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***SECTION 8*** FUNDING to DRY UP NOV 1 -- "MASS DISPLACEMENT" | |
Mr. Shatner
 User ID: 35524169  United States10/15/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] Millions!??? of people??? This shit is not sustainable, any of it. You can't have literally millions of people living off of other people forever, regardless of the reason they are doing it. AMEN!!!!! [link to youtu.be (secure)] I'M SO DEPLORABLE!!! TRUMP 2020! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] On the day when the wagons come I just pray that you let me on Matthew 6:9-13 King James Version (KJV) 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26577320 United States10/15/2013 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... IDK but I think a lot of laws have been changed about getting people out that dont pay.Use to be such a hassle but not so much now. Its usually written in the lease or contract how long you can stay if you dont pay.With mine it states 10 days after payment is due I am to be moved out.So you dont have much security to squat on a landlord like in the past..It had gotten to the point it was horrible for an owner to try and get a non payer out.They had to do something because some were making it a career to pay a month then squat for free 3 months plus all the while costing the landlord a fortune. The problem with a lot on Section 8 is they wont go freely or they will destroy property. |
| MtBarb
User ID: 29714721 United States10/15/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... IDK but I think a lot of laws have been changed about getting people out that dont pay.Use to be such a hassle but not so much now. Its usually written in the lease or contract how long you can stay if you dont pay.With mine it states 10 days after payment is due I am to be moved out.So you dont have much security to squat on a landlord like in the past..It had gotten to the point it was horrible for an owner to try and get a non payer out.They had to do something because some were making it a career to pay a month then squat for free 3 months plus all the while costing the landlord a fortune. The problem with a lot on Section 8 is they wont go freely or they will destroy property. In Montana (and maybe other northern states) a tenant can't be evicted between November and April. (Can't live in cars here.) MtBarb |
| CMcC
User ID: 27921007 United States10/15/2013 06:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sec 8 housing folks should not panic. So called 'Mass Displacement' will never happen even if the shut down continues, default happens, dollars collapses after 6th fleet sunk in the Mediterranean (insert you worst case scenario headline HERE). Folks that routinely do business with the government know enough to expect these things. All contractors, suppliers etc are not going to upset their gravy train over this budget fuss. Last Edited by CMcC on 10/15/2013 06:29 PM Fear God and Dread Nought. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26577320 United States10/15/2013 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... IDK but I think a lot of laws have been changed about getting people out that dont pay.Use to be such a hassle but not so much now. Its usually written in the lease or contract how long you can stay if you dont pay.With mine it states 10 days after payment is due I am to be moved out.So you dont have much security to squat on a landlord like in the past..It had gotten to the point it was horrible for an owner to try and get a non payer out.They had to do something because some were making it a career to pay a month then squat for free 3 months plus all the while costing the landlord a fortune. The problem with a lot on Section 8 is they wont go freely or they will destroy property. In Montana (and maybe other northern states) a tenant can't be evicted between November and April. (Can't live in cars here.) wow I think I would be tempted to ask for that much in advance or just not rent those months.with that rule people could live free half the year. |
| ladyannie2009
User ID: 47219220 United States10/15/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriously anyone still ignoring all these "coincidences" deserves the state of shock they'll be in once it all comes crashing down. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias I hear ya, and agree 100%. Unfortunately, there are still so many ppl totally living in la-la-land. I've given up trying to educate/inform others. I decided that I'd have a better chance teaching my dog how to clean the bathroom. btw-- His lack of thumbs make it difficult to use the toilet brush, but he's at least ~~trying~~ to do a good job. :winkydog: "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
| Mr. Shatner
User ID: 35524169 United States10/15/2013 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God I hope not! I live in lower income area. I do not receive any Gov. help at all, but a lot of my neighborhood does! I can only imagine when the neighbors down the street cant buy food or are forced to leave! They already start enough crap around here living off the Gov. tit.... [link to youtu.be (secure)] I'M SO DEPLORABLE!!! TRUMP 2020! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] On the day when the wagons come I just pray that you let me on Matthew 6:9-13 King James Version (KJV) 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Matthew 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. |
| Renegade (Me too)
User ID: 48325568 United States10/15/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed...  If the rent isn't paid on time, these Landlords will (and always have) start eviction procedures quickly. The people on Section 8 will be evicted, they may have about 30 days and that's it. The only Section 8 housing that may get a longer break are the individual homeowners renting to them because they aren't as familiar with the eviction laws. I use to manage apartments, and evicting people was the scariest thing I ever had to do. We would see people completely flip out, want to fight the staff, try to start fires, destroy property and even had people shot. If this were to happen today in mass, many Section 8 managers and employees would quit immediately. I honestly believe that at some point a deal will be made and the housing vouches will be paid. But, if it doesn't, add this to the Food Stamps problem, it's a disaster waiting to happen. yep ... thirty days Who is John Galt? |
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| goodmockingbird
(OP) User ID: 48359356 United States10/15/2013 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God I hope not! I live in lower income area. I do not receive any Gov. help at all, but a lot of my neighborhood does! I can only imagine when the neighbors down the street cant buy food or are forced to leave! They already start enough crap around here living off the Gov. tit.... Quoting: Mr. Shatner Honey, it's time to find a way or make a way out. Take an extended vacation to Red State America, rent a small apartment, find a job -- any job, and yes there are jobs here -- and ride this out, then put down roots. Whatever it takes. You are in a truly dangerous situation. I Support Our First Responders |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13926736 United States10/15/2013 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From another post: A mom of someone? Regarding the USDA Memo RE: SNAP By now, most everyone has seen this letter from the USDA regarding SNAP programs in ALL states. It has been on news sites, Facebook, and other places, so it did not originate here in this post. People have had questions about it which I will attempt to answer. Is it real? Yes, it is not photoshopped or otherwise counterfeited or forged. What does 'issuances' mean? Issuances are NEW SNAP cases. What does 'delay transmission to state EBT vendors' mean? Transmission to EBT vendors is the proces of 'loading' the EBT cards with the SNAP portion of welfare benefits. So......given that information, it is easier to understand what that letter means. Basically, the USDA is telling states NOT to issue new SNAP benefits beginning Nov 1, 2013 even if they have been approved AND not to load SNAP bennies on EBT cards already issued for the same time frame. Now, some states have enough $$ in their budgets to fund SNAP even after the Nov date, but this letter is telling them not to. Informed opinion is because the FedGov will not reimburse the States who might choose to do this if they have the funds to do it. There was also an article posted here on the Main regarding Section 8 Housing payments and Fuel Assistance in Massachussetts which can be read here: http:/ Those benefits will also end in Virginia as of Nov. 1, 2013. In addition, MANY state jobs in sectors which receive Federal funding will be furloughed as of Oct 18, 2013 here in Virginia. As to any other states regarding state jobs, Section 8 and/or Fuel Assistance, I have no clue aside from what was reported from Boston. I hope this information will help people plan accordingly for the worst case scenario. If the budget impasse is resolved before the 17th, it is all a moot point. |
| JasmineinNM
User ID: 15256858 United States10/15/2013 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] But is that only in Mass. or nation wide? |
| goodmockingbird
(OP) User ID: 48359356 United States10/15/2013 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] But is that only in Mass. or nation wide? That one article is about Massachussets. I have posted a couple of other articles from other states. It is nationwide that states will not recieve federal funding for Section 8 as of Nov 1. Some states may match those funds, or have managed their funding so that they are 'funded forward' or 'prefunded' (like saving up their money for a rainy day) and could continue Section 8 subsidies for some period of time. Each state could, if able, make up the difference, or take up the burden of funding Section 8. But which states could or would do that? Also, eviction statutes vary state to state. In short, the big federal money is not going to be given to the states like usual on Nov 1. The states can do whatever they want, or can, so far as taking up the slack, or letting it all play out. I Support Our First Responders |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48323514 United States10/15/2013 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] good. this is awesome. take away their food stamps too, these people should be dead soon enough. fucking socialist scum. Lol. Your life won't end too peacefully. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48420009 United States10/15/2013 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's an article from Texas: Quoting: goodmockingbird [link to lufkindailynews.com] Apparently in TX, the landlord cannot throw out the tenants as long as the tenants continue paying their share of the rent (however miniscule that may be). The original article I posted is from Massachussetts, and it is pretty clear that landlords there can evict tenants. Of course it is the landlords that are getting screwed!!! All I can safely predict is that a lot of various police department arson investigators will not get much rest. You are correct. I worked for a housing authority in Texas- landlords CANNOT evict as long as they are getting the rent from the tenants, no matter how little the tenant pays. |
| Hypertiger
User ID: 42750318 Canada10/15/2013 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its already collapsing...but you all are oblivious...once it become visible and you all are forced to see what you all do not right now...the liars on TV will tell you all what to believe is the cause of the effects...and you will...as usual. |
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| anonimalle
User ID: 40660236 United States10/15/2013 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... My husband and I have already discussed what we will do with our tenants should this happen. We will not turn them out. Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… Que Sera Sera "For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided" Bilisarius " At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war." Gates of Vienna. "May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26577320 United States10/15/2013 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... My husband and I have already discussed what we will do with our tenants should this happen. We will not turn them out. You sound like a great person.I truly hope your tenants appreciate you and take good care of your property. |
| TKC
User ID: 48028463 United States10/15/2013 07:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... My husband and I have already discussed what we will do with our tenants should this happen. We will not turn them out. What happens when theyre electric gets turned off cause the govt didn't pay that for them either? Wont your pipes freeze? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48397140 United States10/15/2013 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pardon me and all that, but GOOD! Let these bums pay their own rent. How did this situation even develop? I went homeless for years, and during that time I saw occasional TV or newspaper coverage of people receiving spanking new townhomes (in Chicago, as one example) which they soon ruined. I was the wrong skin colour and had a car to live in instead of a dumpster to shoot drugs in, so I didn't qualify. It's a disgrace to all those who work to pay rent, or just go without. I don't feel sorry for these people at all. Go get a job. If that isn't enough, go get two jobs. If that still isn't enough, make things, sell them at swap meets, wash cars, whatever. Early Americans had to practise this principle. Quoting: Jack The Zipper 48404959 YOU DESERVE TO DIE! |
| Whitelighting
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48397140 United States10/15/2013 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] good. this is awesome. take away their food stamps too, these people should be dead soon enough. fucking socialist scum. You sound like Kenneth Cates the queer landlord from Inverness florida! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 47013645 United States10/15/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... My husband and I have already discussed what we will do with our tenants should this happen. We will not turn them out. I think most people are like you and your husband. I'm wondering if the projects fall under section 8 housing? Places like NYC will have to fund this then and that will mean raising taxes immediately. |
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