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furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Indians say the Big Man exists in two worlds. I think, maybe this--- as we are a body with a spirit, perhaps they are a spirit with a body "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Merlin's Mom
User ID: 27073052 United States 01/23/2014 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah! Not being that familiar with animal research, I have never seen that term. Habituation.... Habituation.... I'm memorizing it Like that Jane Goodall who lived with the gorillas? More like the other way around. I'll try my best. It's the humans that live in very remote area. If the food is plentiful (farms of any kind, goats, deer, etc), bigfoot family will make a home in the wild close to the human's home/farm just because there are food nearby that can be easily obtained. Humans may suspect something is going on but not realize its bigfoot. Most likely, young bigfoot ones will interact with young human kids. Funny thing is that Jane Goodall believed that bigfoot exists. The hardest part is trying to track down bigfoot family. They seem to be very well aware of us trying to find them... they leave a lot of signs, they communicate but so many people are clueless, until they have an experience and then just freak out My "freak out" was the second encounter in 9/2002, when I awakened to a horrible stench and something sniffing my face. Long story, but definitely freaky when you are by yourself in a wilderness and something bigger than a grizzly is stalking you in the dark. It was intelligent, stealthy, and could see in the dark. I realize now that if it wanted to hurt me, it had every opportunity, but I was unscathed (physically, not psychologically). I think it was just curious. I wish I had obtained the 911 tapes about this episode. Found out they only keep them a few years. Sooooooo. ........ I have outed myself and shared, furPete'sSake. What is your story? |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: waterlily Ah! Not being that familiar with animal research, I have never seen that term. Habituation.... Habituation.... I'm memorizing it Like that Jane Goodall who lived with the gorillas? More like the other way around. I'll try my best. It's the humans that live in very remote area. If the food is plentiful (farms of any kind, goats, deer, etc), bigfoot family will make a home in the wild close to the human's home/farm just because there are food nearby that can be easily obtained. Humans may suspect something is going on but not realize its bigfoot. Most likely, young bigfoot ones will interact with young human kids. Funny thing is that Jane Goodall believed that bigfoot exists. The hardest part is trying to track down bigfoot family. They seem to be very well aware of us trying to find them... they leave a lot of signs, they communicate but so many people are clueless, until they have an experience and then just freak out My "freak out" was the second encounter in 9/2002, when I awakened to a horrible stench and something sniffing my face. Long story, but definitely freaky when you are by yourself in a wilderness and something bigger than a grizzly is stalking you in the dark. It was intelligent, stealthy, and could see in the dark. I realize now that if it wanted to hurt me, it had every opportunity, but I was unscathed (physically, not psychologically). I think it was just curious. I wish I had obtained the 911 tapes about this episode. Found out they only keep them a few years. Sooooooo. ........ I have outed myself and shared, furPete'sSake. What is your story? mine came up to see the horse in the middle of the day "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was a juvenile, but the dog alerted me to it. It had come up the ravine behind the barn. It was 7 feet tall, thin as a tree, all black. It was a classic "stick Indian" of these parts "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Merlin's Mom
User ID: 27073052 United States 01/23/2014 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was a juvenile, but the dog alerted me to it. It had come up the ravine behind the barn. It was 7 feet tall, thin as a tree, all black. It was a classic "stick Indian" of these parts Quoting: furPete'sSake I think they are very curious. They also have a very peculiar gait that a human would have great difficulty imitating. And they are fast! My last encounter in 2007, looked like what you describe above. It was taller than the roof of my husband's truck and was bent over looking in the passenger side window when I walked up on it. I stood there open mouthed and it froze. Then a loud noise to my left (I presume another one) startled me and I took my eyes off the first one. It zipped across the road, flew up a bank, and into a curtain of greenbriar - all within 20 feet of where I stood. Then total silence, like they just disappeared. I should have been able to see them. He acted like the thorny vines were not even there. So weird! I ran to the truck and locked myself inside until my husband returned from his jog. