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Can I justify my own existence?

 
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Can I justify my own existence?
I am within a place....where to have or continue existence I must utilize another being for my own gain.

I cannot prove otherwise.......even though I have considered every option or opinion which I can become aware of.

My physical form dictates that I consume another being, animal or plant.......even water has its own awareness.
The spoken word here....decides a hierarchy which within is an exchange of energy and belief.
This exchange is seldom equal.......it is a use of another to further the self....yes the same as this post. (lol.......in fact by replying to this post you 'give' energy to me....and by NOT replying to this post, you still give energy to me as I then can consider your 'voice' of no value even though you did read it and this is shown)

To allow the use of another species or in fact the planet without trying to change things is an incorrect nature.
But.......to change things within another....is also wrong as it will use their being and turn it to your own.

How can I change things.......I cannot as this means that I remove responsibility from others, and I become responsible for them and their , now mine, action into a future.

How can one 'be'....by using others?

But if I do not change things for the better....then I become less and fail.......but what is better? And who's better would that encompass?

I am connected to others actions by my non action by becoming complicit to that which they have done and I have then allowed through my knowledge of the act.
This then would be enough.......to limit my being once again. (so a 'return')

I know that you find this very hard and harsh to understand but....IF I DO NOT ACT, THEN OTHERS ACTIONS OF WHICH I HAVE KNOWLEDGE BECOME MINE by my non action and then being complicit to the act.
But.......IF I ACT, THEN I REMOVE RESPONSIBILITY FROM ALL OTHERS AND DETERMINE THEIR FATE BY MY ACTIONS.

But I cannot 'leave'....as through my own administration of being, I decided or volunteered to become here.......as a physical form....unless I am 'trapped' here?

There must be a reasoning to this existence....else there is NO POINT.

Live, procreate,die.......continue en masse to further a NOTHING....for NO REASON.

If you state that your reasoning for being is children.......then you are an IMBECILE, this point of view is not of a considered nature and you are indoctrinated.
Their is NO valid point of reference you can post which will, nor can support your stupidity in further allowing all else to suffer by your personal need to have sex and bring more souled beings here.

No just nor loving GOD would create this place.......as NO being of a self considered nature....and regarding all else.......would create this.

Really....take a step back and CONSIDER THIS

NO god would create this place, who IS a 'loving' god

Everything has to use or/and consume everything else to just 'be'

To live....to have awareness.......to have consciousness

No LOVING GOD would make you consume each other

nor would a loving god....make EVERYTHING upon this earth.......EAT everything else

But in hell....this could be the truth?

I am not attempting to make you 'believe' this post (understand....it makes you my responsibility)

I am trying to get you to consider what you are....and WHERE you are

Look around your world.......look and see the 'true' interactions within the beauty you perceive and consume through the energy your physical form requires.

So can I say that this post is correct for you.......NO

it is your responsibility and your designed fate....it is also YOUR prison and it is structured so that you fail.......multiple times
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"What good have you done for humanity?"
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"What good have you done for humanity?"
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Well that is not for me to judge....also it is not of a concern for me as 'humanity' would understand the above post.

That which is 'being' upon this realm.......I cannot state as 'humanity'.

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if you are here then you are supposed to be here, even if it is to piss people off and grate on them as sandpaper to mold and make them into better human beings. everyone has a purpose.
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"What good have you done for humanity?"
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Well that is not for me to judge....also it is not of a concern for me as 'humanity' would understand the above post.

That which is 'being' upon this realm.......I cannot state as 'humanity'.

tounge
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Whatever you say.
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I am within a place....where to have or continue existence I must utilize another being for my own gain.

I cannot prove otherwise.......even though I have considered every option or opinion which I can become aware of.

My physical form dictates that I consume another being, animal or plant.......even water has its own awareness.
The spoken word here....decides a hierarchy which within is an exchange of energy and belief.
This exchange is seldom equal.......it is a use of another to further the self....yes the same as this post. (lol.......in fact by replying to this post you 'give' energy to me....and by NOT replying to this post, you still give energy to me as I then can consider your 'voice' of no value even though you did read it and this is shown)

To allow the use of another species or in fact the planet without trying to change things is an incorrect nature.
But.......to change things within another....is also wrong as it will use their being and turn it to your own.

How can I change things.......I cannot as this means that I remove responsibility from others, and I become responsible for them and their , now mine, action into a future.

How can one 'be'....by using others?

But if I do not change things for the better....then I become less and fail.......but what is better? And who's better would that encompass?

I am connected to others actions by my non action by becoming complicit to that which they have done and I have then allowed through my knowledge of the act.
This then would be enough.......to limit my being once again. (so a 'return')

I know that you find this very hard and harsh to understand but....IF I DO NOT ACT, THEN OTHERS ACTIONS OF WHICH I HAVE KNOWLEDGE BECOME MINE by my non action and then being complicit to the act.
But.......IF I ACT, THEN I REMOVE RESPONSIBILITY FROM ALL OTHERS AND DETERMINE THEIR FATE BY MY ACTIONS.

But I cannot 'leave'....as through my own administration of being, I decided or volunteered to become here.......as a physical form....unless I am 'trapped' here?

There must be a reasoning to this existence....else there is NO POINT.

Live, procreate,die.......continue en masse to further a NOTHING....for NO REASON.

If you state that your reasoning for being is children.......then you are an IMBECILE, this point of view is not of a considered nature and you are indoctrinated.
Their is NO valid point of reference you can post which will, nor can support your stupidity in further allowing all else to suffer by your personal need to have sex and bring more souled beings here.

No just nor loving GOD would create this place.......as NO being of a self considered nature....and regarding all else.......would create this.

Really....take a step back and CONSIDER THIS

NO god would create this place, who IS a 'loving' god

Everything has to use or/and consume everything else to just 'be'

To live....to have awareness.......to have consciousness

No LOVING GOD would make you consume each other

nor would a loving god....make EVERYTHING upon this earth.......EAT everything else

But in hell....this could be the truth?

I am not attempting to make you 'believe' this post (understand....it makes you my responsibility)

I am trying to get you to consider what you are....and WHERE you are

Look around your world.......look and see the 'true' interactions within the beauty you perceive and consume through the energy your physical form requires.

So can I say that this post is correct for you.......NO

it is your responsibility and your designed fate....it is also YOUR prison and it is structured so that you fail.......multiple times
 Quoting: forty seven


The problem is too much thinking.
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if you are here then you are supposed to be here, even if it is to piss people off and grate on them as sandpaper to mold and make them into better human beings. everyone has a purpose.
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Defined and molded by WHOM?

Consider that you are not meant to be here....and 'here' is not a place in which YOU should be?
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You've gone off to secular humanism land. When you get your head out of your butt, you will realize that you were made by God for God and then you will be recovered. Hopefully you will find Jesus Christ and salvation before it is too late for you. We are all dangerously guilty and need a savior.
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"What good have you done for humanity?"
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Well that is not for me to judge....also it is not of a concern for me as 'humanity' would understand the above post.

That which is 'being' upon this realm.......I cannot state as 'humanity'.

tounge
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Whatever you say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50086269


Now that shows self intelligence....giving to another the responsibility of your own limitations.

But.......as posted.......I will not accept.
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Cycle.

We are born

We die.

Just don't be a douche.

Your thinking is nihilistic in it's approach. The perfect sense of order is nothingness because in nothing chaos cannot exist.

In your life, yes you consume, you produce, just ensure you are linked in with a personal cycle, and don't abuse it for self gain.

Sounds like you are riding a hard road of self loathing and guilt, and it sounds like it is personally manufactured, and the root of this rant is something bothering outside of these existential reasons you are giving.

To be alive is to struggle. Is that not the point? If everything existed in perfection and harmony, life would be boring, and to be given the ability to think and reason isn't our place to attempt to struggle for the right reasons?
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"What good have you done for humanity?"
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Well that is not for me to judge....also it is not of a concern for me as 'humanity' would understand the above post.

That which is 'being' upon this realm.......I cannot state as 'humanity'.

tounge
 Quoting: forty seven

Whatever you say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50086269


Now that shows self intelligence....giving to another the responsibility of your own limitations.

