ISON in the Crosshairs-Update: ANOTHER X-FLARE & CME AIMED AT COMET ISON!!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46658910 United States 10/29/2013 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The intent is to detonate on the opposite side of the sun from the earth. Coronal mass ejections are emitted on the opposite side of the sun from the comet explosion point or comet impact point. The CME would be directly aimed at earth. The sun will divert the CME away from earth. [link to educate-yourself.org] If ISON dies on the opposite side of the sun you will know why. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48442153 Canada 10/29/2013 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been watching ISON's magnitude at this site: [link to theskylive.com] It went to 8.63 for a bit, than fell back to 8.70ish or so (can't remember exact number) now it's back to 8.69. Does anyone know what type of flare generated the CME that took out Elenin? Crossing fingers and hoping ISON is tough. |
Reinvigorated Being
User ID: 48889645 United States 10/29/2013 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe ISON is the red herring. Quoting: Truthseeker2 Lots of attention on ISON. Is it a diversion for something much bigger? What Obama and NASA don’t want you to know! [link to stateofthenation2012.com] The BIGGEST Coverup in USA History [link to cosmicconvergence.org] Must Read! I have to agree with the bolded portion above. We were told, some time ago now, that "They" would be directing 20something Space & Terrestrial based Telescopes/Instruments at Comet ISON & the VAST majority of what we peon Civilians have been given comes from, IIRC, a very skilled amateur by the name of Bruce Something'or'other. They launch the Billion dollar flying observatory, out of, was it New Zealand or Australia?, & what have They shown us from that spendy venture? Yes, I believe that there may very well be something else going on. What? I do not know. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33891573 United States 10/29/2013 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A man, a song, a book... I listened, i googled and I thought maybe some dots might come together... Reverse speach reveals the heart... at the time of the speaking/singing... Johnny Cash speaks of THE HAMMER, hitting... A book called Lucifers's hammer... A comet... |
Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/29/2013 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Hugh,...nice, timely thread. Quoting: zacksavage Don't bitch-slap me for asking,...but what do you think is causing all this flaring now? Seems like a lot of activity all the sudden. Z Well it looks like we're reaching the peak of solar maximum, or the second peak (experts say this is a double-peaked max). There is already a sunspot (1883) with a reversed magnetic field and we'll see more of these I believe as the fields flip. This causes a lot of outbursts before the sun settles into it's new groove. Also, some of the biggest flares happen on the downslope of the cycle, so we may have a lot of activity for the next year or two. I've never studied or followed a solar cycle before this one, so I'm just observing and learning as I go. Even the so-called experts are often baffled by the sun's behavior, so this is really cutting-edge science now. This is the first Solar Maximum with the remarkable SDO satellites hi-resolution images so it's exciting to many of us amateur astro-geeks. By the way, here's spiral chart showing ISON position- :ISON-ENLIL: |
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digitalFoo
User ID: 47658207 United States 10/29/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe ISON is the red herring. Quoting: Truthseeker2 Lots of attention on ISON. Is it a diversion for something much bigger? What Obama and NASA don’t want you to know! [link to stateofthenation2012.com] The BIGGEST Coverup in USA History [link to cosmicconvergence.org] Must Read! I have to agree with the bolded portion above. We were told, some time ago now, that "They" would be directing 20something Space & Terrestrial based Telescopes/Instruments at Comet ISON & the VAST majority of what we peon Civilians have been given comes from, IIRC, a very skilled amateur by the name of Bruce Something'or'other. They launch the Billion dollar flying observatory, out of, was it New Zealand or Australia?, & what have They shown us from that spendy venture? Yes, I believe that there may very well be something else going on. What? I do not know. |
zacksavage
