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I'mpossible
User ID: 20185627 United States 08/26/2013 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is quite empowering knowing you can weather several weeks without electricity, water and modern amenities. Having a modestly stocked pantry & larder does make the difference between sitting at the dinner table or standing in the Red Cross line. Right now because of a cross country relocation, my pantry is sparsely populated. I'm stocking up on things I know my family likes and eats. A few extra of this. A few extra of that. Each time I go marketing. Plus dehydrating fruits & vegetables when things are on sale. We'll have enough in a pinch and be happy to have that. Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed. ******* All Human Beings are Human. Not all Humans are Human Beings. ******* |
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also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 08/26/2013 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The oils in brown rice breaks down rather quickly, causing the rice to go rancid.I had this happen to my brown rice.You can not eat it once its rancid no matter what you do to it.For long term storage only get white rice." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281564 You can store brown rice for many years, by simply using a foodsaver vacuum sealer, and oxygen absorbers. Even coffee will stay fresh for years, just as long as it is vacuum sealed. Mylar and oxygen absorbers for the win. Also, for those who do have kids and they drink the juice pouches like Capri Sun. Save those little Mylar bags they are great for storing salt, pepper, chili, small sewing kits, fire starting supplies, meds, etc. Wash with warm soapy water that has a little plain bleach in it. Rinse well and let dry completely. Cut off the top to just below where the straw fits. There is plastic there that you are getting rid of. To seal, use a hair straightener. Viola! These are great for BOB's Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
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also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 08/26/2013 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. Here to help. Honestly if it got that bad I would have an escape plan to a relatively remote or safe area and start over. Too many bad people around to stick to civilization. Bring things to start a fire and have a relatively close water source and you should be good to go if you can hunt or gather food. That's if we're brought back to the Stone Age though. Not quite sure how the end of world times would be but that's what I would do. Have a backpack with a few essentials and start moving. Better survival if you move every now and then rather to stick it out in 1 spot Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37974159 Don't count on hunting and gathering, not at first. Millions of people will head to the boonies and strip the land of anything edible very quickly. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41713542 United States 08/26/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Special Note: Pellegra Pelegra was common in the South where beans and cornbread were staples. What happens is the niacin is not bioavailable by eating this alone. The cornmeal needs to be treated by a little wood ash otherwise you're going to develop a terrible skin condition: [link to en.wikipedia.org] The most common way was to get lime from heated broken shells and add that to the corn. Likewise you could heat up crushed pulverized limestone. Naturally the latter will end up with grit. See the Last Minute Tips topic for ways for the nixtamalization of cornmeal. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9831451 United States 08/27/2013 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, are you also planning an escape plan as well as the hunker down plan you have in progress? Quoting: M*walk I want to, but i'm stuck on the gulf coast of Florida, so my only chance of escape is taking a main route straight up through the state - which I know will be crowded. My main plan was have everything stocked & loaded in my vehicle (surprisingly its all very lightweight & compact, no more than 10 pounds minus water), so I can jump in & go if I need to evacuate immediately. Not the best plan, but I also don't want to be stuck on a peninsula. I've been checking out various back roads on the map that'll take me away from any major arteries - time consuming yes, but if I can make it to "solid" land I pray to have a chance. At least make some kind of trade with the small amount of medical supplies, or alcohol as mentioned. But as another poster mentioned, its hard to plan when you're not sure exactly what you'll be facing. Everything you buy===use cash. If they start looking for hoarders, your credit records will bring them right to your door. Cash. Cash. Cash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45808287 