So, I have been helping my neighbor with wi-fi, it has taken a terrible turn. | |
Kinect
(OP) User ID: 52836764 United States 01/14/2014 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It takes a lot of nerve to be knocking on the door in the middle of the night. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48889556 What worries me is why anyone would answer his door in the middle of the night. Me? I'd just yell through the closed door: "Hang on, I know it's got to be an emergency, so I've already called the sheriff's department and they're on their way!" OP, you have been used as a sucker, and will continue to be used as a sucker unless or until you learn to grow a spine. All kinds of posters here have given you all kinds of circumventions to slyly cut the parasite off of your wifi. BUT the parasite will continue to invent ways to leach off of you unless and until you decide to make it clear that you are no longer a viable host organism. NOW it is time to have the blunt How the Cow Eats the Cabbage Talk Either call up or meet up with the neighbor. One way or another, record the conversation. Here goes: I need to talk with you about what was going on with the wifi. I was recently advised that what was going on with you accessing my wifi as a guest might not even have been technically legal. When I have even a doubt about whether it was technically legal or not, I am going to immediately square my ass away to make sure I am keeping my part of something legal. You can get your own wifi through XYZ company just like I do. Look them up at XYZ dot com or call them at 555-XYZ-XYZZ. Now about that knock on the door at 1230 in the middle of the night, regarding wifi access. I am asleep and my household is well secured at that hour of the night. I consider any knock on the door or other disturbance at that hour to be an emergency. I will call the sheriff's department immediately. That is for your safety as well as mine. In case of emergency, we will have already have help on the way all the faster. Do not knock on my door at that hour unless it is a life and death emergency. In fact, it's probably best for you to call ahead at any time before you knock on the door. I tend to take household security rather seriously. We both live out here rather isolated. In case of fire, tornado, or other serious threat you can absolutely count on me for immediate, temporary emergency-basis assistance. But do NOT ask me for any other sort of assistance. You wore out your welcome by putting me at possible risk with that wifi business. Now you state your piece, or or can call it a day. I've had my say. Thank you so much for the advice. Yeah, this has gotten out of hand entirely. "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Josef Mengele "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White "Whatever you do in life, leave it better than you found it." |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 01/14/2014 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, the title pretty much says it all. I have satellite internet. Quoting: Kinect I paid quite a pretty penny to get this installed. I live in a remote area. There are no other options available. Unless you want a dial-up connection that is reaching 24k max. My wife made good friends with the neighbor, who saw our wireless router on her device. So she asked my wife if it would be possible to connect to the router. At first, I had no trouble with this. (2 years ago). Now I pay heavily for this damned thing ($80/mo) for just internet. I thought this might be a temporary situation. No.. This neighbor is still leaching my internet! I have changed the router password. Guess what? The neighbor came down at 12:30am tonight. She asks "when I try to log on, it says authentication error?" Am I wrong for this? I really hate being an ass, but damn! I think they should have their own internet service in 2 years! Or??? "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 01/14/2014 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's way too much to be leeching internet. They should have taken the hint at "authentication error." and to knock on your door that late? are you kidding me? "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 01/14/2014 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you want you can troll her, there are ways to redirect peoples browser to like porn on same router. Quoting: AtsuiPanda LMAO!! awesome idea. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 01/14/2014 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When they ask for more then your willing to help, it is no longer a nice thing. It becomes a dependance issue. Now you are their tech support! Just hope they don't get into trouble file sharing and get your connection fined/shut off. Ask them to split the bill or say bye bye to I-Net. |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 01/14/2014 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When they ask for more then your willing to help, it is no longer a nice thing. It becomes a dependance issue. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Now you are their tech support! Just hope they don't get into trouble file sharing and get your connection fined/shut off. Ask them to split the bill or say bye bye to I-Net. yeap, no good deed goes unpunished. been there done that. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
Kinect
(OP) User ID: 52836764 United States 01/14/2014 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's way too much to be leeching internet. Quoting: eekers They should have taken the hint at "authentication error." and to knock on your door that late? are you kidding me? Yeah, within about 1/2 hour or so of being shut off... knock, knock , knock... ugh.... When they ask for more then your willing to help, it is no longer a nice thing. It becomes a dependance issue. Quoting: --Voltaic-- Now you are their tech support! Just hope they don't get into trouble file sharing and get your connection fined/shut off. Ask them to split the bill or say bye bye to I-Net. I have changed the SSID name and the password. When it's later today, I'm going to tell them the ISP had noticed too many mac addresses attached to the service & limited it to two devices. If they want to connect it will be $50/mo... Don't know what else to do about it. Thank you all for the advice on this thread. "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Josef Mengele "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White "Whatever you do in life, leave it better than you found it." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52933680 Thailand 01/14/2014 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Kinect
