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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/21/2013 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Final Conclusion (Dr. Norman Geisler) It is therefore proved that Christianity is true, and all other opposing truth claims are false. Here is the entire argument for Christianity in review: (1) Truth about reality is knowable. (2) Opposites cannot both be true. (3) The theistic God exists. (4) Miracles are possible. (5) Miracles performed in connection with a truth claim are acts of God to confirm the truth of God through a messenger of God. (6) The New Testament documents are reliable. (7) As witnessed in the New Testament, Jesus claimed to be God. (8) Jesus’ claim to divinity was proven by a unique convergence of miracles. (9) Therefore, Jesus was God in human flesh. (10) Whatever Jesus (who is God) affirmed as true is true. (11) Jesus affirmed that the Bible is the Word of God. (12) Therefore, it is true that the Bible is the Word of God and whatever is opposed to any biblical truth is false. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/21/2013 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. OP,, by the very meaning of the Word, BELIEFS are NOT TRUTH,, they are postulates and Jesus did not create your religion, he was totally against religions… He taught you that your communication with your Father Within by Meditation is how it works and is held sacred by all. Quoting: Abinadi Belief is NOT truth, you are exactly right. Which is exactly why i posted these proofs. Beliefs are no longer beliefs when the evidence proves that it is the truth. And as I originally posted, if you look at the links, there is more than enough evidence to prove to any rational, logic person that Christianity is not a belief, but the truth. Same as pain if you burn your hand, of falling down if you trip due to gravity...Christianity is true because it is proven. Religious systems, all of them....none of them have proofs. Instead they are all simply different versions of the same lie...believe in yourself, you can become god, evolve, work hard, etc. You proved my point with your post. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45960100 United States 12/21/2013 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I'm always fascinated by these "My God is better than your God" arguments. Nobody is going to know until we are dead and on the other side. So quit your preachin' and quit being self-righteous. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/21/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I'm always fascinated by these "My God is better than your God" arguments. Nobody is going to know until we are dead and on the other side. So quit your preachin' and quit being self-righteous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45960100 Did you bother to read the links? I am always fascinated by people who comment on something based on nothing other than their personal views. These are not my views, they are provable facts. Stick with the facts, take emotion out of it. Please. |
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User ID: 986007 Puerto Rico 12/21/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Thank you. I enjoy ridicule for Christ, and I pray that you will accept Him before it is too late. Now go read the links instead of just posting because I convicted your heart. No thanks...my son has a Winnie the Pooh book right here...just as true as your links and book. BRB...have to say a quick prayer to Piglet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45960100 United States 12/22/2013 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I'm always fascinated by these "My God is better than your God" arguments. Nobody is going to know until we are dead and on the other side. So quit your preachin' and quit being self-righteous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45960100 Did you bother to read the links? I am always fascinated by people who comment on something based on nothing other than their personal views. These are not my views, they are provable facts. Stick with the facts, take emotion out of it. Please. All you have to do is look at the history of christianity and all their wars and you will get the answer. If there is a devil, he appears to be the one christians and all other religions worship, not God. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Ok so far we have people who refuse to read anything because they are scared of the truth. And we have a reference to the crusades, purported by the RCC, who have nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and also killed tons of real Christian s throughout their existence. Check. Truth is denied by fear and ignorance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15705665 United States 12/22/2013 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I'm always fascinated by these "My God is better than your God" arguments. Nobody is going to know until we are dead and on the other side. So quit your preachin' and quit being self-righteous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45960100 Did you bother to read the links? I am always fascinated by people who comment on something based on nothing other than their personal views. These are not my views, they are provable facts. Stick with the facts, take emotion out of it. Please. All you have to do is look at the history of christianity and all their wars and you will get the answer. If there is a devil, he appears to be the one christians and all other religions worship, not God. So called Christian wars, few and far between, and hardly too many died, especially compared to Muslim and Atheist wars. |
