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| Gypsy Priest
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12680882 United States11/12/2013 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest I hope slick willy keeps hurling the insults at Obama. Fact is, he had to pretend to like the guy so Romney would not get elected. Had it not been for slick willy's speech at the DNC, Obama would have had his ass handed to him. |
| Gypsy Priest
(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States11/12/2013 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest I hope slick willy keeps hurling the insults at Obama. Fact is, he had to pretend to like the guy so Romney would not get elected. Had it not been for slick willy's speech at the DNC, Obama would have had his ass handed to him. Agreed! ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
| Saddletramp
User ID: 740208  Puerto Rico11/12/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, it's a bit late for that shit... Maybe if they would have gotten started on that in 2010 when they first knew about it... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45813394 United States11/12/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO I believe it is thier intent all along to eventually have a gov single payer system. To the current administration the private health insurance sector IS the problem that must be overcome by any means necessary, including collateral damage. |
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| ar-15 nut
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| Gypsy Priest
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| dawnie
User ID: 38186544 United States11/12/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, it's a bit late for that shit... Quoting: Saddletramp Maybe if they would have gotten started on that in 2010 when they first knew about it... Yep, because without existing policyholders helping subsidize the new O-Care enrollees, the math doesn't work for the insurers. Who pays the difference? You either scrap the whole thing or implement the train wreck as planned. A flag flown upside down is a symbol of a country in distress. As a result of the many traitors and enemies inside our own government and the many unconstitutional acts, legislation and atrocities passed and/or committed against our lives, liberty and property, as well as a reckless foreign policy meant to enrich and empower an already wealthy group of 'elites' while wreaking havoc around the globe and committing atrocities against large numbers of innocent peoples in the name of 'spreading democracy', the United States is no longer a free country and the lives of its citizens as well as the lives of our brothers and sisters around the globe, are in dire danger and distress. |
| Jynxx96
User ID: 47942210 United States11/12/2013 11:59 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest I hope slick willy keeps hurling the insults at Obama. Fact is, he had to pretend to like the guy so Romney would not get elected. Had it not been for slick willy's speech at the DNC, Obama would have had his ass handed to him. Agreed! Fact Never regret anything,for at one time its exactly what you wanted |
| Gypsy Priest
(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States11/12/2013 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, it's a bit late for that shit... Quoting: Saddletramp Maybe if they would have gotten started on that in 2010 when they first knew about it... Yep, because without existing policyholders helping subsidize the new O-Care enrollees, the math doesn't work for the insurers. Who pays the difference? You either scrap the whole thing or implement the train wreck as planned. In a nutshell. ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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| Gypsy Priest
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49377259 United States11/12/2013 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest The former president weighed in on the roiling controversy about health plan cancellations during an interview with the site Ozy.com. The current president recently apologized to the public for the millions of cancellation notices that are going out -- despite him assuring Americans that, under ObamaCare, they could keep their coverage if they want. For Clinton, the apology doesn't cut it. "So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton said. [link to www.foxnews.com] Who the fuck is Obama or any other political hack to "let" me keep anything? He's not a fucking king.  |
| Gypsy Priest
(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States11/12/2013 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest The former president weighed in on the roiling controversy about health plan cancellations during an interview with the site Ozy.com. The current president recently apologized to the public for the millions of cancellation notices that are going out -- despite him assuring Americans that, under ObamaCare, they could keep their coverage if they want. For Clinton, the apology doesn't cut it. "So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton said. [link to www.foxnews.com] Who the fuck is Obama or any other political hack to "let" me keep anything? He's not a fucking king.  ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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| Me User ID: 38369971 United States11/12/2013 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest The former president weighed in on the roiling controversy about health plan cancellations during an interview with the site Ozy.com. The current president recently apologized to the public for the millions of cancellation notices that are going out -- despite him assuring Americans that, under ObamaCare, they could keep their coverage if they want. For Clinton, the apology doesn't cut it. "So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton said. [link to www.foxnews.com] So when Hilary get's elected President of USA, will that make Bill Clinton the 1st "First Man", that should be interesting. |
| Me User ID: 38369971 United States11/12/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We had an insurance meeting at work today, everything went up and all deductibles up 70 percent, I opt out of insuarnce..Enough is taken out of my check aleady: Fed Tax 60week, State Tax 25 week , SS 40 week, Medicare 17 week, Union Dues 22 a week , 401k 60 week, gas to get to work 70 dollars a week, so: 550 earnings - 234.00 is 316.00 average take home and now they want to raise health care that I would of been paying 110.00 a week and now it is 235.00 with a 3000 dollar deductible and I never go to the doctor, AND they want people to put money in a health saving account thru Fidelity of course same as 401k. |
| TruthNow88
User ID: 49177066 Canada11/12/2013 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare Mid-range estimate: 51% of employer-sponsored plans will get canceled Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains what’s called a “grandfather” provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection. “The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013. ... UPDATE 1: Several Obamacare defenders are making the argument that it doesn’t matter that Obamacare disrupts pre-existing employer-sponsored coverage arrangements, because the degree of disruption is not as severe as in the individual market. “They have to buy new plans,” Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber told Ryan Lizza, “but they will be pretty similar to what they had before. It will essentially be relabeling.” That’s not accurate. It is accurate to say that, unlike in the individual market, where many healthy people face a doubling of their insurance premiums, premiums in the employer-sponsored market may only go up by 15 percent or so. But they will still go up, and the features of the Obamacare-compliant plans may not fit individuals’ needs as well as the old plans did. That’s why Delta Air Lines will spend $100 million more on health care for its workers next year, and why labor unions have said that Obamacare will drive costs of some of their employer-sponsored plans to “unsupportable levels.” The President’s promise was “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period.” Gruber’s semicolons and asterisks had not been supplied, and if they had been, the law would never have been passed. In addition, given the extremely high cost of employer-sponsored coverage today, a 15 percent increase is hardly trivial, and goes against the promise that the “Affordable Care Act” would make health insurance…more affordable. [link to www.forbes.com] Last Edited by TruthNow88 on 11/12/2013 06:22 PM "Fuck the American regime change policy... Pardon me... I mean fuck our gift of democracy!" [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49867858  Italy11/12/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest The former president weighed in on the roiling controversy about health plan cancellations during an interview with the site Ozy.com. The current president recently apologized to the public for the millions of cancellation notices that are going out -- despite him assuring Americans that, under ObamaCare, they could keep their coverage if they want. For Clinton, the apology doesn't cut it. "So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton said. [link to www.foxnews.com] Who the fuck is Obama or any other political hack to "let" me keep anything? He's not a fucking king.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48774854 United States11/12/2013 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest I hope slick willy keeps hurling the insults at Obama. Fact is, he had to pretend to like the guy so Romney would not get elected. Had it not been for slick willy's speech at the DNC, Obama would have had his ass handed to him. so the 4 million+ more who voted for obama did so because of a clinton speech? I hate OBAMA..but thats just wishful thinking. I can guarantee only a small percentage even were aware of this clinton speech...or paid any attention to it. obama won simply because romney sucked equal ass. |
| Gypsy Priest
(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States11/12/2013 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest I hope slick willy keeps hurling the insults at Obama. Fact is, he had to pretend to like the guy so Romney would not get elected. Had it not been for slick willy's speech at the DNC, Obama would have had his ass handed to him. so the 4 million+ more who voted for obama did so because of a clinton speech? I hate OBAMA..but thats just wishful thinking. I can guarantee only a small percentage even were aware of this clinton speech...or paid any attention to it. obama won simply because romney sucked equal ass. Hell, they all suck. We're screwed for life. ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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| beeches
User ID: 28167778 United States11/12/2013 07:08 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, it's a bit late for that shit... Quoting: Saddletramp Maybe if they would have gotten started on that in 2010 when they first knew about it... Yep, because without existing policyholders helping subsidize the new O-Care enrollees, the math doesn't work for the insurers. Who pays the difference? You either scrap the whole thing or implement the train wreck as planned. train wreck for sure. this guy is insane. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8925069 United States11/12/2013 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest The former president weighed in on the roiling controversy about health plan cancellations during an interview with the site Ozy.com. The current president recently apologized to the public for the millions of cancellation notices that are going out -- despite him assuring Americans that, under ObamaCare, they could keep their coverage if they want. For Clinton, the apology doesn't cut it. "So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton said. [link to www.foxnews.com] I was watching ON THE RECORD, and Greta was talking about this with her guest. I am glad Clinton has said this, because it is getting media coverage. I know, too, about the bill that may be passed allowing Americans to keep their coverage if they like their plans. However, if their plans have already been cancelled...the insurance company is not going to come back and reinstate them. Basically, they are out of luck. I just do not see any way out of this hell hole. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35149101 United States11/12/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest The former president weighed in on the roiling controversy about health plan cancellations during an interview with the site Ozy.com. The current president recently apologized to the public for the millions of cancellation notices that are going out -- despite him assuring Americans that, under ObamaCare, they could keep their coverage if they want. For Clinton, the apology doesn't cut it. "So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton said. [link to www.foxnews.com] I was watching ON THE RECORD, and Greta was talking about this with her guest. I am glad Clinton has said this, because it is getting media coverage. I know, too, about the bill that may be passed allowing Americans to keep their coverage if they like their plans. However, if their plans have already been cancelled...the insurance company is not going to come back and reinstate them. Basically, they are out of luck. I just do not see any way out of this hell hole. Most of the cancellations are effective on 12/31/13 so there would be enough time for these companies to renew the policies before then if congress approves it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8925069 United States11/12/2013 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bill Clinton, in an unusually blunt critique of the sitting commander-in-chief, said President Obama should live up to his promise to Americans that if they like their health plans, they can keep them. Quoting: Gypsy Priest The former president weighed in on the roiling controversy about health plan cancellations during an interview with the site Ozy.com. The current president recently apologized to the public for the millions of cancellation notices that are going out -- despite him assuring Americans that, under ObamaCare, they could keep their coverage if they want. For Clinton, the apology doesn't cut it. "So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton said. [link to www.foxnews.com] I was watching ON THE RECORD, and Greta was talking about this with her guest. I am glad Clinton has said this, because it is getting media coverage. I know, too, about the bill that may be passed allowing Americans to keep their coverage if they like their plans. However, if their plans have already been cancelled...the insurance company is not going to come back and reinstate them. Basically, they are out of luck. I just do not see any way out of this hell hole. Most of the cancellations are effective on 12/31/13 so there would be enough time for these companies to renew the policies before then if congress approves it. Oh, that would be so great. I really think this will pass. Clinton has a lot of pull. Lets pray they pass it soon. |
