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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47378908 United States 09/24/2013 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Preachers, pastors, ministers... All human beings, capable of learning and making mistakes just like you. Why would you believe what some other human thinks? What makes them so sure they're right? Use your own powerful brain. |
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User ID: 37709684 United States 09/24/2013 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just don't like to be told that I have to accept everything they tell us. Quoting: Nika It's kind of the same as someone telling you never to question authority. Each & every ones journey is different. Normally, those that required Churches and such need others to affirm their own beliefs. Myself, I believe it is within us all and the search is also within us. By finding yourself, you find the true meaning of spirit. Good luck on your journey, it'll last a life time! Peace! "The Tree of Liberty is Thirsty and needs Watering" -Me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37520468 United States 09/24/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was raised in a Christian family and questioned it always. Got saved at maybe 15 then at 16 I just didn't believe it. Not that I think it's wrong, I just need some proof. I need something more than just hoping its real. I'm waiting in God to personally reveal himself to me, until then I'm pretty sure he would understand my questioning. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21057428 United States 09/24/2013 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was raised in church...in a christian family. But I've wondered about many things for quite some time now. Quoting: Nika I can't help shake this feeling that what we've been told is NOT the truth! And now at 39 yrs old, I just feel so confused. I don't know what to believe anymore. Both my parents think I'm "back slid" and hell bound because I question what preachers, pastors, ministers have been telling "christians" for hundreds of years now....if not thousands. My dad just asked me what my problem is because I posted on facebook that everyone could keep their religion and doctrine because it's just their version of the truth. Why do any ONE religion have to have ALL the answers? You ask any religion....... christianity, catholic, jew, muslim, hindu....... They ALL will tell you their way...their bible and their god is the right one and all the others is a lie! Maybe they all are lies! Maybe they all are truth! Why should I believe in only the christian bible? Why should I follow any religion? Why can't I just know that there is a higher power out there and just have love in my heart for all creation? Afterall, isn't God just energy? Isn't everything that exist, including us, energy? Nika, there is some truth in most religions, but the whole truth is in the bible. That is the truth. You don't have to be religious, or a church person, you just have to have a personal relationship with the Lord and live your life based on LOVE. I'm not religious, or a church person, but I am a spiritual person and I love the Lord and do my best to live a decent life according to the bible, the 10 commandments mainly. But, if your life is based on love, you will keep those commandments anyway because they are all about love when you get right down to it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47275705 Australia 09/24/2013 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was raised in church...in a christian family. But I've wondered about many things for quite some time now. Quoting: Nika I can't help shake this feeling that what we've been told is NOT the truth! And now at 39 yrs old, I just feel so confused. I don't know what to believe anymore. Both my parents think I'm "back slid" and hell bound because I question what preachers, pastors, ministers have been telling "christians" for hundreds of years now....if not thousands. My dad just asked me what my problem is because I posted on facebook that everyone could keep their religion and doctrine because it's just their version of the truth. Why do any ONE religion have to have ALL the answers? You ask any religion....... christianity, catholic, jew, muslim, hindu....... They ALL will tell you their way...their bible and their god is the right one and all the others is a lie! Maybe they all are lies! Maybe they all are truth! Why should I believe in only the christian bible? Why should I follow any religion? Why can't I just know that there is a higher power out there and just have love in my heart for all creation? Afterall, isn't God just energy? Isn't everything that exist, including us, energy? Its normal. Thats the age I was when I began to ask the "Forbidden" questions. Now..go and be FREE. www.tentmaker.org All your questions answered there. God as it turns out is NOT a sadstic asshole that you were taught he was. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41940043 United States 09/24/2013 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you are questioning your faith? Or are you questioning GOD? Before you come to any quick conclusions, I would please ask you to search GOD with all of your heart and trust in Him. I am a Christian. I do believe Jesus Christ was sent from The Father. He is my Lord and Savior. Would GOD rather you be indoctrinated or rather seek Him by faith? Do you trust in religion or do you trust in Him? GOD did not send His Son to give you religion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47275705 Australia 09/24/2013 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: But..GOD PLANNED hell..HE WANTS to torture most of your forever. What you and I were raised with..fear and terror and lies.^^ Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell. What Jesus ACTUALLY taught..what they DONT teach you in church..the TRUTH^^^ Love and mercy makes no money. Fear and blackmail does. Thread: (FAKE) Christianity is based on nothing but FEAR and BLACKMAIL and EVIL HATE!! Thats why you and I know this^^^is true..because WE WERE THERE and were JUST LIKE THEM. Raised in FEAR..threatened with TERROR and TORTURE..made to feel GUILTY for being born human.. And squeezed into the mold..and turned into hate filled hypocrites.. Taught to AVOID certain bible passages.. Thread: If christians love the BIBLE so uch why do they ignore most of it to fit an agenday? Until our eyes opened to what the Lord was REALLY all about. |