User ID: 48750380 United States 10/29/2013 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it looks like we're reaching the peak of solar maximum, or the second peak (experts say this is a double-peaked max). There is already a sunspot (1883) with a reversed magnetic field and we'll see more of these I believe as the fields flip. This causes a lot of outbursts before the sun settles into it's new groove. Also, some of the biggest flares happen on the downslope of the cycle, so we may have a lot of activity for the next year or two. Quoting: Hugh M Eye I've never studied or followed a solar cycle before this one, so I'm just observing and learning as I go. Even the so-called experts are often baffled by the sun's behavior, so this is really cutting-edge science now. This is the first Solar Maximum with the remarkable SDO satellites hi-resolution images so it's exciting to many of us amateur astro-geeks. By the way, here's spiral chart showing ISON position- :ISON-ENLIL: Thank you kindly man. It is amazing to me what we are able to observe and measure about the Sun from our little perch here on earth. To see a pole flip in real time is awesome. To be able to detect reverse magnetic fields incredible. We are living is some riotous times,...imo. rock on Z Last Edited by zacksavage on 10/29/2013 11:17 PM Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
Sungaze_At_Dawn
User ID: 1744109 Canada 10/29/2013 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the sun is blasting at Ison, then it means Ison is harmful to life. The sun is a Good Parent. Belted Neat right out of the solar system. AND saw a comet get around Mars, and the Sun aimed, shot and dissolved it. There's no accidents when the Higher Powers work and the Sun is something They work through, and connected to our Consciousness as well. So if the sun is reacting, Good, I was waiting for that. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/29/2013 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been watching ISON's magnitude at this site: [link to theskylive.com] It went to 8.63 for a bit, than fell back to 8.70ish or so (can't remember exact number) now it's back to 8.69. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48442153 Does anyone know what type of flare generated the CME that took out Elenin? Crossing fingers and hoping ISON is tough. I can't find any info on a specific flare or CME that caused Elenin to disintegrate. Comets sometimes do that as they approach the sun. However, 3 weeks earlier we had an X6.9, the strongest flare of the entire cycle, and several big M's. Some of the articles on Elenin are eerily similar to the ISON scenarios. Like this one- "So, for everyone who has asked, no, Comet Elenin is still NOT on a collision course with Earth. Neither are any of its pieces because, when a comet disintegrates, the pieces stay in the comet’s original orbit. Plus … Comet Elenin still shows NO signs of being or becoming a spaceship leading Planet X or Nibiru toward a collision with us. And no three days of darkness are expected around September 26 (“Will Bible Prophecy Be Fulfilled?”) as Elenin passes between us and the sun. Elenin is NOT now, and never was, going to pass between us and the sun, and, even if it did, Elenin’s nucleus or core (the part that could do any shading) at its largest was only a few kilometers wide. That’s in contrast to 1,391,980 kilometers for the sun’s diameter." more: [link to earthsky.org] |
Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/29/2013 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all these flares and CME's over the last few days, HOW has earth managed to dodge every single one of them??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44319680 Didn't ya hear? Monsanto (w/investment funding from Goldman-Sucks) has a new improved magnetosphere which extends all the way to Mercury. How do ya think they're holding the world hostage? |
Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/29/2013 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forgot to post the NOAA warnings and alerts- Space Weather Message Code: SUMX01 Serial Number: 91 Issue Time: 2013 Oct 29 2221 UTC SUMMARY: X-ray Event exceeded X1 Begin Time: 2013 Oct 29 2142 UTC Maximum Time: 2013 Oct 29 2154 UTC End Time: 2013 Oct 29 2201 UTC X-ray Class: X2.3 Location: N05W90 NOAA Scale: R3 - Strong Potential Impacts: Area of impact consists of large portions of the sunlit side of Earth, strongest at the sub-solar point. Radio - Wide area blackout of HF (high frequency) radio communication for about an hour Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP4 Serial Number: 435 Issue Time: 2013 Oct 29 2238 UTC ALERT: Type IV Radio Emission Begin Time: 2013 Oct 29 2158 UTC Description: Type IV emissions occur in association with major eruptions on the sun and are typically associated with strong coronal mass ejections and solar radiation storms. Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP2 Serial Number: 887 Issue Time: 2013 Oct 30 0112 UTC ALERT: Type II Radio Emission Begin Time: 2013 Oct 29 2146 UTC Estimated Velocity: 0000 km/s Comment: Estimated shock velocity not available. Description: Type II emissions occur in association with eruptions on the sun and typically indicate a coronal mass ejection is associated with a flare event. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] New cone model doesn't look right to me, but ISON still gets hit again: [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080] :10/29-C3shock: :10/29-c2BCME: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48442153 Canada 10/29/2013 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been watching ISON's magnitude at this site: [link to theskylive.com] It went to 8.63 for a bit, than fell back to 8.70ish or so (can't remember exact number) now it's back to 8.69. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48442153 Does anyone know what type of flare generated the CME that took out Elenin? Crossing fingers and hoping ISON is tough. I can't find any info on a specific flare or CME that caused Elenin to disintegrate. Comets sometimes do that as they approach the sun. However, 3 weeks earlier we had an X6.9, the strongest flare of the entire cycle, and several big M's. Some of the articles on Elenin are eerily similar to the ISON scenarios. Like this one- "So, for everyone who has asked, no, Comet Elenin is still NOT on a collision course with Earth. Neither are any of its pieces because, when a comet disintegrates, the pieces stay in the comet’s original orbit. Plus … Comet Elenin still shows NO signs of being or becoming a spaceship leading Planet X or Nibiru toward a collision with us. And no three days of darkness are expected around September 26 (“Will Bible Prophecy Be Fulfilled?”) as Elenin passes between us and the sun. Elenin is NOT now, and never was, going to pass between us and the sun, and, even if it did, Elenin’s nucleus or core (the part that could do any shading) at its largest was only a few kilometers wide. That’s in contrast to 1,391,980 kilometers for the sun’s diameter." more: [link to earthsky.org] What gets me is that both comets where found by the ISON organization, by Russians. |
Xibalbá be
User ID: 49142918 Estonia 10/30/2013 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kidding aside, we are about to test that theory when we are in between the sun and ison? Quoting: Stripper Orphanage In the crosshairs and unable to duck n cover... Now if old Sol waits untill we are safely out of the path before unloading some more 00 bu kshot at ison... im a believer. Believer in what, I ain't figured out just yet. The list of suspects is l ong... Divine intervention Aliens love us Karma earned Simulation Cosmic lotto winners Sun has a consciousness Star wars initiative , thank you R Reagan But the facts dont lie... something, someone, somehow saves our asses... I don't know man... emotion can be dangerous. if Sol wants to blast an old lover (ISON) who left her in the past, we happen to be in her projectiles' way, we are SOL Umm correct me if i'm wrong, but haven't we been hit by X class flares dozens of times before? They do always for the most part, seem to miss Earth, but they've definitely hit us before. “The desire of power in excess caused the angels to fall; the desire of knowledge in excess caused man to fall.” - Francis Bacon, Sr. quotes (English Lawyer and Philosopher. 1561-1626) You will now All->Save->Undo->Cut->Copy->Paste->Bold->Print->Home->Alt->Ctrl->Pause->Break->Page Down->Page Up->Enter Insert->End->Delete Choose your destiny. Sub-atomic <-> atomic sub |
Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/30/2013 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been watching ISON's magnitude at this site: [link to theskylive.com] It went to 8.63 for a bit, than fell back to 8.70ish or so (can't remember exact number) now it's back to 8.69. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48442153 Does anyone know what type of flare generated the CME that took out Elenin? Crossing fingers and hoping ISON is tough. Many thanks! Awesome link there. We need to get the GLP Observatory running live again. Until then, I'll follow ISON here. Thanks again! |
Xibalbá be
