Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,948 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 968,397
Pageviews Today: 1,607,445Threads Today: 646Posts Today: 10,671
04:33 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

"BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 50473212
United States
01/10/2014 07:54 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
unless there is an opt out on your 1040 somewhere you can forget it.
AMEBIX

User ID: 33824395
United States
01/10/2014 07:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
bump
"drink and be merry for tomorrow you may die"

"our gods became their devils so their devils became our gods"

THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT, LIKE NO GOVERNMENT
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49377259
United States
01/10/2014 07:57 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Obamacare is just like the "voluntary" DNA swabbing at police checkpoints. Idiots who do not know their constitutional rights sheepfully comply.
sheeplebah
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 49377259
United States
01/10/2014 08:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
The law also states that insurance companies do not need to comply either, so they can simply bypass the ACA and offer the same coverage that they have been.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8996836
United States
01/10/2014 08:02 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
unless there is an opt out on your 1040 somewhere you can forget it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50473212


bsflagbsflag

my employer already gave me a waiver form
talkstory

User ID: 52708011
Thailand
01/10/2014 08:02 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
The law also states that insurance companies do not need to comply either, so they can simply bypass the ACA and offer the same coverage that they have been.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49377259


single payer system in the making, it would seem. After the Obama care train wreck that is.
talkstory
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8996836
United States
01/10/2014 08:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
...

:this1: I believe is correct, sadly. Raised by an attorney who was a professional loophole-finder.
 Quoting: snark


Well maybe your right, usually when something sounds too good to be true, it is.
 Quoting: Gdchappy


bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

law is absolute and has to be written absolutely, it means exactly what it says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8996836


"there shall be no penalty or fine imposed"

Didnt scotus rule that the "penaly" is not a penalty but is actually a tax?
That would be their loophole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50342249


it's the same thing with the income tax, YOU CAN OPT OUT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM BY REDEEMING LAWFUL MONEY. They depend on ignorance and fear, unfortunately for too many people who have been living in or near these big cities for too long their courage and conviction is a long lost relative they have never met.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 50473212
United States
01/10/2014 08:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
unless there is an opt out on your 1040 somewhere you can forget it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50473212


bsflagbsflag

my employer already gave me a waiver form
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8996836


if he's providing insurance you don't need to mess with it. mine was grandfathered in.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52738804
United States
01/10/2014 08:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Has anyone ever heard of this law before?
 Quoting: Gdchappy


No. All I have heard is you can apply for a waiver or request to be exempted. Only a select few get that.
shyrlymyrly

User ID: 52748478
Sweden
01/10/2014 08:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Same thing is with taxes in America, you don't have to pay them, but if you don't pay you're going to jail. The point is that the judge decides what's right or wrong. For example if judge thinks abortions are okay then the judge can rule on that and make abortions legal. This was just an example. It depends on the judge and interpretation of the law. Obamacare is very vague, it can imply anything and over rule other laws. I think theoreticlly it is possible to escape Obamacare, but in practice it's impossible.
I'm a bibletard, sorry for the inconvenience.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52705233
Mexico
01/10/2014 08:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 50342249
United States
01/10/2014 08:09 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
...


Well maybe your right, usually when something sounds too good to be true, it is.
 Quoting: Gdchappy


bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

law is absolute and has to be written absolutely, it means exactly what it says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8996836


"there shall be no penalty or fine imposed"

Didnt scotus rule that the "penaly" is not a penalty but is actually a tax?
That would be their loophole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50342249


it's the same thing with the income tax, YOU CAN OPT OUT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM BY REDEEMING LAWFUL MONEY. They depend on ignorance and fear, unfortunately for too many people who have been living in or near these big cities for too long their courage and conviction is a long lost relative they have never met.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8996836


yeah? how the hell does one "redeem lawful money"?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 50473212
United States
01/10/2014 08:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
this to will fizzle.....
WoodyMcWood

User ID: 45768148
United States
01/10/2014 08:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Yeah right....Just like taxes are voluntary. This video was horrible and the guy needs to take a chill pill. No one is going to take you seriously if you're shouting, out of breath, and saying f*ck every two seconds. pfft.
"Life Is Wood"
woowoochic

User ID: 22374259
United States
01/10/2014 08:12 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
banana2 let's hope this sticks.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 50473212
United States
01/10/2014 08:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Holy Crap! Bloggers know something corporate lawyers don't know!

