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I’m not a doctor or a nurse; nor have I ever possessed a medical license – past or present. Real or implied. For this reason it’d be illegal, immoral & irresponsible for me to advise anyone on medical treatment they may currently need or for any medical treatment they may need in the future.

Instead, I’d like to tell you a story. thumbs

Some stories are made to forget. Some stories should be remembered. Some are even important enough to write down just-in-case you’d like to accurately share the information without worrying that you’ve missed key details in the plot points.

Have you ever heard the analogy: ‘avoid them like the plague’

This term became popular for obvious reasons – many people, when faced with their own impending pandemic death….. will choose to save themselves no matter what the cost to their souls.

During the last plague in the mid 1600’s & even during the pandemic flu of 1918/1919 the ramped spread of disease caused people to act in such ways that they later could not live with themselves because of the extreme guilt of their actions in choosing their own lives as being more important than others.

The infections had such a high virility & mortality rate, that people feared going near anyone they even thought may be infected. It was just horrible – healthy parents abandoned their own sick children….. spouses left their mates….. longtime friends moved away knowing their neighbors were sick & contagious and needed someone to care for them.

The self-imposed quarantine had long lasting affects for the survivors on an emotional level….. feelings of remorse for what they had done in a desperate attempt to save their own lives - with little or no regard to others.

This had devastating consequences.

Many of these people sank into a depth of self-destruction during the recovery period. There are lots of examples of drug/alcohol addictions that developed afterwards. A life of solitude. Many even took their own lives because they couldn’t live with the guilt at what they had done to save their own necks from what they thought was certain death.

Truly unfathomable…… and a position that most of us would never want to be in. Most people would do what we could ‘pre-emptively’ – we’d choose to be pro-active and prepare in whatever ways we were able to do - if only we had the knowledge to do so.

I’ve come across many stories of people who lived through these epidemics. Stories handed down from one generation to the next. Some tales of great & valiant behavior. Many tales of cowardness. Some stood out as being self-righteous. Some stood out as being very brave. But whatever the behavior of these people….. there was a lesson to be learned with all of the stories if you looked a bit deeper.

What I found interesting & something that stood out were the stories surrounding some of the people who went around pillaging the homes of the people who were either sick, dying, or even dead. There were many of these stories…… small, unrelated groups of people that went from house to house with only bed sheets to gather their ‘treasures’ from their thievery. While people laid dying in their beds in these same dwellings, these people with balls of brass went from room to room collecting whatever they thought held any value.

House after house…..town after town. With no one standing in their way. No legal authority stepping up to take them off to jail for their deplorable behavior. They were free to do what they wanted…..and they did. For months & months. Scooped up a lifetime of treasures just because they somehow felt confident to go into these ‘contagious’ homes when no one else would.

How was that possible? How & why were they able to do this for months on end, and never become infected themselves?

I have no idea why/how or even who…… and of course, there’s no way I can know for certain if this is true, but what I read was that they all used some recipe consisting of natural berries, herbs & oils – that when combined, gave them the protection they needed for them to be resistant to the plague bacteria (yersinia pestis). This allowed them to go into these homes to pillage/steal the valuable items without fear of any backlash from the home owners. They’d simply waited until these little towns & villages became ‘ghost town-ish’ and they’d go in and scoop up the goodies.

The pillaging is real…… there’s plenty of references for it as well. You can google it.

In light of current events, I wanted to know what those ‘concoctions’ were…… cuz it’d probably come in ~very~ handy about right now, ya know? chuckle

Sadly, I couldn’t find any actual recipes.

note: I just felt all of the 'eye-rolling'..... lolsign

However, I did find lots of references that seemed to point to similar results with supplies that would be available to almost anyone on the planet in this point in time & space


*I’m requesting all the peeps in know of holistic, homeopathic, essential oils & alternative medicine knowledge to chime in here. Please & thank you! thumbs thumbs

What kept being mentioned was:

- 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide diluted with distilled water (dilution rate??) Use as a prevention (or when respiratory symptoms appear) – prevention is 10000% better – don’t let it get a foot-hold.

- Use in a netty pot….as an inhaler in a steamer (tea kettle/towel)…..and also as ear drops.

- must treat EARS....NOSE....and THROAT - all lead to your lungs/heart/respiratory tract.

- Safe for any ages (???) Babies (???)