Absolutely. The second my meager little excuse of a paycheck comes in, it's always pulled directly out of the bank. I spread my purchases around to several local and out of area stores, so I don't get questioning looks. Last thing I'd want to deal with is some random straggler knocking on the door, asking to borrow a couple gallons of water they know I posess "since you bought so much at our store" or something eeky like that. OP, check this out if you live in florida. [link to www.angelfire.com] scroll down to THE PROPHETIC WITNESSES FOR ASTEROID OR COMET IMPACTS there are about 25 separate people, children, etc that have been shown how the peninsula gets washed clean. you don't need to be religious to connect these dots. |
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I'mpossible
User ID: 20185627 United States 08/27/2013 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. Here to help. Honestly if it got that bad I would have an escape plan to a relatively remote or safe area and start over. Too many bad people around to stick to civilization. Bring things to start a fire and have a relatively close water source and you should be good to go if you can hunt or gather food. That's if we're brought back to the Stone Age though. Not quite sure how the end of world times would be but that's what I would do. Have a backpack with a few essentials and start moving. Better survival if you move every now and then rather to stick it out in 1 spot Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37974159 Don't count on hunting and gathering, not at first. Millions of people will head to the boonies and strip the land of anything edible very quickly. White Angel, this is very true. Sadly many people will eat gardens down to the ground not realising seeds need to be put by for the next growing season. And meat animals will be over hunted not realising stock needs to be able to breed. AC159 you have some excellent points. And I agree, don't feel humanity will be brought back to Stone Age existence. Maybe late 1700s early 1800s...still a bit challenging. I imagine people reforming Communities and reconnecting with their own humanity. I can dream, can't I? =}. Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed. ******* All Human Beings are Human. Not all Humans are Human Beings. ******* |
R.P. McMurphy
User ID: 45419220 United States 08/27/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, that is quite the list. How about some sutures in case of an accident. Always good to be able to sew yourself up. Quoting: katballoo Believe it or not, you can use super glue for this. Yes you can! But for superficial wounds. And thing too deep and you want to suture it. I've got a box of the TI-CRON 30" with 1/2 taper hooks for something that's beyond Superglue, and a box of the Polysorb for beneath the skin. (they dissolve over time) The best advise I can give, I believe, is there are about a million military field manuals and books that can be downloaded off the internet. Find what you're looking for, download them AND PRINT THEM OUT!!! [link to www.survivalebooks.com] I've actually assembled a nice little library of a couple dozen useful manuals in 3-ring binders. Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 08/27/2013 12:15 AM "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7249719 United States 08/27/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100 Items to Disappear First 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.) 15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric) 16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur. 17. Survival Guide Book. 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 22. Vitamins 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many). 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast & salt 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 53. Duct Tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags 58. Garden tools & supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 100. Goats/chickens From a Sarajevo War Survivor: Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks. 1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources. 2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden. 3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's. 4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.) 5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk. 6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands. 7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else. 8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches |
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SilverPatriot