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States 01/23/2014 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was a juvenile, but the dog alerted me to it. It had come up the ravine behind the barn. It was 7 feet tall, thin as a tree, all black. It was a classic "stick Indian" of these parts Quoting: furPete'sSake I think they are very curious. They also have a very peculiar gait that a human would have great difficulty imitating. And they are fast! My last encounter in 2007, looked like what you describe above. It was taller than the roof of my husband's truck and was bent over looking in the passenger side window when I walked up on it. I stood there open mouthed and it froze. Then a loud noise to my left (I presume another one) startled me and I took my eyes off the first one. It zipped across the road, flew up a bank, and into a curtain of greenbriar - all within 20 feet of where I stood. Then total silence, like they just disappeared. I should have been able to see them. He acted like the thorny vines were not even there. So weird! I ran to the truck and locked myself inside until my husband returned from his jog. Yeah, the young ones seem to be very curious and most likely to pull pranks on humans. |
Merlin's Mom
User ID: 27073052 United States 01/23/2014 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was a juvenile, but the dog alerted me to it. It had come up the ravine behind the barn. It was 7 feet tall, thin as a tree, all black. It was a classic "stick Indian" of these parts Quoting: furPete'sSake I think they are very curious. They also have a very peculiar gait that a human would have great difficulty imitating. And they are fast! My last encounter in 2007, looked like what you describe above. It was taller than the roof of my husband's truck and was bent over looking in the passenger side window when I walked up on it. I stood there open mouthed and it froze. Then a loud noise to my left (I presume another one) startled me and I took my eyes off the first one. It zipped across the road, flew up a bank, and into a curtain of greenbriar - all within 20 feet of where I stood. Then total silence, like they just disappeared. I should have been able to see them. He acted like the thorny vines were not even there. So weird! I ran to the truck and locked myself inside until my husband returned from his jog. Yeah, the young ones seem to be very curious and most likely to pull pranks on humans. And so AR, will you tell your story? I suspect you have one to tell. |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was a juvenile, but the dog alerted me to it. It had come up the ravine behind the barn. It was 7 feet tall, thin as a tree, all black. It was a classic "stick Indian" of these parts Quoting: furPete'sSake I think they are very curious. They also have a very peculiar gait that a human would have great difficulty imitating. And they are fast! My last encounter in 2007, looked like what you describe above. It was taller than the roof of my husband's truck and was bent over looking in the passenger side window when I walked up on it. I stood there open mouthed and it froze. Then a loud noise to my left (I presume another one) startled me and I took my eyes off the first one. It zipped across the road, flew up a bank, and into a curtain of greenbriar - all within 20 feet of where I stood. Then total silence, like they just disappeared. I should have been able to see them. He acted like the thorny vines were not even there. So weird! I ran to the truck and locked myself inside until my husband returned from his jog. Yes, the horse had only been there one day when this happened. Apparently new animals in their territory intrigues them. My dog was barking, but also wagging her tail, which is why I don't think it was in any way a threat. I have asked the locals and this area has a long , but quiet, knowledge of them, they just don't talk about it, and like them, the last thing I'd ever do is invite some "researchers" over. You can tell , once you've seen one run, who is lying and who isn't. You are telling the truth. The only reason that "Patty" didn't run, in the Patterson footage, was because of the injury to her leg "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mine whistle "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States 01/23/2014 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was a juvenile, but the dog alerted me to it. It had come up the ravine behind the barn. It was 7 feet tall, thin as a tree, all black. It was a classic "stick Indian" of these parts Quoting: furPete'sSake I think they are very curious. They also have a very peculiar gait that a human would have great difficulty imitating. And they are fast! My last encounter in 2007, looked like what you describe above. It was taller than the roof of my husband's truck and was bent over looking in the passenger side window when I walked up on it. I stood there open mouthed and it froze. Then a loud noise to my left (I presume another one) startled me and I took my eyes off the first one. It zipped across the road, flew up a bank, and into a curtain of greenbriar - all within 20 feet of where I stood. Then total silence, like they just disappeared. I should have been able to see them. He acted like the thorny vines were not even there. So weird! I ran to the truck and locked myself inside until my husband returned from his jog. Yeah, the young ones seem to be very curious and most likely to pull pranks on humans. And so AR, will you tell your story? I suspect you have one to tell. Actually, I don't have one to tell. It's just something I learned when I did research on bigfoot. I used to think it was all BS then someone brought up Meldrum. I know one or two thing about human body movement (my college degree) so that caught my attention on how they walk differently than human. Strangely, my father in law believes in Bigfoot but I didn't know that for 8 years till I brought it up with my wife a couple years ago. Funny... You should see his bookcases full of bigfoot, UFO, etc that will go well on GLP. I just never knew that he was into that stuff. |