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(OP) User ID: 5711354 United States 09/24/2013 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: But..GOD PLANNED hell..HE WANTS to torture most of your forever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47275705 What you and I were raised with..fear and terror and lies.^^ Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell. What Jesus ACTUALLY taught..what they DONT teach you in church..the TRUTH^^^ Love and mercy makes no money. Fear and blackmail does. Thread: (FAKE) Christianity is based on nothing but FEAR and BLACKMAIL and EVIL HATE!! Thats why you and I know this^^^is true..because WE WERE THERE and were JUST LIKE THEM. Raised in FEAR..threatened with TERROR and TORTURE..made to feel GUILTY for being born human.. And squeezed into the mold..and turned into hate filled hypocrites.. Taught to AVOID certain bible passages.. Thread: If christians love the BIBLE so uch why do they ignore most of it to fit an agenday? Until our eyes opened to what the Lord was REALLY all about. I don't know why, but your reply just brought to me uncontrollable tears. It really resonated with me I guess. Thank you! :infnty: :ihavgsbmp: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47275705 Australia 09/24/2013 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: But..GOD PLANNED hell..HE WANTS to torture most of your forever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47275705 What you and I were raised with..fear and terror and lies.^^ Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell. What Jesus ACTUALLY taught..what they DONT teach you in church..the TRUTH^^^ Love and mercy makes no money. Fear and blackmail does. Thread: (FAKE) Christianity is based on nothing but FEAR and BLACKMAIL and EVIL HATE!! Thats why you and I know this^^^is true..because WE WERE THERE and were JUST LIKE THEM. Raised in FEAR..threatened with TERROR and TORTURE..made to feel GUILTY for being born human.. And squeezed into the mold..and turned into hate filled hypocrites.. Taught to AVOID certain bible passages.. Thread: If christians love the BIBLE so uch why do they ignore most of it to fit an agenday? Until our eyes opened to what the Lord was REALLY all about. I don't know why, but your reply just brought to me uncontrollable tears. It really resonated with me I guess. Thank you! BE FREE..you are SO loved..I really do understand where you are at..and what the Lord is leading you to..the TRUTH. He IS LOVE.. God IS love. Its NOT an ATTRIBUTE of his..its what HE ACTAULLY IS!!!!!! 1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the LOVE that GOD ACTUALLY IS??? 1Co 13:4 LOVE suffereth long, and is kind; LOVE envieth not; LOVE vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 1Co 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 1Co 13:8 LOVE never faileth: But to hear most christians preach...what WE were taught..its twisted to mean... 1Jn 4:8 He that condemeth others not to hell knoweth not God; for God is JUSTICE and REVENGE. 1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the JUSTICE and RAGE that God hath to us. God is JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE; and he that dwelleth in JUSTICE and etrnal SPITE dwelleth in God, and God in him. So WHAT are the TELLING FEATURES of the JUSTICE and ETERNAL RAGE that GOD ACTUALLY IS according to how they preach it??? 1Co 13:4 JUSTICE and RAGE suffereth NOTHING, and is unkind; JUSTICE and RAGE envieth all things; JUSTICE and RAGE vaunteth itself and DEMANDS worship on pain of ETERNAL TORURE, and is INCREDIBLY puffed up, 1Co 13:5 Doth behave itself unseemly, seeketh always its own, easily provoked, thinketh eternal evil; 1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth in iniquity, but rejoiceth NOT in the truth; 1Co 13:7 Burneth all things, condemneth all things, hopeth all things burn, endureth nothing. 1Co 13:8 And LOVE??? well..it ALWAYS faileth: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40337870 United States 09/24/2013 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has taken years to come to peace--to find that I can still believe in God; yet, see God a little differently. For example, I went and read the Gnostic gospels and realized that Jesus might have been teaching ideas that might be considered closer to quantum physics or something like that. Find the things Jesus was saying to the Pharisees in the temple in Thomas's gospel and you will be shocked. Look at his miracles and how angry the pharisees were and think of it in a different light. Why were they so scared? Oh, I know all the pat answers that we have been taught; but, what if he was really showing people the reality of the way the world works and that information was scaring them (walking on water, water into wine, etc. (read the gospel of Thomas for that info). I still don't have answers, but I am trying to find them and I can say this is a hard path. One thing I know is this; You can't make yourself believe something that you just don't believe and the path of discovery will still lead you to God--maybe a bigger and greater God than you have ever imagined. In the meantime, I am pretty sure that God loves honesty--so it is probably best to be honest with yourself and with God and then go from there. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28081073 Sweden 09/24/2013 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are what is called (in Sweden at least) "private religious". It's more common than you would imagine. And for people being religious to one or the other churches they would be more inclined to walk this way, seeing what fanatic religious people are capable of doing (Syria for one recent example). I remember seeing a report on this way back that about 20 percent or something like it back then were this. Would think there are more now. So you are not strange in any way. It sounds you are enlightened in some way. We should as individuals chose our own path, and we would know which in our hearts. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34211937 United States 09/24/2013 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in HISTORY! Jews and Muslims all believe that Jesus was real. They are only deceived in that they do not that he was God's son - they thought he was a prophet even though he raised people from the dead and did many other things that no prophet in history ever did! Satan wants you to go into new age garbage, Buddhism and other stuff to take your soul. Because if you go down that stupid road and die before you have a chance to wake up then you go to hell. I was lucky to have woke up before I died but none of us is promised tomorrow. Now that I'm older, I know Jesus is the only way, not because I read it in the Bible but because I've done much more research and I've seen that only Jesus' name gets rid of demons. Only Jesus heals the sick. Only Jesus rose from the dead. Only Jesus raised others from the dead! This is documented fact by multiple writers who all tell the same stories. Over 500 people saw Jesus after he was crucified! God gives you the free will to go away from Christ but you do so at great risk because hell is forever and right now you seem to be saying that you deny Christ. I pray you come back to the Lord. Walking without the Lord is very very stupid once you know he's real because you are risking eternal damnation because YOU didn't do DEEP research into the Bible and Jesus Christ. Some people are awake to Fluoride and the new world order because they did research on it but they are so deceived about God and Jesus that they won't even look into it! If they never wake up to the fact that their only hope is Jesus then they go to hell where all those serving the satanic new world order go. God bless everybody reading this. Keep an open mind to Jesus and deeply study it as you have the NWO! If you do, you'll know he's real too! |
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User ID: 46809304 United States 09/24/2013 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just don't like to be told that I have to accept everything they tell us. Quoting: Nika It's kind of the same as someone telling you never to question authority. So many folks are afraid to go against the norm. It can speak of too open minded or too free spirited. Anyone can believe what they want but personally I think Christians have been largely mislead. They don't realize they are worshiping a sacrificed man to serve as a means to build a church? They don't see themselves obsessed by the very book that preaches against worshiping false idols? For many a Christian and /or Catholic The Bible is their God, I always wondered if God laughs about their lunacy. |
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(OP) User ID: 5720818 United States 09/24/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they tell us all that if we don't believe in the "christian" God or even if we do, but also believe other gods exist, that we are not saved and we're going to hell?! Why are we all taught that buddism is bad? Hinduism is bad? Islam is bad? Maybe we are all worshipping the same God. Maybe he has many different names... God, Allah, Crishna, Gaia....or Flying Eagle! I don't know...... :infnty: :ihavgsbmp: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47275705 Australia 09/24/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you so foolish that you question God's word - the Bible when over 2000 prophecies have come true? There isn't a book in the world that has even a tiny FRACTION of 2000 prophecies come true! Why? Because only the Bible is God's word Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34211937 There is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in HISTORY! Jews and Muslims all believe that Jesus was real. They are only deceived in that they do not that he was God's son - they thought he was a prophet even though he raised people from the dead and did many other things that no prophet in history ever did! Satan wants you to go into new age garbage, Buddhism and other stuff to take your soul. Because if you go down that stupid road and die before you have a chance to wake up then you go to hell. I was lucky to have woke up before I died but none of us is promised tomorrow. Now that I'm older, I know Jesus is the only way, not because I read it in the Bible but because I've done much more research and I've seen that only Jesus' name gets rid of demons. Only Jesus heals the sick. Only Jesus rose from the dead. Only Jesus raised others from the dead! This is documented fact by multiple writers who all tell the same stories. Over 500 people saw Jesus after he was crucified! God gives you the free will to go away from Christ but you do so at great risk because hell is forever and right now you seem to be saying that you deny Christ. I pray you come back to the Lord. Walking without the Lord is very very stupid once you know he's real because you are risking eternal damnation because YOU didn't do DEEP research into the Bible and Jesus Christ. Some people are awake to Fluoride and the new world order because they did research on it but they are so deceived about God and Jesus that they won't even look into it! If they never wake up to the fact that their only hope is Jesus then they go to hell where all those serving the satanic new world order go. God bless everybody reading this. Keep an open mind to Jesus and deeply study it as you have the NWO! If you do, you'll know he's real too! EVIL^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Dont fall for the satanic blackmail that blackens the lords name OP. BE FREE! Thread: (FAKE) Christianity is based on nothing but FEAR and BLACKMAIL and EVIL HATE!! |
