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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46287683 United States 09/04/2013 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46189676 Canada 09/04/2013 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | man, I'm glad I don't live there. Here in Canada I live in a Co-Op, my rent is $240 for a 3 bedroom townhouse. Disability is about $1400 per month, plus we get $1200 per month for having kids, plus $140 for heating per month. Quoting: freeasabee1 So total: $1400 disability $1200 Canada Child Tax Credit $140 Gas something payment plus $250 GST credit every 3 months not bad, also drug and dental plan. In the states you guys have a ME versus WE attitude, I never understood this but whatever. How come the rent at welfare hotels in Canada is 450.00 per month while you get to live in a co-op for $240.00? That does not make sense! |
freeasabee1
User ID: 41984260 Canada 09/04/2013 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | man, I'm glad I don't live there. Here in Canada I live in a Co-Op, my rent is $240 for a 3 bedroom townhouse. Disability is about $1400 per month, plus we get $1200 per month for having kids, plus $140 for heating per month. Quoting: freeasabee1 So total: $1400 disability $1200 Canada Child Tax Credit $140 Gas something payment plus $250 GST credit every 3 months not bad, also drug and dental plan. In the states you guys have a ME versus WE attitude, I never understood this but whatever. How come the rent at welfare hotels in Canada is 450.00 per month while you get to live in a co-op for $240.00? That does not make sense! not sure, its difficult to get in a co-op if you live in a major city, ie Toronto. But if you're willing to move, which is a good idea if you're on a fixed income, then it's easy. I live in a small city about 100km from Toronto, and my co-op still has a few spots. Also note, when I go to school, the rent drops to about 35 bucks a month. |
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WoodBlockPrintery
User ID: 44482383 United States 09/04/2013 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As many of you know, I'm mentally disabled. Quoting: Éireann *pauses for laughter* Besides having PTSD, I am losing my memory at a rather alarming rate. I have good days and bad days. If you ever follow my writing/posts, you can pretty much tell which days were good and which days were bad. Anyway, because I'm only 47 I am on disability but I don't qualify for Social Security for another 20 years. No worries. I am working at building my own business doing research. Not an easy task with a memory problem, but one has to do what one has to do. Because my disability is only $699 a month, I need to live in a rent assisted housing facility. Here in Texas the waiting list for a Section 8 housing voucher is years long so I opted to rent in a housing program that is offered by the community where I live. It is overseen by HUD, but it is privately owned property which is reimbursed for the remainder of the rent due through a state HUD grant program. Now because it is privately owned, they can make their own rules. Not a problem, right? Erm. Maybe. The Housing Authority is run by Board of investors. This is a very small town with about zip for crime and everyone practically knows each other by name. This board makes some really interesting rules. I'm just going to name a few to see what you all think. Now I'd like to point out that I am the youngest person in this complex which is made up of 16 one bedroom units. The rest of the people who live here are all retired elderly and are all widowed with grown children. Once a month we have a housing inspection. These inspections get weirder and weirder as the months go by. While I can understand the reasoning behind some of the - rules - I can't help but find many of them personally offensive and horrendously disrespectful to the elderly living here. 1. They check my dresser drawers, closets, cabinets and other furniture drawers for hidden drugs or drug paraphernalia. 2. They require my apartment to be as clean as a hospital. I've been in some of the board member's houses and I can tell you that they do not live up to their own standards. 3. Even though we are all on a limited income, we are required to water the lawns around our apartments to keep bugs out. Anyone care to wonder a guess at how much my water bill runs? Some of these elderly live on far less since they were housewives and mothers and did not work outside of the home. 4. There can not be any dust, streaks, or dirt on the windows. All window blinds must be free of dust or dirt and not be damaged in any way. We pay to have the blinds put in, btw. 5. If we have a pet, we are required to pay a 300 dollar non-refundable deposit. Yes...a deposit which is non-refundable. It should be called a fee if it isn't refundable, but oh well. Here are some of the other rules which really chap my ass. 1. Any family member who brings over a resident's personal pet, must pay a 300 dollar non-refundable deposit each time the animal visits and show proof of all shots. If the animal is going to live with the resident, the deposit need only be paid once. Failure to comply will result in eviction of the resident. Seriously. 2. All dogs must be kept on a short leash. Any one using a leash over three feet will be fined and the animal will be barred from the property. 