- Be PRO-ACTIVE….. not unlike the people that take their daily vitamins every morning because they're trying to avoid getting sick and/or run down

- I also read that black walnut food oil (full strength) is good for the skin lesions that can develope (bulbous) – it’s also supposed to be good for acne, psoriasis, insect bites, burns etc - food grade - spend the money….. it’s well worth it.

I'll be patiently waiting for my alternative medicine peeps to confirm and/or deny this information as being useful. hf


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The oil used by the thieves in the times of the European plagues, seemed to protect them from the disease.

I suspect that its external application and smell, basically stopped the thieves from being bitten by fleas, which carried the plague organism.

From memory, the oil contained:
- clove oil
- rosemary oil
and another ingredient that I can't remember.

They wore the oil, they didn't ingest it, so it was a preventative for flea bites, not a cure for the plague.


The plague organism Yersinia Pestis, is able to make ATP hundreds of times faster in blood with low oxygen, and high sugar content. This blood is typical in people with a 'normal' western diet.
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get some Elderberry syrup, Boiron Oscillococcinum, Propolis-Raw Unprocessed,Olive Leaf Extract 90 Capsules 450 mg by Seagate, vit c ... not giving med advice but this is what i did when i came down with something 2 wks ago, im in tx. 2 hrs north of houston
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Great thread. Thanks for posting and thanks to all who contribute.
 Quoting: JasmineinNM


^^this^^ thumbs


Someone I know on staff at a major Dallas hospital reports a normally healthy 42yo & 56yo male dieing with flue.
They suggest getting the shot.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


verysad

(ps - I'm not an endorser of vaccines.....)

The oil used by the thieves in the times of the European plagues, seemed to protect them from the disease.

I suspect that its external application and smell, basically stopped the thieves from being bitten by fleas, which carried the plague organism.

From memory, the oil contained:
- clove oil
- rosemary oil
and another ingredient that I can't remember.

They wore the oil, they didn't ingest it, so it was a preventative for flea bites, not a cure for the plague.


The plague organism Yersinia Pestis, is able to make ATP hundreds of times faster in blood with low oxygen, and high sugar content. This blood is typical in people with a 'normal' western diet.
 Quoting: Mograth22



the flea treatment is somewhat plausible for initial infection - its also consistant with what I read about fleas hitching a ride with the cargo ships from China/Hong Kong in/around 1900's. But it doesn't address the later person-to-person transmission that happened.

what about the 1918 flu? that was respiratory in nature as well - not spread by rodents - however, it shared the same symptoms as what we've been reading about in the past few days.

extreme respiratory distress - patients 'drowning' in their own fluids......young & healthy adults dying within hours... any comments/theories on that?

do you know anything about the inhalants that were used for the 1918 flu? the ear drops/netty pots? to curb, prevent and/or treat the infection?

I'm still researching..... not even close to being ready to close the books..... I'm just trying to spread awareness

thanks for your info! hugs
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Eating orange peels also provides tremendous benefit. It’s not just the fruit that’s loaded with vitamin C, the rind is too, as well as vitamin A, enzymes, fiber, and pectin. Vitamin C is a fantastic immune system booster that can help fight the symptoms of cold and flu

[link to www.globalhealingcenter.com]

I use the orange/lemon peel in a lot of baked goods and stir fries

Braggs organic apple cider vinegar and pure honey mixed is very good too, although you have to put more honey than vinegar in the mix to be able to take it..lol

Amongst the many health benefits of honey, what is most impressive to me is that honey can be a powerful immune system booster. It's antioxidant and anti-bacterial properties can help improve digestive system and help you stay healthy and fight disease.

[link to www.benefits-of-honey.com]

USE YOUR FOOD - TO PROTECT YOU and stop with the expensive pills and shots.
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pneumonic woohoo plague





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Lot's of evidence that comets have brought plagues.
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That might include meteors, I don't know. Has there been amy meteors in the area. Curious?
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To my understanding.....it is not these little bugs which kill you.........but your own immune system (Cytokine Storm).


The immune system can have an unregulated over-reaction to an unusual invader.......and will go on a killing spree......killing both invader amd nearby healthy tissue.


That is why so many young died so quickly during 1918-19. Very strong immune systems of these younger people went wild.....and lung tissue was damaged......and they suffocated on fluid, blood, etc.


Makers of a bio-weapon would want to introduce a novel invader which would bring about Cytokine Storm.


Vitamin D3 helps to keep the immune system well regulated and less likely to Storm.
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get some Elderberry syrup, Boiron Oscillococcinum, Propolis-Raw Unprocessed,Olive Leaf Extract 90 Capsules 450 mg by Seagate, vit c ... not giving med advice but this is what i did when i came down with something 2 wks ago, im in tx. 2 hrs north of houston
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what's your opinion of any of ^that^ being preventative? or is it more for when symptoms appear?

note: I did read many references to the elderberry syrup as being a good remedy.... I just don't know much about it.

Peru plague cases update - just a couple of notes:

-this article sites 5 confirmed cases; other links had the numbers a little higher

-also - in 2012, there were only 6 confirmed cases of plague (total)


<snipped>

Since the outbreak began they have detected 5 confirmed cases of plague, one of them of septicemic plague, one of bubonic and pneumonic plague with the unfortunate death of a young man of 17 years, who infected of septicemic plague in the area of the fifth La Gloria of Mocán, Casa Grande, Ascope three.

Thus it was announced the regional manager of health freedom, José Evangelista who revealed that it is working untiring, both in the area of intervention and the different scenarios of sensitization and socialization of each one of the preventive measures on the plague, taking into account that it is the only way to avoid the contagion.

[link to www.microsofttranslator.com]

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*note: Saint Martin - I'm adding this one because of the confirmed cases of dengue in Texas, but this is only a BSL-2 virus

<snipped>

CARPHA said it had recently received notification of 10 confirmed cases of locally acquired chikungunya virus infection on the French side of the Caribbean island of Saint Martin. Chikungunya is a viral disease, carried mainly by the Aedes aegypti mosquito and causes a dengue-like sickness. Symptoms include a sudden high fever, severe pain in the wrists, ankles or knuckles, muscle pain, headache, nausea, and rash. Joint pain and stiffness are more common with chikungunya than with dengue.

The symptoms appear between four to seven days after the bite of an infected mosquito. The majority of clinical signs and symptoms last three to 10 days, but joint pain may persist longer.

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

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note: Arizona 'event in space' - I've never seen this documented at this particular link before. Found it odd, but it's probably nothing. Adding it just-in-case (comet/meteor dust theory)

<snipped>

Officials searched for the unidentified object in the area of SR-52 and Mission Gorge Road, but found nothing and said it was likely a meteor.

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]

possibly related (??) ------>

Thread: ATTENTION !!!! Calling all Astronomers tonight!!!

Thread: Super Bolide over Tennessee Last Night and another in Indiana!

Thread: They Are CHEMTRAILING the HELL Outta Cali Today!!!

Thread: HUGE Fireball seen all over the Southern US!

(please add any I missed) hf


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Thread: heyyyy youuuuuu guys, think you better see this, and get your head round it, it may be your last chance, (Page 12)
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Lot's of evidence that comets have brought plagues.
 Quoting: bigD111


That might include meteors, I don't know. Has there been amy meteors in the area. Curious?
 Quoting: bigD111




yeah.... It's something I've been thinking about as well - and there is some substantial information to lean that way as possibly being a cause or at least a HUGE factor.....

but celestial ~anything~ is not my strong-suit. I'm better geared toward being a viral/bacterial/fungi-tard! lolsign

note: altho I'm probably close to getting my associates in being a 'quake-tard'...... cute

requesting comet-tards & space-tard opinions please! hf
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My research into the 'Spanish Flu' showed the following:

- it was a USA biowarfare project gone wrong
- it started in the USA, spread to Europe, and returned to the USA
- it mutated from either lymphatic or circulatory versions into the respiratory system version, and that is when it went nuts
- it spread far and wide because of the incubation period
- it got given different names in different parts of the world, so as to mask the true death toll
- every nation on the planet lost people both to the official and the non-official versions of the disease

It was not a 'natural' disease - it was a biowarfare project that went horribly wrong, and for which nobody will ever be held accountable.
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My research into the 'Spanish Flu' showed the following:

- it was a USA biowarfare project gone wrong
- it started in the USA, spread to Europe, and returned to the USA
- it mutated from either lymphatic or circulatory versions into the respiratory system version, and that is when it went nuts
- it spread far and wide because of the incubation period
- it got given different names in different parts of the world, so as to mask the true death toll
- every nation on the planet lost people both to the official and the non-official versions of the disease

It was not a 'natural' disease - it was a biowarfare project that went horribly wrong, and for which nobody will ever be held accountable.
 Quoting: Mograth22


This is the first time I have heard this, do you have something to back this up?
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For those with a 'normal' western diet, wishing to avoid a hypothetical plague outbreak, I'd do the following:

- get lots of bicarb soda into your system

- have colloidal silver on hand

- get a cheap nebulizer (it turns the colloidal silver/water into a inhalable mist)

This not only kills ANY organism living in your lungs (and believe me, you ALL have lots in there right now), but it will get into your circulatory and lymphatic systems and kill any bad shit in there also.

I do NOT advocate taking colloidal silver every day if you are not sick. But if everyone around is coming down with disease, yes, take it a couple of times per day.

Preventing fleas from giving you the plague, is only good for the non-respiratory versions. Once people get the respiratory version, any cough sneeze or laughter can spread the organism to anyone 3-4 yards around you, or land on food and surfaces etc.
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My research into the 'Spanish Flu' showed the following:

- it was a USA biowarfare project gone wrong
- it started in the USA, spread to Europe, and returned to the USA
- it mutated from either lymphatic or circulatory versions into the respiratory system version, and that is when it went nuts
- it spread far and wide because of the incubation period
- it got given different names in different parts of the world, so as to mask the true death toll
- every nation on the planet lost people both to the official and the non-official versions of the disease

It was not a 'natural' disease - it was a biowarfare project that went horribly wrong, and for which nobody will ever be held accountable.
 Quoting: Mograth22




check your mail..... I know
you can't respond hf
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The oil used by the thieves in the times of the European plagues, seemed to protect them from the disease.

I suspect that its external application and smell, basically stopped the thieves from being bitten by fleas, which carried the plague organism.

From memory, the oil contained:
- clove oil
- rosemary oil
and another ingredient that I can't remember.

They wore the oil, they didn't ingest it, so it was a preventative for flea bites, not a cure for the plague.


The plague organism Yersinia Pestis, is able to make ATP hundreds of times faster in blood with low oxygen, and high sugar content. This blood is typical in people with a 'normal' western diet.
 Quoting: Mograth22


As well as those that worked around horses and/or used horse blankets to sleep in. Fleas do not like the smell of horses so avoided those that smelled of them. Natural flea repellent.
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The beginning of The Time Of Great Sorrows...
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pessimist sheeple = powerless people
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The beginning of The Time Of Great Sorrows...
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pessimist sheeple = powerless people
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I respectfully disagree - she's not a pessimist, nor is she a sheeple. She's a realist.

If you don't think we're about to enter a period of 'great sorrow'...... and I don't mean in a biblical/religious sense either..... you're sadly mistaken.

It doesn't matter what religion or race you are - I assure you..... we'll ~ALL~ feel the sorrow over the next several months. hf
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I live in San Antonio, TX. I flew here from Chicago on Friday night.

Unexplained cough, fever, mental fog and impaired motor skills. Cough started four days ago, the other symptoms started today.

Just started taking oil of oregano, lots of vitamin C, and I ordered some colloidal silver (MesoSilver). Apparently the elite families avoided getting the plague with silver.

Hopefully it's nothing worse than a common virus or bacterial infection.
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So what happened on day one, isn't that how these things start? Oh wait I saw this on Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman, we need to tack it to it's source to find the cure.
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I’m not a doctor or a nurse; nor have I ever possessed a medical license – past or present. Real or implied. For this reason it’d be illegal, immoral & irresponsible for me to advise anyone on medical treatment they may currently need or for any medical treatment they may need in the future.

Instead, I’d like to tell you a story. thumbs

Some stories are made to forget. Some stories should be remembered. Some are even important enough to write down just-in-case you’d like to accurately share the information without worrying that you’ve missed key details in the plot points.

Have you ever heard the analogy: ‘avoid them like the plague’

This term became popular for obvious reasons – many people, when faced with their own impending pandemic death….. will choose to save themselves no matter what the cost to their souls.

During the last plague in the mid 1600’s & even during the pandemic flu of 1918/1919 the ramped spread of disease caused people to act in such ways that they later could not live with themselves because of the extreme guilt of their actions in choosing their own lives as being more important than others.

The infections had such a high virility & mortality rate, that people feared going near anyone they even thought may be infected. It was just horrible – healthy parents abandoned their own sick children….. spouses left their mates….. longtime friends moved away knowing their neighbors were sick & contagious and needed someone to care for them.

The self-imposed quarantine had long lasting affects for the survivors on an emotional level….. feelings of remorse for what they had done in a desperate attempt to save their own lives - with little or no regard to others.

This had devastating consequences.

Many of these people sank into a depth of self-destruction during the recovery period. There are lots of examples of drug/alcohol addictions that developed afterwards. A life of solitude. Many even took their own lives because they couldn’t live with the guilt at what they had done to save their own necks from what they thought was certain death.

