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Eating meat may be nice for the physical body but it is killing your spirit.

 
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brb - gonna dine on op. will save the leftovers.
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Your patience runs deep, OP. I envy you that. I have little patience for the stupid; they're stupid because they want to be--because intellect takes effort and would ultimately force them to rethink their ingrained perceptions and lifestyles.

These are the people that get washed away by the flood, I think (which is why they fear it so greatly). I say, "Let them drown." It's the best way to learn how to swim in their coming lives.
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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You have to respect what is around you, not take things for granted. You're spirit have to grow.
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Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body.

yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less.

blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat.

sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal.

so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes.

when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them.

food for thought.
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G...gaia?
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Your patience runs deep, OP. I envy you that. I have little patience for the stupid; they're stupid because they want to be--because intellect takes effort and would ultimately force them to rethink their ingrained perceptions and lifestyles.

These are the people that get washed away by the flood, I think (which is why they fear it so greatly). I say, "Let them drown." It's the best way to learn how to swim in their coming lives.
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I appreciate that, thank you. Sometimes experience is the only way to learn, I would rather we all learn to be happy, healthy and sustainable together but people will defend to the death that which they don't understand. Fascinating being human and all of the choices you have before you.

Choose wisely.

(spoof scene of Indiana Jones 3 with a guy eating a steak and his body begins to age 5 thousand years in 5 seconds..) "He chose...........poorly"
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Even if you're raising your own animals and treating them with the utmost respect until the day you kill them, that animal experienced some sort of fear/pain/trauma from the fact that something that cared for it is not slaughtering it for it's body.

yes plants are alive too and if you were to disrespect a plant before consuming it, you would experience that as well, though the degree of pain/trauma would be less.

blessing your food helps but that pain is stored deep inside the tissue of what you eat.

sure your body may be healthy, but your soul is weakened when you consume another animal.

so a nice balance would be to find where your body is happy and healthy and your soul is lifted instead of weighed down by what it consumes.

when I ate meat, I never ate a burger that was happy about being eaten.. but i do get that sensation from eating spinach and carrots after I have thanked them.

food for thought.
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G...gaia?
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She's a beautiful planet and I wish to be a benefit to her and her children as much as possible!

hf
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Timothy 4 New King James Version (NKJV)

The Great Apostasy

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;
5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
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Sorry, no enhanced tofu for me
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This will be my 6th Sunday dinner with my Mother that does not contain meat. She's gotten very creative and come up with some good new dishes for us to try.

That means I've been conducting my experiment of not eating meat for a little over a month now.

What I've gathered thus far:

It seems everyone has a problem with this concept. Friends, family, food servers, random people on a forum somewhere..
I have no idea why its such a big freakin deal. Why ridicule and harass people that aren't eating meat.

People have an ADDICTION to meat. Their react the same way a smoker would if you took their cigarettes.

Personally.. it has been so easy. SOOOOOO easy. A month of "other" stuff has been the biggest non-issue in my life. Whoopty-freakin-do

There is a discussion to be had. Why is it that a meal isn't complete without a dead animal on the table. So weird.

My experiment has saved me money. Meat is expensive.

It's also been a big deterrent from eating out. Again.. saving money. Eating smaller portion sizes.. controlling quality etc..

You have got to admit.. meat filled with antibiotics and hormones, raised in awful conditions, processed in awful ways with nasty chemicals, by poorly educated people.. is nasty.

and this:
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Sorry, no enhanced tofu for me
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tofu's is made of mostly soy and not something I would recommend actually.

quinoa, hemp and chia seeds are your friends
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This will be my 6th Sunday dinner with my Mother that does not contain meat. She's gotten very creative and come up with some good new dishes for us to try.

That means I've been conducting my experiment of not eating meat for a little over a month now.

What I've gathered thus far:

It seems everyone has a problem with this concept. Friends, family, food servers, random people on a forum somewhere..
I have no idea why its such a big freakin deal. Why ridicule and harass people that aren't eating meat.

People have an ADDICTION to meat. Their react the same way a smoker would if you took their cigarettes.

Personally.. it has been so easy. SOOOOOO easy. A month of "other" stuff has been the biggest non-issue in my life. Whoopty-freakin-do

There is a discussion to be had. Why is it that a meal isn't complete without a dead animal on the table. So weird.

My experiment has saved me money. Meat is expensive.

It's also been a big deterrent from eating out. Again.. saving money. Eating smaller portion sizes.. controlling quality etc..

You have got to admit.. meat filled with antibiotics and hormones, raised in awful conditions, processed in awful ways with nasty chemicals, by poorly educated people.. is nasty.

and this:

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49293285


Thank you for posting your experience!