3. All outside windows must be washed once a month. The siding and doors must be free of dust and dirt. Now wait a fucking minute. How is 89 year old granny suppose to fucking clean the god damned siding and wash windows that go 8 ft off the ground? 4. All areas outside of the apartment, including personal gardening areas, must be free of weeds. Failure to comply will result in a $50 fine for each day of noncompliance. And it goes on and on. HUD doesn't have any such rules. I've spoken with the State Attorney's office and they said that because it is private property that the owners can make any rules that do not violate my Constitutional rights. Erm... what about the monthly searches? She said that is a grey area. A grey area? WTF? What about the watering? 120 a month in a Texas summer? I have to go for days without AC and my diet is far from nutritional just to comply with all of the stupid rules. I haven't been out to eat, gone out for a cup of coffee, or bought so much as a fucking candle for ambiance in eons. Can't afford it. No phone, TV or extras. This feels more like a punishment than a help. We're treated like subhuman criminals who live in prison. Our recourse? We can leave. So for the folks who think that those of us who need public assistance to get by live footloose and fancy free - we most certainly do not. It's humiliating, degrading and totalitarian. It's why we call this complex "Nazi Square". And the rules keep coming. Sometimes two and three new ones a month. It's insane. Thanks. Just needed to vent. You have many responses and I am wondering what conclusion you have drawn from all of the responses you have to your posting; -perhaps a brief statement of how you can get out from your awful landlord situation and possibly research another subsidized housing location. take care & don't let it get you down-you will survive this |
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Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm gonna pin this I hope you don't mind. You are a wonderful person. Your message needs to be heard. Quoting: calx I'm ok, calx. I can do the work. It seems to me that it is the responsibility of the property owners to take care of watering and what not. This is the first time I've ever had a mandate to wash my outside windows and siding. Where do they think the money to pay for the water comes from? Thin air? Anyway. I really just wanted folks to see some of the off the wall and petty rules. I mean...some of them are just out there. All of these people are over 60 except me and I'm kind of embarrassed for them at how trivial and petty the board is being when none of these things are a problem here. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have many responses and I am wondering what conclusion you have drawn from all of the responses you have to your posting; -perhaps a brief statement of how you can get out from your awful landlord situation and possibly research another subsidized housing location. Quoting: WoodBlockPrintery take care & don't let it get you down-you will survive this A couple of great points were brought up. First - were all (as many as are able) going to show up at this month's board meeting and have a discussion. Second - I'm going to go to Miss Bebe's Church and see if there is a young person there who would be willing to wash the windows of the old folks. I can do my own. We would need to pay him, so I need to discuss what that amount would be with everyone else at our next meeting. Third - HUD will be here to inspect the Housing Authority on October 1st. If this is all we are left with, then I'll do the complaining so no one else needs fear being evicted for speaking out to the "purse strings". Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Oh really? They still have to be inspected by HUD. This is all sooooo confusing. But I never put in an application to HUD. Just the application here where I live. I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. Last Edited by Eireann on 09/04/2013 08:26 AM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Face Palmer
User ID: 1149868 Germany 09/04/2013 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. Quoting: Éireann You come to GLP without coffee? You tough girl. "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46287683 United States 09/04/2013 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Oh really? They still have to be inspected by HUD. This is all sooooo confusing. But I never put in an application to HUD. Just the application here where I live. I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. Where are you in Texas and I can help you? I know people don't generally like to say where they are from, but I am in the Abilene area and I worked for Housing. I can help you identify what type of tenancy you are in. |
IntoTheLight