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User ID: 986007 Puerto Rico 12/22/2013 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Ok so far we have people who refuse to read anything because they are scared of the truth. And we have a reference to the crusades, purported by the RCC, who have nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and also killed tons of real Christian s throughout their existence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Truth is denied by fear and ignorance. You have no idea what truth is. No, Virginia, there is no fucking santa claus. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I'm always fascinated by these "My God is better than your God" arguments. Nobody is going to know until we are dead and on the other side. So quit your preachin' and quit being self-righteous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45960100 Did you bother to read the links? I am always fascinated by people who comment on something based on nothing other than their personal views. These are not my views, they are provable facts. Stick with the facts, take emotion out of it. Please. All you have to do is look at the history of christianity and all their wars and you will get the answer. If there is a devil, he appears to be the one christians and all other religions worship, not God. I agree,,, I don't want that ugly god…. Its not the Universal creating Consciousness which creates only in love. I have read the bible in full and it has a tiny bit of truth and a lot of warring and incomplete understanding of what god is. Christ did not start your religion. The god you want does not exist unfortunately. Please read the Geisler link I posted. Reality and evidence does not support anything you believe. It supports Christianity, the truth. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Ok so far we have people who refuse to read anything because they are scared of the truth. And we have a reference to the crusades, purported by the RCC, who have nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and also killed tons of real Christian s throughout their existence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Truth is denied by fear and ignorance. You have no idea what truth is. No, Virginia, there is no fucking santa claus. Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Ok so far we have people who refuse to read anything because they are scared of the truth. And we have a reference to the crusades, purported by the RCC, who have nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and also killed tons of real Christian s throughout their existence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Truth is denied by fear and ignorance. You have no idea what truth is. No, Virginia, there is no fucking santa claus. Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. |
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User ID: 986007 Puerto Rico 12/22/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Ok so far we have people who refuse to read anything because they are scared of the truth. And we have a reference to the crusades, purported by the RCC, who have nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and also killed tons of real Christian s throughout their existence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Truth is denied by fear and ignorance. You have no idea what truth is. No, Virginia, there is no fucking santa claus. Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. Potato!...Derp Derp... That's how you sound... You're the kid with the padded helmet in the corner who screams and bites and kicks and shits himself if anyone tells him that mickey mouse isn't real. ALL religion is fucked and nothing more than outdated rehashes of ancient anthropomorphic personifications. ...if you don't understand that, then... TaterTater Derp derp scalloped derpyderp. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I have read your link before.. I reviewed it briefly again.. It contains completely misleading thought… The fact that portions of the bible are true does not make the whole thing true. And I have read of the whole thing and I know a lot about that which you label God and I know a lot about the one labeled Jesus, and the article is most a crock. This is not fully rational thinking by the author. Quoting: Abinadi Ok. Please refute Geisler with your rebuttal and explain why it is a crock. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15705665 United States 12/22/2013 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Ok so far we have people who refuse to read anything because they are scared of the truth. And we have a reference to the crusades, purported by the RCC, who have nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and also killed tons of real Christian s throughout their existence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Truth is denied by fear and ignorance. You have no idea what truth is. No, Virginia, there is no fucking santa claus. Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. Potato!...Derp Derp... That's how you sound... You're the kid with the padded helmet in the corner who screams and bites and kicks and shits himself if anyone tells him that mickey mouse isn't real. ALL religion is fucked and nothing more than outdated rehashes of ancient anthropomorphic personifications. ...if you don't understand that, then... TaterTater Derp derp scalloped derpyderp. Stalin, Hitler and Mao also hated religion. As does MSM. As doe those who are brainwashed by MSM. Think about it dude. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Ok so far we have people who refuse to read anything because they are scared of the truth. And we have a reference to the crusades, purported by the RCC, who have nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and also killed tons of real Christian s throughout their existence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Truth is denied by fear and ignorance. You have no idea what truth is. No, Virginia, there is no fucking santa claus. Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. Potato!...Derp Derp... That's how you sound... You're the kid with the padded helmet in the corner who screams and bites and kicks and shits himself if anyone tells him that mickey mouse isn't real. ALL religion is fucked and nothing more than outdated rehashes of ancient anthropomorphic personifications. ...if you don't understand that, then... TaterTater Derp derp scalloped derpyderp. Falls back to insults and disproven theories. Disregards all facts given and becomes illogical. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50310330 United States 12/22/2013 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I found Jesus by finding Satan. So I was like, Oh, if there is Satan, and he is from the Bible, then God and Jesus must exist too. I decided to read the Bible to see for myself what it was about. I was not disappointed. Jesus is cool. |
