WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds

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WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds
Ag47 Offer Upgrade User ID: 51029943 United States 12/04/2013 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds And I mean no disrespect, as I too am a Walker-tard. Too many inconsistencies and strange circumstances surrounding this, and now CNN puts out an article that raises even more suspicion. Paul Walker's death: Video shows car erupted in flames after 60 seconds [link to www.cnn.com] Santa Clarita, California (CNN) -- The fire that engulfed the Porsche carrying actor Paul Walker apparently did not erupt until a minute after the car clipped a light pole Saturday. That conclusion is based on security camera video obtained by CNN that shows black smoke starting to rise from the crash scene 60 seconds after it shows the light pole and a tree falling. Could Walker and the other occupant in the car have made it out in those 60 seconds? That's hard to tell. The two may have died on impact when the car struck the light pole. The answer might be clearer when the coroner's office releases its preliminary findings of the autopsies of the remains of two men -- presumed to be Walker and friend Roger Rodas, a coroner's officer said. The autopsies were completed Tuesday, Los Angeles County Coroner Lt. Fred Corral said. But investigators have placed a "security hold" on it for now. The coroner will not even disclose if the identities have been confirmed using dental X-rays. Officially, the dead are only identified as case numbers. Corral did not give a reason for the secrecy, which can be requested by law enforcement agencies during an investigation. It is often done in cases involving criminal probes, but there has been no indication this is anything more than a traffic accident investigation. The autopsies should be able to confirm whether Rodas, as witnesses reported, was behind the wheel with Walker in the passenger seat. Video obtained by CNN Tuesday from a security camera posted on a building on the opposite side of the street from the crash does not show the Porsche Carerra GT crashing along a business park street in Valencia, California, Saturday afternoon. It does show the light pole and tree falling. Smoke is faintly visible above the scene 60 seconds later, followed by a heavy plume of black smoke after two minutes. ... Using a police car's loudspeaker, actor Vin Diesel thanked a crowd of mourning fans, calling Walker an "angel up in Heaven." Every night since the crash fans have gathered and left mementos near the spot on a wide business park road in Valencia, California, about 30 miles north of Hollywood, according to Walker's publicist and CNN affiliate KCAL. ... Is the Porsche Carrera GT too dangerous?(Sidebar video) Witness: Walker was not drag racing(Sidebar video) ... The actor had told his father that he wanted to take a hiatus from acting to spend more time with his 15-year-old daughter, Meadow, the elder Walker said. "And then boom, he got another movie. He would say, 'I don't know what to do.'" ... "It's comforting for them to know that the son, brother, and father they love so much is equally adored, respected, and appreciated by so many," the statement said. "Paul founded the organization with the genuine desire to help others, and it's important to his family to keep his memory alive through ROWW." ... How fast? Meanwhile a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office probe is focused on the speed of the 2005 Porsche Carrera GT, the spokesman told CNN. Sheriff's Sgt. Richard Cohen told CNN that authorities received a tip Sunday suggesting that another car was at the scene racing the Porsche when it slammed into a light pole and burst into flames. But investigators have since ruled out the presence of a second vehicle and the theory that the Porsche was drag racing, a spokesman said Monday afternoon. But speed was a factor in the crash, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office said. A 45-mph speed limit sign was attached to the light pole knocked down by the Porsche. The car, which sold for $450,000 when new, is a notoriously difficult vehicle to handle, even for professional drivers, according to Autoweek magazine. A top driver called it "scary," the magazine reported Sunday. It is powered by a V-10, 610-hp engine. The wreck took place about 3:30 p.m. Saturday. ... "We all heard from our location," Holmes told the Signal. "It's a little difficult to know what it was. Someone called it in and said it was a vehicle fire. We all ran around and jumped in cars and grabbed fire extinguishers and immediately went to the vehicle. It was engulfed in flames. There was nothing. They were trapped. Employees, friends of the shop. We tried. We tried. We went through fire extinguishers." ... Torp thought he heard a blast in the distance before the car slammed into a light pole, he said. "What the first explosion was -- I don't know if their tire blew up, because it sounded like a tire blew on the car," Torp told CNN Monday. Skid marks on the asphalt near the crash site, which indicate a car was doing doughnut spins, also are being examined, Cohen said. It's not uncommon for people to speed down that street, and two years ago deputies tried to crack down on that, he said. Torp told CNN that he looked closely at the skid marks and concluded they were left by a car with smaller tires. ... The day Walker died he was at a holiday toy drive for Walker's charity hosted by the store that Rodas owned. Walker and Rodas had planned Saturday as a day to help survivors of Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines. The car shop website invited customers to a "Charity Toy Drive & Automotive Social Gathering." "During the holiday season, many economically disadvantaged children from around the world are faced with the same dilemma year after year; the lacking of joy and cheer," the invitation read. "Our goal here is to be able to provide aid to these less fortunate children in hopes of helping them grow up to become confident, responsible and productive young adults." ... Walker also is the star of "Hours," an independent film scheduled to be released December 13 about a father struggling to keep his newborn infant alive in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. Walker was in the middle of the seventh film in the "Fast & Furious" franchise. The film was due out next year. It's unclear how the movie's production might proceed. When Oliver Reed died in the middle of the production of "Gladiator," the rest of his scenes included a digitally produced image of his face on another actor's body, Tom O'Neil, editor of the show business website Goldderby.com, told CNN. Last Edited by Ag47 on 12/04/2013 02:30 AM

Dace User ID: 982248 Puerto Rico 12/04/2013 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18266942 United States 12/04/2013 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace doesnt look like him....