(OP) User ID: 52836764 United States 01/14/2014 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a stupid thread with lots of stupid advice! OP is a pussy for not having the guts to tell his neighbour the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52933680 Why go around making excuses for doing the right thing? You have no idea what the situation is. In the beginning, this neighbor was a single mother struggling to get by. I have a thing called compassion. Now she has a man in her life, just trying to be tactful here. It's not easy to be mean when you care about others, okay? I'm not a pushover, I just have had enough now... "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Josef Mengele "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White "Whatever you do in life, leave it better than you found it." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49273877 Australia 01/14/2014 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Mr. Lurker
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52933680 Thailand 01/14/2014 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a stupid thread with lots of stupid advice! OP is a pussy for not having the guts to tell his neighbour the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52933680 Why go around making excuses for doing the right thing? You have no idea what the situation is. In the beginning, this neighbor was a single mother struggling to get by. I have a thing called compassion. Now she has a man in her life, just trying to be tactful here. It's not easy to be mean when you care about others, okay? I'm not a pushover, I just have had enough now... It's not mean to tell the truth! It's mean to make up a story about your ISP and multiple mac's! GROW UP! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49553668 United States 01/14/2014 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52784520 Croatia 01/14/2014 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | technically what you doing is illegal, You need permission from the ISP to do this, All though who cares about the law right? lol , anyways make her ass pay at least 20$ a month or something for using it , plus what speed do you get? here you can get pretty good internet for like 30USD Quoting: AtsuiPanda I wish! I have the most top speed availability out here in the country. I spend about $120/mo on internet alone. Crazy.... it was $80, few post earlier? are you sure what are you talking about or just making everyone here looks stupid? |
Kinect
(OP) User ID: 52836764 United States 01/14/2014 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a stupid thread with lots of stupid advice! OP is a pussy for not having the guts to tell his neighbour the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52933680 Why go around making excuses for doing the right thing? You have no idea what the situation is. In the beginning, this neighbor was a single mother struggling to get by. I have a thing called compassion. Now she has a man in her life, just trying to be tactful here. It's not easy to be mean when you care about others, okay? I'm not a pushover, I just have had enough now... It's not mean to tell the truth! It's mean to make up a story about your ISP and multiple mac's! GROW UP! Listen here, I grew up a long time ago, I was 19 when Desert Storm hit. Talk about growing up quick! You don't get the fact, that I'm trying to handle this in a decent manner. I do care about my neighbors. Sometimes they are like family. Go eat a dog or something. "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Josef Mengele "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White "Whatever you do in life, leave it better than you found it." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11181373 Canada 01/14/2014 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If those idiots look at kiddy porn You will be the one to go to jail bud. If the neighbors download movies and songs You will be the one hit with a lawsuit and loose Your house. I would simply tell them someone downloaded copyright material and You lost Your internet service due to it. I have been warned several times about downloading content and yes they will shut you off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44626651 incorrect. if a person uses your bandwidth to do illegal activities the persons bandwidth does not equal that person who owns it guility. You would be thrown out of the court room so fast it would make your head spin. the OP merely needs to secure the router and charge them for the bandwidth or split the bill. And before you decide to respond know this, if a hacker goes into someones computer to hide and do his damage to the net, who is at fault the person with the router he is hiding behind, or the hacker doing the damage. The answer should be simple. |
Kinect