LOL
WoodyMcWood

User ID: 45768148
United States
01/10/2014 08:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
"No individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage..."


This is only referring to those who PROVIDE Insurance. Period. Unless you are starting your own Health insurance company you are still required to have insurance under the A.C.A.

Sorry. That's just the way it is.
"Life Is Wood"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 51353269
United States
01/10/2014 08:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
It seems like we the people, aren't getting too many breaks theses day's, doesn't it?
 Quoting: Gdchappy


Actually, you should be saying "It seems like we the people have become a weak society that doesn't even want to fight totalitarian communism. We don't care about being controlled; in fact we actually prefer having the government put its boot on our throats."

There...that sounds much better to me than the pity game of acting like we don't get breaks.

We chose this society

We allow this to happen

Only change that will ever occur is when the mass comes together and forces change

We elect these people

We act like it's a 2 party system when it's clearly 1 system of power over the people

We don't care about taking wealth and trying to redistribute until we find out that it actually hits every single one of us in a negative way

We allow the government to keep people in poverty. We like to give fish instead of teaching how to fish

We allow the MSM to keep racism in our face on a daily basis.

We listen to the MSM....when we know 90% of what they feed our ears and minds is fabricated with an agenda; and completely false.

Look in the mirror......this is all your fault. I look in the mirror and know I am also to blame for this country. STOP ACTING LIKE A VICTIM!!!
Whiskey Boy

User ID: 13559462
United States
01/10/2014 08:21 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
just want to get your opinions on whether or not this is true. If it is, that would be totally awesome.


[link to youtu.be]

Here are the links to the sources-

[link to dcclothesline.com]
[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
[link to go] away/opinion-conservative/2014/01/federal-law-says-you-can-op​t-out-of-obamacare-nor-can-you-be-penalized-if-you-do-2786280​.html
[link to fellowshipoftheminds.com]
 Quoting: Gdchappy


From the Cornell site reads:
No individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

but I think is supposed to be read like:
No (individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer) offering group or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

Basically none of those entities in the parentheses that offer insurance will not be penalized for not participating. Sadly, I don't think they're referring to individual citizens.

But I'm not a lawyer, so who knows. Because I *am* a finder of loopholes and I could *easily* read it the way you posted.
 Quoting: Interested_1


Law applies to all people equally (supposedly). If these corporations (read: people as of citizens untied ruling) are exempt, then, it would follow that all people are exempt. But hey, I'm not a lawyer, surely they've safeguarded citizens using the citizens united defense.
WoodyMcWood

User ID: 45768148
United States
01/10/2014 08:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
just want to get your opinions on whether or not this is true. If it is, that would be totally awesome.


[link to youtu.be]

Here are the links to the sources-

[link to dcclothesline.com]
[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
[link to go] away/opinion-conservative/2014/01/federal-law-says-you-can-op​t-out-of-obamacare-nor-can-you-be-penalized-if-you-do-2786280​.html
[link to fellowshipoftheminds.com]
 Quoting: Gdchappy


From the Cornell site reads:
No individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

but I think is supposed to be read like:
No (individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer) OFFERINGgroup or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

Basically none of those entities in the parentheses that offer insurance will not be penalized for not participating. Sadly, I don't think they're referring to individual citizens.

But I'm not a lawyer, so who knows. Because I *am* a finder of loopholes and I could *easily* read it the way you posted.
 Quoting: Interested_1


Law applies to all people equally (supposedly). If these corporations (read: people as of citizens untied ruling) are exempt, then, it would follow that all people are exempt. But hey, I'm not a lawyer, surely they've safeguarded citizens using the citizens united defense.
 Quoting: Whiskey Boy

OFFERING is the key word here. This law only applies to insurance companies and the people that PROVIDE insurance coverage.

From Black's Law Dictionary:

What is OFFER?
1. To bring to or before; to present for acceptance or rejection; to hold out or proffer; to make a proposal to; to exhibit something that may be taken or received or not. Morrison v. Springer, 15 Iowa, 340; Vincent v. Woodland Oil Co., 105 Pa. 402, 30 Atl. 991; People v. Ah Fook, 62 Cal. 494. 2. To attempt or endeavor; to make an effort to effect some object; in this seuse used principally in criminal law. Com. v. Harris, 1 Beg. Gaz. R. (Pa.) 457. 3. In trial practice, to “offer” evidence is to state its nature and purport, or to recite what is expected to be proved by a given witness or document, and demand its admission. Unless under exceptional circumstances, the term is not to be taken as equivalent to “introduce.” See Ansley v. Meikle, 81 Ind. 200; Lyon v. Davis, 111 Ind. 384, 12 N. E. 714; Harris v. Tomlinson, 130 Ind. 420, 30 N. E. 214.



