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Eating meat may be nice for the physical body but it is killing your spirit.

 
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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No he didn't, he says the plants to use as our food and herbs for our medicine
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did he say that? lmao

who did "he" relay that too?
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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your post and reasoning skills are proving my point.
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The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god.

No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks.
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How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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No he didn't, he says the plants to use as our food and herbs for our medicine
 Quoting: MONSTER

did he say that? lmao

who did "he" relay that too?
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Its in Geneses. I think he says let the fruits of the trees and the plants of the fields be our food and the herbs be our medicine
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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Its in Geneses. I think he says let the fruits of the trees and the plants of the fields be our food and the herbs be our medicine
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that nonsense.. I agree with this thread but come on
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Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body.

yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less.

blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat.

sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal.

so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes.

when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them.

food for thought.
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I like this.
I give thanks before eating my dinner
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thanks, have you done this your whole life or did you change? curious what kind of differences you noticed
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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your post and reasoning skills are proving my point.
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The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god.

No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5065662


How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul
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ill bump this response.
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you're grasping at straws now, nice chatting with ya.
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Goodbye, your thread was undone by a few people. You have not the capacity to think on glp levelIdol1
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thanks for the bump!
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No problem, thanks for boosting the meat market with back rhetoric
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lol I gotta bump this too, this made me laugh out loud.. I immediately received the image of someone angrily eating a hamburger while viewing this thread.

you don't sincerely imagine people think this way do you?

I'll just assume you wanted to make me laugh.... success!!

peace
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selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner
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Here you go OP

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

remember that next time you are self rightiously cutting your raw tomato

At least the animal I eat is already dead.
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that is an interesting study and I do agree with your point, the tomato is aware it is being eaten....

how much energy do you think it takes to make that one tomato compared to the same amount of meat on an animal?

I am self-righteously, as you put it, suggesting that you weigh what you take from this world, with what you give, a vegetarian uses SO MUCH LESS ENERGY than a carnivore.

Nice debate though, I appreciate a good argument.
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That tomato may have lived longer and given more pollen to bees to land it on other tomato plants, same problem different species .. that tomato just doesn't look at you with those cuddly little eyes
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I like the way your mind works!! This is a good point but you should know it also doesn't hold the water you claim it does. that tomato will grow back 100 times quicker than meat takes to form.
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Sorry to contradict you but in fact, it's quite the contrary, by eating flesh, you nourish your soul with the animal's soul. NOTHING is waisted.
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You sound like Jeffrey Dahmer who ate his victims, he thought they would be part of his body and keep them forever.
You think by eating an animal you imprison their soul?
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner
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i do not agree with mindless consumerism. i do not live that life style either, but you are making good points all over the place....

if you see instability, change.

that is what I am saying.
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selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


i do not agree with mindless consumerism. i do not live that life style either, but you are making good points all over the place....

if you see instability, change.

that is what I am saying.
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Dear OP, you cant change a persons soul you can only change yours.
Why do you think our world is in the mess it is.
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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No he didn't, he says the plants to use as our food and herbs for our medicine
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God gave humans dominion over all the animals of the Earth, to do with as pleases us.

Thus it is written in the Holy Bible!
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selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


i do not agree with mindless consumerism. i do not live that life style either, but you are making good points all over the place....

if you see instability, change.

that is what I am saying.
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Dear OP, you cant change a persons soul you can only change yours.
Why do you think our world is in the mess it is.
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you are so right, but you can demonstrate and educate, even when it seems hopeless.
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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No he didn't, he says the plants to use as our food and herbs for our medicine
 Quoting: MONSTER


God gave humans dominion over all the animals of the Earth, to do with as pleases us.

Thus it is written in the Holy Bible!
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I do not remember it saying to do with as pleases us.

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KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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your post and reasoning skills are proving my point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god.