Truly unfathomable…… and a position that most of us would never want to be in. Most people would do what we could ‘pre-emptively’ – we’d choose to be pro-active and prepare in whatever ways we were able to do - if only we had the knowledge to do so.

I’ve come across many stories of people who lived through these epidemics. Stories handed down from one generation to the next. Some tales of great & valiant behavior. Many tales of cowardness. Some stood out as being self-righteous. Some stood out as being very brave. But whatever the behavior of these people….. there was a lesson to be learned with all of the stories if you looked a bit deeper.

What I found interesting & something that stood out were the stories surrounding some of the people who went around pillaging the homes of the people who were either sick, dying, or even dead. There were many of these stories…… small, unrelated groups of people that went from house to house with only bed sheets to gather their ‘treasures’ from their thievery. While people laid dying in their beds in these same dwellings, these people with balls of brass went from room to room collecting whatever they thought held any value.

House after house…..town after town. With no one standing in their way. No legal authority stepping up to take them off to jail for their deplorable behavior. They were free to do what they wanted…..and they did. For months & months. Scooped up a lifetime of treasures just because they somehow felt confident to go into these ‘contagious’ homes when no one else would.

How was that possible? How & why were they able to do this for months on end, and never become infected themselves?

I have no idea why/how or even who…… and of course, there’s no way I can know for certain if this is true, but what I read was that they all used some recipe consisting of natural berries, herbs & oils – that when combined, gave them the protection they needed for them to be resistant to the plague bacteria (yersinia pestis). This allowed them to go into these homes to pillage/steal the valuable items without fear of any backlash from the home owners. They’d simply waited until these little towns & villages became ‘ghost town-ish’ and they’d go in and scoop up the goodies.

The pillaging is real…… there’s plenty of references for it as well. You can google it.

In light of current events, I wanted to know what those ‘concoctions’ were…… cuz it’d probably come in ~very~ handy about right now, ya know? chuckle

Sadly, I couldn’t find any actual recipes.

note: I just felt all of the 'eye-rolling'..... lolsign

However, I did find lots of references that seemed to point to similar results with supplies that would be available to almost anyone on the planet in this point in time & space


*I’m requesting all the peeps in know of holistic, homeopathic, essential oils & alternative medicine knowledge to chime in here. Please & thank you! thumbs thumbs

What kept being mentioned was:

- 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide diluted with distilled water (dilution rate??) Use as a prevention (or when respiratory symptoms appear) – prevention is 10000% better – don’t let it get a foot-hold.

- Use in a netty pot….as an inhaler in a steamer (tea kettle/towel)…..and also as ear drops.

- must treat EARS....NOSE....and THROAT - all lead to your lungs/heart/respiratory tract.

- Safe for any ages (???) Babies (???)

- Be PRO-ACTIVE….. not unlike the people that take their daily vitamins every morning because they're trying to avoid getting sick and/or run down

- I also read that black walnut food oil (full strength) is good for the skin lesions that can develope (bulbous) – it’s also supposed to be good for acne, psoriasis, insect bites, burns etc - food grade - spend the money….. it’s well worth it.

I'll be patiently waiting for my alternative medicine peeps to confirm and/or deny this information as being useful. hf


thankyou444
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I live in San Antonio, TX. I flew here from Chicago on Friday night.

Unexplained cough, fever, mental fog and impaired motor skills. Cough started four days ago, the other symptoms started today.

Just started taking oil of oregano, lots of vitamin C, and I ordered some colloidal silver (MesoSilver). Apparently the elite families avoided getting the plague with silver.

Hopefully it's nothing worse than a common virus or bacterial infection.
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.....it's quite possible that's all it it. But please read the quoted text ^^up there^^ - and maybe run to the store tomorrow to get what you need?

if you can, let us know how you're doing, okay? hearts

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- Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes
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confirmed H1N1 Virus , local stations have been all over this
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Yes...Hold on to your hats...it could be an interesting flu season.

[link to www.recombinomics.com]

A bit of interesting information to go along with that:


"New Canadian studies suggest seasonal flu shot increased H1N1 risk"

"All four studies, the authors say, show that the seasonal flu vaccine was effective in that season, reducing cases of flu needing medical attention. But all four also show an increased risk of illness from pandemic flu among the vaccinated. The risks shown in the studies ranged from 1.19 to 3.20 times greater for those who received the seasonal vaccine than for those who did not."