(OP) User ID: 52836764 United States 01/14/2014 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | technically what you doing is illegal, You need permission from the ISP to do this, All though who cares about the law right? lol , anyways make her ass pay at least 20$ a month or something for using it , plus what speed do you get? here you can get pretty good internet for like 30USD Quoting: AtsuiPanda I wish! I have the most top speed availability out here in the country. I spend about $120/mo on internet alone. Crazy.... it was $80, few post earlier? are you sure what are you talking about or just making everyone here looks stupid? God bless! read the fucking thread! The increased bandwith is running my bill up to $120-130/mo. I have to pay extra for exceeded bandwidth, it's satellite internet. "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Josef Mengele "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White "Whatever you do in life, leave it better than you found it." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11181373 Canada 01/14/2014 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | technically what you doing is illegal, You need permission from the ISP to do this, All though who cares about the law right? lol , anyways make her ass pay at least 20$ a month or something for using it , plus what speed do you get? here you can get pretty good internet for like 30USD Quoting: AtsuiPanda I wish! I have the most top speed availability out here in the country. I spend about $120/mo on internet alone. Crazy.... it was $80, few post earlier? are you sure what are you talking about or just making everyone here looks stupid? God bless! read the fucking thread! The increased bandwith is running my bill up to $120-130/mo. I have to pay extra for exceeded bandwidth, it's satellite internet. :Desi: OP, you could put traffic limiters on the router say after the person uses 8-10 gb that day (if you even allow that much) then the router locks out the person (your neighbour) until the alotted time set on the router (24 hours) |
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Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 01/14/2014 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you could put traffic limiters on the router say after the person uses 8-10 gb that day (if you even allow that much) then the router locks out the person (your neighbour) until the alotted time set on the router (24 hours) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11181373 subtleties won't work on people like that. then she'd be knocking on his door every 10 minutes asking why she can't access the internet "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
AuroraB User ID: 52901399 United States 01/14/2014 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, this is where I am going now. It's really pissing me off. The neighbor now has a boyfriend, and man.... the bandwidth is showing it!! I think it's ultimatum time now... If your neighbor or her boyfriend download illegally (torrent) or any other activity you are responsible for it and can get in trouble. Cut them off. Explaining why might help. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11181373 Canada 01/14/2014 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you could put traffic limiters on the router say after the person uses 8-10 gb that day (if you even allow that much) then the router locks out the person (your neighbour) until the alotted time set on the router (24 hours) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11181373 subtleties won't work on people like that. then she'd be knocking on his door every 10 minutes asking why she can't access the internet tell her why, and if she wont foot the cost, then said traffic limiter remains until such a thing happens. Simple really. Its her own fault for using her daily bandwidth limit. If she wants to use the net all day (without paying it) then she should be conservative and watch 480p movies on netflix (700megabytes per video hour watched) compared to a 1080p video at 2-3 gbs per hour |
AuroraB User ID: 52901399 United States 01/14/2014 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If those idiots look at kiddy porn You will be the one to go to jail bud. If the neighbors download movies and songs You will be the one hit with a lawsuit and loose Your house. I would simply tell them someone downloaded copyright material and You lost Your internet service due to it. I have been warned several times about downloading content and yes they will shut you off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44626651 This sounds good. Your ISP will contact you if say Disney notices you downloaded something illegal of theirs. Disney watches more than others, they want their money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11181373 Canada 01/14/2014 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If those idiots look at kiddy porn You will be the one to go to jail bud. If the neighbors download movies and songs You will be the one hit with a lawsuit and loose Your house. I would simply tell them someone downloaded copyright material and You lost Your internet service due to it. I have been warned several times about downloading content and yes they will shut you off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44626651 This sounds good. Your ISP will contact you if say Disney notices you downloaded something illegal of theirs. Disney watches more than others, they want their money. then you just say this "I downloaded nothing, thus i cannot be held responsible until you prove (physically impossible) that it was who i downloaded something." a hacker using your rig as a proxy to download stuff for example does not make you guilty. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49488681 United States 01/14/2014 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | technically what you doing is illegal, You need permission from the ISP to do this, All though who cares about the law right? lol , anyways make her ass pay at least 20$ a month or something for using it , plus what speed do you get? here you can get pretty good internet for like 30USD Quoting: AtsuiPanda I wish! I have the most top speed availability out here in the country. I spend about $120/mo on internet alone. Crazy.... Yeah you know I'm just looking at my bill and it's $55 for internet services and $82 a month for wireless. That is an issue about 'illegal downloads' - you don't know what they're doing. I had friends visiting from overseas and they loaded a bunch of HBO, etc. stuff to take back and watch. And I got a very threatening notification that I had to sign and acknowledge, informing me that HBO and government had been notified about my illegal activity and it listed everything they had illegally downloaded. And the internet company was considering cancelling my account. I was so mad! Unless they are really good friends that you trust, I wouldn't share it. And good morning Kinect! |