But.......as posted.......I will not accept.
 Quoting: forty seven


Whatever you say.
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you are here to serve those above you
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All is above that which I am here....but none are in more favor.......nor will any limit THEIR count

to consider one is above another decrees a self evaluation which cannot be just....and will not be serviced
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Well that is not for me to judge....also it is not of a concern for me as 'humanity' would understand the above post.

That which is 'being' upon this realm.......I cannot state as 'humanity'.

tounge
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Whatever you say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50086269


Now that shows self intelligence....giving to another the responsibility of your own limitations.

But.......as posted.......I will not accept.
 Quoting: forty seven


Whatever you say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50086269


luv ya....but ditto

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The problem is too much thinking.
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Ok....so is there a purpose to having an awareness.......and NOT considering said?
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Whatever you say.
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Now that shows self intelligence....giving to another the responsibility of your own limitations.

But.......as posted.......I will not accept.
 Quoting: forty seven


Whatever you say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50086269


luv ya....but ditto

yousuck
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Whatever.
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You've gone off to secular humanism land. When you get your head out of your butt, you will realize that you were made by God for God and then you will be recovered. Hopefully you will find Jesus Christ and salvation before it is too late for you. We are all dangerously guilty and need a savior.
 Quoting: BunBun


Thank you for your opinion....and whilst I disagree.......I wish you to be well

but will direct you to this....lol
WHAT excatly would your saviour had said about children whom die at this point upon this gods earth

At least he did go and whip the fucking bankers.......he stood for moral reasoning not fucked sheep....

would he not have given his own garments to cloth them.......leaving him naked as his father created him and would he not have hungered and thirsted even to death of the flesh....so as to save only one of them.......

now look at your fucking man made religion....and tell me what use are your churches, covered in gold, this 'pope' wearing enough to feed and satisfied the thirst of thousands.......just in his fucking clothes' for gods sake....

even in your own book....written by man.......your god states

 Quoting: 47

do not worship me under hewn stone
 Quoting: GOD Exodus 20:25

this, by your own laws
....determines that ALL of your churches are against the will of your god.......WTF
 Quoting: 47


hf

and please....do not try to examine nor re-tell the words of your own GOD
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Oh man, these situations really start to annoy me bigtime. I'm not talking about the things posted here.

I'm talking about, OP, you are surrounded BY IDIOTS.

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Cycle.

We are born

We die.

Just don't be a douche.

Your thinking is nihilistic in it's approach. The perfect sense of order is nothingness because in nothing chaos cannot exist.

In your life, yes you consume, you produce, just ensure you are linked in with a personal cycle, and don't abuse it for self gain.

Sounds like you are riding a hard road of self loathing and guilt, and it sounds like it is personally manufactured, and the root of this rant is something bothering outside of these existential reasons you are giving.

To be alive is to struggle. Is that not the point? If everything existed in perfection and harmony, life would be boring, and to be given the ability to think and reason isn't our place to attempt to struggle for the right reasons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12182882


Your concept of a 'cycle' is correct....but your consideration of that which is the said 'cycle' is flawed.

you are neither 'born'....nor can you 'die'

and 'most' ARE douche bags!

as above so below.......all is lies

chaos exists within nothing and all are everything so chaos is not WITHIN them but without

to 'be' within this realm is to abuse another....is this so hard to see and understand?

I have no guilt and do not self loath.......as I have no freedom of choice within this form, within this 'place'.

But I have options defining the aspects of the interaction I allow within this 'place'.

So back to a 'god'....to be 'alive' should NOT be to struggle.......unless the 'god' in question likes 'kicking shit out of its created beings'?

Have you looked around this 'earth'?
Do you have empathy?

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The problem is too much thinking.
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Ok....so is there a purpose to having an awareness.......and NOT considering said?
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It has been said that when you are happy (the real thing), then all questions finish.
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The problem is too much thinking.
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Ok....so is there a purpose to having an awareness.......and NOT considering said?
 Quoting: forty seven


It has been said that when you are happy (the real thing), then all questions finish.
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Yes and I would be in agreeance....but my opening post is regarding the current state of 'life' for all things.