[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu]

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I’m not a doctor or a nurse; nor have I ever possessed a medical license – past or present. Real or implied. For this reason it’d be illegal, immoral & irresponsible for me to advise anyone on medical treatment they may currently need or for any medical treatment they may need in the future.

Instead, I’d like to tell you a story. thumbs

Some stories are made to forget. Some stories should be remembered. Some are even important enough to write down just-in-case you’d like to accurately share the information without worrying that you’ve missed key details in the plot points.

Have you ever heard the analogy: ‘avoid them like the plague’

This term became popular for obvious reasons – many people, when faced with their own impending pandemic death….. will choose to save themselves no matter what the cost to their souls.

During the last plague in the mid 1600’s & even during the pandemic flu of 1918/1919 the ramped spread of disease caused people to act in such ways that they later could not live with themselves because of the extreme guilt of their actions in choosing their own lives as being more important than others.

The infections had such a high virility & mortality rate, that people feared going near anyone they even thought may be infected. It was just horrible – healthy parents abandoned their own sick children….. spouses left their mates….. longtime friends moved away knowing their neighbors were sick & contagious and needed someone to care for them.

The self-imposed quarantine had long lasting affects for the survivors on an emotional level….. feelings of remorse for what they had done in a desperate attempt to save their own lives - with little or no regard to others.

This had devastating consequences.

Many of these people sank into a depth of self-destruction during the recovery period. There are lots of examples of drug/alcohol addictions that developed afterwards. A life of solitude. Many even took their own lives because they couldn’t live with the guilt at what they had done to save their own necks from what they thought was certain death.

Truly unfathomable…… and a position that most of us would never want to be in. Most people would do what we could ‘pre-emptively’ – we’d choose to be pro-active and prepare in whatever ways we were able to do - if only we had the knowledge to do so.

I’ve come across many stories of people who lived through these epidemics. Stories handed down from one generation to the next. Some tales of great & valiant behavior. Many tales of cowardness. Some stood out as being self-righteous. Some stood out as being very brave. But whatever the behavior of these people….. there was a lesson to be learned with all of the stories if you looked a bit deeper.

What I found interesting & something that stood out were the stories surrounding some of the people who went around pillaging the homes of the people who were either sick, dying, or even dead. There were many of these stories…… small, unrelated groups of people that went from house to house with only bed sheets to gather their ‘treasures’ from their thievery. While people laid dying in their beds in these same dwellings, these people with balls of brass went from room to room collecting whatever they thought held any value.

House after house…..town after town. With no one standing in their way. No legal authority stepping up to take them off to jail for their deplorable behavior. They were free to do what they wanted…..and they did. For months & months. Scooped up a lifetime of treasures just because they somehow felt confident to go into these ‘contagious’ homes when no one else would.

How was that possible? How & why were they able to do this for months on end, and never become infected themselves?

I have no idea why/how or even who…… and of course, there’s no way I can know for certain if this is true, but what I read was that they all used some recipe consisting of natural berries, herbs & oils – that when combined, gave them the protection they needed for them to be resistant to the plague bacteria (yersinia pestis). This allowed them to go into these homes to pillage/steal the valuable items without fear of any backlash from the home owners. They’d simply waited until these little towns & villages became ‘ghost town-ish’ and they’d go in and scoop up the goodies.

The pillaging is real…… there’s plenty of references for it as well. You can google it.

In light of current events, I wanted to know what those ‘concoctions’ were…… cuz it’d probably come in ~very~ handy about right now, ya know? chuckle

Sadly, I couldn’t find any actual recipes.

note: I just felt all of the 'eye-rolling'..... lolsign

However, I did find lots of references that seemed to point to similar results with supplies that would be available to almost anyone on the planet in this point in time & space


*I’m requesting all the peeps in know of holistic, homeopathic, essential oils & alternative medicine knowledge to chime in here. Please & thank you! thumbs thumbs

What kept being mentioned was:

- 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide diluted with distilled water (dilution rate??) Use as a prevention (or when respiratory symptoms appear) – prevention is 10000% better – don’t let it get a foot-hold.

- Use in a netty pot….as an inhaler in a steamer (tea kettle/towel)…..and also as ear drops.

- must treat EARS....NOSE....and THROAT - all lead to your lungs/heart/respiratory tract.

- Safe for any ages (???) Babies (???)

- Be PRO-ACTIVE….. not unlike the people that take their daily vitamins every morning because they're trying to avoid getting sick and/or run down

- I also read that black walnut food oil (full strength) is good for the skin lesions that can develope (bulbous) – it’s also supposed to be good for acne, psoriasis, insect bites, burns etc - food grade - spend the money….. it’s well worth it.

