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pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
ssle
User ID: 44553387 United States 11/07/2013 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no conspiracy here. It's current technology. You can't upload a video from mobile and view it instantly because it has to be downsized for mobile view. It has to propagate between databases and distribution servers. These things take time. I uploaded a 1:30 video of one of my kids playing with the dog for family members to see. It came off the camera (HD) at 45mb. That's a lot of data. The advances in tech in just the last 10 years astound me. We're still not to universally instantaneous sharing. edited to fix prepositions for clarity Last Edited by ssle on 11/07/2013 09:19 PM Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no conspiracy here. It's current technology. You can't upload a video to mobile and view it instantly because it has to be downsized for mobile view. It has to propagate between databases and distribution servers. These things take time. Quoting: ssle I uploaded a 1:30 video of one of my kids playing with the dog for family members to see. It came off the camera (HD) at 45mb. That's a lot of data. The advances in tech in just the last 10 years astound me. We're still not to universally instantaneous sharing. uh, nope. that is not what is happening. plus i am not talking about it being instantaneous. i'm talking about being blocked from viewing it at ALL on a mobile device. no matter how long you wait. Last Edited by pink cat on 11/07/2013 09:25 PM 🦋 |
ssle
User ID: 44553387 United States 11/07/2013 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no conspiracy here. It's current technology. You can't upload a video to mobile and view it instantly because it has to be downsized for mobile view. It has to propagate between databases and distribution servers. These things take time. Quoting: ssle I uploaded a 1:30 video of one of my kids playing with the dog for family members to see. It came off the camera (HD) at 45mb. That's a lot of data. The advances in tech in just the last 10 years astound me. We're still not to universally instantaneous sharing. uh, nope. that is not what is happening. Proof? That's exactly what's happening when you upload a video to YouTube or Vimeo. It's immediately resized (to several different sizes), and distributed across several databases and servers so it can be concurrently accessed by a number of viewers. You think that should be instamagical? As far as the "some users might not be able to view" message, either the videos have additional privacy settings such as country OR it's a bug that's on the bottom of the criticality list for a team of developers somewhere. Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
ssle
User ID: 44553387 United States 11/07/2013 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | plus i am not talking about it being instantaneous. Quoting: pink cat i'm talking about being blocked from viewing it at ALL on a mobile device. no matter how long you wait. Sorry, you were editing while I was posting. I've seen a number of tutorials to fix this. Particularly YouTube has some weird privacy/copyright restrictions for mobile viewing because of how easy it is to pirate videos via cells. Everyone is worth knowing. Everything is worth learning. You're never too good. You're never not good enough. |
pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | plus i am not talking about it being instantaneous. Quoting: pink cat i'm talking about being blocked from viewing it at ALL on a mobile device. no matter how long you wait. Sorry, you were editing while I was posting. I've seen a number of tutorials to fix this. Particularly YouTube has some weird privacy/copyright restrictions for mobile viewing because of how easy it is to pirate videos via cells. i'd really love to see these tutorials. maybe they mean it's easy to pirate/copy/share via mobile. and yep. that'll keep a lid on news making it out if they can do anything to slow you down or make it more difficult. i've been on the internet since 1995 and i've completely seen a decline in our ability to communicate online in the last few years. this year especially. the internet isn't anything it used to be. it's now a "streamlined experience" where they can shut down ALL your linked social networks with one button. social networks will be the death of the internet. they only make you SEEM like you are communicating. they filter everything and you see 1/4th of what your friends are writing and vice versa. everything is being ruined and going down the drain. this isn't the internet the way we imagined it being back then. which wasn't that long ago. it's really sad what it's all become. the internet is a place for you to do your online banking and for them to suggest stuff for you to view or read based on your likes. it's gross. i hope someone makes an internet underground. meanwhile we have this place at least to hang on to. one of the last places you can say something of value. imo. 🦋 |
Skjellyfetti
User ID: 1553468 United States 11/07/2013 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is a setting in "advanced settings" under "syndication" If your vid matches a third party content i.e. copyright, you can't change this setting. Notice here on one of mine that was flagged for copyright, the one on the left, that they also enforced "notify subscribers" [link to postimg.org] The one on the right is third party content free, so I'm able to change the settings. Copyright owners do this because they make less money with mobile clicks and that's also why they wanted me to send it to my subscribers - more people, more clicks, more money. Last Edited by Skjellyfetti on 11/07/2013 09:45 PM |
pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | plus i am not talking about it being instantaneous. Quoting: pink cat i'm talking about being blocked from viewing it at ALL on a mobile device. no matter how long you wait. Sorry, you were editing while I was posting. I've seen a number of tutorials to fix this. Particularly YouTube has some weird privacy/copyright restrictions for mobile viewing because of how easy it is to pirate videos via cells. i'd really love to see these tutorials. maybe they mean it's easy to pirate/copy/share via mobile. and yep. that'll keep a lid on news making it out if they can do anything to slow you down or make it more difficult. i've been on the internet since 1995 and i've completely seen a decline in our ability to communicate online in the last few years. this year especially. the internet isn't anything it used to be. it's now a "streamlined experience" where they can shut down ALL your linked social networks with one button. social networks will be the death of the internet. they only make you SEEM like you are communicating. they filter everything and you see 1/4th of what your friends are writing and vice versa. everything is being ruined and going down the drain. this isn't the internet the way we imagined it being back then. which wasn't that long ago. it's really sad what it's all become. the internet is a place for you to do your online banking and for them to suggest stuff for you to view or read based on your likes. it's gross. i hope someone makes an internet underground. meanwhile we have this place at least to hang on to. one of the last places you can say something of value. imo. oh, and one more thing to point out. facebook doesn't even let you see your VIDEO folder on a mobile. no matter if you use the app or a browser. the video folder is NOT even able to be seen or accessed on facebook. i find that to be very nefarious and purposeful. 🦋 |
pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is a setting in "advanced settings" under "syndication" Quoting: Skjellyfetti If your vid matches a third party content i.e. copyright, you can't change this setting. Notice here on one of mine that was flagged for copyright, the one on the left, that they also enforced "notify subscribers" [link to postimg.org] The one on the right is third party content free, so I'm able to change the settings. yes, i understand that part. what do you mean they enforced "notify subscibers" tho? what did they enforce? 🦋 |
Skjellyfetti
User ID: 1553468 United States 11/07/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, i understand that part. what do you mean they enforced "notify subscibers" tho? what did they enforce? The box is checked but grayed out and I can't change it. Without copyright infringement I can change it, like the one on the right. This is the "matched third party content" video Last Edited by Skjellyfetti on 11/07/2013 09:51 PM |
pink cat
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Skjellyfetti
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pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh and one more thing i forgot to mention that is huge. apple is making it so that you HAVE to have your location services on to use an app...even if that app does not require it! like i wanted to use this video in video app i had been using. i've used it fine with no problem before. i keep my location services off, for one reason it saves batteries to do so. and for another it's none of any one's damn business where i am if i want to use a silly video in video app. it's ridiculous. here is the screenshot to show what i am saying: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] (no you do not need to be a facebook member to view it (YET!) here is another screenshot of what i am talking about: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] 🦋 |
pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No space on mobile for sidebar ads, only overlay ads. Restricting this makes people view it on their computer thus maximizing the potential ad revenue. Overlay ads + sidebar ads = more money. Quoting: Skjellyfetti yes i am sure that could be said to be part of it. but it doesn't explain everything. and frankly i think they are just using that as an excuse to crack down on mobile sharing so people don't think and comply. because most people don't think about this. because for most people this isn't important. this is still mostly a game or entertainment for people. but what they are doing is creating the internet to be the new phone. and if you control everything on that telephone then...well you see, i would hope, that it not very good. but down the road when TSHTF it's going to be very important and people are going to realize these little inconveniences will cost them precious info when they need it most. 🦋 |
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pink cat
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pink cat
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pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/07/2013 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed, but only making it harder for you to share: Quoting: Lex 44374003 If you have not REGISTERED your real name with your account. yes that makes it harder too. but even if you give your name there are many roadblocks. they are testing the waters on this right now. seeing what they can get away with, what works and what doesn't. they are in the monitoring and testing phase on how they will ultimately make sure they are in charge of the flow of information. especially video. video is important because people see it as "real evidence" . "seeing is believing" etc. you control the seeing, you control the believing of the sheeple. very efficient. but they are playing around now with restrictions in the same way they test the waters for roadblocks to see how people react and comply with it. 🦋 |
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Hilver
User ID: 27424629 Finland 11/08/2013 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why that avatar, OP? You condole crap like that? edit for info: some tracks from Limb Biz, for example, are blocked from mobile devices because of copyrights. edit: thanks for making my mind between Ipad Air and Note 2014. :) Last Edited by Hilver on 11/08/2013 01:24 AM |
pink cat
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pink cat
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Hilver
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Rogue1970
User ID: 47494895 United States 11/08/2013 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is correct. Viewing videos via mobile devices is being clamped down. Its another boiling frog situation. Little by little, TPTB are reducing the ability to share instantly. I saw this happen in the last few days when trying to view simple powersport short video. Not just delayed because of server conversions, but blocked from viewing from a mobile device. The settings (at least in youtube) are hard to find.... to say the least. |
pink cat
(OP) User ID: 49500687 United States 11/08/2013 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is correct. Viewing videos via mobile devices is being clamped down. Its another boiling frog situation. Little by little, TPTB are reducing the ability to share instantly. Quoting: Rogue1970 I saw this happen in the last few days when trying to view simple powersport short video. Not just delayed because of server conversions, but blocked from viewing from a mobile device. The settings (at least in youtube) are hard to find.... to say the least. This Little by little 🦋 |