User ID: 46243711 United Kingdom 09/04/2013 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Oh really? They still have to be inspected by HUD. This is all sooooo confusing. But I never put in an application to HUD. Just the application here where I live. I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. While your 'Googling', think about the hungry and the dispossessed. While you sip your coffee,think of the people living on the street. I suspect you wont,just like you wont answer the posts that criticize you. You have to worry about 'important' things like watering your lawn and washing the occasional window. It's all about perspective,and you have none. 6 months UK then 6 months USA. I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46287683 United States 09/04/2013 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is some basic info on tax credit properties. [link to apartments.about.com] These properties are governed by the IRS contracts the owners have made. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17372073 United States 09/04/2013 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i know a old lady who lives in 55+ area. everyone buys their modular homes but they have very strict rules for keeping up the surroundings and everyone pays a fee too. she has told me how their incomes drop and cost of living goes up and she herself after being a business women can barely afford to live and as she has aged needs more help to keep up not just the inside but all the demands on the outside.. it a tough row to hoe if you get old or sick and specially both without family or financial means.my week is long heavy demands little sleep my elderly parents are right down the street. they are getting too old to live in there but my father refuses to move and i respect that. i do everything i can to help them and their fiances are good but they don't trust many people because they are so vulnerable.so i do hiring too,my parents cleaning lady is getting too old to really clean but they won't let her go because she needs the income. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46290543 United States 09/04/2013 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Golly. That's egregious to make people that are old wash windows eight feet off the ground, and pay $120 a month for water. The other rules are do-able, and keep the place free of dangerous animals, and clean. Just glad I don't have rules like that (I'd never be able to deal) - God bless you, and your neighbors! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46290543 United States 09/04/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blah. I don't want more stuff, I just want to be left alone. I'm a grown woman. I don't need a set of rules to live by. I used to be someone once. Just because I'm broken now they seem to think that they can do with me as they please. EVERYONE is someone, and not JUST someone, but God's creation. You are divine, my friend, and please remember that always! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46290543 United States 09/04/2013 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And by the way, I call the place I'm living the "Nuthouse". I've seriously considered submitting an idea for reality TV that centers around the insanity of this place. Quoting: Miggy Please do, Miggy! Right now we have to deal with the drivel of "Duck Dynasty" and "Shelby" or whatever. Not that I watch these horrible shows, but the commercials aren't even stomach-able. Plus, you are a good writer (for intros, voice-over copy, etc.)! |
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Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. Quoting: Éireann You come to GLP without coffee? You tough girl. I'm exhausted. I slept, but I don't feel rested. I'm just kind of in a fog today. But yeah... Coooooffffeeee! Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | many people are far worse off than you are with more REAL disability than ptsd or memory loss , yet they still acheive in every day life..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45489374 you have a roof over your head ,provided by the tax payer and still complain because you have to follow rules..... Wow. Your reading comprehension skills aren't all that good. I'm not complaining about following rules. Read it again. Last Edited by Eireann on 09/04/2013 09:13 AM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Ok. I went to Wikipedia and found an overview of Tax Credit Housing and it seems to fit the bill, AC 7683. Because they receive grants from HUD, that is why we have a HUD inspection. We aren't a HUD facility, we're an investment :) Very interesting. I don't mind rules, I just mind rules that require 89 year old people to attempt feats of nimbleness that would make me believe in miracles. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
What?? User ID: 13175518 China 09/04/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Oh really? They still have to be inspected by HUD. This is all sooooo confusing. But I never put in an application to HUD. Just the application here where I live. I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. While your 'Googling', think about the hungry and the dispossessed. While you sip your coffee,think of the people living on the street. I suspect you wont,just like you wont answer the posts that criticize you. You have to worry about 'important' things like watering your lawn and washing the occasional window. It's all about perspective,and you have none. |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you worked for 30 years and your disability is only $699 a month, you must have worked minimum wage jobs? Sure you ain't on SSI? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31977378 Yep. I'm sure. You have to add in the 105 for Medicare premium and take into account my age. I was 4 quarters shy of being fully vested. Also, I worked for the work. I couldn't have children and I didn't really care about owning a house or anything like that. The research was my goal. So I didn't really pay attention to the salary. For example... 21k a year for a job I could have gotten 40k for elsewhere but I wouldn't have had the opportunity to be involved in researching the material I was interested in. Last Edited by Eireann on 09/04/2013 09:24 AM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
