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Éireann  (OP)

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09/03/2013 02:35 PM
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Miggy what has happened to you? I thought u had things together? Thought things were working out and now u r living in a sh$th*le.
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Actually. This is a better place than I was, if you can imagine. Lol

I will keep climbing back up as long as it takes me or until I am dead.

Seriously, I am blessed for having a roof over my head. It was not long ago that I didn't have that.

I just wish I weren't made to feel like such scum all the time.

I don't like working minimum wage, cleaning out cat kennels.

Sometimes memory actually sucks, Eireann, as it wasn't long ago that I made a 3-figure income, lived in a gorgeous home, and was on the giving end of help agencies.

That can be painful on a day like today when I'll come home tonight, smelling of cat litter, and needing to go to the office tomorrow to ask if I can break my rental payments up into two this month.

She'll most likely smirk, give her speech in that condescending tone she has mastered and I'll have to suck it up like everyone else does.

In the end, I WILL get out of here and I can't wait for the day when I'll be able to post a thread, "MIGGY is finally FREE!"

In the mean time, had it not been for the wonderful posters on this forum who are too great in number to mention, I KNOW there is no way in HELL I would have come this far.

Eireann will get out, too. I'm glad she's brought this matter to everyone's attention. She's not exaggerating, It's seriously as bad as she has stated.

But I believe her and I both have a greater calling.
And that's what sustains me, anyway.
 Quoting: Miggy

Do you know that I do not regret anything that has ever happened to me? Had these things not happened, I would never understand what other people in the same situation were going through and how to help them change their stars. I don't believe that these things are meant to punish us but to enrich us and enable us to be better people. We were already law abiding and kind people before our misfortunes, Mig, but now we are armed with knowledge and the skills to help others in our boat. I think that's worth more than gold and when TS does HTF, I know that I will be ready to meet it head on.
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
Robert The Bobert

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Sounds awful OP, hopefully you can find yourself a new place to live. Whats the name of this place? Hope you name and shame them when you have moved.
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As many of you know, I'm mentally disabled.

*pauses for laughter*

Besides having PTSD, I am losing my memory at a rather alarming rate.
 Quoting: Éireann


E,

Look, I bitch and whine all the time about people that get "Free Stuff" but yet are able to work. They do what you are doing but its because they are lazy.

Want to know a little secret? If it weren't for people like you and the fact that my tax money helps keep you from starving, being out on the street, etc, I'd figure out a way to pay NOTHING! Thats right. The government can go straight to hell but I can't figure out a way to just stop paying because I know it helps people like you. I just want to say:

Its not your fault.

We're glad we can help.

I'm sorry things aren't better.

Do you have a paypal account?

Anybody can spare a $5. What will that do for you? Not much. Even if I get 500 people to send you that much, its only $2500 and eventually it will run out. Here is what I propose:

Lets all send E $5 a month until she has enough to move. Do it via paypal. Time cap: 3 months.

No one deserves a hand out. Everyone deserves a helping hand. The trick is knowing the difference. She'd convinced me. Anybody else?

What do you say E? Nobody should have to live like that. Sure, some of that is a real pain but DRESSER DRAWER INSPECTIONS? Thats just bullshit!
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I would gladly sign up for that. hf
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Lol I do work with alot of elderly properties. I know what I am talking about and deal with tenants like you everyday with their excuses and complaints. You have a husband and sounds like you both are working the system. And you probally met online because neither one of you work and sit online all day while the taxpayers pay your rent and your food stamps.
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B######, would you do me a favor and open the office tomorrow so I can talk with you?

Thanks.

