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I have been waiting for this to pop up in the news as I have a buddy who is in the unit that is locked down. The missing items are most definitely weapons. So the article is very misleading. Its $50,000 worth of bayonets and scopes and they are making the soldiers search the same area of the air field over and over. Nothing is really being done to find the weapons. So this coupled with the missing drone, very suspicious! I think its CYA time over at FT Drum!


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FORT DRUM Members of an aviation company have been confined to their work area all week amid a search for approximately $50,000 worth of missing equipment.

More at link [link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]



Lockdown lifted yay!!!!

Last Edited by Brandywine on 11/26/2013 12:29 AM
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To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha
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I remember going thru this in Germany over a pair of missing PVS-7s (night vision goggles). Was like being in prison for three days! They never found them, by the way ...
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Is a lot of things going missing?
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They got an alien in there or something?

WHy the secrecy?



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It's an age old equation, the lower the soldiers pay the more shit goes missing.
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brandywine, anywhere near southeastern PA?
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I feel so horrible for these soldiers. There are a lot of married soldiers who wont be able to spend time with their families on Thanksgiving if this stuff isnt found or written off. Its a lot of weapons that somehow just disappeared. The commander swears they are hot on the trail, and the weapons are just being moved around the base....
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brandywine, anywhere near southeastern PA?
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Im in middle America. This is all going on in Northern NY. The unit isnt even aware of how long the items have been missing, because most of them didnt even have access to the area.
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To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha
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I have been waiting for this to pop up in the news as I have a buddy who is in the unit that is locked down. The missing items are most definitely weapons. So the article is very misleading. Its $50,000 worth of bayonets and scopes and they are making the soldiers search the same area of the air field over and over. Nothing is really being done to find the weapons. So this coupled with the missing drone, very suspicious! I think its CYA time over at FT Drum!


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FORT DRUM Members of an aviation company have been confined to their work area all week amid a search for approximately $50,000 worth of missing equipment.

More at link [link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]
 Quoting: Brandywine84




Missing drone?
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It doesn't matter; it'll be all over soon. blwkss
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I wonder what kinda scopes they was.
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I have been waiting for this to pop up in the news as I have a buddy who is in the unit that is locked down. The missing items are most definitely weapons. So the article is very misleading. Its $50,000 worth of bayonets and scopes and they are making the soldiers search the same area of the air field over and over. Nothing is really being done to find the weapons. So this coupled with the missing drone, very suspicious! I think its CYA time over at FT Drum!


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FORT DRUM Members of an aviation company have been confined to their work area all week amid a search for approximately $50,000 worth of missing equipment.

More at link [link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]
 Quoting: Brandywine84




Missing drone?
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The Syracuse-based 174th Attack Wing asked the Air Force to send an HC-130 search aircraft to look for the missing MQ-9 Reaper, according to Eric Durr, a spokesman for the New York state Division of Military and Naval Affairs, based in suburban Albany.

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
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They got an alien in there or something?

WHy the secrecy?



Do they have Tolec finally?
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It's all about priorities, the pentagram looses trillions of dollars and there is no search and no accountability.
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This is Standard Operating Procedure when sensitive items go missing.

I went through the same deal only it was only $5000 worth of equipment and it was only a day.

If nothing turns up, it all falls on the company commander who is signed for all of them. The commander will have to pay the 50 grand or whatever.
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This is Standard Operating Procedure when sensitive items go missing.

I went through the same deal only it was only $5000 worth of equipment and it was only a day.

If nothing turns up, it all falls on the company commander who is signed for all of them. The commander will have to pay the 50 grand or whatever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50129485


I know its standard operating procedure. Its about accountability. The company commander who signed for them did not keep track of the items. Most of the unit didnt even know they were there. If that many weapons are going to be in an unsecured area, the least they could have done was put up a camera to watch them. Most of the unit wasnt even aware they were there. Personally I believe they were shipped out with a previously deployed unit and the paper trail went missing. I just feel for these guys. A lot of them are fathers and mothers.
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To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha
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Re: Update Fort Drum lock down lifted after 7 days!
I have been waiting for this to pop up in the news as I have a buddy who is in the unit that is locked down. The missing items are most definitely weapons. So the article is very misleading. Its $50,000 worth of bayonets and scopes and they are making the soldiers search the same area of the air field over and over. Nothing is really being done to find the weapons. So this coupled with the missing drone, very suspicious! I think its CYA time over at FT Drum!