Kinect
(OP) User ID: 52836764 United States 01/14/2014 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you could put traffic limiters on the router say after the person uses 8-10 gb that day (if you even allow that much) then the router locks out the person (your neighbour) until the alotted time set on the router (24 hours) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11181373 They are cut off now, until some payment arrangement can be met. Thanks for the advice! I have looked at the scheduling in advanced setup though. OP, you could put traffic limiters on the router say after the person uses 8-10 gb that day (if you even allow that much) then the router locks out the person (your neighbour) until the alotted time set on the router (24 hours) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11181373 subtleties won't work on people like that. then she'd be knocking on his door every 10 minutes asking why she can't access the internet ^^True^^ If your neighbor or her boyfriend download illegally (torrent) or any other activity you are responsible for it and can get in trouble. Quoting: AuroraB 52901399 Cut them off. Explaining why might help. They are cut off now. tell her why, and if she wont foot the cost, then said traffic limiter remains until such a thing happens. Simple really. Its her own fault for using her daily bandwidth limit. If she wants to use the net all day (without paying it) then she should be conservative and watch 480p movies on netflix (700megabytes per video hour watched) compared to a 1080p video at 2-3 gbs per hour Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11181373 When they can start paying on the bill, this might be a consideration. Thanks "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Josef Mengele "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White "Whatever you do in life, leave it better than you found it." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49553668 United States 01/14/2014 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a stupid thread with lots of stupid advice! OP is a pussy for not having the guts to tell his neighbour the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52933680 Why go around making excuses for doing the right thing? You have no idea what the situation is. In the beginning, this neighbor was a single mother struggling to get by. I have a thing called compassion. Now she has a man in her life, just trying to be tactful here. It's not easy to be mean when you care about others, okay? I'm not a pushover, I just have had enough now... You are a doormat. |
Virgo10
User ID: 18645917 United States 01/14/2014 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, the title pretty much says it all. I have satellite internet. Quoting: Kinect I paid quite a pretty penny to get this installed. I live in a remote area. There are no other options available. Unless you want a dial-up connection that is reaching 24k max. My wife made good friends with the neighbor, who saw our wireless router on her device. So she asked my wife if it would be possible to connect to the router. At first, I had no trouble with this. (2 years ago). Now I pay heavily for this damned thing ($80/mo) for just internet. I thought this might be a temporary situation. No.. This neighbor is still leaching my internet! I have changed the router password. Guess what? The neighbor came down at 12:30am tonight. She asks "when I try to log on, it says authentication error?" Am I wrong for this? I really hate being an ass, but damn! I think they should have their own internet service in 2 years! Or??? Clear it up quick. She must pay for her usage. Act like you are a company providing the service and send her a monthly bill. If anyone else moves close by, send out bills. |
Kinect
(OP) User ID: 52836764 United States 01/14/2014 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah you know I'm just looking at my bill and it's $55 for internet services and $82 a month for wireless. Quoting: Sloane That is an issue about 'illegal downloads' - you don't know what they're doing. I had friends visiting from overseas and they loaded a bunch of HBO, etc. stuff to take back and watch. And I got a very threatening letter saying HBO and government had been notified about my illegal activity and it listed everything they had illegally downloaded. And the internet company was considering cancelling my account. I was so mad! Unless they are really good friends that you trust, I wouldn't share it. And good morning Kinect! Good morning Sloane! :-) Yeah, I am also running the risk of that as well. Sorry to hear that happened to you. Scary stuff. Even though my ISP is pretty relaxed on the downloading aspect, you never know! "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Josef Mengele "You can't fix stupid" - Ron White "Whatever you do in life, leave it better than you found it." |
Steve8511
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52784520 Croatia 01/14/2014 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | technically what you doing is illegal, You need permission from the ISP to do this, All though who cares about the law right? lol , anyways make her ass pay at least 20$ a month or something for using it , plus what speed do you get? here you can get pretty good internet for like 30USD Quoting: AtsuiPanda I wish! I have the most top speed availability out here in the country. I spend about $120/mo on internet alone. Crazy.... You trollin bro? Which is it? 80 or 120? Not trolling, normally it's $80/mo, with this increased bandwidth, it's $120-130/mo. so actually YOU are really the stupid one here, trying to convince everyone that you just care about your poor nb. oh how sweet First you said NOW have to pay $80, that is already heavy and NOW again $120 that is a little bit more heavier but still have no balls to talk honestly with your poor nb. and tell them to share expenses! I bet, in the meantime that poor lady still have a couple of cats in the house and money to feed them and her poor internet freak partner oh what a sad sad story |