Miggy
 Quoting: Miggy

chuckle
 Quoting: Éireann


First off I am not a manager. I supervise the managers. They have a toygh job dealing with tenants like both of you. You both show what they deal with daily. Calling me a b...*** and the other one laughing about it. But when you work in low income housing what do you expect.
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Now you know why people voted for Obama.
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HUSBAND? Is his income counted toward the 30% of your income you are to pay as rent? I bet not. This is fraud if not. I don't feel sorry for you. I am in subsized housing and we see people like you everyday cheating the government by hiding income. That.s why there are rules. May be they are looking in your drawers to see if any unauthorized person with income is living there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46206313

Maybe it's the structure of your brain. If so people are who they are which is what Carl Jung was so helpful about in gaining perspective 80% herd instinct (can't help it) 17% individuating (exploratory, rejected by the herd as a backhanded mercy) and individuated 3% just have a heckuva lot to offer their fellows working on perfecting somethings new and fresh, to whom those individuating turn.

So, you are not one to waste time with, no more than the time of day.

Look at any wholesome society and that is one that reinvests in their lifeblood, their population, which has good will and is merciful as a matter of course.
Having worked since the age of 16 formally (Got fired from my first job because I was underage) never once did I resent or give a second thought to supporting my fellows in times of hardship or incapacity and still feel resentment though to killing people who've done us no harm is what I feel is worthy of my anger.

This country is depressed overall from the kind of aggression you have to 'kick the dog' instead of those who are ravaging you right this second.

Were you 1/8th the human being Eireann is maybe you might have a chance of escaping that subhuman huffymental hell you dwell in.
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Now you know why people voted for Obama.
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Exactly
Miggy

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Do you know that I do not regret anything that has ever happened to me? Had these things not happened, I would never understand what other people in the same situation were going through and how to help them change their stars. I don't believe that these things are meant to punish us but to enrich us and enable us to be better people. We were already law abiding and kind people before our misfortunes, Mig, but now we are armed with knowledge and the skills to help others in our boat. I think that's worth more than gold and when TS does HTF, I know that I will be ready to meet it head on.
 Quoting: Éireann


I believe this as well, Eireann. Again, it sustains me.

I always loved people, had compassion, gave financially, etc.

But I had no IDEA that this is what they were going through.

Now I have counselors who try and tell me how to do this or that and I just stare at them in disbelief. Not ONE of them could stand living here for 1 week, much less indefinitely.

It's one of the reasons I threw out my medications 6 weeks ago. It pissed my counselor and doctor off to no end.

But I reminded them that I came to them 3 years ago and was open to their suggestions but it isn't working out doing it THEIR way. I'm not any better off and possibly deeper down as the result of my "treatment" care.

I'm not an idiot. I know they are also funded in part and earn their paycheck off of "sick" people like me.

Well, they've got an awakening coming because I'm not going to do it their way any longer.

I was successful for 35 years in the workplace and I will rise up again.

Last night I was raised a dollar an hour over minimum wage (15-20 hour work-week) and if this apartment complex thinks I'm going to report it so they can hike my rent another $20 or $30 a month they can KISS MY ASS!

Sorry if I sound bitter but this place is making me that way.

Anyway, off to the pet store.

Hope you guys have a wonderful day.

Miggy
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OP, this is what you should do:

READ YOUR LEASE
SEEK LEGAL AID COUNCIL


If you are in a small town, it's hard to say whether or not you have legal aid services locally, but based on your income you should qualify for advice and or representation. I think that the searches you describe are absolute BULLSHIT, but if these provisions are specifically outlined in your lease, and you signed on the dotted line, it could be legit. Being on public assistance SUCKS, as I've had my own run ins with contractors and agencies that think they can do whatever they want whenever they please. Make it a point to document everything.
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Now you know why people voted for Obama.
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Exactly
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I couldn't wait until someone made this comment.

For the record, and this is the HONEST TO GOD's TRUTH, NOBODY in my building voted for Obama. We all hate him.
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Lol I do work with alot of elderly properties. I know what I am talking about and deal with tenants like you everyday with their excuses and complaints. You have a husband and sounds like you both are working the system. And you probally met online because neither one of you work and sit online all day while the taxpayers pay your rent and your food stamps.
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B######, would you do me a favor and open the office tomorrow so I can talk with you?