Merlin's Mom
User ID: 27073052 United States 01/23/2014 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it was a juvenile, but the dog alerted me to it. It had come up the ravine behind the barn. It was 7 feet tall, thin as a tree, all black. It was a classic "stick Indian" of these parts Quoting: furPete'sSake I think they are very curious. They also have a very peculiar gait that a human would have great difficulty imitating. And they are fast! My last encounter in 2007, looked like what you describe above. It was taller than the roof of my husband's truck and was bent over looking in the passenger side window when I walked up on it. I stood there open mouthed and it froze. Then a loud noise to my left (I presume another one) startled me and I took my eyes off the first one. It zipped across the road, flew up a bank, and into a curtain of greenbriar - all within 20 feet of where I stood. Then total silence, like they just disappeared. I should have been able to see them. He acted like the thorny vines were not even there. So weird! I ran to the truck and locked myself inside until my husband returned from his jog. Yes, the horse had only been there one day when this happened. Apparently new animals in their territory intrigues them. My dog was barking, but also wagging her tail, which is why I don't think it was in any way a threat. I have asked the locals and this area has a long , but quiet, knowledge of them, they just don't talk about it, and like them, the last thing I'd ever do is invite some "researchers" over. You can tell , once you've seen one run, who is lying and who isn't. You are telling the truth. The only reason that "Patty" didn't run, in the Patterson footage, was because of the injury to her leg To even imitate the run, I have to hunch my shoulders up to my ears, bend over 45 degrees at the waist, and run EXTREMELY fast with my knees high stepping almost up to my chest. Very awkward, if not impossible for a human. And the torso is very long compared to a human. Plus, it had no clothes, just dark fur. All this together was kinda a clue that it wasn't an extra tall, lanky human teen sprinter :) Yeah, you can see the bulge in "Patty's" leg. I've always wondered if she was pregnant. Some speculate that she had a youngun over in the woods where she was headed, but she could have been pregnant with her next one. |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | like on a bicycle and very fluid "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Merlin's Mom
User ID: 27073052 United States 01/23/2014 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Merlin's Mom I think they are very curious. They also have a very peculiar gait that a human would have great difficulty imitating. And they are fast! My last encounter in 2007, looked like what you describe above. It was taller than the roof of my husband's truck and was bent over looking in the passenger side window when I walked up on it. I stood there open mouthed and it froze. Then a loud noise to my left (I presume another one) startled me and I took my eyes off the first one. It zipped across the road, flew up a bank, and into a curtain of greenbriar - all within 20 feet of where I stood. Then total silence, like they just disappeared. I should have been able to see them. He acted like the thorny vines were not even there. So weird! I ran to the truck and locked myself inside until my husband returned from his jog. Yeah, the young ones seem to be very curious and most likely to pull pranks on humans. And so AR, will you tell your story? I suspect you have one to tell. Actually, I don't have one to tell. It's just something I learned when I did research on bigfoot. I used to think it was all BS then someone brought up Meldrum. I know one or two thing about human body movement (my college degree) so that caught my attention on how they walk differently than human. Strangely, my father in law believes in Bigfoot but I didn't know that for 8 years till I brought it up with my wife a couple years ago. Funny... You should see his bookcases full of bigfoot, UFO, etc that will go well on GLP. I just never knew that he was into that stuff. I met Dr. Meldrum at the Honobia Bigfoot Festival in the Ouachita Mts of Oklahoma a few years back. It was a good conference held in an area known for many encounters and sightings. He was a speaker and very knowledgable about the articulation of the feet of various primates. He (last I heard) is of the opinion that they (bigfoot) are remnants of one of the known historical hominoids - Homo erectus, if I recall correctly. |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well the picture that he uses looks just like Johnathan Hillstrand, Captain of the Time Bandit, so probalbly true! lol "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AlcoholicRunner Yeah, the young ones seem to be very curious and most likely to pull pranks on humans. And so AR, will you tell your story? I suspect you have one to tell. Actually, I don't have one to tell. It's just something I learned when I did research on bigfoot. I used to think it was all BS then someone brought up Meldrum. I know one or two thing about human body movement (my college degree) so that caught my attention on how they walk differently than human. Strangely, my father in law believes in Bigfoot but I didn't know that for 8 years till I brought it up with my wife a couple years ago. Funny... You should see his bookcases full of bigfoot, UFO, etc that will go well on GLP. I just never knew that he was into that stuff. I met Dr. Meldrum at the Honobia Bigfoot Festival in the Ouachita Mts of Oklahoma a few years back. It was a good conference held in an area known for many encounters and sightings. He was a speaker and very knowledgable about the articulation of the feet of various primates. He (last I heard) is of the opinion that they (bigfoot) are remnants of one of the known historical hominoids - Homo erectus, if I recall correctly. plus the lines on the feet run in a different direction from modern humans, interesting stuff "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the sacred cow, evolution, is threatened by this new knowledge, cant have that "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39657034 United States 01/23/2014 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good read mixes paranormal and cryptology is "Hunt for the Skinwalker." Giant wolves who can't be put down by gunfire, orbs, vortex's. Other than that I enjoy reading about [link to www.mokelembembe.com] Sightings of dinosaurs in Africa. Lots of places to hide there. Then the stories of Megalodon. |
Merlin's Mom
User ID: 27073052 United States 01/23/2014 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the sacred cow, evolution, is threatened by this new knowledge, cant have that Quoting: furPete'sSake Plus, religions would have to be revised. The Native Americans call them the "Elder Brothers". They respect them as the Keepers of the Forest/Garden. Hope they can revive the "garden" after we finish destroying our ecosystem and therefore ourselves. Perhaps they are the "meek" that will inherit the Earth, if anything survives us, that is. |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the sacred cow, evolution, is threatened by this new knowledge, cant have that Quoting: furPete'sSake Plus, religions would have to be revised. The Native Americans call them the "Elder Brothers". They respect them as the Keepers of the Forest/Garden. Hope they can revive the "garden" after we finish destroying our ecosystem and therefore ourselves. Perhaps they are the "meek" that will inherit the Earth, if anything survives us, that is. why would religions have to be revised? "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seeing one didn't shake any beliefs I have, or change any "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Bluebird
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Founders Fan
User ID: 49976326 United States 01/23/2014 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would love to find an intelligent liberal in his natural habitat If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
furPete'sSake
User ID: 53249474 United States 01/23/2014 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | have you heard of Mount Pleasant Iowa? There's a good mothman story, if true, makes you wonder "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Merlin's Mom
User ID: 27073052 United States 01/24/2014 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that you frequent this site tells me that you would be open to such experiences. I speak of those IN religions who have closed minds. Some believe that humans have a God given right to have dominion over all the beasts of the earth, etc. Where would an intelligent hominid other than a human fit into that belief structure? Would it be a considered a "beast" which we therefore would have the right to dominate? Or would we grant it co-dominion over the Earth? If the latter, then we would have to stop destroying the ecosystems that support our fellow sapient race on this sphere. Would we recognize the fact that they co-exist with the ecosphere in a much more harmonious way than does our species? Are they Abel, and we are Cain? The proven existence of a fellow intelligent, language using, tool adept species on this planet would shake up many belief systems, not just science and religion. ***** |
-GLP-Christian-
User ID: 47361188 Sweden 01/24/2014 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am truly amazed at how many people have seen elves. I had no idea. They must have been much more common that is recognized. Quoting: waterlily Now I feel kind of bad that I haven't seen one, all I saw was an ugly old bird. We have tons of elves stuff over here in Sweden. There's also tales of trolls (no no, not the internet kind) that was said to change good looking Swedish babies for their ugly troll babies... Check this article about Satan Claus: [link to av1611.org] it has a section about Santa's little helpers, the elves, that you will find interesting (the entire article is interesting to see how much the Santa legend has stolen from the Bible and Jesus Christ). Around Christmas the superstitious people used to leave porridge for the farm elf. And if they didn't there was mischief they claim. A bit like the occult holiday Halloween with it's trick or treat thing: [link to av1611.org] Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com] Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net] The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] FRANCE IS TEH GHEY! |
