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Frayed Knot
User ID: 35406953 United States 01/05/2014 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freedom of religion isn't enough for Christians, they also need to display it on public buildings, broadcast it on public airways, pray in public events, etc. etc. If you try to get them to back off just a little so the rest of us don't have to see and hear their nonsense everywhere they throw a fit like they are getting their heads chopped off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52472995 Why they can't do their praying in private like their God told them to is beyond me. STFU already and leave us logical people with an environment that isn't dominated by crazy invisible fantasy crap. It's a celebration, and as such, a public thing. If you don't like it, stay home. No one is forcing you to participate. Thus, the beauty of the Constitution. You're welcome. Last Edited by Frayed Knot on 01/05/2014 12:10 AM I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot |
DutchNord32
User ID: 52062870 New Zealand 01/05/2014 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure it would, buddy. [link to 25.media.tumblr.com] "All I know is that I know nothing." -Socrates "Democracy... is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder; and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike." -Plato "I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52479648 United States 01/05/2014 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's impossible to say one way or another. Either way shitty humans exist. I'm not particularly religious, but seeing a nativity scene wouldn't irk me one bit, nor would I wish to see it removed. As someone once said, it "neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." ^^^ me too, hearing about all these people who can't stand the word christmas and the nativity scenes makes me wonder? do their eyes/ears/toungue burn from the sight of the regligious symbols? if so why? are they demons or something? LOL, its almost enough to make me religious. |
Frayed Knot
User ID: 35406953 United States 01/05/2014 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care if you find it preferable to believe in a man-made fairy tale that makes you feel like you and the life you live is worth something special - that's your ego. Quoting: MidnightAssassin If you only knew how to rid yourself of that ego, which also a made up thing, you'd be well on your way to understanding the true nature of reality. The brightest minds on the planet are still debating what is "the true nature of reality", but you've got it all figured out, eh? Your ego has no bearing on this at all, does it? I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51436674 United States 01/05/2014 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why? It won't matter what answer I give you. The fact that you're a defender of religion means any answer I provide you will be immediately deemed worthless because of your pro-religious bias. Pro-religious bias? Tell me why it is preferable to think of my child as a soul-less piece of meat in a meaningless world of chance and natural selection, where even my love for my child can be explained away as nothing but brain functions? You can't tell me, because you don't believe the crap you want to sell other people. If you acted consistent with your beliefs you'd be a sociopath, or worse. That's why religion is preferable. You have zero idea what I believe and everything you think you know about what I believe is a lovely display of your arrogance. ROTF!!! We'll hell, pal enlighten us. Why would you wish to hide your own beliefs from criticism and scrutiny, when critiquing the beliefs of others? Likely because you have shit-for-brains metaphysical beliefs generated out of teenage angst that your daddy didn't love you. If you don't like religion, then give a freakn' working alternative besides being a power-tripping sh*t head with an attitude. |
Kirk
User ID: 46623222 United States 01/05/2014 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's about time that someone reads the establishment clause to the supreme court. It very clearly states that the government shall make no law to establish a religion. It doesn't say a fucking word about the separation of church and state. The only mention "separation of church and state" by the founders was in a letter (I think it was written by Madison, but I could be wrong) that was about keeping the government out of the church, not the other way around. All the founders were very clear about where the values they tried to ensure came from. Contrary to the progressive bullshit being passed around today, the founders were all very religious. I am not a very religious person, I do know that America would be a very different place without the Judeo-Christian values the founders gave us in our founding documents. It is time for America to return to the Constitutional government that served us so well for the first 150 years. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy It all comes from the spirit. What is the spirit today? Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
MONSTER
User ID: 47033863 United States 01/05/2014 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there an address we can write and thank that county for putting the Nativity scene up? We are going to have to open our mouths instead of being quite and letting assholes complain and take our religion away from us. KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Kirk
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Elsabiades..
User ID: 688491 Puerto Rico 01/05/2014 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aw. Well. It's all rather simple. Separation of church and state is a elementary concept. The state cannot promote religion. Where I live; we have the First Baptist Church which is directly across the street from the Courthouse. Each year the Church has a nativity scene across the street. And, each year the Courthouse puts up a sign which is religious in nature. Noone makes a peep. However, is it legal? No. The state cannot promote religion; period. Will it come down? Depends on whether someone protests (files a Complaint with the County Commission and is willing to take the matter to federal court). Elsabiades.. |
Elsabiades..