Thanks.

Miggy
 Quoting: Miggy

chuckle
 Quoting: Éireann


First off I am not a manager. I supervise the managers. They have a toygh job dealing with tenants like both of you. You both show what they deal with daily. Calling me a b...*** and the other one laughing about it. But when you work in low income housing what do you expect.
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Put it on a TS Chit and send it to the Chaplin.
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dude, quit your bitching..sounds like I'm paying for it anyway not you. If you don't like it then go get a job flipping burgers. Sounds like I have to pay your water bill and mine. What chaps my ass is people like yourself that complain about how they are disabled and can't work but yet are competent enough to hack out a lengthy dissertation about their problems on a computer. If you can do that, then you can do other work on your computer to help you get off of tax payer support. Now man up and do what you have to to not be a burden on society.
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I'm not some 21 year old with 10 kids all on welfare. I worked for 30 plus years so keep your anger for those that get without giving. I also work from home. It's not much, but it's getting better. If you'd actually read my post you would see that the majority of the people who live here are elderly. It is them I am concerned about. I do understand the stigma associated with those who receive any kind of public assistance, but not everyone who does fits the stereotype. The lady who lives next door to me is a retired nurse. She is 68 years old and has COPD from years of terrible asthma. She was born with it and she went to college - twice - to become a nurse. She went twice because technology changed and she wanted her degree to reflect her up-to-date knowledge of nursing. Get facts about people before you spout off. I hope you never find yourself in this situation. Your arrogance is so typical.
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So anger against a 21 year old with 10 kids is ok? So only those in your circle of misery deserve help but not others?

You're not very bootstrappy, are you?
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Yes, and yes, to the bolded questions. Not sure what the last one means.

The mother of 10 had the kids knowing she would not be paying to raise them. Well I want her to get a surprise -- the taxpayers won't pay to raise them either! Adopt them out.

Whereas OP here didn't do anything to increase the taxpayer's burden and is being very responsible. She is beset by circumstances and is the sort of person I am quite willing for assistance dollars to go to. A lot less assistance dollars than the mother of 10 would get.
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First off I am not a manager. I supervise the managers. They have a toygh job dealing with tenants like both of you. You both show what they deal with daily. Calling me a b...*** and the other one laughing about it. But when you work in low income housing what do you expect.
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I wasn't calling you a b******.

The apartment manager's name begins with the letter B and I didn't feel like disclosing it.

And I promise you, they don't deal with ME daily at all.
I deal with THEM.
Éireann  (OP)

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Lol I do work with alot of elderly properties. I know what I am talking about and deal with tenants like you everyday with their excuses and complaints. You have a husband and sounds like you both are working the system. And you probally met online because neither one of you work and sit online all day while the taxpayers pay your rent and your food stamps.
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The elderly properties we have we supply the computers and the internet. Are you using one of the property computers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46206313

My goodness what a chip you have.

No. I'm using the computer I saved for and bought with my own money. Just like my car parked outside. I paid cash for it after working my little job here at home and saving for two years.

I realize you work with some really shady folks, but not all of us are like that. And if you'd read back in the thread, I've already answered about my husband. He lives in the Netherlands. I live here. We have been parted for 5 years. I'm required to make 30k a year to sponsor him here which is why our application for residency was denied when we filed in 2008. He had to go back to the Netherlands since he couldn't stay here illegally. We aren't good at evading the law.

But remember, this is 2008. The economy was in shambles and he wasn't having the greatest time when he got back home finding work. He did a lot of temp work and finally landed a job with the Dutch IRS. But because it was a temp job with a week to week contract, it didn't meet the requirements of full-time permanent employment. He needed a job with a company that offered a contract of a year or more and he had to make a certain salary in order to qualify to sponsor me over there. We were so close. He found a company and after a year of working there, his contract was to to be renewed in April of this year. But because of a slow economy, the company had to cut back and he was one of the people who was let go. So, we had to start all over.

