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MONSTER
User ID: 47033863 United States 11/03/2013 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47767372 PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ! your post and reasoning skills are proving my point. The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god. No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks. How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
MONSTER
User ID: 47033863 United States 11/03/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47767372 PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ! No he didn't, he says the plants to use as our food and herbs for our medicine did he say that? lmao who did "he" relay that too? Its in Geneses. I think he says let the fruits of the trees and the plants of the fields be our food and the herbs be our medicine KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268 yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less. blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat. sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal. so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes. when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them. food for thought. I like this. I give thanks before eating my dinner thanks, have you done this your whole life or did you change? curious what kind of differences you noticed |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47767372 PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ! your post and reasoning skills are proving my point. The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god. No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks. How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul ill bump this response. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Goodbye, your thread was undone by a few people. You have not the capacity to think on glp level thanks for the bump! No problem, thanks for boosting the meat market with back rhetoric lol I gotta bump this too, this made me laugh out loud.. I immediately received the image of someone angrily eating a hamburger while viewing this thread. you don't sincerely imagine people think this way do you? I'll just assume you wanted to make me laugh.... success!! |
Brussel Sprout
User ID: 49343972 Belgium 11/03/2013 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here you go OP Quoting: Brussel Sprout [link to en.wikipedia.org] remember that next time you are self rightiously cutting your raw tomato At least the animal I eat is already dead. that is an interesting study and I do agree with your point, the tomato is aware it is being eaten.... how much energy do you think it takes to make that one tomato compared to the same amount of meat on an animal? I am self-righteously, as you put it, suggesting that you weigh what you take from this world, with what you give, a vegetarian uses SO MUCH LESS ENERGY than a carnivore. Nice debate though, I appreciate a good argument. That tomato may have lived longer and given more pollen to bees to land it on other tomato plants, same problem different species .. that tomato just doesn't look at you with those cuddly little eyes I like the way your mind works!! This is a good point but you should know it also doesn't hold the water you claim it does. that tomato will grow back 100 times quicker than meat takes to form. |
MONSTER
User ID: 47033863 United States 11/03/2013 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to contradict you but in fact, it's quite the contrary, by eating flesh, you nourish your soul with the animal's soul. NOTHING is waisted. Quoting: wattsup You sound like Jeffrey Dahmer who ate his victims, he thought they would be part of his body and keep them forever. You think by eating an animal you imprison their soul? KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner Quoting: Brussel Sprout i do not agree with mindless consumerism. i do not live that life style either, but you are making good points all over the place.... if you see instability, change. that is what I am saying. |
MONSTER
User ID: 47033863 United States 11/03/2013 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner Quoting: Brussel Sprout i do not agree with mindless consumerism. i do not live that life style either, but you are making good points all over the place.... if you see instability, change. that is what I am saying. Dear OP, you cant change a persons soul you can only change yours. Why do you think our world is in the mess it is. KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47767372 United States 11/03/2013 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47767372 PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ! No he didn't, he says the plants to use as our food and herbs for our medicine God gave humans dominion over all the animals of the Earth, to do with as pleases us. Thus it is written in the Holy Bible! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | selective outrage, eating prepackaged meat is really no different than buying at Ikea ... look it up if you don't believe me, Ikea is so cheap because they destroy local productivity and low income countries. And coincidentally no one gives a flying fuck if these people manage to ensnare a bunny for dinner Quoting: Brussel Sprout i do not agree with mindless consumerism. i do not live that life style either, but you are making good points all over the place.... if you see instability, change. that is what I am saying. Dear OP, you cant change a persons soul you can only change yours. Why do you think our world is in the mess it is. you are so right, but you can demonstrate and educate, even when it seems hopeless. |
MONSTER