Is it possible to be 'happy'.......when one can see all else and the existence they must endure, the fear?
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The problem is too much thinking.
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Ok....so is there a purpose to having an awareness.......and NOT considering said?
 Quoting: forty seven


It has been said that when you are happy (the real thing), then all questions finish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50469146


Yes and I would be in agreeance....but my opening post is regarding the current state of 'life' for all things.

Is it possible to be 'happy'.......when one can see all else and the existence they must endure, the fear?
 Quoting: forty seven


It sounds like the fear should be feared or there should be felt an emotion because of this fear.

Does this fear have a source?

You would probably end up happy if you get them out of the existence "they must endure".
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It's more sensible when you find your purpose. Usually means your purpose has to make up for what you spoke of as being wrong. Correct it via your actions. To live it to manipulate, take and give. To finally be at peace, one must be balanced. This can take many lifetimes to achieve. You will never move on, if you feel such guilt. You have trapped your soul, in something you only created through your limited perception. What you see is not all that there is. Seek the answers you wish to solve, in yourself, no one other soul, or many can guide you properly. It is you who is the center of the universe! Only you can percieve, and manifest the proper change that results in your own proper conclusion.
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Ok....so is there a purpose to having an awareness.......and NOT considering said?
 Quoting: forty seven


It has been said that when you are happy (the real thing), then all questions finish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50469146


Yes and I would be in agreeance....but my opening post is regarding the current state of 'life' for all things.

Is it possible to be 'happy'.......when one can see all else and the existence they must endure, the fear?
 Quoting: forty seven


It sounds like the fear should be feared or there should be felt an emotion because of this fear.

Does this fear have a source?

You would probably end up happy if you get them out of the existence "they must endure".
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Your 'flag' has prompted a supposed memory, of which I posted today, if today is a pattern?

I stated the below in August of this year in Belgium

this life (lol) is simply something YOU would never allow.

this is why YOU are here

YOU cannot understand 'opposed emotions' within self....unless YOU have experienced said.

these actions here are defined by 'other than YOU'.......which YOU must have knowledge of through 'living it' (YOU cannot learn this through 'knowing it').

YOU would have only allowed 'good' within your created reality.

this place is of YOUR choice....so as to experience and learn a different 'nature of being' from.

YOU will not 'enjoy' it and it will 'hurt' being here

Endure.......the 'lesson' is harsh....but YOU must complete it

Can you swim within the most cursed sea, yet still feel the warmth of rain cleansing you?

strength to YOU.......and all which are as YOU are
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It's more sensible when you find your purpose. Usually means your purpose has to make up for what you spoke of as being wrong. Correct it via your actions. To live it to manipulate, take and give. To finally be at peace, one must be balanced. This can take many lifetimes to achieve. You will never move on, if you feel such guilt. You have trapped your soul, in something you only created through your limited perception. What you see is not all that there is. Seek the answers you wish to solve, in yourself, no one other soul, or many can guide you properly. It is you who is the center of the universe! Only you can percieve, and manifest the proper change that results in your own proper conclusion.
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Your purpose cannot be 'found' as it's nature is you.

There is and cannot be a 'viewed' balance as you would understand as the words themselves are corrupt within your current nature.

You exist within a world or perception of 'life' which for you defines your current limitations, so you cannot be held responsible for a 'being.

If one will not 'take' responsibility for all of else.......then all else is still lost

to be 'at peace within one's own creator' defines a loss of all else within one

the least becomes you and you become the least

I have no want for responsibility....but maybe it is mine.......it would be with a sad 'heart' that I would perform this task

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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me: Thy Rod and Thy Staff, they comfort me."


It has been my opinion for long enough now that we are indeed in a kind of hell....

Be warned, I'm feeling pretty dark today but....

Fear is no irrationality, as most people would have it.

Fear is merely the dawning of reason on the idea that.... this could be as 'good' as the 'program' of the Universe could get....

Maybe we are too complicated.... gas-guzzlers of the Universal Shakti, as it were.


Fear is.... the momentary comprehension of that ineffable truth. That same truth mankind has worked so hard to distance itself from, yet takes two steps forward for every one step back.



....Ya think?

hmm
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This physical existence is a spirit prison. If you try to "escape" by dying, they just catch you, wipe your memories, and send you right back.

You might as well make yourself comfortable and start enjoying life!





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