-GLP-Christian-
User ID: 47361188 Sweden 01/24/2014 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that you frequent this site tells me that you would be open to such experiences. I speak of those IN religions who have closed minds. Some believe that humans have a God given right to have dominion over all the beasts of the earth, etc. Where would an intelligent hominid other than a human fit into that belief structure? Would it be a considered a "beast" which we therefore would have the right to dominate? Or would we grant it co-dominion over the Earth? If the latter, then we would have to stop destroying the ecosystems that support our fellow sapient race on this sphere. Would we recognize the fact that they co-exist with the ecosphere in a much more harmonious way than does our species? Are they Abel, and we are Cain? The proven existence of a fellow intelligent, language using, tool adept species on this planet would shake up many belief systems, not just science and religion. ***** Well it could be the fabled nephilim, the cross breed of women and fallen angels. The giants... living in the wilderness because else they get killed. Humans don't like the giants and the giants don't like the humans. There's enmity and they are the offspring of a highly illegal union. The Bible talks about all sorts of giants. A big foot could be a very hairy giant!??! I mean technically it seem to be a giant of sorts. And no the can't be Able (he was slain), nor can they be Cain, because Cain was a human (you'd have to go into the satanic Serpent seed heresy that says Eve had intercourse with the Serpent... disgusting and tarded idea to begin with), Cain's line most likely was destroyed in the flood, and the seed of Seth was the one that Noah and his family of 8 was part of. Because after that it only speaks of the WAY of Cain in the Bible (and a guy that was named Cain) and that Cain was of that wicked one. And of course there's the religion of Cain: [link to accordingtothescriptures.org] oh and if it is not a human we have a right put our dominion over it, BUT that doesn't give you a right to destroy the planet. If you read in Revelation Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. you can see that it says we're not to destroy the planet, people doing it of course out of their greed for filthy lucre. We are supposed to have dominion and be stewards. We can use but should not abuse. Oops best go back to Cryptozoology... Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com] Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net] The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] FRANCE IS TEH GHEY! |
waterlily
User ID: 51323695 United States 01/24/2014 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am truly amazed at how many people have seen elves. I had no idea. They must have been much more common that is recognized. Quoting: waterlily Now I feel kind of bad that I haven't seen one, all I saw was an ugly old bird. We have tons of elves stuff over here in Sweden. There's also tales of trolls (no no, not the internet kind) that was said to change good looking Swedish babies for their ugly troll babies... Check this article about Satan Claus: [link to av1611.org] it has a section about Santa's little helpers, the elves, that you will find interesting (the entire article is interesting to see how much the Santa legend has stolen from the Bible and Jesus Christ). Around Christmas the superstitious people used to leave porridge for the farm elf. And if they didn't there was mischief they claim. A bit like the occult holiday Halloween with it's trick or treat thing: [link to av1611.org] Thanks for the links. :-) I was particularly interested in the elves in the Scandinavian countries, they seem to be so helpful. I could use a couple around here! There is almost nothing published about elves in N America, I have heard more here in 2 days than I have my entire life. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
waterlily
User ID: 51323695 United States 01/24/2014 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the sacred cow, evolution, is threatened by this new knowledge, cant have that Quoting: furPete'sSake Plus, religions would have to be revised. The Native Americans call them the "Elder Brothers". They respect them as the Keepers of the Forest/Garden. Hope they can revive the "garden" after we finish destroying our ecosystem and therefore ourselves. Perhaps they are the "meek" that will inherit the Earth, if anything survives us, that is. Do you know which Native Americans call them "Elder Brother"? There are so many tribes. *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