User ID: 688491 Puerto Rico 01/05/2014 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Courthouse is state/county property. As such, it cannot promote religion. These lawyers in D.C. know this; more importantly, they know that their fees will be ordered paid by the federal court if they have to proceed there to enforce them. Elsabiades.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45410182 United States 01/05/2014 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's impossible to say one way or another. Either way shitty humans exist. I'm not particularly religious, but seeing a nativity scene wouldn't irk me one bit, nor would I wish to see it removed. As someone once said, it "neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." I don't think it's impossible to say either way. Religion is single-handedly the prime motivating factor responsible for more deaths, abuse, torture and war in this world than I care to list. Not to mention all the hate, the arguments, the tearing apart of families and friends, and the dividing of mankind throughout the world. I rest my case your honor. Here let me help you: Money is single-handedly the prime motivating factor responsible for more deaths, abuse, torture and war in this world than I care to list. Not to mention all the hate, the arguments, the tearing apart of families and friends, and the dividing of mankind throughout the world. You're welcome. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52484513 United States 01/05/2014 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop making these kinds of issue a matter of right versus left. It is about following the LAW. It is about the fact that America is NOT a christian nation. Get over it. That is what you are trying to make it. Most of the founding fathers were Christian and incorporated God in all their writings. To argue otherwise would require complete ignorance of their work. You expected them to be logical? "them" . . . christians are some of the greatest dividers in society. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52484513 United States 01/05/2014 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop making these kinds of issue a matter of right versus left. It is about following the LAW. It is about the fact that America is NOT a christian nation. Get over it. BULL! This is about left vs. right, believers vs. non believers and we both KNOW IT! Only because christians are not willing to be private about their beliefs and respectful of all others, and are fanatics about pushing their religion on society in general. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52484513 United States 01/05/2014 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freedom of religion isn't enough for Christians, they also need to display it on public buildings, broadcast it on public airways, pray in public events, etc. etc. If you try to get them to back off just a little so the rest of us don't have to see and hear their nonsense everywhere they throw a fit like they are getting their heads chopped off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52472995 Why they can't do their praying in private like their God told them to is beyond me. STFU already and leave us logical people with an environment that isn't dominated by crazy invisible fantasy crap. There are more Christians than unbelievers, you might want to remember that, because we tolerate you, and, by being an overbearing, arrogant, loudmouthed minority, you could change that situation for the worse. People like you are a huge part of what's wrong with all of society. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52484513 United States 01/05/2014 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop making these kinds of issue a matter of right versus left. It is about following the LAW. It is about the fact that America is NOT a christian nation. Get over it. Bullshit. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; The law does not forbid the government displaying religious symbolism. It only forbids them enforcing a state religion or making practicing one's religion (within the confines of the law) illegal. Get over it. Your so-called religious beliefs must be awfully weak. Christians who rant and whine and bitch probably have ZERO honest and real faith. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52421702 United States 01/05/2014 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop making these kinds of issue a matter of right versus left. It is about following the LAW. It is about the fact that America is NOT a christian nation. Get over it. Bullshit. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; The law does not forbid the government displaying religious symbolism. It only forbids them enforcing a state religion or making practicing one's religion (within the confines of the law) illegal. Get over it. Your so-called religious beliefs must be awfully weak. Christians who rant and whine and bitch probably have ZERO honest and real faith. Spoken just like the devil himself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52421702 United States 01/05/2014 03:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freedom of religion isn't enough for Christians, they also need to display it on public buildings, broadcast it on public airways, pray in public events, etc. etc. If you try to get them to back off just a little so the rest of us don't have to see and hear their nonsense everywhere they throw a fit like they are getting their heads chopped off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52472995 Why they can't do their praying in private like their God told them to is beyond me. STFU already and leave us logical people with an environment that isn't dominated by crazy invisible fantasy crap. There are more Christians than unbelievers, you might want to remember that, because we tolerate you, and, by being an overbearing, arrogant, loudmouthed minority, you could change that situation for the worse. People like you are a huge part of what's wrong with all of society. You're right. Society needs more overbearing, arrogant, and loudmouthed atheists. |