Law Dictionary: [link to thelawdictionary.org]

Last Edited by WoodyMcWood on 01/10/2014 08:28 AM
"Life Is Wood"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52738804
United States
01/10/2014 08:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
"No offering group or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act..."

But it does not read correctly if the parenthesis are taken out. Parenthesis clarify a statement and are independent of the words of the rest of the sentence; therefore, when you take out the parenthesis and the words between them, the sentence should still be able to be read and be grammatically correct.

This is what I remember, never made lower than a 90 in English classes. Perhaps someone else can chime in?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2822082


They way I interpret it is that anyone already offering and participating in individual or group health insurance is not required to go to the exchanges. The law mandates that everyone has to have insurance. Of course, this will all change when the employer mandate kicks in. Then many will learn their policy is substandard and their insurance company will cancel it, forcing many onto the exchanges.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19200631
United States
01/10/2014 08:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Actually it is common knowledge that it really says you only need to purchase insurance if it is affordable,if not you don't have to participate. Affordable care act.........

Google it......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19200631
United States
01/10/2014 08:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
[link to www.healthcare.gov (secure)]

If you are applying for an exemption based on: coverage being unaffordable; membership in a health care sharing ministry; membership in a federally-recognized tribe; or being incarcerated:

You have two options--

You can claim these exemptions when you fill out your 2014 federal tax return, which is due in April 2015
You can apply for the exemptions using the appropriate form:


Note: If you get an exemption because coverage is unaffordable based on your expected income, you may also qualify to buy catastrophic coverage through the Marketplace. This may be more affordable than your other options.
Citizenperth

User ID: 52735892
Australia
01/10/2014 08:35 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
awaiting phens take on this.. would make a good round table chat too.....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie
Whiskey Boy

User ID: 13559462
United States
01/10/2014 08:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
just want to get your opinions on whether or not this is true. If it is, that would be totally awesome.


[link to youtu.be]

Here are the links to the sources-

[link to dcclothesline.com]
[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
[link to go] away/opinion-conservative/2014/01/federal-law-says-you-can-op​t-out-of-obamacare-nor-can-you-be-penalized-if-you-do-2786280​.html
[link to fellowshipoftheminds.com]
 Quoting: Gdchappy


From the Cornell site reads:
No individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

but I think is supposed to be read like:
No (individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer) OFFERINGgroup or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

Basically none of those entities in the parentheses that offer insurance will not be penalized for not participating. Sadly, I don't think they're referring to individual citizens.

But I'm not a lawyer, so who knows. Because I *am* a finder of loopholes and I could *easily* read it the way you posted.
 Quoting: Interested_1


Law applies to all people equally (supposedly). If these corporations (read: people as of citizens untied ruling) are exempt, then, it would follow that all people are exempt. But hey, I'm not a lawyer, surely they've safeguarded citizens using the citizens united defense.
 Quoting: Whiskey Boy

OFFERING is the key word here. This law only applies to insurance companies and the people that PROVIDE insurance coverage.

From Black's Law Dictionary:

What is OFFER?
1. To bring to or before; to present for acceptance or rejection; to hold out or proffer; to make a proposal to; to exhibit something that may be taken or received or not. Morrison v. Springer, 15 Iowa, 340; Vincent v. Woodland Oil Co., 105 Pa. 402, 30 Atl. 991; People v. Ah Fook, 62 Cal. 494. 2. To attempt or endeavor; to make an effort to effect some object; in this seuse used principally in criminal law. Com. v. Harris, 1 Beg. Gaz. R. (Pa.) 457. 3. In trial practice, to “offer” evidence is to state its nature and purport, or to recite what is expected to be proved by a given witness or document, and demand its admission. Unless under exceptional circumstances, the term is not to be taken as equivalent to “introduce.” See Ansley v. Meikle, 81 Ind. 200; Lyon v. Davis, 111 Ind. 384, 12 N. E. 714; Harris v. Tomlinson, 130 Ind. 420, 30 N. E. 214.