I feel like you are angry with me and I'm not sure why. Any monies that he has sent me or my parent's have given to help me has been accounted for on my taxes and reported to the Housing Authority. I've lived my life by the rules. I have a degree, I've worked some really crappy jobs which finally lead to the best job I've ever had when I worked in D.C. I had it "going on"! I lost everything to a medical bankruptcy. I've since paid off my debts from the settlement, even if it was only $10 at a time. I've worked hard to get better and find a new life that I can live around my disability. I feel very fortunate to be alive despite some rather disheartening experiences.

I'll tell you whatever you would like to know, within reason. But I wish you would explain why you seem so angry with me and such a need to prove that I am a criminal with ill intent. Would it make you feel better if I was?
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
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Have you ever tried detoxing your body of heavy metals?

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This is just one metal it can also be mercury, aluminum, iron....
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Try this and your memory and health will improve...

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Now you know why people voted for Obama.
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Exactly
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I couldn't wait until someone made this comment.

For the record, and this is the HONEST TO GOD's TRUTH, NOBODY in my building voted for Obama. We all hate him.
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Well yes, Obama WANTS to redirect aid FROM you TO that hypothetical mother of 10. That's what Obamacare does, take from old people and give to the young welfare mothers.
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I've only looked through the first page of responses, so this may have been suggested, but OP, you mentioned your nutrition is lacking - if you are on disability wouldn't you qualify for food stamps?

Also, on $700 per month, might it be possible for you to look into buying a house? I'm not sure how many options you would have in your area, but if you look at zillow.com and filter your search results to a maximum of $30,000 or so, you may be surprised at what you would find.

For extra money, you may look into Amazon Mechanical Turk. There are forums that offer a ton of advice on how to maximize your earnings (the more tasks you complete, the more you earn. No rules, aside from just doing good work).

Anyway, that really sucks that you have to adhere to all of these rules... I can see the purpose for requiring a certain level of upkeep, as others have mentioned, but these are over-the-top and mostly just about control.
Éireann  (OP)

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While I don't want to comment on your situation specifically, and I do empathize with you, here is a quick check for whether you would naturally keep your property up to managements standards (if not, maybe they have a point):

Go check your car.

Yes, I was taught this trick by a property manager who said that was ther test of whether a tenant would abuse the rental property. I have used it time and time again and it is an almost 100% predictor. The car obviously doesn't need to be new, just well maintained and unlittered.

So...if you want property managers to think that you are a neat freak that they shouldn't bother often, make sure that the personal property of yours that they can most easily observe is as neat and clean as a whistle.

Maybe this will help.

God Bless.
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I love my $1600 car. It's a 1999 Ford Taurus Wagon. I am a budget freak. I have my money calculated to the penny. I use an accounting system called The Envelope Method and it's really great. Each month, I divvy out my money and put X amount of dollars in a virtual envelope for tires, battery, oil change, insurance, medical co-pays and Rxs, as well as the "OMG!!!!" fund. That's the fund where the water pump goes out at the worse possible time. At the end of the year, any money that isn't used from that envelope is forwarded over to the OMG fund and I start over. So when my insurance is due, I can pay it in full. I get my car serviced every three months, and I take very good care of my things. OK, my things aren't many and none of them are new, but they are mine and bought with my own money that I earn from my little job. I love my life. I just don't think it's my responsibility to do the upkeep on this property. That is the responsibility of the property owners. If they want their lawns watered, they should do it. I hate grass. It sucks up water and here in Texas having a lawn is a waste of water and money.
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
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This lady has a husband in Holland, she can go there, if she loves him then what is stopping her?
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In the Netherlands you only are allowed to bring your spouse if you make at least 140% of minimum wage.

Even if you meet the income requirement, you need to have a contract (certainty of work) for at least a year.