Xray J
User ID: 52361506 United States 01/05/2014 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how about this nativity scene... [link to ktla.com] A nativity scene outside the Claremont United Methodist Church featuring a depiction of Trayvon Martin in place of an infant Jesus has stirred up controversy. TrayvonMartinNativity A Nativity outside Claremont United Methodist Church featured a depiction of Trayvon Martin. (Credit: Bill Norris via Claremont-LaVerne Patch) In the instillation, the Florida teenager who was shot and killed last year was shown wearing a hoodie, slumped over and bleeding. The Nativity is the work of John Zachary, a 57-year-old artist and congregant of the church who has a history of using the nativity scene to express his opinions on social injustice. "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52421702 United States 01/05/2014 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop making these kinds of issue a matter of right versus left. It is about following the LAW. It is about the fact that America is NOT a christian nation. Get over it. BULL! This is about left vs. right, believers vs. non believers and we both KNOW IT! Only because christians are not willing to be private about their beliefs and respectful of all others, and are fanatics about pushing their religion on society in general. You just described leftard atheism, perfectly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52469951 United States 01/05/2014 03:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31584258 Stop making these kinds of issue a matter of right versus left. It is about following the LAW. It is about the fact that America is NOT a christian nation. Get over it. That is what you are trying to make it. Most of the founding fathers were Christian and incorporated God in all their writings. To argue otherwise would require complete ignorance of their work. You expected them to be logical? "them" . . . christians are some of the greatest dividers in society. Muslims are just as bad if not worse, but no one ever complains about anything they do because it's just too dangerous. |
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Frayed Knot
User ID: 35406953 United States 01/05/2014 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop making these kinds of issue a matter of right versus left. It is about following the LAW. It is about the fact that America is NOT a christian nation. Get over it. Bullshit. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; The law does not forbid the government displaying religious symbolism. It only forbids them enforcing a state religion or making practicing one's religion (within the confines of the law) illegal. Get over it. Your so-called religious beliefs must be awfully weak. Christians who rant and whine and bitch probably have ZERO honest and real faith. At least I didn't stoop to ad hominem. The law is plainly written. If athiests don't like it, there are plenty of countries that don't value religious freedom. Find one. I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot |
MidnightAssassin
User ID: 50488077 United States 01/05/2014 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why? It won't matter what answer I give you. The fact that you're a defender of religion means any answer I provide you will be immediately deemed worthless because of your pro-religious bias. Pro-religious bias? Tell me why it is preferable to think of my child as a soul-less piece of meat in a meaningless world of chance and natural selection, where even my love for my child can be explained away as nothing but brain functions? You can't tell me, because you don't believe the crap you want to sell other people. If you acted consistent with your beliefs you'd be a sociopath, or worse. That's why religion is preferable. You have zero idea what I believe and everything you think you know about what I believe is a lovely display of your arrogance. ROTF!!! We'll hell, pal enlighten us. Why would you wish to hide your own beliefs from criticism and scrutiny, when critiquing the beliefs of others? Likely because you have shit-for-brains metaphysical beliefs generated out of teenage angst that your daddy didn't love you. If you don't like religion, then give a freakn' working alternative besides being a power-tripping sh*t head with an attitude. I've not hidden my beliefs in any way. They're right in plain sight. I know it's difficult to see the forest through the trees. "I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics, a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's." ("Mark Twain in Eruption") |
MidnightAssassin
User ID: 50488077 United States 01/05/2014 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care if you find it preferable to believe in a man-made fairy tale that makes you feel like you and the life you live is worth something special - that's your ego. Quoting: MidnightAssassin If you only knew how to rid yourself of that ego, which also a made up thing, you'd be well on your way to understanding the true nature of reality. The brightest minds on the planet are still debating what is "the true nature of reality", but you've got it all figured out, eh? Your ego has no bearing on this at all, does it? And who exactly do you consider to be the "brightest minds on the planet?" What makes you think they are the one's who will ultimately be able to gain such understanding? Last Edited by MidnightAssassin on 01/05/2014 11:42 AM "I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics, a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's." ("Mark Twain in Eruption") |