User ID: 39491380 United States 08/27/2013 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. I'm pretty handy at looking things up, but feel free to post if others wish to search! :) What facts can you go on for prepping for the end of the world? None, why waste the money and time. Time is more valuable than all those canned foods and bottled water and kits for this and that. Why waste your time? Why not make the most of your time? Yes peepers in the past were prepping for the coming droughts or storms or things of that nature....they knew what to prep for. You don't know what will happen if "doomsday" were upon you. I just think its a waste but that's me, if it comes ill let my instincts guide me. I'm not stupid, I just don't waste valuable time and resources preparing for something that nobody can know anything about or exactly what to do Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37974159 Well, some of us have tiny humans called children that we have to look after. A YOLO attitude will not help my children when TSHTF. The Lord entrusted these children to me, I must be prepared to protect them at all times, whether it's a blizzard that knocks out power, a massive hurricane, martial law or a comet. If you have children, especially little ones like I do, you have to prepare. Otherwise you're kind of a shitty parent. ^^THIS^^ And even if you don't have children, you may meet someone down the road who is in dire straits, so having just a little extra can't hurt anything. After all, we're all in this together. Herbs to keep on hand Many Research Sources Curcumin and Turmeric [link to www.turmeric-curcumin.com] Research on Curcumin and Arthritic Conditions [link to www.selfgrowth.com] Curcuminoids [link to www.curcuminoids.com] Capability of Curry Component to Treat Disease Merits U.S. Patent [link to www.healthcanal.com] Turmeric Curcumin or Kurkuma-How it benefits your dog [link to www.k911.biz] Cilantro Oral Chelation of Heavy Metal Mercury, Lead, and Aluminum [link to www.kitchendoctor.com] Cilantro Chelation - That Can Save Your Life [link to www.newmediaexplorer.org] Dumbing-Down Society Part 3: How to Reverse its Effects [link to vigilantcitizen.com] The Health Benefits of Cilantro [link to www.globalhealingcenter.com] Olive Leaf Virus, bacterial, fungal infections and radiation chelation Certified Organic Olive Leaf - Tea, Capsules, Extract [link to www.olivus.com] Olive Leaf References [link to www.olivus.com] Olive tree (Olea europaea) leaves: potential beneficial effects on human health. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Radioprotective effects in vivo of phenolics extracted from Olea europaea L. leaves against X-ray-induced chromosomal damage: comparative study versus several flavonoids and sulfur-containing compounds. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Sloan-Kettering - Olive Leaf [link to www.mskcc.org] Iodine Thyroid Disease, Cancer, Heart Disease, Multiple Sclerosis, Diabetes, Aids, Lupus, Lyme Disease, Sjogren's Syndrome Iodine [link to iodine4health.com] Iodine [link to www.health-science-spirit.com] Oregano Antiseptic against yeast and bacteria Destroying organisms that contribute to skin infections Digestive problems Strengthening the immune system Increasing joint and muscle flexibility Improving respiratory health Oil of Oregano Health Benefits [link to www.homeremediesweb.com] Oil of Oregano [link to www.digitalnaturopath.com] Spirulina Too many benefits to list. Radiation Protective Effect and Immune System Improvement [link to spirulinasource.com] 5 Grams Daily of This Reversed Severe Radiation Poisoning in Chernobyl Children [link to articles.mercola.com] Chlorophyll A Few Words on Radiation [link to www.energyessentials.com] Stinging Nettle Medicinal Qualities of Stinging Nettle [link to www.herballegacy.com] Stinging nettle [link to www.ageless.co.za] Stinging nettle root, stinging nettle benefits, stinging nettle side effects [link to www.zhion.com] How to pick Stinging Nettles without gloves...featuring "Nettles: The Motion Picture" [link to www.learningherbs.com] Diabetes Gymnema Sylvestre Gymnema Sylvestre for Diabetes [link to www.intelegen.com] All about Gymnema [link to www.gymnema.net] Bitter Melon A Ton Of Bitter Melon Produces Sweet Results For Diabetes [link to www.sciencedaily.com] Cinnamon Is Cinnamon Safe for Diabetes [link to www.diabetes-guide.org] Chia Seeds Add Chia Seeds to your Diabetic Diet [link to 1200caloriediabeticdiet.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 08/27/2013 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cost Co has on line storage foods, cheap by the meal, in cans that can last 7 to 20 years, buy a few each month, keep in cool dry place. Best buy is a big cast iron pot w a tripod for cooking over open fires, and a big fry pan, can cook or boil anything... Best to buy whole uncooked beans of every kind and white rice, keeps long time! Must have tarps and rope to cover everything. Axe,hatchet, good knives. Great thread, thanks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14703874 United States 08/27/2013 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A fpfew dozen small solar panels for small item charging. Cheap at Harbor tool and freight. There are some really cheap under thirty bucks e readers that use sd cards and can display text, PDF, mp3, video, and pics. I put all kinds of survival files, gardening files, books and just about every cool tip, short cuts, hack other products into other things and so on. Great illustrations, videos pics ect.. I put them onto several sd cards, cloned over and over. If one shits there are still many. And, I can barter these too. So I got many of these readers, and sd cards, and some recharge long distant two way radios. Recharge batteries. I also got a dozen cheap laptops for 100 bucks, to maintain files ect. I made faraday cans and divided these items evenly into all of them. along with a few other electronic doo hickeys and different types of electronic testing equipment and soldering stations. The cans are sealed and have been hidden in different areas away from each other. I'm very skilled and mechanical for a dude who made a living playing guitar, So I have those things to help in a post shtf world ! . |
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AKObserver
User ID: 2014375 United States 08/27/2013 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prepping so that you can postpone your existence in a post-apocalyptic world aka hell on earth? No matter what this ends the same, just read the Bible, it's all there. If your not right with God, then your prepping in vain. Only Jesus saves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45684487 We are told over and over in the Bible to be prepared both physically as well as spiritually. Genesis 6:21(KJV) And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them. Genesis 41:1-32 Proverbs 6:6 –11 1 Timothy 5:8(KJV) But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. Proverbs 27:12(KJV) A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished. Found this BUSHCRAFT AND SURVIVAL SKILLS BUSHCRAFT, SURVIVAL SKILLS AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS Survival is More Than Canned Food and Matches... [link to isurvivalskills.blogspot.com] luv ya girl! You too! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1839550 United States 08/27/2013 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There should be two plans: 1) Stay where you are; and 2) Bug out. For both plans your utmost primary needs are: A) Water B) Water Purification Equipment C) A gun D) Dependable people to form a community of defense The rest of the needs are second tier to the first tier. What I'm saying is that there isn't nearly enough emphasis on water and the fact that you can't defend yourself by yourself. In a tier by itself, is cyanide, if it comes to that. |
AKObserver
User ID: 2014375 United States 08/27/2013 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a good site: [link to givemetheinfo.com] You want to read this site and then print it out. In my searches I found the plan below. Simple, relatively inexpensive. You can buy a year worth of food for less than $200 Quoting: whiteangel The whole plan is as simple as; 200 lbs of pinto beans (per person) 300 lbs of yellow whole kernel corn (per person) 35 lbs of liquid shortening (per person). And that’s it. This will supply almost 2000 calories per day for 365 days. You may notice there’s no freeze dried caviar on the list. [Image: icon_smile.gif] But if you don’t die of epicurean boredom you will survive until the end of the year. And it’s a very good diet too. Both traditionally and scientifically. The Native Americans grew beans, corn and squash, They called them The Three Sisters. They thrived on the diet. The squash was a good addition. Scientifically, a beans and corn diet give a complete array of all the amino acids your body needs to live. They call it a complete protein. You can get a little more information here on complete proteins. [link to www.fitsugar.com] *********************** Beans, no matter how well you stored them, get hard as a rock over time. Yup, they are still good, but hard. A trick to help with this is adding 2 teaspoons of baking soda. I haven't tried it, but it is suppose to help soften the beans and make cooking time less. I store pinto beans as I grew up in the Southwest and to me it is the only REAL bean there is. They have one of the highest protein contents. There are two more but I don't remember which, you will need to research the kinds of beans you like and prep those. You can't cook those beans over a stove all day, so what do you do? You soak them overnight in water, in the morning (currently I dump this water as it helps to remove the reason beans give GAS - after a SHTF you won't be doing this), you heat the beans to a boil, then as you are conserving on fires, you remove from the fire and put in a warmer with a tight lid. This can be done by wrapping the put in a blanket and putting into a bail of hay. The idea is the beans keep cooking all day and by night time they are ready for supper. I think the above link has more info on this. Lard and solid shortening lasts longer than