I have worked for the Dutch government for 3 and a half years. But always on contracts for 3 to 6 months. Never the required year.

THAT is what has been stopping us for the past 5 years.

It is a crying shame to see people that "play the system" get whatever they want, while hardworking people get denied because in current economy most contracts are less than a year.

Even if you get a contract for a year, people get denied based on the fact that most contracts for a year have a trial period of 1 or more months.

The Dutch immigration service does not count the trial period as part of the "certainty of employment" which means people that have a contract for a year end up being denied and have to start the process all over again including the 1000 euro processing fee.

These are just a few of what is wrong with the Dutch immigration rules. And why I am currently looking for jobs in other EU countries in which a husband and wife ARE allowed to be together.

Since both the US and the Netherlands seem to favor illegal immigrants and criminals over law abiding citizens.
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I am sorry for your situation and it seems quite extreme, especially on the elderly. However, I do agree with the rules pertaining to keeping the property clean and maintained. Unfortunately a great percentage of people who qualify for subsidized housing are disrespectful and unlearned on cleanliness and home maintenance. Because of these types of people, housing units often fall into ruins and filth and lower the standard of healthy living for those who want to live in a clean environment. The rules must be harsh in order to force people to stay clean. (I have also known some people who are well off financially and are filthy beggars in their home) Cleanliness and self respect go beyond financial status. The owners of your property should definitely hire someone to water the grounds and keep the outside of the units clean. It is absurd to force people who qualify for subsidized housing to choose between eating and watering dirt. You wouldn't live there if you could afford that. The visiting pet rule is also absurd. I understand the $300 deposit, but it should be refunded as long as the tenant did not allow the pet to harm the premises while living there.
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Now you know why people voted for Obama.
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Exactly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46206313


I couldn't wait until someone made this comment.

For the record, and this is the HONEST TO GOD's TRUTH, NOBODY in my building voted for Obama. We all hate him.
 Quoting: Miggy


Well yes, Obama WANTS to redirect aid FROM you TO that hypothetical mother of 10. That's what Obamacare does, take from old people and give to the young welfare mothers.
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In 1997 Bill Clinton placed a 90 month per lifetime aid limit on your hypothetical 21 year old mother of 10. That includes dwindling food stamp payments as well. So you're 16 years behind reality.
Oh, and there's a work stipulation even for the mother of a newborn..which is pretty cruel and undermines the bonding process.

You have no idea of what is being taken from what resource fund anyway...and they're all drying up for the most vulnerable each year.
I don't believe any of the 99% is NOT being shaken down.

"Obamacare" doesn't even exist yet anyway. So this plan which the Feds back for 1 year is dumped on the states in 3 years. Both sides of the aisle turned this plan into an abortion in any case. There might not even BE an "Obamacare" even if we live that long.

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meh i been through it i just got off it

what i did is i found something i loved to do then turned that into a small business

youll get through it do your time and learn learn learn then apply...

next thing you know freedom

although i will say small towns depend on low income housing to generate more funds for the town and certain entities will lose a lot of money when the housing authority goes bust.....

dont let the chumps fool ya, that money that pays the rent bill is from corporate funding, not taxpayers

corporate funders lose, not taxpayers....

i was criticized the whole way, for how i did what i did, but i didnt give 2 fucks what others say about how i fucking survive

we all pay the piper the same fucking note...you get yours ill get mine...by any-means necessary, is what i told em...
Éireann  (OP)

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This lady has a husband in Holland, she can go there, if she loves him then what is stopping her?
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In the Netherlands you only are allowed to bring your spouse if you make at least 140% of minimum wage.

Even if you meet the income requirement, you need to have a contract (certainty of work) for at least a year.

I have worked for the Dutch government for 3 and a half years. But always on contracts for 3 to 6 months. Never the required year.

THAT is what has been stopping us for the past 5 years.

It is a crying shame to see people that "play the system" get whatever they want, while hardworking people get denied because in current economy most contracts are less than a year.