Ag47 (OP) User ID: 51029943 United States 12/04/2013 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace I hadn't seen those, I only followed this closely on the night it was developing. Are they supposedly "official" pics? If so, I'd say that is a huge red flag in itself.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9847616 United States 12/04/2013 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds So Doom Off??
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18266942 United States 12/04/2013 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace I hadn't seen those, I only followed this closely on the night it was developing. Are they supposedly "official" pics? If so, I'd say that is a huge red flag in itself. Quoting: Ag47 [link to urbanlegends.about.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29860095 United States 12/04/2013 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace That dude in the picture you saw actually lived. Here is the link. [link to www.africastories.org] That CNN guy kept saying they were struggling to get out... I have no doubt in my they died at impact.
Ag47 (OP) User ID: 51029943 United States 12/04/2013 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace I hadn't seen those, I only followed this closely on the night it was developing. Are they supposedly "official" pics? If so, I'd say that is a huge red flag in itself. Quoting: Ag47 [link to urbanlegends.about.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18266942 Haha, who the fuck is that guy to tell us what to share or not to share? I think I'll send the pic to everyone I know! Lol. Attention Internet: Paul Walker 'Death Photo' Is a Hoax By David Emery December 1, 2013 "If you see a graphic image purporting to show facial injuries sustained by Paul Walker in his fatal car crash on Saturday, don't share it..."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18266942 United States 12/04/2013 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace I hadn't seen those, I only followed this closely on the night it was developing. Are they supposedly "official" pics? If so, I'd say that is a huge red flag in itself. Quoting: Ag47 [link to urbanlegends.about.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18266942 Haha, who the fuck is that guy to tell us what to share or not to share? I think I'll send the pic to everyone I know! Lol. Attention Internet: Paul Walker 'Death Photo' Is a Hoax By David Emery December 1, 2013 "If you see a graphic image purporting to show facial injuries sustained by Paul Walker in his fatal car crash on Saturday, don't share it..." Quoting: Ag47 LOL
Dace User ID: 982248 Puerto Rico 12/04/2013 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace That dude in the picture you saw actually lived. Here is the link. [link to www.africastories.org] That CNN guy kept saying they were struggling to get out... I have no doubt in my they died at impact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29860095 Cool....well...not 'cool', but makes sense now. =-) That pic came up at the end of most of the YT vids I've seen since it happened....whoever posted that is a total douche.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37214577 Canada 12/04/2013 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds Drone on or drone off?

Anonymous Coward User ID: 49488114 United States 12/04/2013 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds Well lets see if the car didnt explode for 60 seconds after hitting light pole then the projectile in the videos is not the falling light pole like some debunkers have tried to say explains the video images below Is it a drone missle? not sure sure would like to get still images of object posted below if anyone knows how to embed still shots please do for those who have not seen [link to s86i.img-up.net] [link to www.youtube.com] and original TMZ you will have to look closely at 0:03 and 0:13-0:14 [link to www.tmz.com] PS police report said car traveling 40-45 MPH
Ag47 (OP) User ID: 51029943 United States 12/04/2013 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds Well lets see if the car didnt explode for 60 seconds after hitting light pole then the projectile in the videos is not the falling light pole like some debunkers have tried to say explains the video images below Is it a drone missle? not sure sure would like to get still images of object posted below if anyone knows how to embed still shots please do for those who have not seen [link to s86i.img-up.net] [link to www.youtube.com] and original TMZ you will have to look closely at 0:03 and 0:13-0:14 [link to www.tmz.com] PS police report said car traveling 40-45 MPH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49488114 Are you serious?? The police report says 40-45mph?
Dace User ID: 982248 Puerto Rico 12/04/2013 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds Drone on or drone off? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37214577 Drone off, it seems... But also... When you watch the new CNN vid.... fullscreen it and look toward the windows in the building. When the car hits, you'll see something go flying to the left through the air..