User ID: 49142918 Estonia 10/30/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are two 50 megaton bombs implanted into Comet ISON. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46658910 The intent is to detonate on the opposite side of the sun from the earth. Coronal mass ejections are emitted on the opposite side of the sun from the comet explosion point or comet impact point. The CME would be directly aimed at earth. The sun will divert the CME away from earth. [link to educate-yourself.org] If ISON dies on the opposite side of the sun you will know why. You DO know that the suns surface is equal to about 100 million nukes detonating every second... right? Two 50 megaton nukes would be the same as throwing a grain of sand at mount Everest in hopes of creating an avalanche. EDIT: Great thread Hugh, thanks for sharing this with us. By the way, there is something i'm really curious about. Will the Comet be visible to the naked eye before it reaches perihelion? Last Edited by Xibalbá be on 10/30/2013 12:27 AM “The desire of power in excess caused the angels to fall; the desire of knowledge in excess caused man to fall.” - Francis Bacon, Sr. quotes (English Lawyer and Philosopher. 1561-1626) You will now All->Save->Undo->Cut->Copy->Paste->Bold->Print->Home->Alt->Ctrl->Pause->Break->Page Down->Page Up->Enter Insert->End->Delete Choose your destiny. Sub-atomic <-> atomic sub |
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Reinvigorated Being
User ID: 2782120 United States 10/30/2013 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IDK but I actually wondered why they ever put it on in the first place. They've never included any other comets in these spiral models that I'm aware of. We had two beautiful comets earlier this year but NASA paid little attention to them. i have never seen anything other then our satellites and the planets....not even our own moon makes it in those sims??????? did anyone get a image or the .gif????? I know that I saw it in one of SuspiciousObservers videos. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/30/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kidding aside, we are about to test that theory when we are in between the sun and ison? Quoting: Stripper Orphanage In the crosshairs and unable to duck n cover... Now if old Sol waits untill we are safely out of the path before unloading some more 00 bu kshot at ison... im a believer. Believer in what, I ain't figured out just yet. The list of suspects is l ong... Divine intervention Aliens love us Karma earned Simulation Cosmic lotto winners Sun has a consciousness Star wars initiative , thank you R Reagan But the facts dont lie... something, someone, somehow saves our asses... I don't know man... emotion can be dangerous. if Sol wants to blast an old lover (ISON) who left her in the past, we happen to be in her projectiles' way, we are SOL Umm correct me if i'm wrong, but haven't we been hit by X class flares dozens of times before? They do always for the most part, seem to miss Earth, but they've definitely hit us before. Yes, many large x-flares have been recorded from Earth or Earth orbit. Actually it's Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) which can be potentially damaging to folks here on the ground. Many folks get confused because often the two things are related, though not necessarily. CMEs vs. Solar Flares: [link to uk.answers.yahoo.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/30/2013 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You DO know that the suns surface is equal to about 100 million nukes detonating every second... right? Quoting: Xibalbá be Two 50 megaton nukes would be the same as throwing a grain of sand at mount Everest in hopes of creating an avalanche. EDIT: Great thread Hugh, thanks for sharing this with us. By the way, there is something i'm really curious about. Will the Comet be visible to the naked eye before it reaches perihelion? I hope so, Xibalba, though it depends on how bright it gets, but it should be visible by mid-November. But as it heads towards perihelion you'll be fighting with the glare of the sun. If it brightens and grows a big tail it should be visible to the naked eye. November charts for ISON naked-eye, binocular or camera observing: [link to waitingforison.wordpress.com] |
Xibalbá be
User ID: 49142918 Estonia 10/30/2013 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You DO know that the suns surface is equal to about 100 million nukes detonating every second... right? Quoting: Xibalbá be Two 50 megaton nukes would be the same as throwing a grain of sand at mount Everest in hopes of creating an avalanche. EDIT: Great thread Hugh, thanks for sharing this with us. By the way, there is something i'm really curious about. Will the Comet be visible to the naked eye before it reaches perihelion? I hope so, Xibalba, though it depends on how bright it gets, but it should be visible by mid-November. But as it heads towards perihelion you'll be fighting with the glare of the sun. If it brightens and grows a big tail it should be visible to the naked eye. November charts for ISON naked-eye, binocular or camera observing: [link to waitingforison.wordpress.com] Thanks a lot man, that's a great visualization and very helpful! Really hoping for some clear skies soon... been raining 3 days straight with no sight of the heavens above here. “The desire of power in excess caused the angels to fall; the desire of knowledge in excess caused man to fall.” - Francis Bacon, Sr. quotes (English Lawyer and Philosopher. 1561-1626) You will now All->Save->Undo->Cut->Copy->Paste->Bold->Print->Home->Alt->Ctrl->Pause->Break->Page Down->Page Up->Enter Insert->End->Delete Choose your destiny. Sub-atomic <-> atomic sub |
