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Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus

 
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Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus - YouTube. The UN (United Nations) may want to ban the Black Peter's (Zwarte Piet's), but it really is just a fun tradition, about a real man, Saint Nicholas, who loved kids and gave them gifts. As a matter of a fact, he himself was against slavery."
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What is the UN going to do next, ban Santa Claus? If they have time to spend money on this, then they are getting way to much funds...
Peace in the Middle East, hunger in Africa or nukes in North Korea and the UN is publishing this !
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
I bet Roy Hodgson has him on his walls every Xmas.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
The United Nations should set up a report on the Easter Bunny.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
Look at this poll here, [link to www.noties.nl (secure)]

You will have to click on the correct file afterwards.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
Look at this poll here, [link to www.noties.nl (secure)]

You will have to click on the correct file afterwards.
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What is the executive summary? (link not working for me)
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
The UN should also stop Thanksgiving. Because in the USA they thank the Lord for their produce of the land. No one has ever proven that a god, wether is be The Lord, Allah or what's so ever exists.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
The UN has way too much time and money.

There are people starving and they are busy with this, which was never a problem.
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Two stars?

Just give it 1 star then!
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Look at this poll here, [link to www.noties.nl (secure)]

You will have to click on the correct file afterwards.
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What is the executive summary? (link not working for me)
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Vindt u dat het uiterlijk van Zwarte Piet aangepast moet worden om tegemoet
te komen aan de wens van een groep Nederlanders, die het uiterlijk willen aanpassen? 91% zegt NEE

Moet Zwarte Piet de slaaf van Sinterklaas voorstellen? 92% zegt NEE

Associeert u Zwarte Piet met slavernij? 95% zegt NEE

Is het voor u acceptabel als het gezicht van Zwarte Piet een andere kleur krijgt? 81% zegt NEE
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
Is globalization biting you in the ass? The dutch (including Oranje royals) practically invented globalism (EU)
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Look at this poll here, [link to www.noties.nl (secure)]

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What is the executive summary? (link not working for me)
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Vindt u dat het uiterlijk van Zwarte Piet aangepast moet worden om tegemoet
te komen aan de wens van een groep Nederlanders, die het uiterlijk willen aanpassen? 91% zegt NEE

Moet Zwarte Piet de slaaf van Sinterklaas voorstellen? 92% zegt NEE

Associeert u Zwarte Piet met slavernij? 95% zegt NEE

Is het voor u acceptabel als het gezicht van Zwarte Piet een andere kleur krijgt? 81% zegt NEE
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Thank you.

95% for the black Peter's.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
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Exactly.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
Leave the black dicks alone!
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


Exactly.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


on the other hand... and I know I'm going to sound as a libtard... the nappy hair and red lips do portray a certain stereotype

But Black Pete was never meant to be a negro, he was a caucasian that was Sinterklaas's helper, not a slave, not a servant, a helper.

As Santa (Kerstman) has little elf helpers. Yet you hear no actual people with dwarfism complain about that ...
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
quote wikipedia:

"The servant is described as a page boy or man, and is depicted as a dark person wearing clothes associated with Moors"


black Pete is Moroccan!
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
black Pete really looks like a Moor:

[link to www.google.nl (secure)]
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
quote wikipedia:

"The servant is described as a page boy or man, and is depicted as a dark person wearing clothes associated with Moors"


black Pete is Moroccan!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44011781


LOL
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quote wikipedia:

"The servant is described as a page boy or man, and is depicted as a dark person wearing clothes associated with Moors"


black Pete is Moroccan!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44011781


LOL
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


the wrong fucking demograph managed to get upset about this !!!

lmao

Last Edited by Brussel Sprouts are bitter on 10/22/2013 05:04 PM
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its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
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+1

My woman is Belgian and that's what she said.

So we have to assume they know this and it still doesn't matter, therefore basically what they're saying here, what they have to be saying (if they acknowledge the chimney sweep thing and still carry on) is that it's the color black itself that's offensive...

That's actually a bit fucking racist no?

Or is anything black is now racist then?

I duno what the fuck is going on... O.o

What about black coffee... maybe all black objects in existence are racist.

Absence of light is racist.

Dark matter is racist.

Being black is racist.... uh wait what?

My head hurts.

Fucking stupid species we are. Stupid.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


+1

My woman is Belgian and that's what she said.

So we have to assume they know this and it still doesn't matter, therefore basically what they're saying here, what they have to be saying (if they acknowledge the chimney sweep thing and still carry on) is that it's the color black itself that's offensive...

That's actually a bit fucking racist no?

Or is anything black is now racist then?

I duno what the fuck is going on... O.o

What about black coffee... maybe all black objects in existence are racist.

Absence of light is racist.

Dark matter is racist.

Being black is racist.... uh wait what?

My head hurts.

Fucking stupid species we are. Stupid.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms


hf


Tell your wife that in preschool they are now teaching that the Christmass holiday season will now be named -winterfest- in order not to offend anyone ......................

I want to hear her opinion!
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
It is traditional around here and in many places to blacken the face with soot at certain times of the year, namely those times when people get up to mischief, around here it is directly related to smuggling, and the blackening of the face is to avoid being seen and thus arrested.. however some still consider it racist...

You can do nothing to help the stupid who have their heads shoved so far up their own behinds they can only hear themselves speak.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
It is traditional around here and in many places to blacken the face with soot at certain times of the year, namely those times when people get up to mischief, around here it is directly related to smuggling, and the blackening of the face is to avoid being seen and thus arrested.. however some still consider it racist...

You can do nothing to help the stupid who have their heads shoved so far up their own behinds they can only hear themselves speak.
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so if black people get offended at the thought of white people smearing soot all over their own face


...what the fuck does that say about black people and their self image?!
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
It's part of dutch culture if you like it or not. Nothing you can do about, if you don't like dutch culture, like many other europeans, you can always leave Holland, except you prefer to stay here because of economical reasons.
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
Not sure how I feel about Piet, saw the parade in Amsterdam last year it was a lot of fun. The 'black by climbing the chimney' makes me roll my eyes though. It's easy to consider yourself racially tolerant when all your slavery was in the colonies.
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its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
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Instead of Sinterklaas,the UN will knock on Belgium's door too......
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it's going all around now.....

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its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
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Instead of Sinterklaas,the UN will knock on Belgium's door too......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48694637


the un and the four million moroccan cowards ?
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Re: Dutch 'Black Pete' Christmas custom may be racist, warns UN --- The Dutch Sinterklaas - the origins of Santa Claus
its not racist, black Pete is black because he climbs through chimneys ....
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


Instead of Sinterklaas,the UN will knock on Belgium's door too......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48694637


the un and the four million moroccan cowards ?
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


you shouldn't be a racist friend...that's where it's all about.





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