No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5065662


How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul
 Quoting: MONSTER


Evolve please. The thought can be completed by recognizing that animals are a part of a living entity.\\

This is why the idea that no sin is greater than another is held by The Father.
There is no fence
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The deer I ate last night felt no fear. Peacefully eating to dead.
Dropped were it was shot. No following the blood trail.

It suffered none. I did not betray it. And we said blessing over our meal.

My family has eaten this way for centuries. My soul is at peace. And I am thankful for the nourishment. And for the nourishment provided to my children. To suggest there is something wrong with this is ignorance of the spirituality of this way of life.
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I can appreciate your sentiment and I accept that this is how you wish to live your life....

but do you think that deer had no siblings? nothing that cared about it? What about their pain? If you die in your sleep, painlessly, would you still leave pain behind? Of course, your family would feel the pain of your loss.

do what you will my friend, feel how you will feel, but it is not free, so don't lie to yourself.
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Do not worry my friend her siblings do not miss her, she was the last of the group. And no it is not free, the task of learning to live as my family does is full of cost. By of all of the ways to provide complete protien without leaving my land this is the best. The utmost care is taken to be very accurate hunters so animals do not suffer, and game is never wasted,

If it makes you feel better I don't eat my chickens, but from your posts you would say I stole their offspring since I have a few rosters too.
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I thank you for putting as much thought into your food as you do.

but simply saying "her siblings don't miss her" "she was the last of her group" is a cop-out of silly proportions. You do not know this, you do not know what cared for her, you do not know what she cared for. I can appreciate your sentiment toward your actions but do nottttt lie to yourself and pretend like everything was fine for her to die and that no emotion was felt by her or anything that connected with her.

your energy feels strong but I can feel that you do not wish to really look at yourself and your actions and instead wish to imagine their is no reaction to her death, other than your sustenance, it is a false confidence you put out.
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I can look at myself, I interact with nature as intented. Yes she may have felt moments of fear. And I am certain she was confused as her group became smaller. Ever action in nature causes a ripple effect. You have no idea the horror of a bad shot. As a woman hunter there were many years I found horrible distaste in the process, but it is natures way. Its bow season, this way on life us very nautral and respectful of the circle of life.

I feel more horror seeing deer on then side of the road. They suffered and their end goes straight to carogen... And I can tell you with certainty of her group. Two doe, and a spike.

I understand the purity of vegentarism... but to live off the land with utmost respect is honorable, healthy, and very good for the soul.
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Don't worry u don't need to thank them


They live to provide you nourishment

They evolved for this purpose


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your post and reasoning skills are proving my point.
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The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god.

No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5065662


How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul
 Quoting: MONSTER


Evolve please. The thought can be completed by recognizing that animals are a part of a living entity.\\

This is why the idea that no sin is greater than another is held by The Father.
There is no fence
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I believe the original poster is suggesting you live live according to your scruples.... again who is more impressive, the guy who lives his life abundantly without causing death, or the one who lives just as abundantly who leaves a trail of blood behind him?

Loving the bumps though, keep em comin'
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Don't worry u don't need to thank them


They live to provide you nourishment

They evolved for this purpose


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Just as plants animals evolved to be eaten by heffers
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Don't I worry u don't needs to thank them


They live to provide you nourishment
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if this is the paradigm you wish to live within....

I wonder what creature thinks you're it's food and that you're happy to give your life to it....

when moving in a predator circle you better watch your ass.
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The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god.

No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5065662


How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul
 Quoting: MONSTER


Evolve please. The thought can be completed by recognizing that animals are a part of a living entity.\\

This is why the idea that no sin is greater than another is held by The Father.
There is no fence
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8669322


I believe the original poster is suggesting you live live according to your scruples.... again who is more impressive, the guy who lives his life abundantly without causing death, or the one who lives just as abundantly who leaves a trail of blood behind him?

Loving the bumps though, keep em comin'
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You kill grass. Now walk to hague or quit the conversation. Your cult doesn't stand
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Don't I worry u don't needs to thank them


They live to provide you nourishment
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if this is the paradigm you wish to live within....