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User ID: 986007 Puerto Rico 12/22/2013 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. Potato!...Derp Derp... That's how you sound... You're the kid with the padded helmet in the corner who screams and bites and kicks and shits himself if anyone tells him that mickey mouse isn't real. ALL religion is fucked and nothing more than outdated rehashes of ancient anthropomorphic personifications. ...if you don't understand that, then... TaterTater Derp derp scalloped derpyderp. Stalin, Hitler and Mao also hated religion. As does MSM. As doe those who are brainwashed by MSM. Think about it dude. Then in that aspect, they were completely sane individuals. I don't follow MSM. I am amazed daily at the spectacle of worldwide brainwashing. Go ahead, dude...waste your life following a book, or actually do some research that isn't self flagellation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50310330 United States 12/22/2013 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. The only evidence I had was that the evil of this world could not possibly be coincidence and I didnt knew at first who was responsible. Everything started to make sense slowly, things like how come I hear about love everywhere in peoples mouth, but there everything I look is sickening. Or how come we have all the science and technology and evolution, yet the moral values couldnt be more degraded. Those things should be obvious to anyone. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. I found Jesus by finding Satan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50310330 So I was like, Oh, if there is Satan, and he is from the Bible, then God and Jesus must exist too. I decided to read the Bible to see for myself what it was about. I was not disappointed. Jesus is cool. Alot of people come in through occultism, if that is what you mean. Eric Barger is great apologetic speaker and he converted from satanism to Christianity, he gives some good talks on the subject. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15705665 United States 12/22/2013 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. Potato!...Derp Derp... That's how you sound... You're the kid with the padded helmet in the corner who screams and bites and kicks and shits himself if anyone tells him that mickey mouse isn't real. ALL religion is fucked and nothing more than outdated rehashes of ancient anthropomorphic personifications. ...if you don't understand that, then... TaterTater Derp derp scalloped derpyderp. Stalin, Hitler and Mao also hated religion. As does MSM. As doe those who are brainwashed by MSM. Think about it dude. Then in that aspect, they were completely sane individuals. I don't follow MSM. I am amazed daily at the spectacle of worldwide brainwashing. Go ahead, dude...waste your life following a book, or actually do some research that isn't self flagellation. Yes, completely sane individuals who killed tens of millions without breaking a sweat. Well, that's Atheists for you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15705665 United States 12/22/2013 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. Final Conclusion (Dr. Norman Geisler) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 It is therefore proved that Christianity is true, and all other opposing truth claims are false. Here is the entire argument for Christianity in review: (1) Truth about reality is knowable. (2) Opposites cannot both be true. (3) The theistic God exists. (4) Miracles are possible. (5) Miracles performed in connection with a truth claim are acts of God to confirm the truth of God through a messenger of God. (6) The New Testament documents are reliable. (7) As witnessed in the New Testament, Jesus claimed to be God. (8) Jesus’ claim to divinity was proven by a unique convergence of miracles. (9) Therefore, Jesus was God in human flesh. (10) Whatever Jesus (who is God) affirmed as true is true. (11) Jesus affirmed that the Bible is the Word of God. (12) Therefore, it is true that the Bible is the Word of God and whatever is opposed to any biblical truth is false. Jesus did not write the bible nor did he anywhere affirm anywhere that the bible was the word of God. … The bible has many faults in it and is a bunch of stories, some with some truth, others with massive confusion and many which have been tampered with on purpose… Much of what Jesus taught is not in it or was removed from it. That it records miracles, and there are no miracles, all are explainable, does not make it God's word. Jesus did not claim divinity by the way. He just taught. this whole list above belongs to somebody who is not a great philosopher, but somebody who cannot clearly reason. Jesus was real,,,, but what is believed about him has a lot of error in it….. The whole mess of those stories in the OT and NT are not always true therefore no person named God wrote it. Jesus as at "god level" but so were many other avatars. and god level is your destiny if you follow forth for your eternal life. The word of God is written in LIFE, not in books . God did not have a pen and did not pen it…. God does work thru people, but again, I have read and digested the whole of the bible,,,, in my early adult years and huge portions of it since then and its full of errors and therefore cannot be the Word of God. Wrong. The Word is Truth. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47969136 United States 12/22/2013 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Logic, evidence, fulfilled prophecy, the current world state and reason prove Christianity is the truth. Other beliefs are lies from the devil. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47969136 Check. Denial of evidence, anger detected....truth is sinking in. Potato!...Derp Derp... That's how you sound... You're the kid with the padded helmet in the corner who screams and bites and kicks and shits himself if anyone tells him that mickey mouse isn't real. ALL religion is fucked and nothing more than outdated rehashes of ancient anthropomorphic personifications. ...if you don't understand that, then... TaterTater Derp derp scalloped derpyderp. Stalin, Hitler and Mao also hated religion. As does MSM. As doe those who are brainwashed by MSM. Think about it dude. Then in that aspect, they were completely sane individuals. I don't follow MSM. I am amazed daily at the spectacle of worldwide brainwashing. Go ahead, dude...waste your life following a book, or actually do some research that isn't self flagellation. You just completely contradicted yourself. Stalin, Hitler and Mao were completely sane individuals? Do you know anything about what they did to other human beings, and that what they did to those other people was directly linked to their humanist/socialistic/communistic beliefs? Jesus taught to love each other and take care of each other. The RCC uses His name for their own insane purposes over the centuries. The teachings of Christ have nothing to do with the wars of man. And Christianity is provably true, I linked to several pages of facts proving it. Whether you believe it or not is not relative. Though I wish you would, because Christ loves you and wants to save you. |