User ID: 47033863 United States 11/03/2013 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47767372 PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ! No he didn't, he says the plants to use as our food and herbs for our medicine God gave humans dominion over all the animals of the Earth, to do with as pleases us. Thus it is written in the Holy Bible! I do not remember it saying to do with as pleases us. Last Edited by MONSTER on 11/03/2013 03:19 PM KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8669322 Canada 11/03/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47767372 PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ! your post and reasoning skills are proving my point. The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god. No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks. How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul Evolve please. The thought can be completed by recognizing that animals are a part of a living entity.\\ This is why the idea that no sin is greater than another is held by The Father. There is no fence |
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3pic
User ID: 25544068 United States 11/03/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The deer I ate last night felt no fear. Peacefully eating to dead. Quoting: 3pic Dropped were it was shot. No following the blood trail. It suffered none. I did not betray it. And we said blessing over our meal. My family has eaten this way for centuries. My soul is at peace. And I am thankful for the nourishment. And for the nourishment provided to my children. To suggest there is something wrong with this is ignorance of the spirituality of this way of life. I can appreciate your sentiment and I accept that this is how you wish to live your life.... but do you think that deer had no siblings? nothing that cared about it? What about their pain? If you die in your sleep, painlessly, would you still leave pain behind? Of course, your family would feel the pain of your loss. do what you will my friend, feel how you will feel, but it is not free, so don't lie to yourself. Do not worry my friend her siblings do not miss her, she was the last of the group. And no it is not free, the task of learning to live as my family does is full of cost. By of all of the ways to provide complete protien without leaving my land this is the best. The utmost care is taken to be very accurate hunters so animals do not suffer, and game is never wasted, If it makes you feel better I don't eat my chickens, but from your posts you would say I stole their offspring since I have a few rosters too. I thank you for putting as much thought into your food as you do. but simply saying "her siblings don't miss her" "she was the last of her group" is a cop-out of silly proportions. You do not know this, you do not know what cared for her, you do not know what she cared for. I can appreciate your sentiment toward your actions but do nottttt lie to yourself and pretend like everything was fine for her to die and that no emotion was felt by her or anything that connected with her. your energy feels strong but I can feel that you do not wish to really look at yourself and your actions and instead wish to imagine their is no reaction to her death, other than your sustenance, it is a false confidence you put out. I can look at myself, I interact with nature as intented. Yes she may have felt moments of fear. And I am certain she was confused as her group became smaller. Ever action in nature causes a ripple effect. You have no idea the horror of a bad shot. As a woman hunter there were many years I found horrible distaste in the process, but it is natures way. Its bow season, this way on life us very nautral and respectful of the circle of life. I feel more horror seeing deer on then side of the road. They suffered and their end goes straight to carogen... And I can tell you with certainty of her group. Two doe, and a spike. I understand the purity of vegentarism... but to live off the land with utmost respect is honorable, healthy, and very good for the soul. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god. No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks. How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul Evolve please. The thought can be completed by recognizing that animals are a part of a living entity.\\ This is why the idea that no sin is greater than another is held by The Father. There is no fence I believe the original poster is suggesting you live live according to your scruples.... again who is more impressive, the guy who lives his life abundantly without causing death, or the one who lives just as abundantly who leaves a trail of blood behind him? Loving the bumps though, keep em comin' |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if this is the paradigm you wish to live within.... I wonder what creature thinks you're it's food and that you're happy to give your life to it.... when moving in a predator circle you better watch your ass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8669322 Canada 11/03/2013 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5065662 The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god. No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks. How we treat animals show what kind of human we are. Can be a test god set up for his judgment on our soul Evolve please. The thought can be completed by recognizing that animals are a part of a living entity.