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"The unprecedented move" Unapproved vaccine to be used at Princeton for meningitis outbreak. | |
| Chrit
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(OP) User ID: 27088294 United States11/15/2013 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I understand the issues, but no way they would do this for a regular community college or the like. Pin this, tear it up and watch Big-O care kill the poor meanwhile. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
| Chrit
(OP) User ID: 27088294 United States11/15/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this were any other school in the country it would be “Shut down time”, not “break the rules and import unapproved vaccines” time. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
| tiger1
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| Chrit
(OP) User ID: 27088294 United States11/15/2013 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry not for the masses Snip; Officials at the New Jersey university were mum on the arrangement, providing no details about how or when a vaccination effort would be launched. "We are not prepared to confirm anything at this time," said Martin Mbugua, Princeton's director of media relations. "This is a question we have been considering very carefully. We will be discussing it with our trustees this weekend and when we have something to announce, we will make an announcement." [link to www.nbcnews.com] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
| Chrit
(OP) User ID: 27088294 United States11/15/2013 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this were any other school in the country it would be “Shut down time”, not “break the rules and import unapproved vaccines” time. Quoting: Chrit The elites and their offspring get special privileges. No doubt Snip; Bexsero will be approved for use only in the Princeton community because of the seriousness of the outbreak, Clark said. [link to www.nbcnews.com] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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| Chrit
(OP) User ID: 27088294 United States11/15/2013 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It lies dormant and often carriers do not get sick. They keep spreading it without a clue. So Princeton gets the vaccine and it’s still out there. Who is the carrier/s is the question. Shut it down and who got sick? Other question is easy, were they playing with this in the labs and are they still? I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32062218 United States11/15/2013 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This isn't about meningitis or protecting the kids of the elite. That is slight of hand. Get you to focus on that instead of what it is really about. This is about setting a precedent of bypassing red tape and regular approval processes for vaccines to force or coerce them on a targeted "at risk" population. If they tried to force an unapproved vaccine on food stamp recipients or public housing residents, there would be a huge outcry involving the NAACP, ACLU, MSM, and everyone who has ever thought twice about getting a flu vaccine. Don't fall for their tricks! They do it first with rich kids to make people resent the "special treatment" so the next time...  |
| Chrit
(OP) User ID: 27088294 United States11/16/2013 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This isn't about meningitis or protecting the kids of the elite. That is slight of hand. Get you to focus on that instead of what it is really about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062218 This is about setting a precedent of bypassing red tape and regular approval processes for vaccines to force or coerce them on a targeted "at risk" population. If they tried to force an unapproved vaccine on food stamp recipients or public housing residents, there would be a huge outcry involving the NAACP, ACLU, MSM, and everyone who has ever thought twice about getting a flu vaccine. Don't fall for their tricks! They do it first with rich kids to make people resent the "special treatment" so the next time... You know it. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
| Anonymous Truth User ID: 1458136 United States11/16/2013 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys dont get this vaccine, even if the school "requires" it, you can get a reason of consent form from internet, just google it. i wish i did before i got it one month after the vaccine, i got something called HANDS FEET MOUTH DISEASE (HFMD) it was like chicken pox which i had as a kid but this was only on the palms of my hands and my feet..luckily not my mouth too. ALL to get back into college, what a load of complete crap, right? later researched into it, turns out the chicken pox virus is related to the HFMD, and so is the freaking shingles disease...all nervous system related. Makes me think about all of the mustard gas and all that stored into salt domes, and these diseases taking off after the BP spill/ LA sinkhole incedent |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1458136 United States11/16/2013 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let them. Who cares about all those Ivy League Kids anyway...Right...? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4768074 jeeze louise guys. Who the hell wants a vaccination anyways. Theres always some whinner on this board isn't there. its not about wanting one... its about some places "requiring" that you have one. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28761162 Canada11/16/2013 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bs "story" That’s right because when it's Ivy League kids at risk the government is willing to not just bend the rules but shatter them. Quoting: Chrit Regular people getting sick? Well that's ok, no one cares about the masses. Snip; Emergency doses of a meningitis vaccine not approved for use in the U.S. may soon be on the way to Princeton University to halt an outbreak of the potentially deadly infection that has sickened seven students since March. Government health officials said Friday they have agreed to import Bexsero, a vaccine licensed only in Europe and Australia that protects against meningitis B, a strain not covered by the shots recommended for college students in the U.S. "This is a bad disease and we know how devastating it is," Dr. Thomas Clark, acting head of the Centers for Disease Control's meningitis and vaccine preventable diseases branch, told NBC News. "A lot of us had a gut feeling that there would be more cases and we should get the ball rolling." The unprecedented move could aim to inoculate the nearly 8,000 undergraduate and graduate students at the Ivy League school in hopes of stopping the spread of an illness that kills 10 percent or more of teens and young adults who get it. [link to www.nbcnews.com]  |