Even if you get a contract for a year, people get denied based on the fact that most contracts for a year have a trial period of 1 or more months.

The Dutch immigration service does not count the trial period as part of the "certainty of employment" which means people that have a contract for a year end up being denied and have to start the process all over again including the 1000 euro processing fee.

These are just a few of what is wrong with the Dutch immigration rules. And why I am currently looking for jobs in other EU countries in which a husband and wife ARE allowed to be together.

Since both the US and the Netherlands seem to favor illegal immigrants and criminals over law abiding citizens.
 Quoting: Aldabaran08

hugs It's ok, lieverd. I know who you are and how hard you've worked to get us together. I also respect your stance on following the law even though there were so many times when we were frustrated to the point of breaking it. Ik hou van jou <3 I'd wait for you forever :)

Next time around, let's try to remember to get degrees that will get us high paying jobs just in case we end up on different sides of the ocean again. chuckle
Eireann~

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Éireann  (OP)

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Now you know why people voted for Obama.
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Exactly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46206313


I couldn't wait until someone made this comment.

For the record, and this is the HONEST TO GOD's TRUTH, NOBODY in my building voted for Obama. We all hate him.
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Well yes, Obama WANTS to redirect aid FROM you TO that hypothetical mother of 10. That's what Obamacare does, take from old people and give to the young welfare mothers.
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I didn't vote for Obama either and no one I have ever talked to did. I still don't know how a man no one voted for became President, but someone had to have voted for the man.

Welfare is out of control. It is given to illegal immigrants and to people who absolutely will not work which I think is wrong. There are so many people who have worked long years and paid into the system and then gotten sick and become unable to work who get less because of all of the people using the system who have never worked. Yes, it's true. If you've ever worked you are penalized should you ever need assistance. I'm lucky to have a case worker who is honest with me when I ask questions. She told me that because I am white and I have worked all of my life, I get less. Reason? Because people like me are more apt to go back to work rather than live on such a meager income and I will not vote in favor of candidates who will use the welfare system to garner votes. That is something I will never vote for.

Social Security was a good idea, but, as with all things that are good, it has been corrupted by those who see it as a way to have control over the many. I'm so glad that my time for needing assistance is almost at an end. I have never felt so degraded and embarrassed and for simply needing a little short term help. I don't know what the solution is, but any country needs a measure in place to make sure that those who can not longer work or are born with disabilities that will not allow them to work, are able to get the care they need. I have always felt and obligation to put aside a portion of my paycheck so that the generations of working Americans before me won't suffer should sickness or tragedy befall them. I feel the same way about anyone who works and has children. Should that person become sick and unable to work, should he lose everything he's worked for simply because he's temporarily broken? Oh yes. You have to lose it all. You can't own more than $2000 in personal assets to get assistance. It's just screwed up. That man should be able to get the help he needs to get back on his feet and back to work without having to lose his dignity in the process. But I'm weird, I guess.
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Have you ever tried detoxing your body of heavy metals?

[link to news.yahoo.com]

This is just one metal it can also be mercury, aluminum, iron....
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Try this and your memory and health will improve...

[link to www.magneticclay.com]
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Heavy metals. Hrm. I know I've read something somewhere about this a long while back but I got sidetracked and forgot about it. It's on my calendar now so I remember to research it.

I'm trying the Coconut Oil along with my mom atm. I will look into the link you gave here, AC 4951.

I can't thank you all enough for all of the help and advice that has been offered in this thread. It will benefit anyone who has a similar issue and happens to read through this thread. Y'all have been just awesome and why I love GLP so much. The debate has been great, the sharing of information simply awesome, and being able to see this situation through the eyes of those who work in housing or public assistance has been great. This is what GLP is all about - sharing and learning from each other.
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Karma: Fat lazy pig who cries about having to follow the rules and keep her taxpayer funded home clean.

LOL!!!!