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User ID: 53249474 United States 01/24/2014 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the sacred cow, evolution, is threatened by this new knowledge, cant have that Quoting: furPete'sSake Plus, religions would have to be revised. The Native Americans call them the "Elder Brothers". They respect them as the Keepers of the Forest/Garden. Hope they can revive the "garden" after we finish destroying our ecosystem and therefore ourselves. Perhaps they are the "meek" that will inherit the Earth, if anything survives us, that is. Do you know which Native Americans call them "Elder Brother"? There are so many tribes. I think the Lakota, but I'll have to check. I think they were called that in the book "The Spirit of Crazy Horse". And Crazy Horse gets a bad rap from whites because the black hills were sacred to them and other native peoples, but after gold was discovered, well we know the story. Back to Bigfoot We aren't told the truth of settlement in North America, I think any intelligent person can figure that out, and it has nothing to do with religious beliefs. I was reading recently that they have discovered European dna in native tribes that pre-date us coming here, and that idea of everything and everybody walking across from Siberia isn't the whole truth. No telling how many waves of people came here, by boats, etc, and when the continents were closer together we got an African influence down in SA, Olmecs. The people that want to shoot Bigfoot, are they religious people? I don't know, but why are people still killing each other, elephants, chimps and gorillas? when does the craziness stop? It'll have to start with people like us, people who have respect for life and are open to talking to each other and not be libeled crazies.. People are all agaga over some ETs, when there's more alien life on this planet that they abuse and disrespect daily I'm labeled "crazy" and "stupid" because I believe in the Creator God, but if I suddenly embrace and idolize ETS, then I'll be "normal"? If BF is the offspring of the Nephilim, and they were a real civilization once, we have discovered their ancient cities, then he is not a particularly good creature and best left alone, like the Indians said. If he is an old human, which the dna insists he is, but scientists, not religious people, want to deny, then he has to be treated as such. My personal opinion and that of many native Americans is that he is an "old Indian", one that is shy and has lived here thousands of years before recent waves of new people. He probably became a night person to survive as they were just as likely to kill him as we are "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States 01/24/2014 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also the sacred cow, evolution, is threatened by this new knowledge, cant have that Quoting: furPete'sSake Plus, religions would have to be revised. The Native Americans call them the "Elder Brothers". They respect them as the Keepers of the Forest/Garden. Hope they can revive the "garden" after we finish destroying our ecosystem and therefore ourselves. Perhaps they are the "meek" that will inherit the Earth, if anything survives us, that is. Do you know which Native Americans call them "Elder Brother"? There are so many tribes. I think the Lakota, but I'll have to check. I think they were called that in the book "The Spirit of Crazy Horse". And Crazy Horse gets a bad rap from whites because the black hills were sacred to them and other native peoples, but after gold was discovered, well we know the story. Back to Bigfoot We aren't told the truth of settlement in North America, I think any intelligent person can figure that out, and it has nothing to do with religious beliefs. I was reading recently that they have discovered European dna in native tribes that pre-date us coming here, and that idea of everything and everybody walking across from Siberia isn't the whole truth. No telling how many waves of people came here, by boats, etc, and when the continents were closer together we got an African influence down in SA, Olmecs. The people that want to shoot Bigfoot, are they religious people? I don't know, but why are people still killing each other, elephants, chimps and gorillas? when does the craziness stop? It'll have to start with people like us, people who have respect for life and are open to talking to each other and not be libeled crazies.. People are all agaga over some ETs, when there's more alien life on this planet that they abuse and disrespect daily I'm labeled "crazy" and "stupid" because I believe in the Creator God, but if I suddenly embrace and idolize ETS, then I'll be "normal"? If BF is the offspring of the Nephilim, and they were a real civilization once, we have discovered their ancient cities, then he is not a particularly good creature and best left alone, like the Indians said. If he is an old human, which the dna insists he is, but scientists, not religious people, want to deny, then he has to be treated as such. My personal opinion and that of many native Americans is that he is an "old Indian", one that is shy and has lived here thousands of years before recent waves of new people. He probably became a night person to survive as they were just as likely to kill him as we are Every tribe has their own term for bigfoot but i think it generally means "Forest People" or something like that. Most commonly used is Sasquatch. |