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Two Friends, Two Churches: Both Pastors Telling Congregation to 'Remain Peaceful'.

 
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Two Friends, Two Churches: Both Pastors Telling Congregation to 'Remain Peaceful'.
So, a very close friend calls me this afternoon and tells me that his pastor in Oklahoma at a Baptist Church, told the congregation, "Jesus was a man of peace." "Violent revolt is against Jesus." And implied these were the actions of terrorist.

Another friend, residing back east, just told me they left in the middle of the sermon at a Lutheran Church because of a very similar message.

Spooky as hell, given that ministers have been trained by DHS to help out in times of unrest.

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Update: The Lutheran minister was espousing the virtues of Obamacare and to 'remain calm during the coming months'. What the fuck does that mean?
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Anyone else remember articles talking about preachers being taught to quell dissent?
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[link to www.ksla.com]


If martial law were enacted here at home, like depicted in the movie "The Siege", easing public fears and quelling dissent would be critical. And that's exactly what the 'Clergy Response Team' helped accomplish in the wake of Katrina.

I knew I didn't dream it!
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My church is going to be offering a class on prepping and getting ready... I'm excited
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My church is going to be offering a class on prepping and getting ready... I'm excited
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My kind of church!

"Don't believe the church and state...never hint at what you really feel."
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"The last of the old?"

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The churches received official tax-ememption status in 1984. That was only 1/2 of the deal though. What is not often mentioned was that many churches agreed to not preach against or criticize the government in exchange for that tax-exemption status (which was unofficially in place before 1984). Since then, most every denomination has become liberal and even supportive of the government.
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Why do they have to worry? The churches have been telling people they are going to raptured before anything bad happens for the past 180 years.

Prepping is for wussies. Kurt Kameron told me I'm getting Raptured!!

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Being in a church in the first place puts the sheep as suckers.
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Christians should remain calm, not stupid but calm. We should be prepared and if we haven't been we better be start getting our houses in order.
Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

The Bible could say more than it does BUT
The Bible doesn't say more than it says.
The Bible says what it means and means what it says.

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Why do they have to worry? The churches have been telling people they are going to raptured before anything bad happens for the past 180 years.

Prepping is for wussies. Kurt Kameron told me I'm getting Raptured!!

rofl5dancingmoving
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HAHHAHAHAH! *PAUSE* HHAHAHAHAHA!
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Why do they have to worry? The churches have been telling people they are going to raptured before anything bad happens for the past 180 years.

Prepping is for wussies. Kurt Kameron told me I'm getting Raptured!!

Pre-Trib Rapture biggest lie ever told...
Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

The Bible could say more than it does BUT
The Bible doesn't say more than it says.
The Bible says what it means and means what it says.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
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Membership in militia organizations has increased and decreased over the past twenty years. Events such as the Oklahoma City bombing and the 9-11 attacks have impacted militia organizations by refocusing their interests. While many militia members are not law violators, the presence of members who have more radical beliefs, such as Christian Identity, is a matter of concern.

Huh? That's funny, I never recall any militia people I have known advocating for AlQadea. How terribly odd.
(GLP aka American Jedi)

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Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum....

"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
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Why do they have to worry? The churches have been telling people they are going to raptured before anything bad happens for the past 180 years.

Prepping is for wussies. Kurt Kameron told me I'm getting Raptured!!

rofl5dancingmoving
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good job with dating!!
rapture theology has only been around since 1830

and certainly it isn't in the Bible
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Why do they have to worry? The churches have been telling people they are going to raptured before anything bad happens for the past 180 years.

Prepping is for wussies. Kurt Kameron told me I'm getting Raptured!!

Pre-Trib Rapture biggest lie ever told...
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Not according to Kurt Kameron & Ray Comfort!

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Obamacare is a inconvenience to you but if the Republicans stupid shut down plunge America into recession ten you will feel it.
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My church has had classes on the constitution. Pastor doesn't come right out and say which side he is on, but it's pretty clear. I truly believe if push came to shove and it was a matter of protecting our faith, he would speak up.
I'm not sure where this peaceful, wimpy Jesus came from. The hippies or something? Jesus freaked out and overturned tables of the money changers in the temple. Never once did he say he was cool with someone doing something wrong. He always told them to stop and don't do it again. He was most definitely not a tolerant man.
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Why do they have to worry? The churches have been telling people they are going to raptured before anything bad happens for the past 180 years.

Prepping is for wussies. Kurt Kameron told me I'm getting Raptured!!

Pre-Trib Rapture biggest lie ever told...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47423045


Not according to Kurt Kameron & Ray Comfort!


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Don't fucking derail the message of this thread with theological battles and name calling. I'll just delete your damned post and lock you out of the thread.

I really don't give a fuck to do so. I want this message to get to certain friends here. Not turn into a 'sky cake' free-for-all.

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"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
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Obamacare is a inconvenience to you but if the Republicans stupid shut down plunge America into recession ten you will feel it.
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Stay on topic. Furthermore, Apococare (my name for Obamacare) isn't 'free'. It's government mandated insurance. It's costly, destructive, and stupid.