My home is always clean. I can't stand living in disorganized filth. I was raised by a very good mother who took home management seriously and almost like a science. There is nothing more satisfying than sitting down with a cup of coffee and a book in a clean, organized home. There is such a sense of pride that comes with taking good care of your things. I was taught this as a child and have carried it through into my adult years.

My complaint was about them going through my drawers. I pointed out the rules about cleaning to show how dictatorial their rules are. Who doesn't vacuum their blinds when they vacuum? I was simply pointing out that I don't feel it is necessary to have such things mandated and "inspected" when these are common sense things that any woman does when she keeps house.

I fell ill and needed help for a while. Up until 2003, I always worked. Between 2003 and 2005 are the only years I didn't work even part time. I was a very sick puppy. Therapy and medication has helped along with memory exercises that I do daily. I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but wow - it never ceases to amaze me the bizarre ways people interpret what is written. I think they read one or two sentences and then just post whatever their complaint in general is about the topic at hand without actually addressing the person's actual post. GLP has changed a lot since I came here. It's far less spiritual and there was this sense of adventure in solving mysteries of the unexplained or finding the dirt on an elite and exposing corruption. People seem to have lost that community spirit GLP once had. Maybe it was never really the largest part of GLP and I was just fortunate to find a group of like-minded posters who were interesting, curious, and open to discussing alternative points of view. I miss that.
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Karma: Fat lazy pig who cries about having to follow the rules and keep her taxpayer funded home clean.

LOL!!!!

My home is always clean. I can't stand living in disorganized filth. I was raised by a very good mother who took home management seriously and almost like a science. There is nothing more satisfying than sitting down with a cup of coffee and a book in a clean, organized home. There is such a sense of pride that comes with taking good care of your things. I was taught this as a child and have carried it through into my adult years.

My complaint was about them going through my drawers. I pointed out the rules about cleaning to show how dictatorial their rules are. Who doesn't vacuum their blinds when they vacuum? I was simply pointing out that I don't feel it is necessary to have such things mandated and "inspected" when these are common sense things that any woman does when she keeps house.

I fell ill and needed help for a while. Up until 2003, I always worked. Between 2003 and 2005 are the only years I didn't work even part time. I was a very sick puppy. Therapy and medication has helped along with memory exercises that I do daily. I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but wow - it never ceases to amaze me the bizarre ways people interpret what is written. I think they read one or two sentences and then just post whatever their complaint in general is about the topic at hand without actually addressing the person's actual post. GLP has changed a lot since I came here. It's far less spiritual and there was this sense of adventure in solving mysteries of the unexplained or finding the dirt on an elite and exposing corruption. People seem to have lost that community spirit GLP once had. Maybe it was never really the largest part of GLP and I was just fortunate to find a group of like-minded posters who were interesting, curious, and open to discussing alternative points of view. I miss that.
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LOL You never know what's gonna make people snap on here.

and yes ("There is nothing more satisfying than sitting down with a cup of coffee and a book in a clean, organized home.") I wholeheartedly agree.
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot
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Yet you can afford a GLP gold star.

stfu moocher
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Assume much?

Someone paid for it. It was an anonymous gift. No one has ever come forward so I could thank them. One day I just had a year's subscription and I don't know who gifted it.
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I got my first subscription as a gift, for a month. And the next time, it was by green karma.

people make so many assumptions.

Eireann, I am listening. Reminds me of life in Germany. Every detail regulated and no room for anything.

Gee I will add more later, but for now: hang in there.

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Tenants get together and agree to hire out window washing and lawn care to someone's able bodied grandson or nephew. Or just some unemployed person who is willing to take on the job.

Some kid could get in there and wash all the windows and do all of the lawncare without various people having to set up and do each task individually. Most of the effort here would actually be in the setting up of equipment. One person -- or a two or three man crew -- could just set up, do it all, get paid and get it over with for everybody.
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Do you really expect people who live in subsidized housing to pay their fair share ?





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