WoodBlockPrintery
User ID: 44482383 United States 09/04/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Oh really? They still have to be inspected by HUD. This is all sooooo confusing. But I never put in an application to HUD. Just the application here where I live. I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. While your 'Googling', think about the hungry and the dispossessed. While you sip your coffee,think of the people living on the street. I suspect you wont,just like you wont answer the posts that criticize you. You have to worry about 'important' things like watering your lawn and washing the occasional window. It's all about perspective,and you have none. well said by you i'm in complete agreement ty |
What? User ID: 13175518 China 09/04/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This so does not make semse. Ofcourse there are worse people off and we can always be grateful for what we do have. But because someone is suffering more does it mean that you are not suffering? Is there a gradation in pain? So we all have to suffer in silence because some peole are worse off? So if you are sick and suffering do not complain but be happy because someone else may be dying?? Very strange... uote:What?? 13175518:MV8yMzQyMzI0XzQwMDE0MjQxXzU1Q0IxMzdD] I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Oh really? They still have to be inspected by HUD. This is all sooooo confusing. But I never put in an application to HUD. Just the application here where I live. I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. While your 'Googling', think about the hungry and the dispossessed. While you sip your coffee,think of the people living on the street. I suspect you wont,just like you wont answer the posts that criticize you. You have to worry about 'important' things like watering your lawn and washing the occasional window. It's all about perspective,and you have none. |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think OP is actually in a tax credit property, which has no relation to HUD HOUSING. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46287683 If she were on Hud, she would have had to put in an application with HUD to get on the waiting list, then went to several meetings where she signed on the dotted line on many pages where counselors ask whether she understands what the rules are. HUD has 3 basic programs and you have to voluntarily sign up for them. Tax credit housing is not HUD. Oh really? They still have to be inspected by HUD. This is all sooooo confusing. But I never put in an application to HUD. Just the application here where I live. I need coffee first. Then I'll Google Tax Credit Housing. I don't even know what that means. While your 'Googling', think about the hungry and the dispossessed. While you sip your coffee,think of the people living on the street. I suspect you wont,just like you wont answer the posts that criticize you. You have to worry about 'important' things like watering your lawn and washing the occasional window. It's all about perspective,and you have none. Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning? You think I'm oblivious to the world around me? Jesus Christ, Light. If you need to bitch, fine, but what the hell??? Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31977378 United States 09/04/2013 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you worked for 30 years and your disability is only $699 a month, you must have worked minimum wage jobs? Sure you ain't on SSI? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31977378 Yep. I'm sure. You have to add in the 105 for Medicare premium and take into account my age. I was 4 quarters shy of being fully vested. Also, I worked for the work. I couldn't have children and I didn't really care about owning a house or anything like that. The research was my goal. So I didn't really pay attention to the salary. For example... 21k a year for a job I could have gotten 40k for elsewhere but I wouldn't have had the opportunity to be involved in researching the material I was interested in. Your income is so low you need to check for medicare 'special help' in your state. Some one with your income can find all kinds of programs, if you look. I even get 10% property tax reduction. |
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Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/04/2013 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you worked for 30 years and your disability is only $699 a month, you must have worked minimum wage jobs? Sure you ain't on SSI? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31977378 Yep. I'm sure. You have to add in the 105 for Medicare premium and take into account my age. I was 4 quarters shy of being fully vested. Also, I worked for the work. I couldn't have children and I didn't really care about owning a house or anything like that. The research was my goal. So I didn't really pay attention to the salary. For example... 21k a year for a job I could have gotten 40k for elsewhere but I wouldn't have had the opportunity to be involved in researching the material I was interested in. Your income is so low you need to check for medicare 'special help' in your state. Some one with your income can find all kinds of programs, if you look. I even get 10% property tax reduction. Oh sure. So I can have more people bitch at me about what a mooch I am? No thanks. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |