Is A Society of Atheists Destined To Live Under Tyranny?

Actually, the very opposite. Atheists don't believe in an "after-life"; and, are prone to support more freedom (complete) while here on earth. The intellectuals of the Enlightenment were primarily atheists; as were the intellectuals who drafted the Constitution.

The constitution wasn't all Atheists.

But especially these days, you don't see a pure atheist society drifting towards collectivism? The hive mind, which always leads to less individual freedom?

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All religion that has spread accross the world was spread by Tyranny, especially Christianity.

I'm not saying there hasn't been ruthless religious societies throughout history, obviously that is not the case.

But

This day in age, if you have a society based upon pure atheism and secular humanism, vs a society with faith an belief in a higher power...

I'm not saying which would be safer, or more prosperous, I am strictly saying an atheist society will eventually fall under tyranny almost certainly.

That is a different topic. Not what I am talking about.

Different topic but extreamly relevant. Is a Society of Religion Destined to live under Tranny? Yes.

"The world's great civilizations have progressed through this sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back again into bondage."

It takes spiritual faith to break the chains of bondage...

No spiritual faith...no breaking the bondage.

Look at how things are now in the US and how many Americans are Christian.

They already do...

There is always bondage, and what differs is the level of bondage.

Well, back in our more prosperous days, the percentage of christians in this country was higher...

So you deny that atheism would lead to collectivism?

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We are currently a society of christians living under tyranny. So if Christians are so enlightened according to the OP, why are they not rising up? Because they are waiting for Jesus to come back and do it for them.

If everyone was an atheist, and there was so supression in science and technology, I believe society would find god and truly understand what "religion" should be. If a Christian, or any other religious, society were put in the same position, shit would get bad.

WTF are you talking about????? all christians want is a god-proclaiming government, which they would want to serve, atheists don't want anything like that, and you think atheists are collectivsts? but christians aren't?????

wacko

It's still very, very high. At least in my neck of the woods. You cant drive 5 miles without passing a church and that isnt much of an exaggeration.


That being said, nothing about human history tells me that people arent destined to live under tyranny regardless of belief systems. Religion has a built in power structure so it would seem to me that tyranny would be easier to accomplish using religion as a tool.

But as a person who is a big supporter of civil liberties and does not a subscribe to any particular religion, I dont find to two to be mutual exclusive. Quite the opposite actually.

Violent deaths, disease, torture, despair, childhood cancer. Not hard to figure out there's no sky daddy who cares for us.

ya know, "Evan" never denied this....just saying

Troll thread? Title alone proves you dont understand the concept of atheïsme. Other than that most wars pre1900 weer about religion. Your post makes no sense.

Its like asking 'are people that dont drink cola destined to eat chickenwings? No because they have no relation whatsoever

No, my point is, I think people need faith in a higher power to have the courage to rise up against a regime that kills political dissidents.

Also, as I said, secular atheism leads to collectivism...which actually hasen't been refuted. Collectivism will always lead to less and less individual liberties.

Look, everyone is getting defensive, I never said religious people were perfect, or would live in a perfect society. Or that any group of people is better than any other group.

But my point at the top of this post is valid IMO