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How far should private business be forced to go to accommodate handicap individuals?

 
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09/19/2013 08:47 AM
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Re: How far should private business be forced to go to accommodate handicap individuals?
If you actually knew what it was like to have a physical or sensory disability, you would know how far a business should have to go.

Why shouldn't we enjoy a movie the same as everyone else does?

I wish you could spend a week with a physical or sensory disability, then you might decide that your original post may need altering, as your douche is quite prominent throughout.
 Quoting: InsertWittyNameHere


I make my living making handicapped individual's lives better. Our company alters any home or business to fit the needs of the occupants, no matter what the disability. Every day I see what people with disabilities go through. I've worked for hours in houses with handicap children that basically scream all day. You cannot help but notice the effects on the parents and caregivers. It is beyond heartbreaking when you see the sacrifice people make every day. No, I cannot imagine the pain and discomfort of the afflicted they care for. How could I?

You are needlessly offended by this thread. I see both sides of the coin, because it is my business. I understand very much the desire for the disabled to enjoy life as much as possible, and do the things others enjoy for granted. I also see the business' side of things as well.
Maybe if we could start from scratch, and rebuild everything with the disabled in mind, things would be different. Things just don't work that way.
It requires not the law to change now, but people's minds. Developers, architects and contractors, and investors and the like are where it starts. Rather than being forced to comply after a building is up, the handicapped accessibility needs to be in the blueprint.

There has to be a happy medium. But what's the answer?
 Quoting: RantProne


I am registered blind.
I have to pay for everything to enable me to do things non blind people can do for free.
If I want to walk outside, I have to have a white cane that cost me £30, and needs replacing every few months.
To use a computer, I cannot just go into pc world and buy a special offer, I have to go to RNIB and buy a computer system costing over £1000.
To read my own mail, I either have to ask someone else to read it for me, or buy a cctv screenreader for hundreds of pounds (Because the company sending the letter "doesn't have the facility" (I.e. can't be arsed) to send it in large print - government departments are the worst for this.
Cooking a meal involves specialist equipment that is much more expensive than the "mainstream" version.
I cannot use an ATM, so cannot access my hard earned money 24 hours a day like other people - unless I give someone my PIN number.

I work hard and pay for all of the things I need myself.

I work over 40 hours a week, am I not entitled to go to a theatre or cinema, because the premises has to pay a little extra?

A one off cost, then a smaller amount every so often for maintenance for very snmall numbers of people to use - who are paying to use the services of the premises after all.

I have to buy expensive things all of the time just to enable myself to go out to work and earn money!
 Quoting: InsertWittyNameHere


If you could make some changes to the public arena to help disabled folk, what would they be?
Also, buying specialized equipment on your own is very expensive, as we see. Could the manufacturers of handicap equipment and the caregivers who charge high fees maybe do their part in the equation to make things more affordable?
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09/19/2013 08:59 AM
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Re: How far should private business be forced to go to accommodate handicap individuals?
This is idiotic! Blind people can't see the movie and deaf people can't hear the movie. Why would anyone pay for something the can't see or hear? Intellectually disabled people can't understand the movie so they shouldn't be there either!
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09/19/2013 09:19 AM
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Re: How far should private business be forced to go to accommodate handicap individuals?
If you actually knew what it was like to have a physical or sensory disability, you would know how far a business should have to go.

Why shouldn't we enjoy a movie the same as everyone else does?

I wish you could spend a week with a physical or sensory disability, then you might decide that your original post may need altering, as your douche is quite prominent throughout.
 Quoting: InsertWittyNameHere


Yes, but the term "disability" is becoming so watered down that it is applying to more people who can live a complete life without all the extras (think speech impediments, ADHD, Asperger's, mental illness). Yet, due to their diagnosed disability, they get a free ride for the rest of their lives.

I work with the disabled. It makes me very angry to see parents with their advocates demanding their children be admitted into the special education system. They do this because once a child has an IEP, they find it's much easier to qualify for SS payments. Several hundred a month for life because you have ADHD? Give me a break!

In the end, what it boils down to is the Americans with Disabilities Act is slowly bankrupting our schools and small businesses.

If you are blind, you can still hear the movie. If you are deaf you can see it. Why can't you attend one of the theatres that already offer the services rather than demanding some small one or two-screen theatre go broke trying to accommodate you?
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09/19/2013 10:36 AM
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Re: How far should private business be forced to go to accommodate handicap individuals?
If you actually knew what it was like to have a physical or sensory disability, you would know how far a business should have to go.

Why shouldn't we enjoy a movie the same as everyone else does?

I wish you could spend a week with a physical or sensory disability, then you might decide that your original post may need altering, as your douche is quite prominent throughout.
 Quoting: InsertWittyNameHere


Yes, but the term "disability" is becoming so watered down that it is applying to more people who can live a complete life without all the extras (think speech impediments, ADHD, Asperger's, mental illness). Yet, due to their diagnosed disability, they get a free ride for the rest of their lives.

I work with the disabled. It makes me very angry to see parents with their advocates demanding their children be admitted into the special education system. They do this because once a child has an IEP, they find it's much easier to qualify for SS payments. Several hundred a month for life because you have ADHD? Give me a break!

In the end, what it boils down to is the Americans with Disabilities Act is slowly bankrupting our schools and small businesses.

If you are blind, you can still hear the movie. If you are deaf you can see it. Why can't you attend one of the theatres that already offer the services rather than demanding some small one or two-screen theatre go broke trying to accommodate you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45485322


It's just like all the handicapped spots at the stores. More often than not, you see people hopping out of the cars and walking into the stores like they have no difficulty whatsoever. They use the excuse that they have a disability in which they have good days and bad days - such as MS.

Now, I'm as empathetic as the next person when you are having a bad day, but when you are having a good day...WALK THE HECK TO THE STORE FROM THE REGULAR PARKING LOT!!!
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Re: How far should private business be forced to go to accommodate handicap individuals?
My girlfriend has MS, and her take is that as long as a good faith effort has been made, it's up to her to work with what they can provide. At least in her case, she does NOT expect everybody should have to pony up to make life easier for her special circumstance. She does, however, favor businesses with easier parking and ramps, so there is a natural business aspect at work there, the way it should be!
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I hope she is doing well.

I agree.

Reasonable efforts fine, and beyond that, let me figure it out.

for myself or others.
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01/08/2015 05:51 PM
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Re: How far should private business be forced to go to accommodate handicap individuals?
I think 19 or 65 units is probably good.
All this has happened before, and will happen again.





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