Stripper Orphanage
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48442153 Canada 10/30/2013 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been watching ISON's magnitude at this site: [link to theskylive.com] It went to 8.63 for a bit, than fell back to 8.70ish or so (can't remember exact number) now it's back to 8.69. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48442153 Does anyone know what type of flare generated the CME that took out Elenin? Crossing fingers and hoping ISON is tough. Many thanks! Awesome link there. We need to get the GLP Observatory running live again. Until then, I'll follow ISON here. Thanks again! Np |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44372991 United States 10/30/2013 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kidding aside, we are about to test that theory when we are in between the sun and ison? Quoting: Stripper Orphanage In the crosshairs and unable to duck n cover... Now if old Sol waits untill we are safely out of the path before unloading some more 00 bu kshot at ison... im a believer. Believer in what, I ain't figured out just yet. The list of suspects is l ong... Divine intervention Aliens love us Karma earned Simulation Cosmic lotto winners Sun has a consciousness Star wars initiative , thank you R Reagan But the facts dont lie... something, someone, somehow saves our asses... I don't know man... emotion can be dangerous. if Sol wants to blast an old lover (ISON) who left her in the past, we happen to be in her projectiles' way, we are SOL Umm correct me if i'm wrong, but haven't we been hit by X class flares dozens of times before? They do always for the most part, seem to miss Earth, but they've definitely hit us before. Yes, many large x-flares have been recorded from Earth or Earth orbit. Actually it's Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) which can be potentially damaging to folks here on the ground. Many folks get confused because often the two things are related, though not necessarily. CMEs vs. Solar Flares: [link to uk.answers.yahoo.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] What can CMEs do to people and structures on the ground? Will it come anywhere near the fried planet scenario at the end of 'Knowing'? (I don't think it's possible but what do I know) |
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Hugh M Eye
(OP) User ID: 48848344 United States 10/31/2013 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44372991 I don't know man... emotion can be dangerous. if Sol wants to blast an old lover (ISON) who left her in the past, we happen to be in her projectiles' way, we are SOL Umm correct me if i'm wrong, but haven't we been hit by X class flares dozens of times before? They do always for the most part, seem to miss Earth, but they've definitely hit us before. Yes, many large x-flares have been recorded from Earth or Earth orbit. Actually it's Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) which can be potentially damaging to folks here on the ground. Many folks get confused because often the two things are related, though not necessarily. CMEs vs. Solar Flares: [link to uk.answers.yahoo.com] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] What can CMEs do to people and structures on the ground? Will it come anywhere near the fried planet scenario at the end of 'Knowing'? (I don't think it's possible but what do I know) A big CME hit would compress the Earth's magnetosphere and expose orbiting satellites to potentially damaging solar winds and radiation. It also cause electrical currents in the ionosphere which light up the auroras. Strong substorms may induce electrical surges on the ground. This would mostly affect large, elongated structures like power transmission wires, pipelines, railroads, etc. The biggest threat is to space assets and the power grids overload. There is some evidence that strong geomagnetic storms may increase the rate of heart attacks and strokes, but very little bonafide research has been done on biological effects. The best paper I can find on the subject is this Solar Storm Threat Analysis: pdf- [link to www.breadandbutterscience.com] also Perfect Storm of Planetary Proportions is a good link: [link to spectrum.ieee.org] You may also want to research the Carrington Event of 1859 which caused fires in telegraph offices: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by Hugh M Eye on 10/31/2013 04:37 PM |