It's exactly what I would expect from an affirmative action politician, who stands as proof an Ivy League education means jack shit.
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Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum....

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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Two Friends, Two Churches: Both Pastors Telling Congregation to 'Remain Peaceful'.
My church has had classes on the constitution. Pastor doesn't come right out and say which side he is on, but it's pretty clear. I truly believe if push came to shove and it was a matter of protecting our faith, he would speak up.
I'm not sure where this peaceful, wimpy Jesus came from. The hippies or something? Jesus freaked out and overturned tables of the money changers in the temple. Never once did he say he was cool with someone doing something wrong. He always told them to stop and don't do it again. He was most definitely not a tolerant man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47174404


It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.


He advocated killing pedophiles, guess the Vatican missed that one.
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Kenny Powers

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American Jedi

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Albert Einstein

Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum....

"The last of the old?"

"No, the first of the new."
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My church has had classes on the constitution. Pastor doesn't come right out and say which side he is on, but it's pretty clear. I truly believe if push came to shove and it was a matter of protecting our faith, he would speak up.
I'm not sure where this peaceful, wimpy Jesus came from. The hippies or something? Jesus freaked out and overturned tables of the money changers in the temple. Never once did he say he was cool with someone doing something wrong. He always told them to stop and don't do it again. He was most definitely not a tolerant man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47174404

You are aware that all of that was 'in-house cleaning' right?

The rules were laid out a long time ago, if you want to be alive to see the return the best bet is to follow these verse very carefully, it is called a test of your faith for lack of a better term.

De:4:29:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,

if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
De:4:31:
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
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The churches received official tax-ememption status in 1984. That was only 1/2 of the deal though. What is not often mentioned was that many churches agreed to not preach against or criticize the government in exchange for that tax-exemption status (which was unofficially in place before 1984). Since then, most every denomination has become liberal and even supportive of the government.
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hesright
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My church has had classes on the constitution. Pastor doesn't come right out and say which side he is on, but it's pretty clear. I truly believe if push came to shove and it was a matter of protecting our faith, he would speak up.
I'm not sure where this peaceful, wimpy Jesus came from. The hippies or something? Jesus freaked out and overturned tables of the money changers in the temple. Never once did he say he was cool with someone doing something wrong. He always told them to stop and don't do it again. He was most definitely not a tolerant man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47174404

You are aware that all of that was 'in-house cleaning' right?

The rules were laid out a long time ago, if you want to be alive to see the return the best bet is to follow these verse very carefully, it is called a test of your faith for lack of a better term.

De:4:29:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,

if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
De:4:31:
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
 Quoting: MHz


Yes, I realize that was in house cleaning. But it still goes against this frilly, prancing, hippy Jesus people like to think of. Yes, we are only to judge our fellow Christians, not unbelievers. And I'm not even saying He would approve of violence toward our government. After all, David taught us to respect those God has put in leadership...even when he was trying to kill him. I'm just pointing out that Jesus was not against using force.
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My church is going to be offering a class on prepping and getting ready... I'm excited
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My kind of church!

"Don't believe the church and state...never hint at what you really feel."
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lyrics...
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Re: Two Friends, Two Churches: Both Pastors Telling Congregation to 'Remain Peaceful'.
My church has had classes on the constitution. Pastor doesn't come right out and say which side he is on, but it's pretty clear. I truly believe if push came to shove and it was a matter of protecting our faith, he would speak up.
I'm not sure where this peaceful, wimpy Jesus came from. The hippies or something? Jesus freaked out and overturned tables of the money changers in the temple. Never once did he say he was cool with someone doing something wrong. He always told them to stop and don't do it again. He was most definitely not a tolerant man.
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He also told them to sell their cloak and buy a sword, they did not have guns back then. He said they were safe while he was there but he would not be there. They had to protect themselves from robber and thieves!:)
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My church is going to be offering a class on prepping and getting ready... I'm excited
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My kind of church!

"Don't believe the church and state...never hint at what you really feel."
 Quoting: Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi)


lyrics...

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can you hear me... can you hear me running...

there's a gun and ammunition just inside the doorway..
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My church is going to be offering a class on prepping and getting ready... I'm excited
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My kind of church!

"Don't believe the church and state...never hint at what you really feel."
 Quoting: Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi)


lyrics...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47367807


can you hear me... can you hear me running...

there's a gun and ammunition just inside the doorway..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47367807


use it only in emergencies...
(GLP aka American Jedi)

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Kenny Powers

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The churches received official tax-ememption status in 1984. That was only 1/2 of the deal though. What is not often mentioned was that many churches agreed to not preach against or criticize the government in exchange for that tax-exemption status (which was unofficially in place before 1984). Since then, most every denomination has become liberal and even supportive of the government.
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Beautiful avatar btw.
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Why do they have to worry? The churches have been telling people they are going to raptured before anything bad happens for the past 180 years.

Prepping is for wussies. Kurt Kameron told me I'm getting Raptured!!

rofl5dancingmoving
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Ruptured is more like it





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