Very similar for me, if you are like me, you will have a few cravings for meat here and there in the first couple of months, work past this by being diligent with your nutrition guide and soon it will disgust you to the point of nearly vomiting when you see/smell meat products.
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Sorry, no enhanced tofu for me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8669322


tofu's is made of mostly soy and not something I would recommend actually.

quinoa, hemp and chia seeds are your friends
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


My friends are Bo Vine, Chick Hen and Phil O'Fish
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Timothy 4 New King James Version (NKJV)

The Great Apostasy

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;
5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
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receive this: i recommend not letting a book/scripture tell you it's okay to kill when it is absolutely not necessary.
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Sorry, no enhanced tofu for me
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tofu's is made of mostly soy and not something I would recommend actually.

quinoa, hemp and chia seeds are your friends
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


My friends are Bo Vine, Chick Hen and Phil O'Fish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8669322


May you and your dwindling circle of friends be well.
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Are animals wrong for eating meat?
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I've never seen an animal create it's own theology, science or philosophy......
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Are animals wrong for eating meat?
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OP,

I feel you would get your message out better if you explain what has changed for you and others that have given up meat eating. We have been programmed to eat the "American Diet" of Meat, Starch, Sugar, Dairy, and very few vegetables. The main diet these days is processed food which has no life in it. We need energy in order to stay healthy, physically, mentally and spiritually. Best place to get this energy is by spending time in the Sun and eating plants and fruits which are baked in the Sun. Animals such as Deer, Squirrel, rabbit eat natural nuts, and plant life which is grown in the Sun. When people eat those animals they are not getting the energy straight from the Sun. When I gave up eating meat, I found sharper mental abilities, less inflammation and pain, smoother skin, hair and nail growth increased, less desire for the material world. I also found animals walking up to me in the wild. Anyway good topic but you should tell people the benefits of giving up something we have been doing since birth.

Never think of yourself higher than others because of what you eat. We all learn at different rates. Be a teacher and you will find you will gather a lot of supporters even the ones who love eating meat. If you Juice or make smoothies, show others who don't like eating so many vegetables. I have not found anyone who doesn't like good juice. The ones that don't like eating vegetables enjoy the juice. Remember we all need to help others by being teachers.


Peace to you and everyone.
Amy
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God placed animals here on this Earth for humans to eat.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals !
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your post and reasoning skills are proving my point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


The bible told them they have dominion over animals. That means they can abuse, exploit, kill, eat, hunt, or anything else they choose to do to them. It is sanctioned and approved by god.

No shit. That is how the majority of the populace thinks.
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Some people think that passage means that Adam had sex with every single animal in the Garden.
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Sorry, no enhanced tofu for me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8669322


tofu's is made of mostly soy and not something I would recommend actually.

quinoa, hemp and chia seeds are your friends
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


My friends are Bo Vine, Chick Hen and Phil O'Fish
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8669322


May you and your dwindling circle of friends be well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49368268


Yeah because eating meat is evil. Whatever man, just don't try to force the cult upon the world again
If it wasn't for animals. the population would be tiny
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It was ok for the Levites to keep and eat a portion of the sacrifices, and Jesus clearly divided fish and bread for the multitude.

hf
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It was ok for the Levites to keep and eat a portion of the sacrifices, and Jesus clearly divided fish and bread for the multitude.

hf
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I forgot to add that when the "children" were wandering the desert, God sent certain birds for them to eat.

There are many references in the Bible.... MANY
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Oh wow people are taking eastern traditions and fashioning them to bludgeon christians? Incredible. I'm going to buy a pound of bacon to protest you. Spiritually, that act trumps your korma
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This will be my 6th Sunday dinner with my Mother that does not contain meat. She's gotten very creative and come up with some good new dishes for us to try.

That means I've been conducting my experiment of not eating meat for a little over a month now.

What I've gathered thus far:

It seems everyone has a problem with this concept. Friends, family, food servers, random people on a forum somewhere..
I have no idea why its such a big freakin deal. Why ridicule and harass people that aren't eating meat.

People have an ADDICTION to meat. Their react the same way a smoker would if you took their cigarettes.

Personally.. it has been so easy. SOOOOOO easy. A month of "other" stuff has been the biggest non-issue in my life. Whoopty-freakin-do

There is a discussion to be had. Why is it that a meal isn't complete without a dead animal on the table. So weird.

My experiment has saved me money. Meat is expensive.

It's also been a big deterrent from eating out. Again.. saving money. Eating smaller portion sizes.. controlling quality etc..

You have got to admit.. meat filled with antibiotics and hormones, raised in awful conditions, processed in awful ways with nasty chemicals, by poorly educated people.. is nasty.

and this:

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49293285


Have you taken the time to do this water project? What was your results? I read Dr. Emoto's book on Water a few years ago when I was getting into energy healing. It opened my eyes to what is happening around us. We are 70% or more of water. When we see violence or hatred it causes the water that makes up our bodies look stagnant. The longer we are around negative emotions the more depressed and sick we become. TV is full of negativity that creates a sick environment.

I now use this rice experiment in my office as a teaching tool. I recreated what Dr. Emoto did by cooking some rice and putting it in Two jars. One Jar I labeled Beautiful and the other was labeled Nasty. After 26 months the one labeled Beautiful still looks edible but the one labeled Nasty, reflects it's name. This proves to me that water has consciousness that we are unaware of. Now smile and say Hi to everyone you meet and watch their reactions. Most will smile back even when having a bad day. These are some old pictures I took over one year ago. The Nasty rice has now almost turned to mush. Thoughts, food, and emotions play a huge role in how we interact.

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Peace

Last Edited by Amy_A on 11/03/2013 02:12 PM
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OP,

I feel you would get your message out better if you explain what has changed for you and others that have given up meat eating. We have been programmed to eat the "American Diet" of Meat, Starch, Sugar, Dairy, and very few vegetables. The main diet these days is processed food which has no life in it. We need energy in order to stay healthy, physically, mentally and spiritually. Best place to get this energy is by spending time in the Sun and eating plants and fruits which are baked in the Sun. Animals such as Deer, Squirrel, rabbit eat natural nuts, and plant life which is grown in the Sun. When people eat those animals they are not getting the energy straight from the Sun. When I gave up eating meat, I found sharper mental abilities, less inflammation and pain, smoother skin, hair and nail growth increased, less desire for the material world. I also found animals walking up to me in the wild. Anyway good topic but you should tell people the benefits of giving up something we have been doing since birth.

Never think of yourself higher than others because of what you eat. We all learn at different rates. Be a teacher and you will find you will gather a lot of supporters even the ones who love eating meat. If you Juice or make smoothies, show others who don't like eating so many vegetables. I have not found anyone who doesn't like good juice. The ones that don't like eating vegetables enjoy the juice. Remember we all need to help others by being teachers.


Peace to you and everyone.
 Quoting: Amy_A


I appreciate your post Amy and you are indeed correct, being a teacher and leading by example is the most important step one can take.

You'll notice I have made suggestions to posts that seemed on the fence or posters interested in learning.... but neither of us started reading GLP yesterday and yes, I will chastise any asinine or rude posters who would happily de-rail/flame a thread that simply goes against their grain.
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Animals eat meat. Are animals wrong for eating meat?
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Hey op do you use oil at all\/?
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The deer I ate last night felt no fear. Peacefully eating to dead.
Dropped were it was shot. No following the blood trail.

It suffered none. I did not betray it. And we said blessing over our meal.

My family has eaten this way for centuries. My soul is at peace. And I am thankful for the nourishment. And for the nourishment provided to my children. To suggest there is something wrong with this is ignorance of the spirituality of this way of life.
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havent you seen avatar? where the woman goes no "killing is bad" etc etc bless this animal and gods cows thank you mahmamad omonomonomnom

see? no harm no foul
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic....

eating meat is fine... but true healing of the soul begins with plant based diets.
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bulshit, your soul may need different healing than someone elses, saying your diet will greatly benefit anyone on that level is like saying your cough syrup will help with someone elses broken leg
I have flaws, I was just as surprised as you when I found out!

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It was ok for the Levites to keep and eat a portion of the sacrifices, and Jesus clearly divided fish and bread for the multitude.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49041825




I forgot to add that when the "children" were wandering the desert, God sent certain birds for them to eat.

There are many references in the Bible.... MANY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49041825


who do you respect more?

two men wander through opposite sides of a desert with their companion, a loving canine who serves his master by finding food and helping to track game.

both men have not eaten for days and with no civilization or food in sight, one man decides to kill and eat his companion.

the other has the same thought but decides he could not harm his friend so he releases his faithful companion to be free.

As the soul is infinite and only the body finite..

who showed greater strength in their experience?

the man who killed his best friend to save his own life?

or the one who saw his pet as an equal and instead accepts his own mortality.

I for one would like to have a conversation with the second man as he seems to be stronger willed and of greater compassion and understanding.
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Are animals wrong for eating meat?
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no, animals are not. Are you on that lvl?
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Are animals wrong for eating meat?
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no, animals are not. Are you on that lvl?
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animals eat plants too, are you on that lvl?

wtf is wrong with you ?
I have flaws, I was just as surprised as you when I found out!

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