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Last spring I posted that my Grandaughter was taken by CPS in Penna. She only went for a visit, and when her mentally challenged other Grandmother didn't want her, instead of calling and sending her home, gave her to Child Protective services. It's been an unending nightmare!
The outrage is that they are forcing, through threats of being sent to a juventile home, shots of every kind!!! We have never given her shots, as they are poison. Now, at 15, they threaten her to get them or they will put her in a home.
I can't believe this is happening. They have already started, and I can't imagine what her immune system is going through. I don't know what to do....macgun
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In these homes, you're not allowed phone calls, and can have only 2 visitors a month. We had bought her a phone and pay it every month so she can call us everyday...and she does.
In these homes they take all your posessions and even your shoes at night.
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I guess no one is interested in what they are doing to our children.
Anyone from Pa.?
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So Sorry to hear of your troubles OG My prayers are with you and your family.

Please read this link

What You Should Know if CPS Targets You or Your Family [link to www.houstontexascpslawyer.com]

read all the responses there is a lot of good information. My suggestion to you is to contact a good Attorney ASAP.
Much Love hugs
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They won't send her home to us because:
a. We are known patriots in this area, and believe in the constitution as the law
b. We live on a hill top at 3200ft, in a nice cabin that we built ourselves
c.We are off grid, and have our own power. We are out of their "matrix".
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Anything to justify the pay for the stupidity of the people that work at these departments which is just as outrageous. I make it a point to cuss in every thread and this story is just super fucked up I cant imagine your heartbreak. Fuck its bad as fucking bad can get.

verysad
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I thought she was back home already? I must have missed some info. Who is she with now? Who are they threatening? How can they threaten a 15 yr old girl for god sakes.

Are they giving her all these shots at once? I know we had to get our kids shots to get them into middle school and it was a series of 3 shots and it was spread out over almost a year, I think it was for hepatitis or something like that. Two of my kids missed the first few days of school cause of a 30 day thing between shots.
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I think you need an atty too. You lived your life the way you lived it for years and your grand daughter was fine, when you sent her to visit, which proves you don't hold her hostage, is when the problems arose.

I don't see how the state or fed govt can get involved in personal choice of how you choose to live and raise children as long as they are not neglected or abused.
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I thought she was back home already? I must have missed some info. Who is she with now? Who are they threatening? How can they threaten a 15 yr old girl for god sakes.

Are they giving her all these shots at once? I know we had to get our kids shots to get them into middle school and it was a series of 3 shots and it was spread out over almost a year, I think it was for hepatitis or something like that. Two of my kids missed the first few days of school cause of a 30 day thing between shots.
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So far she has had 8 shots forced into her. There are more next week, and the week after. I am so worried I want to do something I never thought i would right now...
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OP, think emancipation. May be an option that could help her get the hell away from those prick bastards at CPS.
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I think you need an atty too. You lived your life the way you lived it for years and your grand daughter was fine, when you sent her to visit, which proves you don't hold her hostage, is when the problems arose.

I don't see how the state or fed govt can get involved in personal choice of how you choose to live and raise children as long as they are not neglected or abused.
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In Penna. it's all about money.... the state gets lots of money for kids in the system...
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Last spring I posted that my Grandaughter was taken by CPS in Penna. She only went for a visit, and when her mentally challenged other Grandmother didn't want her, instead of calling and sending her home, gave her to Child Protective services. It's been an unending nightmare!
The outrage is that they are forcing, through threats of being sent to a juventile home, shots of every kind!!! We have never given her shots, as they are poison. Now, at 15, they threaten her to get them or they will put her in a home.
I can't believe this is happening. They have already started, and I can't imagine what her immune system is going through. I don't know what to do....macgun
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I have read your story and your daughter is in my heart and on my mind.
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We have tried legal paperwork to get her home, but the judge is paid by the system for the number of kids he keeps in the system. He laughs at our attempts. It's so outrageous it's almost unbelieveable....We don't have the 10,000 that the local corrupt lawyers are asking for.
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I guess no one is interested in what they are doing to our children.
Anyone from Pa.?
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Victims for the Beast. You must steel her.
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I thought she was back home already? I must have missed some info. Who is she with now? Who are they threatening? How can they threaten a 15 yr old girl for god sakes.