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(OP) User ID: 5806675 United States 09/24/2013 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you so foolish that you question God's word - the Bible when over 2000 prophecies have come true? There isn't a book in the world that has even a tiny FRACTION of 2000 prophecies come true! Why? Because only the Bible is God's word Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34211937 There is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in HISTORY! Jews and Muslims all believe that Jesus was real. They are only deceived in that they do not that he was God's son - they thought he was a prophet even though he raised people from the dead and did many other things that no prophet in history ever did! Satan wants you to go into new age garbage, Buddhism and other stuff to take your soul. Because if you go down that stupid road and die before you have a chance to wake up then you go to hell. I was lucky to have woke up before I died but none of us is promised tomorrow. Now that I'm older, I know Jesus is the only way, not because I read it in the Bible but because I've done much more research and I've seen that only Jesus' name gets rid of demons. Only Jesus heals the sick. Only Jesus rose from the dead. Only Jesus raised others from the dead! This is documented fact by multiple writers who all tell the same stories. Over 500 people saw Jesus after he was crucified! God gives you the free will to go away from Christ but you do so at great risk because hell is forever and right now you seem to be saying that you deny Christ. I pray you come back to the Lord. Walking without the Lord is very very stupid once you know he's real because you are risking eternal damnation because YOU didn't do DEEP research into the Bible and Jesus Christ. Some people are awake to Fluoride and the new world order because they did research on it but they are so deceived about God and Jesus that they won't even look into it! If they never wake up to the fact that their only hope is Jesus then they go to hell where all those serving the satanic new world order go. God bless everybody reading this. Keep an open mind to Jesus and deeply study it as you have the NWO! If you do, you'll know he's real too! Ok you sound like my dad. For one, I NEVER said I didn't believe in Jesus or believe he is the son of God. And thank you....you prove my point..... Trying to scare me into believing what you've been taught. Why would God or Jesus want anyone to love and follow him out of guilt or fear. THAT IS NOT TRUE LOVE! :infnty: :ihavgsbmp: |
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User ID: 46809304 United States 09/24/2013 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you so foolish that you question God's word - the Bible when over 2000 prophecies have come true? There isn't a book in the world that has even a tiny FRACTION of 2000 prophecies come true! Why? Because only the Bible is God's word Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34211937 There is more evidence for Jesus outside of the Bible than any person in HISTORY! Jews and Muslims all believe that Jesus was real. They are only deceived in that they do not that he was God's son - they thought he was a prophet even though he raised people from the dead and did many other things that no prophet in history ever did! Satan wants you to go into new age garbage, Buddhism and other stuff to take your soul. Because if you go down that stupid road and die before you have a chance to wake up then you go to hell. I was lucky to have woke up before I died but none of us is promised tomorrow. Now that I'm older, I know Jesus is the only way, not because I read it in the Bible but because I've done much more research and I've seen that only Jesus' name gets rid of demons. Only Jesus heals the sick. Only Jesus rose from the dead. Only Jesus raised others from the dead! This is documented fact by multiple writers who all tell the same stories. Over 500 people saw Jesus after he was crucified! God gives you the free will to go away from Christ but you do so at great risk because hell is forever and right now you seem to be saying that you deny Christ. I pray you come back to the Lord. Walking without the Lord is very very stupid once you know he's real because you are risking eternal damnation because YOU didn't do DEEP research into the Bible and Jesus Christ. Some people are awake to Fluoride and the new world order because they did research on it but they are so deceived about God and Jesus that they won't even look into it! If they never wake up to the fact that their only hope is Jesus then they go to hell where all those serving the satanic new world order go. God bless everybody reading this. Keep an open mind to Jesus and deeply study it as you have the NWO! If you do, you'll know he's real too! Open minded to what though, especially if God could go by many names. If we are talking about letters and words we're talking about language. There are many languages, not all translate Jesus or God the same. And, if we're talking about context or meaning of God and Jesus we're talking about philosophies that were active as different names in different cultures from all over the world, just in different words (different languages). Angels to some, demons to others. Gods to some, devils to others. |