| Chrit
(OP) User ID: 27088294 United States11/16/2013 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bs "story" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28761162 That’s right because when it's Ivy League kids at risk the government is willing to not just bend the rules but shatter them. Quoting: Chrit Regular people getting sick? Well that's ok, no one cares about the masses. Snip; Emergency doses of a meningitis vaccine not approved for use in the U.S. may soon be on the way to Princeton University to halt an outbreak of the potentially deadly infection that has sickened seven students since March. Government health officials said Friday they have agreed to import Bexsero, a vaccine licensed only in Europe and Australia that protects against meningitis B, a strain not covered by the shots recommended for college students in the U.S. "This is a bad disease and we know how devastating it is," Dr. Thomas Clark, acting head of the Centers for Disease Control's meningitis and vaccine preventable diseases branch, told NBC News. "A lot of us had a gut feeling that there would be more cases and we should get the ball rolling." The unprecedented move could aim to inoculate the nearly 8,000 undergraduate and graduate students at the Ivy League school in hopes of stopping the spread of an illness that kills 10 percent or more of teens and young adults who get it. [link to www.nbcnews.com] I wish Main stream just went nuts on the story. It's approved through the government channels, just waiting on the board approval of the school now. Snip; "This is a question we have been considering very carefully. We will be discussing it with our trustees this weekend, and when we have something to announce we will make an announcement," spokesman Martin Mbugua said. [link to www.cnn.com] issue is why can they cerement the system easily but "we" can't This may be one of the biggest small stories ever. The school board influenced the government.. Last Edited by Chrit on 11/16/2013 01:29 AM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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| Chrit
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37716885 United States11/16/2013 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really about the vaccine company losing money on this vaccine...great marketing tool. The US gov is involved in supporting and protecting this company for whatever reason. Novartis vaccines unit's future hangs on Bexsero approval [link to www.fiercevaccines.com] U.K. rejection of Bexsero hits Novartis vaccine unit [link to www.fiercevaccines.com] "Today's decision represents a material setback to Novartis's beleaguered vaccine division. In the absence of a successful appeal, Bexsero revenue will likely be restricted to a minimal private-payer market. More importantly, it could force Novartis to sell, partner or more likely integrate its vaccine business within its pharmaceutical infrastructure," |
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User ID: 48549609 11/16/2013 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really about the vaccine company losing money on this vaccine...great marketing tool. The US gov is involved in supporting and protecting this company for whatever reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37716885 Novartis vaccines unit's future hangs on Bexsero approval [link to www.fiercevaccines.com] U.K. rejection of Bexsero hits Novartis vaccine unit [link to www.fiercevaccines.com] "Today's decision represents a material setback to Novartis's beleaguered vaccine division. In the absence of a successful appeal, Bexsero revenue will likely be restricted to a minimal private-payer market. More importantly, it could force Novartis to sell, partner or more likely integrate its vaccine business within its pharmaceutical infrastructure," Nice catch. Always follow the money. Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49871901 United States11/16/2013 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | whooteedoo, it's not approved in the USA because they havent paid yet. It's not like the FDA really gives a shit about anything else. If it's approved in Europe, its good enough to work here, can't be any worse than the shit we have. |
| Judethz
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45791533 United States11/16/2013 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I understand the issues, but no way they would do this for a regular community college or the like. Quoting: Chrit Pin this, tear it up and watch Big-O care kill the poor meanwhile. Stopping an epidemic no matter where it is, is critical. I share your feelings on Os deadly embrace, but I have a problem with your class warfare words. Besides those people getting the vaccines may be very much worse off getting them. They can keep their damned needles and O's skeleton fingers away from me. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20403608 United States11/16/2013 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It lies dormant and often carriers do not get sick. They keep spreading it without a clue. So Princeton gets the vaccine and it’s still out there. Who is the carrier/s is the question. Shut it down and who got sick? Other question is easy, were they playing with this in the labs and are they still? No, there are a lot of unapproved drugs that aren't allowed to be used in the US on humans. There's a lot of cancer drugs that aren't allowed to be used because of all the money that would be lost from all those chemotherapy groups for curing cancer. They actually have a way of stopping HIV now with drugs that still remains unapproved and forced to be trialed for 20 years in the US, while other countries are beginning to use it and seeing a massive positive affect. Meanwhile, a lot of these drugs are ok to use by veterinarians. |
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It's a bit of a curve ball this one, but I really don't think that I'd want it anyway.