Are they giving her all these shots at once? I know we had to get our kids shots to get them into middle school and it was a series of 3 shots and it was spread out over almost a year, I think it was for hepatitis or something like that. Two of my kids missed the first few days of school cause of a 30 day thing between shots.
 Quoting: flavapor


So far she has had 8 shots forced into her. There are more next week, and the week after. I am so worried I want to do something I never thought i would right now...
 Quoting: old guard


Shoot BACK at them.
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I guess no one is interested in what they are doing to our children.
Anyone from Pa.?
 Quoting: old guard


Victims for the Beast. You must steel her.
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They fill her head with lies...like reprogramming...they tell her if she runs away with us they will put us in jail forever, and take our house. [Truth]
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01/19/2014 09:29 PM
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I would start a file on THEM. Names, addresses, background checks, whatever you can get your hands on. If this is a 'privatized' institution, I would find out who controls it and their board of directors, etc. Spam them with requests for documents and threats of personal lawsuits. Write letters to the Editor of all local newspapers. These scum prey on the 'easy fruit' of the vulnerable who have nobody to watch out for them. If you raise a stink they're prone to back off and slink back into the shadows.

May God bless you and the young lady....peace.
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01/19/2014 09:34 PM
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Thank you Hugh, I hear you..
She calls us every day so far. I tell her to be strong, that we are trying. It's the phone calls where she is sobbing her heart out, and saying she can't be strong any more, that she wants to come home that tear me up.
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We have even made complaints to the Pa. Attorney General about this to.....silence!!!
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 Quoting: old guard


you sound like a proper fucking hill billy.

I would take your children too.
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If love of a child with guidance and joy in life is being a hill billy, then I guess I am.
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The thing that gets me, is I am also raising her brother [13], and a little sister {7mos]. They have not dared to say anything about them

Last Edited by old guard on 01/19/2014 09:47 PM
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Can you contact any local newsmedia? The fact that you have her sibling and they won't let you have her makes the states case very flimsy.
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Can you contact any local newsmedia? The fact that you have her sibling and they won't let you have her makes the states case very flimsy.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower

Exactly
I don't know if this forum will allow it, but i need everyone to email Judge Scott Keller of Berks County Childrens court to release Kira to her grandmother. Her caseworkers name is Elizabeth Teeters...Berks County, Pa. Maybe we could get a responce!

Last Edited by old guard on 01/19/2014 10:08 PM
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Are you a believer? If I were you.. I would be on my face pleading the Blood of Jesus over that girl until this nightmare is over.

Isaiah 54:17 No weapon formed against you shall prosper,
And every tongue which rises against you in judgment
You shall condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord,
And their righteousness is from Me,”
Says the Lord.


Stand on the Word!! peace
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Can you contact any local newsmedia? The fact that you have her sibling and they won't let you have her makes the states case very flimsy.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower

Exactly
I don't know if this forum will allow it, but i need everyone to email Judge Scott Keller of Berks County Childrens court to release Kira Pannepacker to her grandmother. Her caseworkers name is Elizabeth Teeters...Berks County, Pa. Maybe we could get a responce!
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I don't think it's wise to post her name
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Last spring I posted that my Grandaughter was taken by CPS in Penna. She only went for a visit, and when her mentally challenged other Grandmother didn't want her, instead of calling and sending her home, gave her to Child Protective services. It's been an unending nightmare!
The outrage is that they are forcing, through threats of being sent to a juventile home, shots of every kind!!! We have never given her shots, as they are poison. Now, at 15, they threaten her to get them or they will put her in a home.
I can't believe this is happening. They have already started, and I can't imagine what her immune system is going through. I don't know what to do....macgun
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pray for your family,take care.
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This can't happen in this country. We need to get everyone available to get this out to the (paid for, govt run) media. If they would report it fairly, people would be outraged too.

I feel terrible for you.

Why was she sent or allowed to go to the crazy woman's house?
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

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Can you contact any local newsmedia? The fact that you have her sibling and they won't let you have her makes the states case very flimsy.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower

Exactly
I don't know if this forum will allow it, but i need everyone to email Judge Scott Keller of Berks County Childrens court to release Kira Pannepacker to her grandmother. Her caseworkers name is Elizabeth Teeters...Berks County, Pa. Maybe we could get a responce!
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I don't think it's wise to post her name
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What else can I do? How can I get justice without a responce from the people?
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you sound like a proper fucking hill billy.

I would take your children too.
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fuckoffjets
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

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THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809)

Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee
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I feel your pain and frustration. Remove her name until you've had time to think this through.

Ask people whether or not you should post her name? Sweetie there are so many weirdo's around. It could do more harm than good.





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