liquid oils, so I don't agree with the above on this. I prep veggie shortening like Crisco. Their site states it lasts 2 years - I know it is fine for 5 and that is opened. Okay, I don't always cook so things sit around, lol. Here is a link to their site: [link to www.crisco.com] Lard lasts a long time. There isn't an exp. date on the containers for a reason. Here is an interesting link: [link to digitaljournal.com] Any idea where to get non-gmo corn? Also, in a pinch, could you crush the beans into a flour? Have not had time to check out your links yet, but thanks for all your help!!! Home grown or health food stores is about all I know. Sad isn't it! With as contaminated as our food supply is and in a SHTF, not sure it will matter anymore, if you know what I mean. Make sure you have Braggs apple cider vinegar, raw honey and cinnamon on hand to help your body detox. Best place for non-gmo seeds and I've done years of research order the catalog [link to jlhudsonseeds.net] 14 varieties eating, field, popcorn Cheap crisco makes great candles that last forever all you need is string great website too. [link to www.theresilientfamily.com] Last Edited by AKObserver on 08/27/2013 01:37 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28236065 United States 08/27/2013 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would you ever stay at a house in a shtf scenario? Pack light, get to a place unpopulated. Go from there, have enough supplies to get you there. Buy wild edible books, learn how to trap and hunt. Thats your best chance at survival. Cities will become places of selfish killing if people are starving... and it would not get better in simply a week. Your house will become a trap. Peace and love to all. |
AKObserver
User ID: 2014375 United States 08/27/2013 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But by all means prep if it makes you feel better or feel more prepared just incase. Was just giving my .02. Didn't mean to stir up a shit pot. People are mean on here....already being called a yard and from a bad gene pool. Thanks for welcoming me to your wonderful friendly forum Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37974159 Awww. Mine wasn't meant to be mean. My laugh was at my own stupid thing about botulism. Everyone has an opinion and a right to express it. Sometimes it isn't very friendly here. Hope you'll hang around though, and meet the friendly ones. They're here too. They just lay low. 8) Welcome. Yes, Welcome! There are a lot of friendly folks here too. Just ignore the haters and the shills. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40396920 United States 08/27/2013 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm on a tight budget also and can get things here and there. When I buy food...I try to buy high caloric food,canned, eat it cold...no cooking. Smells draw attention. Really trying to stock up on feminin hygiene stuff. Powdered milk...it's pricey. Water,water,water...try to get some at every shopping excursion. You sound like you're on your way, though. Good start...better than no start. Now you can build on it a little at a time. Cheap vitamins. I've been wandering about those canisters of protein supplements that body builders use to gain weight. Something you just add water to. Don't care about flavor as much as I do the fuel. Oh yeah...lamp and lamp oil maybe. Boy I'm gonna stop now....I'm jumping all over the place and got my prepping juices flowing. About to go to bed to stare at the ceiling, running scenarios. Sorry for the babbling. Quoting: aylarue when this gos down im coming to take all your shit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9964671 United States 08/27/2013 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never considered myself a prepper, but with all the potential doom happening in the world, I'm trying to start. At least get something useful put together. I know its kinda late in the game to start a collective project like this, but I'm on a small budget, so looking to see what type of items would be the utmost essential. I literally bought all of the below tonight, and plan to make another trip tomorrow to get other items, just not sure what else. Only managed to spend $98 on the supplies and $60 on the food which didn't seem too bad. Quoting: Halo2Alexis™ I know I'll still need a bottle of bleach, antiseptic & burn ointment, and some protein bars....but I'm just thinking off the top of my head here. What items should I add to what I already have? Current supplies Tools & Medical Large toolbox, which contains the following: 20'x50' plastic sheeting (for sealing doors & windows) Large roll of Duct Tape 4 bottles of water purification tablets 50' black nylon paracord 3 boxes sterile gauze pads 2 boxes Bandaids 2 boxes Alcohol pads 3 ace bandage wraps Bottle of rubbing alcohol Bottle of hydrogen peroxide 1 large pack of fine texture steel wool (for starting fires) 4 boxes waterproof matches Large magnesium fire