I wonder what creature thinks you're it's food and that you're happy to give your life to it....

when moving in a predator circle you better watch your ass.
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On this planet we are ultimate predator


We may have been evolved to be eaten by aliens


One can fight this and still survive however everything desires to live
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I can appreciate your sentiment and I accept that this is how you wish to live your life....

but do you think that deer had no siblings? nothing that cared about it? What about their pain? If you die in your sleep, painlessly, would you still leave pain behind? Of course, your family would feel the pain of your loss.

do what you will my friend, feel how you will feel, but it is not free, so don't lie to yourself.
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Do not worry my friend her siblings do not miss her, she was the last of the group. And no it is not free, the task of learning to live as my family does is full of cost. By of all of the ways to provide complete protien without leaving my land this is the best. The utmost care is taken to be very accurate hunters so animals do not suffer, and game is never wasted,

If it makes you feel better I don't eat my chickens, but from your posts you would say I stole their offspring since I have a few rosters too.
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I thank you for putting as much thought into your food as you do.

but simply saying "her siblings don't miss her" "she was the last of her group" is a cop-out of silly proportions. You do not know this, you do not know what cared for her, you do not know what she cared for. I can appreciate your sentiment toward your actions but do nottttt lie to yourself and pretend like everything was fine for her to die and that no emotion was felt by her or anything that connected with her.

your energy feels strong but I can feel that you do not wish to really look at yourself and your actions and instead wish to imagine their is no reaction to her death, other than your sustenance, it is a false confidence you put out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


I can look at myself, I interact with nature as intented. Yes she may have felt moments of fear. And I am certain she was confused as her group became smaller. Ever action in nature causes a ripple effect. You have no idea the horror of a bad shot. As a woman hunter there were many years I found horrible distaste in the process, but it is natures way. Its bow season, this way on life us very nautral and respectful of the circle of life.

I feel more horror seeing deer on then side of the road. They suffered and their end goes straight to carogen... And I can tell you with certainty of her group. Two doe, and a spike.

I understand the purity of vegentarism... but to live off the land with utmost respect is honorable, healthy, and very good for the soul.
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An educated and well put together response..

Thank you again for living with the amount of respect you do, if a lifestyle is necessary for survival I am glad that it is taken seriously and humbly. I imagine if anything can relieve the negative energy of meat, is is this type of thinking.

Be well thoughtful one

hf
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Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body.

yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less.

blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat.

sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal.

so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes.

when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them.

food for thought.
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Is labeling an enormous demographic of your human brothers and sisters as being spiritually unhealthy a sign of spiritual health?
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It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Thought provoking post AC

U are welcome here
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So ironic that this bullshit originates in poor countries and that idiots in western countries preach it with confidence
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Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body.

yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less.

blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat.

sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal.

so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes.

when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them.

food for thought.
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Is labeling an enormous demographic of your human brothers and sisters as being spiritually unhealthy a sign of spiritual health?
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It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Jiddu Krishnamurti
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This is exactly why I believe this person is just trolling and misrepresenting jains buddhists and hindu, or certain subsects of these religions
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Don't I worry u don't needs to thank them


They live to provide you nourishment
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if this is the paradigm you wish to live within....

I wonder what creature thinks you're it's food and that you're happy to give your life to it....

when moving in a predator circle you better watch your ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


On this planet we are ultimate predator


We may have been evolved to be eaten by aliens


One can fight this and still survive however everything desires to live
 Quoting: Astral Goat


I can't argue with your perception, but I do hope we evolve beyond this kind of thinking, which is totally possible...... so why not?

Again, if people were dying at young ages from a vegetarian diet, or showing severe mental or physical disabilities, or hindered spirits, I would be all for eating meat and maintaining this cycle...

but we know that's not true, many varying studies suggest exactly the opposite.... so what the fuck is going on?

why kill a creature, when you do not need to?

yes you CAN, but do you need to?





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