Law Dictionary: [link to thelawdictionary.org]
 Quoting: WoodyMcWood


1. Start LLC offering health insurance
2. Opt out of obamacare
3. ???
4. Profit
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52669735
United States
01/10/2014 08:44 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
So let's become that group and start offering our own health insurance...$1 per year premium, $500,000 deductible per incident, $20 million annually deductible....

Works for me.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52738804
United States
01/10/2014 08:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
...

:this1: I believe is correct, sadly. Raised by an attorney who was a professional loophole-finder.
 Quoting: snark


Well maybe your right, usually when something sounds too good to be true, it is.
 Quoting: Gdchappy


bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

law is absolute and has to be written absolutely, it means exactly what it says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8996836


"there shall be no penalty or fine imposed"

Didnt scotus rule that the "penaly" is not a penalty but is actually a tax?
That would be their loophole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50342249


Yeah, that is a problem for Obamacare. You see, the problem with that is all tax laws MUST originate in the House. Obamacare originated in the Senate. So Obamacare is unconstitutional per the changing of the "words". If this case ever gets back to the Supreme Court on this little issue, then they will have to deem it unconstitutional or re-address the individual mandate and the "fine".

Unless the dems(and courts) consider totally stripping a bill that originates in the House of all language it contains and reinserting a total different bill as "originating in the House". I sure don't, but they do like to play their games with the constitution and laws.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52288590
United States
01/10/2014 08:55 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
I'd like to offer you some Health Insurance, do you need it?

There, I'm now exempt from Obummercare.

Are you going to do the same?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52738804
United States
01/10/2014 08:55 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
Actually it is common knowledge that it really says you only need to purchase insurance if it is affordable,if not you don't have to participate. Affordable care act.........

Google it......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19200631


Yes, but who determines affordable? The government did. Up to 30% of your income they deem affordable. They also have set up exchanges offering subsidies for affordable coverage for everyone. They do not factor in deductibles and co pays when they define affordable. Just the premiums.
WoodyMcWood

User ID: 45768148
United States
01/10/2014 08:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: "BREAKING NEWS" Federal law says you "CAN" opt out of Obamacare and "CAN NOT" be penalized!
...


From the Cornell site reads:
No individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

but I think is supposed to be read like:
No (individual, company, business, nonprofit entity, or health insurance issuer) OFFERINGgroup or individual health insurance coverage shall be required to participate in any Federal health insurance program created under this Act (or any amendments made by this Act), or in any Federal health insurance program expanded by this Act (or any such amendments), and there shall be no penalty or fine imposed upon any such issuer for choosing not to participate in such programs.

Basically none of those entities in the parentheses that offer insurance will not be penalized for not participating. Sadly, I don't think they're referring to individual citizens.

But I'm not a lawyer, so who knows. Because I *am* a finder of loopholes and I could *easily* read it the way you posted.
 Quoting: Interested_1


Law applies to all people equally (supposedly). If these corporations (read: people as of citizens untied ruling) are exempt, then, it would follow that all people are exempt. But hey, I'm not a lawyer, surely they've safeguarded citizens using the citizens united defense.
 Quoting: Whiskey Boy

OFFERING is the key word here. This law only applies to insurance companies and the people that PROVIDE insurance coverage.

From Black's Law Dictionary:

What is OFFER?
1. To bring to or before; to present for acceptance or rejection; to hold out or proffer; to make a proposal to; to exhibit something that may be taken or received or not. Morrison v. Springer, 15 Iowa, 340; Vincent v. Woodland Oil Co., 105 Pa. 402, 30 Atl. 991; People v. Ah Fook, 62 Cal. 494. 2. To attempt or endeavor; to make an effort to effect some object; in this seuse used principally in criminal law. Com. v. Harris, 1 Beg. Gaz. R. (Pa.) 457. 3. In trial practice, to “offer” evidence is to state its nature and purport, or to recite what is expected to be proved by a given witness or document, and demand its admission. Unless under exceptional circumstances, the term is not to be taken as equivalent to “introduce.” See Ansley v. Meikle, 81 Ind. 200; Lyon v. Davis, 111 Ind. 384, 12 N. E. 714; Harris v. Tomlinson, 130 Ind. 420, 30 N. E. 214.



Law Dictionary: [link to thelawdictionary.org]
 Quoting: WoodyMcWood


1. Start LLC offering health insurance
2. Opt out of obamacare
3. ???
4. Profit
 Quoting: Whiskey Boy


It's worth a shot, but I am not sure what is required to start a Health insurance company and now I am sure it is even more complicated.
"Life Is Wood"





GLP