starter Handheld pocket saw (the metal rope kind) LED flashlight & batteries 6 large green glow sticks 2 emergency blankets 2 boxes of large instant heating pads 2 packs sterile vinyl medical gloves 2 packs of athletic tape 1 bottle ibuprofen 1 bottle acetaminophen 2 large bottle aspirin 1 bottle saline eye drops 1 jar of Icy Hot (not sure why I grabbed this) 1 jar of vasoline Cotton balls & q-tips Manual can opener Spoons, forks, knives Plastic sandwich bags 6 little travel-sized Kleenex Hammer, screwdrivers & Allen keys First Aid kit in my car, with road flares Spare tire, jack & jumper cables Food: 15 gallons of distilled water 3 large boxes mashed potato flakes 20 large cans of various soup (beef, veggie, chicken, etc.) 2 large bags of plain white rice 20 cans of vegetables & fruit 3 packaged boxes of Top Ramen (it was on sale) Clothing 5 complete change of clothes Sturdy tennis shoes & extra socks Hairbrush, toothbrush & general toiletries (still need to find a dry shampoo) Good on you brother. I wish we could easily find others in our local area with like minds. Sad state of affairs in today's society. No one gives half a shit about anyone but themselves and mabe their family. Anyway good job and keep it up. Dont forget the stainless steel and lead... |
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User ID: 2014375 United States 08/27/2013 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pandemic Preps - Need to Know Information This thread has a lot of good info too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9964671 United States 08/27/2013 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm on a tight budget also and can get things here and there. When I buy food...I try to buy high caloric food,canned, eat it cold...no cooking. Smells draw attention. Really trying to stock up on feminin hygiene stuff. Powdered milk...it's pricey. Water,water,water...try to get some at every shopping excursion. You sound like you're on your way, though. Good start...better than no start. Now you can build on it a little at a time. Cheap vitamins. I've been wandering about those canisters of protein supplements that body builders use to gain weight. Something you just add water to. Don't care about flavor as much as I do the fuel. Oh yeah...lamp and lamp oil maybe. Boy I'm gonna stop now....I'm jumping all over the place and got my prepping juices flowing. About to go to bed to stare at the ceiling, running scenarios. Sorry for the babbling. Quoting: aylarue when this gos down im coming to take all your shit And you will be whacked for sure if you try that post SHTF. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45825043 Canada 08/27/2013 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never considered myself a prepper, but with all the potential doom happening in the world, I'm trying to start. At least get something useful put together. I know its kinda late in the game to start a collective project like this, but I'm on a small budget, so looking to see what type of items would be the utmost essential. I literally bought all of the below tonight, and plan to make another trip tomorrow to get other items, just not sure what else. Only managed to spend $98 on the supplies and $60 on the food which didn't seem too bad. Quoting: Halo2Alexis™ I know I'll still need a bottle of bleach, antiseptic & burn ointment, and some protein bars....but I'm just thinking off the top of my head here. What items should I add to what I already have? Current supplies Tools & Medical Large toolbox, which contains the following: 20'x50' plastic sheeting (for sealing doors & windows) Large roll of Duct Tape 4 bottles of water purification tablets 50' black nylon paracord 3 boxes sterile gauze pads 2 boxes Bandaids 2 boxes Alcohol pads 3 ace bandage wraps Bottle of rubbing alcohol Bottle of hydrogen peroxide 1 large pack of fine texture steel wool (for starting fires) 4 boxes waterproof matches Large magnesium fire starter Handheld pocket saw (the metal rope kind) LED flashlight & batteries 6 large green glow sticks 2 emergency blankets 2 boxes of large instant heating pads 2 packs sterile vinyl medical gloves 2 packs of athletic tape 1 bottle ibuprofen 1 bottle acetaminophen 2 large bottle aspirin 1 bottle saline eye drops 1 jar of Icy Hot (not sure why I grabbed this) 1 jar of vasoline Cotton balls & q-tips Manual can opener Spoons, forks, knives Plastic sandwich bags 6 little travel-sized Kleenex Hammer, screwdrivers & Allen keys First Aid kit in my car, with road flares Spare tire, jack & jumper cables Food: 15 gallons of distilled water 3 large boxes mashed potato flakes 20 large cans of various soup (beef, veggie, chicken, etc.) 2 large bags of plain white rice 20 cans of vegetables & fruit 3 packaged boxes of Top Ramen (it was on sale) Clothing 5 complete change of clothes Sturdy tennis shoes & extra socks Hairbrush, toothbrush & general toiletries (still need to find a dry shampoo) SHIT PAPER COLEMAN LANTERN |