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FORT DRUM Members of an aviation company have been confined to their work area all week amid a search for approximately $50,000 worth of missing equipment.

More at link [link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]
 Quoting: Brandywine84

ISON....
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^^ ha ha
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To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha
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We are talking about defense dept spending here, so $50,000 of equipment is like two bayonets and a scope; if that.
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I Was stationed at Fort Drum. someone " lost" a 203 launcher. we got locked down for 3 days. searching threw the snow. this shit happens every once and a while.
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I hope and pray that A LOT of high grade military hardware goes missing over the coming weeks and months.

The resistance is going to need a chance.
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Most likely scenario: Some lower enlisted are pissed off at their new Butter Bar Lt. and took his 9mm & nod's during training and hid it, to get the Lt. in trouble for loosing his/her weapon.

Then the smarter Higher enlisted make everybody search in a known area that the weapons are "NOT", so they can catch the perp sneaking back to the general area to retrieve the equipment

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Is a lot of things going missing?
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


It's actually pretty common for equipment to go missing on a field training exercise (FTX). There is usually a rigorous search... lasting a few hours to perhaps 3 days. After that, the time becomes more valuable than the equipment, and the search stops. The soldier(s) who lost the gear get disciplined, and things go back to normal.

What is odd about this is case
1. the length of the search
2. there being a published 'valuation' of the missing equipment
3. That it made the civilian news at all

It's definitely not a typical situation... but I don't have enough info to do more than vaguely speculate on what is actually "missing" to keep them searching for so long.

Even so, my best two guesses are either A) they have a fugitive, not a lost article; and/or B) there are multiple combat weapons involved in the "loss"...
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It's all about priorities, the pentagram looses trillions of dollars and there is no search and no accountability.
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It's not "priorities" - it's PUNISHING common, ordinary soldiers, and making them spend Thanksgiving apart from their families.

Divide & conquer. Keep the troops off guard, and off kilter, make them chase their own tails so much, they'll just finally give in just to get a break.
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Is a lot of things going missing?
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


It's actually pretty common for equipment to go missing on a field training exercise (FTX). There is usually a rigorous search... lasting a few hours to perhaps 3 days. After that, the time becomes more valuable than the equipment, and the search stops. The soldier(s) who lost the gear get disciplined, and things go back to normal.

What is odd about this is case
1. the length of the search
2. there being a published 'valuation' of the missing equipment
3. That it made the civilian news at all

It's definitely not a typical situation... but I don't have enough info to do more than vaguely speculate on what is actually "missing" to keep them searching for so long.

Even so, my best two guesses are either A) they have a fugitive, not a lost article; and/or B) there are multiple combat weapons involved in the "loss"...
 Quoting: BattlesightZero


I am dating one of the soldiers. Its actually missing equipment, not a fugitive. It is a lot of weapons missing. Not just a few bayonets. More like 120, and 800 scopes. The scopes alone are in their own boxes which is the size of a shoe box. Its not like a little box went missing. It had to have taken time for someone to get all that gear out without being seen. That's why I honestly think they were shipped out previously and the paper trail was lost. I really wanted to see my soldier for thanksgiving. All leave was cancelled.

sad

Last Edited by Brandywine on 11/23/2013 05:00 PM
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To keep the body in good health is a duty... otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. ~Buddha
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I feel so horrible for these soldiers. There are a lot of married soldiers who wont be able to spend time with their families on Thanksgiving if this stuff isnt found or written off. Its a lot of weapons that somehow just disappeared. The commander swears they are hot on the trail, and the weapons are just being moved around the base....
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Search Eric Holder's vacation home in the Blue Ridge.
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Any possibility the story of missing equipment was cooked up to keep the men on site for other reasons? As in, they moved the equipment elsewhere and reported it stolen so that they could detain this unit?

I know nothing about this besides what you've linked so just a "what if" kinda pondering. I mean, after all, this is a conspiracy site lol.
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What do they do up there in Ft. Drum? Is it a training base?
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It's all about priorities, the pentagram looses trillions of dollars and there is no search and no accountability.
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There was nothing to search FOR. It all done gone 'n got isself sploded by a dadgum planemissile thingymajigger, dontcha no.
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What do they do up there in Ft. Drum? Is is a training base?
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