I'll be patiently waiting for my alternative medicine peeps to confirm and/or deny this information as being useful. hf


:thankyou444:
 Quoting: ladyannie2009


I live in San Antonio, TX. I flew here from Chicago on Friday night.

Unexplained cough, fever, mental fog and impaired motor skills. Cough started four days ago, the other symptoms started today.

Just started taking oil of oregano, lots of vitamin C, and I ordered some colloidal silver (MesoSilver). Apparently the elite families avoided getting the plague with silver.

Hopefully it's nothing worse than a common virus or bacterial infection.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966993



.....it's quite possible that's all it it. But please read the quoted text ^^up there^^ - and maybe run to the store tomorrow to get what you need?

if you can, let us know how you're doing, okay? hearts

:bighug:
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Thank you so much, love. Will try those things as well. hf
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The beginning of The Time Of Great Sorrows...
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pessimist sheeple = powerless people
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I respectfully disagree - she's not a pessimist, nor is she a sheeple. She's a realist.

If you don't think we're about to enter a period of 'great sorrow'...... and I don't mean in a biblical/religious sense either..... you're sadly mistaken.

It doesn't matter what religion or race you are - I assure you..... we'll ~ALL~ feel the sorrow over the next several months. hf
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All of this!!! hf
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Its called theives oil

Contains:

Clove oil
cinnamon oil
lemon oil
eucalyptus oil
and thyme oil

You can buy it premixed but if you mix yourself its not equal parts be sure to look up the ratios. Also oil of oregeno is very powerful in combatting these things
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I’m not a doctor or a nurse; nor have I ever possessed a medical license – past or present. Real or implied. For this reason it’d be illegal, immoral & irresponsible for me to advise anyone on medical treatment they may currently need or for any medical treatment they may need in the future.

Instead, I’d like to tell you a story. thumbs

Some stories are made to forget. Some stories should be remembered. Some are even important enough to write down just-in-case you’d like to accurately share the information without worrying that you’ve missed key details in the plot points.

Have you ever heard the analogy: ‘avoid them like the plague’

This term became popular for obvious reasons – many people, when faced with their own impending pandemic death….. will choose to save themselves no matter what the cost to their souls.

During the last plague in the mid 1600’s & even during the pandemic flu of 1918/1919 the ramped spread of disease caused people to act in such ways that they later could not live with themselves because of the extreme guilt of their actions in choosing their own lives as being more important than others.

The infections had such a high virility & mortality rate, that people feared going near anyone they even thought may be infected. It was just horrible – healthy parents abandoned their own sick children….. spouses left their mates….. longtime friends moved away knowing their neighbors were sick & contagious and needed someone to care for them.

The self-imposed quarantine had long lasting affects for the survivors on an emotional level….. feelings of remorse for what they had done in a desperate attempt to save their own lives - with little or no regard to others.

This had devastating consequences.

Many of these people sank into a depth of self-destruction during the recovery period. There are lots of examples of drug/alcohol addictions that developed afterwards. A life of solitude. Many even took their own lives because they couldn’t live with the guilt at what they had done to save their own necks from what they thought was certain death.

Truly unfathomable…… and a position that most of us would never want to be in. Most people would do what we could ‘pre-emptively’ – we’d choose to be pro-active and prepare in whatever ways we were able to do - if only we had the knowledge to do so.

I’ve come across many stories of people who lived through these epidemics. Stories handed down from one generation to the next. Some tales of great & valiant behavior. Many tales of cowardness. Some stood out as being self-righteous. Some stood out as being very brave. But whatever the behavior of these people….. there was a lesson to be learned with all of the stories if you looked a bit deeper.

What I found interesting & something that stood out were the stories surrounding some of the people who went around pillaging the homes of the people who were either sick, dying, or even dead. There were many of these stories…… small, unrelated groups of people that went from house to house with only bed sheets to gather their ‘treasures’ from their thievery. While people laid dying in their beds in these same dwellings, these people with balls of brass went from room to room collecting whatever they thought held any value.

House after house…..town after town. With no one standing in their way. No legal authority stepping up to take them off to jail for their deplorable behavior. They were free to do what they wanted…..and they did. For months & months. Scooped up a lifetime of treasures just because they somehow felt confident to go into these ‘contagious’ homes when no one else would.

How was that possible? How & why were they able to do this for months on end, and never become infected themselves?