Dace User ID: 982248 Puerto Rico 12/04/2013 03:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds Well lets see if the car didnt explode for 60 seconds after hitting light pole then the projectile in the videos is not the falling light pole like some debunkers have tried to say explains the video images below Is it a drone missle? not sure sure would like to get still images of object posted below if anyone knows how to embed still shots please do for those who have not seen [link to s86i.img-up.net] [link to www.youtube.com] and original TMZ you will have to look closely at 0:03 and 0:13-0:14 [link to www.tmz.com] PS police report said car traveling 40-45 MPH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49488114 Are you serious?? The police report says 40-45mph? Quoting: Ag47 It said 40-45.....but the cnn page says the sheriff's dept is looking into possible speeding.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29860095 United States 12/04/2013 03:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds First off where's the crater? Even a small missile would have left a crater in soft asphalt. Second, the police did not say that. They said that was the speed limit. The police have said he was doing 100+ mph. The original tweet was a miscommunication.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18266942 United States 12/04/2013 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds one could calculate the speed by the time in between the dropping of the pole and two other trees....
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37214577 Canada 12/04/2013 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds First off where's the crater? Even a small missile would have left a crater in soft asphalt. Second, the police did not say that. They said that was the speed limit. The police have said he was doing 100+ mph. The original tweet was a miscommunication. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29860095 Just a thought: Drones don't have to be expensive, especially when they themselves are the explosive, they also don't have to have serious projectile strength when they are programmed to blow on contact... or UAVs, for that matter.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37214577 Canada 12/04/2013 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds Just a thought: Drones don't have to be expensive, especially when they themselves are the explosive, they also don't have to have serious projectile strength when they are programmed to blow on contact... or UAVs, for that matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37214577 I guess a drone is a UAV, but remote controlled is what I was getting at.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51033882 United States 12/04/2013 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds gys I hit a telephone pole over a serious incident and totaled my car but came out with out a scratch -there is some serious bullshit going on here
Ag47 (OP) User ID: 51029943 United States 12/04/2013 03:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds First off where's the crater? Even a small missile would have left a crater in soft asphalt. Second, the police did not say that. They said that was the speed limit. The police have said he was doing 100+ mph. The original tweet was a miscommunication. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29860095 I'm not saying it was a drone strike, though it is a possibility, and I know a lot of GLPers have spent quite a few pages hypothesizing that. But something isn't right about this, whether it's a hoax (let's not forget the hoax report from allegedly the day before the wreck), possibly remote hijacking of vehicle, or whatever. As for the speed limit, that makes more sense, I can't imagine the cops would expect anyone to believe that kind of damage happened at 45mph. Last Edited by Ag47 on 12/04/2013 03:29 AM
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18266942 United States 12/04/2013 03:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds one could calculate the speed by the time in between the dropping of the pole and two other trees.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18266942 102 mph- 153mph about...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51033882 United States 12/04/2013 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds That man was AN actor -he took risks but not like this-This is bullshit all the way --- A major player and actor just gonna go an spinout on a tree ?? wake up you idiots!!!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18266942 United States 12/04/2013 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds speed = distance divided by time
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51033882 United States 12/04/2013 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds The man loved his family did not want to party in Hollywood and stuff - He is some one I recall - anyways that is the reality of satanic fucks and Hollywood!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51033882 United States 12/04/2013 03:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds how about satanic fucks - crazy fuckers and political butt fuckers!

Anonymous Coward User ID: 18266942 United States 12/04/2013 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds The man loved his family did not want to party in Hollywood and stuff - He is some one I recall - anyways that is the reality of satanic fucks and Hollywood! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51033882
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51033882 United States 12/04/2013 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I apologize to a point but this is real and you wannebe people it is coming to you and your family considering the news!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51034530 United States 12/04/2013 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I wonder why there's been pics of Walker's split face going 'round the net almost since it happened.. but yet CNN and the coroner today can't say whether he was in the car or not and/or burned or mangled to the point of dental records. Quoting: Dace It's not him. I saw their burnt bodies in a pic, pretty gruesome and sad :(
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51033882 United States 12/04/2013 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds I am seriously laughing my ass off right now -obviously you cannot or will not comprehend my friend - I am done on this -there is an amazing amount of stupid out there!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29860095 United States 12/04/2013 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: WALKER-TARDS: Pick This Apart- CNN: Paul Walker's Death: Video Shows Car Erupted in Flames After 60 Seconds That man was AN actor -he took risks but not like this-This is bullshit all the way --- A major player and actor just gonna go an spinout on a tree ?? wake up you idiots!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51033882 That's not true TMZ has a video where he admits to driving at 185 on the freeway [link to www.tmz.com] Furthermore the Porsche CGT amplifies the already dangerous rear engine, high horsepower, no traction control, driven by somebody who does not respect the car. The Porsche test drivers were scared of that car and reportedly begged for traction control to be added, and plus Jay Leno almost killed himself in on at Talladega. [link to www.youtube.com]
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