It's an Outrage!!!!

That was not necessary. Also not true. Go away

I know...I'm at my wit's end on this one

May want to bother these guys as well:

[link to www.co.berks.pa.us]

Not sure if it will do any good, but....

I need everyone to think that this could happen to you, too. That's how desperate they are...

Ok. There is paperwork involved here- they don't just 'keep' her.

So, let's go through the terminology/ accusations. They have probably filed a CHIPS (child in need of protective services) case. In that case, there will be details of the accusations/ why they claim that your homestead or you, as people, are a risk to the child.

What are their claims?

Next, in order for them to give her shots she has to have been at least temporarily placed as a 'ward of the state' which would allow them to make medical, educational decisions for her.

This would have been another court case- in front of a judge- where the accusations would have been made and you could have responded.

Basically, while she is not in your charge, you aren't able to make decisions for her. So, to help you, we need to know on what basis they are holding her.

I will pray for you.. for her. This is disturbing to say the least.

The prayers of a mother and a grandmother are powerful weapons. As a Christian.. I wouldn't know what to do other than pray.

Yep thats not a common name.Plug it in google and find all kinds of info even grandma posting to her and the court case on her for Tobacco-Possession, Distribution or Use by Minor and her Facebook page.Never a good idea to post names like that.

Here's my 2 cents.

First, I want you to know I live a few miles away from you. I will help any way I can.

Are you able to give her any food, such as "treats" when you visit her? Can you mail them to her? If so, please make these. These will detox her system from the shots.



Second, start a facebook page to "free" your granddaughter. These pages tug at the heart of people, start movements, and can be "shared" on news pages. If you need help with this, let me know.

If you need bentonite clay, I can mail it to you for free, or meet you and give it to you at no charge.

Last Edited by Wildthing on 01/19/2014 10:23 PM

They claim that since she is in Pa. state custody, that any ruling from our home state doesn't apply. It's about territorial jurisdiction and "state compacts"

I am not good with facebook, but I do use it to talk with her in the evenings. If you think it would do any good, please PM me and we can talk about it

Thank you...but there is nothing to hide except they kidnapped my granddaughter, and they don't want to lose money by giving her back

You need to email all the area attys and try to get someone to take your case pro bono.

They threaten to take her phone away all the time, even though I pay for it. They are terrorizing her with threats. I feel so helpless....

We tried that, and no one wants to go against the established order...

good idea. There may be someone like-minded.


OP, any ally is a good thing to have - neighbors, even if they live a bit away, church friends, anyone.

I need to try to sleep..
Please don't let this thread die during the night.....

Is she underage?
Why are they allowed to take her to start with?
What did the other grandmother tell them that made them keep her?
Sounds more like they have her in custody?

I PM'd you OP

I've been reading about some recent custody cases that Judge Keller has presided over. He's becoming infamous for awarding custody to an abusive parent rather than the non-abusive one. And in at least two instances, when a child spoke out against the abusive parent, the judge had them placed in a juvenile detention facility. He must have some powerful friends, because all appeals seem to disappear in the higher courts.

Beginning to believe that something is rotten in the city of Reading...

Reading, PA. The same city that did DNA checkpoints a few weeks ago...yeah...something stinks. [link to www.foxnews.com]

Someone's even started a Facebook page about the corruption:

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Did you vote for any of the Federal Reps or Senators? If so write to them. Explain the situation (mention that you are one of their constituents and need their help) and ask for their assistance in solving the problem.

May not do any good, but can't hurt.

I am so sorry for your pain. This is horrible---it does sound like these people here are sending good advise. I sure hope something works! I believe it will.

Wasn't it in PA where a juvenile judge was taking kickbacks for sending kids to certain detention centers, then one boy killed himself and it all unraveled? Why yes it is PA. Looks like their juvenile judges have known track records. Research the case I speak about and the juvenile cemters involved, wouldn't hurt to see if there is any similarities.

With all due respect, from one parent to another, you seem to not be very forthcoming with what the accusations are. I understand the 'jurisdiction' dilemma, but, then what was she originally taken for? Regardless of where it was.

You aren't going to get very far by simply screaming that she has been taken and all of that, if you aren't going to provide the whole story. Again, with all due respect, it does make it seem like you have something to hide, and asking people to rally around your cause (which I would be more than happy to do if I had the full picture here) without any real information isn't going to make you look better, either.

Lastly, as far as the 15 year old being taken away and the other 2 children left, I would suspect that it is one of two allegations; either the child was very out of control, as in- selling drugs or running wild and the courts didn't think you could handle an 'over the top' child and she needed major help.... Or, there was an accusation/ belief that some type of sexual abuse was occurring (and, therefore a brother and a baby would be immune to it). Now, I may be wrong, but, there is a reason she was taken into custody and you don't want to answer what that is.

Of course, you have a right to privacy- but you are only telling us part of the story and want us to see you as victims- which you may be, but we can't know to help you without the whole story.

You are obviously very troubled. I will pray for your peace and the safety of the child.

Last Edited by ladulce on 01/19/2014 11:00 PM

This is so infuriating. The feeling of helplessness must be awful, I'm so sorry that you're having to go through this.

Have you tried contacting your state senators and representatives? Call them, go to their offices. You might also try the American Center for Law and Justice, they might at least offer advice.

You're in my prayers...

Yes, it was. And unfortunately, the similarities are there.

As she stated in the beginning, she sent her grandchild to visit her other grandmother in a different state. The other grandmother apparently didn't want to keep her for the amount of time of the visit and instead of sending her back home, she called the state and gave the grand daughter to the state.

The OP has been trying to get her grand daughter back home which is not in the same state, so any filings and court papers she has for custody of the child, the state of PA says they do not recognize because it is not done within the state.

It's not a simple matter when you have two other children to take care of and are thousands of miles away. I can imagine that they would balk at uprooting those children if they went to PA and call it child neglect because they were in a hotel instead of a home, or some other stupid bullshit.

I have two older sisters, 54 and 58. They both have children and grandchildren. All the children who've been given the gamut of vaccinations have mental issues and health problems. The ones that haven't had any (and have been fed on organic food), are all super intelligent, and without any health issues whatsoever.

The vaccinations are all part of the Eugenics and dumbing down program.

But... You already knew that.

Yes, I am going to save this thread and search that tomorrow. This is BS.