I have no idea why/how or even who…… and of course, there’s no way I can know for certain if this is true, but what I read was that they all used some recipe consisting of natural berries, herbs & oils – that when combined, gave them the protection they needed for them to be resistant to the plague bacteria (yersinia pestis). This allowed them to go into these homes to pillage/steal the valuable items without fear of any backlash from the home owners. They’d simply waited until these little towns & villages became ‘ghost town-ish’ and they’d go in and scoop up the goodies.

The pillaging is real…… there’s plenty of references for it as well. You can google it.

In light of current events, I wanted to know what those ‘concoctions’ were…… cuz it’d probably come in ~very~ handy about right now, ya know? chuckle

Sadly, I couldn’t find any actual recipes.

note: I just felt all of the 'eye-rolling'..... lolsign

However, I did find lots of references that seemed to point to similar results with supplies that would be available to almost anyone on the planet in this point in time & space


*I’m requesting all the peeps in know of holistic, homeopathic, essential oils & alternative medicine knowledge to chime in here. Please & thank you! thumbs thumbs

What kept being mentioned was:

- 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide diluted with distilled water (dilution rate??) Use as a prevention (or when respiratory symptoms appear) – prevention is 10000% better – don’t let it get a foot-hold.

- Use in a netty pot….as an inhaler in a steamer (tea kettle/towel)…..and also as ear drops.

- must treat EARS....NOSE....and THROAT - all lead to your lungs/heart/respiratory tract.

- Safe for any ages (???) Babies (???)

- Be PRO-ACTIVE….. not unlike the people that take their daily vitamins every morning because they're trying to avoid getting sick and/or run down

- I also read that black walnut food oil (full strength) is good for the skin lesions that can develope (bulbous) – it’s also supposed to be good for acne, psoriasis, insect bites, burns etc - food grade - spend the money….. it’s well worth it.

I'll be patiently waiting for my alternative medicine peeps to confirm and/or deny this information as being useful. hf


thankyou444
 Quoting: ladyannie2009


I live in San Antonio, TX. I flew here from Chicago on Friday night.

Unexplained cough, fever, mental fog and impaired motor skills. Cough started four days ago, the other symptoms started today.

Just started taking oil of oregano, lots of vitamin C, and I ordered some colloidal silver (MesoSilver). Apparently the elite families avoided getting the plague with silver.

Hopefully it's nothing worse than a common virus or bacterial infection.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966993



.....it's quite possible that's all it it. But please read the quoted text ^^up there^^ - and maybe run to the store tomorrow to get what you need?

if you can, let us know how you're doing, okay? hearts

bighug
 Quoting: ladyannie2009


Thank you so much, love. Will try those things as well. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30966993



you're most welcome..... verycool
"the truth will stand up, when nothing else will"
- annie's mom

"When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for."
- Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes
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Its called theives oil

Contains:

Clove oil
cinnamon oil
lemon oil
eucalyptus oil
and thyme oil

You can buy it premixed but if you mix yourself its not equal parts be sure to look up the ratios. Also oil of oregeno is very powerful in combatting these things
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26843138




now we're getting somewhere! ohyeah


researching.......




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- annie's mom

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- Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes
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Its getting bad.
Stay out of Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.
If you are IN these states, get out now before
the borders are closed and the states quarantined.
Hurry.
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Its getting bad.
Stay out of Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.
If you are IN these states, get out now before
the borders are closed and the states quarantined.
Hurry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51701655




....don't scaremonger. It's not nice. Offer some advice, a suggestion relative to the thread, or just inject something funny to bring down the adrenaline.

But don't try and instill panic. Our govt has that end covered..... thumbs



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"the truth will stand up, when nothing else will"
- annie's mom

"When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for."
- Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes
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Its getting bad.
Stay out of Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.
If you are IN these states, get out now before
the borders are closed and the states quarantined.
Hurry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51701655


this ... hurry and leave
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Thieves Oil
20 drops clove essential oil
18 drops lemon essential oil
10 drops cinnamon bark essential oil
8 drops eucalyptus essential oil
5 drops rosemary essential oil

[link to www.theprairiehomestead.com]
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Its getting bad.
Stay out of Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.
If you are IN these states, get out now before
the borders are closed and the states quarantined.
Hurry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51701655




....don't scaremonger. It's not nice. Offer some advice, a suggestion relative to the thread, or just inject something funny to bring down the adrenaline.

But don't try and instill panic. Our govt has that end covered..... thumbs



:potatopoo:
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clappa
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