\\ This is why the idea that no sin is greater than another is held by The Father. There is no fence I believe the original poster is suggesting you live live according to your scruples.... again who is more impressive, the guy who lives his life abundantly without causing death, or the one who lives just as abundantly who leaves a trail of blood behind him? Loving the bumps though, keep em comin' You kill grass. Now walk to hague or quit the conversation. Your cult doesn't stand |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12669131 United States 11/03/2013 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if this is the paradigm you wish to live within.... I wonder what creature thinks you're it's food and that you're happy to give your life to it.... when moving in a predator circle you better watch your ass. On this planet we are ultimate predator We may have been evolved to be eaten by aliens One can fight this and still survive however everything desires to live |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268 I can appreciate your sentiment and I accept that this is how you wish to live your life.... but do you think that deer had no siblings? nothing that cared about it? What about their pain? If you die in your sleep, painlessly, would you still leave pain behind? Of course, your family would feel the pain of your loss. do what you will my friend, feel how you will feel, but it is not free, so don't lie to yourself. Do not worry my friend her siblings do not miss her, she was the last of the group. And no it is not free, the task of learning to live as my family does is full of cost. By of all of the ways to provide complete protien without leaving my land this is the best. The utmost care is taken to be very accurate hunters so animals do not suffer, and game is never wasted, If it makes you feel better I don't eat my chickens, but from your posts you would say I stole their offspring since I have a few rosters too. I thank you for putting as much thought into your food as you do. but simply saying "her siblings don't miss her" "she was the last of her group" is a cop-out of silly proportions. You do not know this, you do not know what cared for her, you do not know what she cared for. I can appreciate your sentiment toward your actions but do nottttt lie to yourself and pretend like everything was fine for her to die and that no emotion was felt by her or anything that connected with her. your energy feels strong but I can feel that you do not wish to really look at yourself and your actions and instead wish to imagine their is no reaction to her death, other than your sustenance, it is a false confidence you put out. I can look at myself, I interact with nature as intented. Yes she may have felt moments of fear. And I am certain she was confused as her group became smaller. Ever action in nature causes a ripple effect. You have no idea the horror of a bad shot. As a woman hunter there were many years I found horrible distaste in the process, but it is natures way. Its bow season, this way on life us very nautral and respectful of the circle of life. I feel more horror seeing deer on then side of the road. They suffered and their end goes straight to carogen... And I can tell you with certainty of her group. Two doe, and a spike. I understand the purity of vegentarism... but to live off the land with utmost respect is honorable, healthy, and very good for the soul. An educated and well put together response.. Thank you again for living with the amount of respect you do, if a lifestyle is necessary for survival I am glad that it is taken seriously and humbly. I imagine if anything can relieve the negative energy of meat, is is this type of thinking. Be well thoughtful one |
Awani
User ID: 49308470 Brazil 11/03/2013 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268 yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less. blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat. sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal. so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes. when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them. food for thought. Is labeling an enormous demographic of your human brothers and sisters as being spiritually unhealthy a sign of spiritual health? It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Jiddu Krishnamurti “One's destination is never a place, but a new way of seeing things.” ― Henry Miller |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8669322 Canada 11/03/2013 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268 yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less. blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat. sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal. so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes. when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them. food for thought. Is labeling an enormous demographic of your human brothers and sisters as being spiritually unhealthy a sign of spiritual health? It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Jiddu Krishnamurti This is exactly why I believe this person is just trolling and misrepresenting jains buddhists and hindu, or certain subsects of these religions |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49368268 United States 11/03/2013 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if this is the paradigm you wish to live within.... I wonder what creature thinks you're it's food and that you're happy to give your life to it.... when moving in a predator circle you better watch your ass. On this planet we are ultimate predator We may have been evolved to be eaten by aliens One can fight this and still survive however everything desires to live I can't argue with your perception, but I do hope we evolve beyond this kind of thinking, which is totally possible...... so why not? Again, if people were dying at young ages from a vegetarian diet, or showing severe mental or physical disabilities, or hindered spirits, I would be all for eating meat and maintaining this cycle... but we know that's not true, many varying studies suggest exactly the opposite.... so what the fuck is going on? why kill a creature, when you do not need to? yes you CAN, but do you need to? |