3 lbs of mercury dimes for a wedding present.
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Re: You're a struggling middle-class slave, but what to do before the economic crisis hits?
I never understood the idea of buying gold, silver or anything...money means shit. When the SHTF you can't eat it...

I'd rather take that $10-20 a week and get my pantry stocked and set up some fuel, maybe ammo, maybe a HAM radio...the stuff that will really count when the chips are down. Fuck money and coins...
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Should always have some sort of money. I recommend coins. Because, you can't always stock up on everything you will need. Even if you don't consider money having value someone else will and will take your money in exchange for something.

That is human nature.

I would include maybe one-hundred dollars in $1 coins as part of a survival cache.
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Re: You're a struggling middle-class slave, but what to do before the economic crisis hits?
YOU SAVE MONEY

YOU LIFE IS GAMBLE LIKE THE STOCK MARKET EVERY DESICION AND MOVE YOU MAKE SLOWLY EFFECTS YOUR FUTURE

YOU SAVE HOW YOU WANT, CASH MONEY, DIGITAL MONEY, STOCKS(would it be considered money?)

YOU WAIT FOR BUYING OPPORTUNITIES

like crhistmas, easter, Halloween

you check, you bet, and you have to know when to go all in
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I give silver eagles for wedding and graduation presents.
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