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User ID: 43754708 United States 08/26/2013 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go camping for a few days if you haven't been in a while. It's a great practice run. Don't forget dehydrated water. If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
leonine
User ID: 12569974 United States 08/26/2013 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it has not been mentioned yet, and something I have not seen for prep, - Zip-lock bags, all sizes, freezer and storage types, lots of them. And, of course, garbage bags of all sizes. Sun powered dehydration. Quoting: leonine Just don't let food or water come into contact with garbage bags. Most have rat poisoning in them! Getting several 5 gallon buckets with lids and making sure they are food grade will be so very useful. If it rains you can collect water. Store grains, beans, dried goods in the buckets. LOL, guess you know by know I am a prepper. No I don't have most of what I need for my family, just keep getting as much as possible when possible. Economy doesn't allow a middle class family to prep!! First I started with one months worth of food and water. Water is hard to store as it takes so much room but one month is the goal and I met it. Then I worked on having 3 months of food. After that you work on what is called long term storage or LTS. Got most of my lists on my prepping forum [link to www.getreadyforum.com] lizard king |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1152778 United States 08/26/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Highest calorie food by weight AND taking up the smallest amount of space are NUTS ! Those in plastic jars, no matter how thick, leak air and go rancid, especially Costco's. Pay a little more for those in cans, UT they will be O.K. when you NEED THEM ! Ever wonder WHY rats/squirrels spend so MUCH TIME gnawing through the shells ? THEY know what gives them the MOST food value and energy is INSIDE ! Eagle P.S. Plus, most are salted and you WILL need that salt to keep nerves functioning properly. |
leonine
User ID: 12569974 United States 08/26/2013 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol...when shit happens the ones so confident will probably be ill-prepared. You don't know what is going to happen, so why prep not knowing that? Why even prep? Fuck it. I'm going to treat it like a game, it is Survival of the Fittest after all. I'll bank on my wit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40510519 lizard king |
leonine
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45808287 United States 08/26/2013 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You did great, and I see you have some good responses. Someone else said herbs and spices, I would second that, and tea. Vitamins too. Quoting: Vision Thing It's been good for me buying herbs and spices and tea in bulk by the pound at San Francisco Herb Co. [link to www.sfherb.com] I recommend them highly for quality, service and price. My first round of establishing a pantry I got potato flakes too. I found they did not keep very well so maybe plan to use them and rotate them. Everything you buy===use cash. If they start looking for hoarders, your credit records will bring them right to your door. Cash. Cash. Cash. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43601304 Argentina 08/26/2013 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol...when shit happens the ones so confident will probably be ill-prepared. You don't know what is going to happen, so why prep not knowing that? Why even prep? Fuck it. I'm going to treat it like a game, it is Survival of the Fittest after all. I'll bank on my wit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40510519 This. |
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leonine
User ID: 12569974 United States 08/26/2013 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by leonine on 08/26/2013 10:44 PM lizard king |
whiteangel
also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 08/26/2013 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it has not been mentioned yet, and something I have not seen for prep, - Zip-lock bags, all sizes, freezer and storage types, lots of them. And, of course, garbage bags of all sizes. Sun powered dehydration. Quoting: leonine Just don't let food or water come into contact with garbage bags. Most have rat poisoning in them! Getting several 5 gallon buckets with lids and making sure they are food grade will be so very useful. If it rains you can collect water. Store grains, beans, dried goods in the buckets. LOL, guess you know by know I am a prepper. No I don't have most of what I need for my family, just keep getting as much as possible when possible. Economy doesn't allow a middle class family to prep!! First I started with one months worth of food and water. Water is hard to store as it takes so much room but one month is the goal and I met it. Then I worked on having 3 months of food. After that you work on what is called long term storage or LTS. Got most of my lists on my prepping forum [link to www.getreadyforum.com] You can also use them as a rain/snow poncho, ground cover, lean-to, and like you said, a 1000 other things. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
leonine
User ID: 12569974 United States 08/26/2013 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be prepared, is to take much of the fear out of the equation. Fear is the best survival instinct humans have. You are a perfect example of an ostrich, and a fool. Surprised your gene pool is still around. Last Edited by leonine on 08/26/2013 10:48 PM lizard king |
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User ID: 44255165 United States 08/26/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My grandma was a prepper before prepping had a name or was cool. She didn't live in fear, but her pantry was always stocked. Smoked meats that she raised and smoked, rows and rows of canned vegetables, buckets of lard, seeds, and enough to make it if next years crops didn't make it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034800 United States 08/26/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But my opinion is to learn survival skills, what kind of plants near you contain oil? Can you make your own candle? Start looking around areas near you as potential foraging sites-- empty lots, canyons or hills mountains? Where are water sources near you -- rivers streams creeks springs? If there are potential foraging places familiarize yourself with what wild foods are edible - get a wild food guide. Plant your own potential foraging foods in canyons or empty land near you. Amaranth is good, it grows easy and very nutritious, pigeon peas, dandelion, berries. If you have your own garden get rid of all your non- edible plants and replace them with edible ones. Learn how to garden and how to save seeds Learn how to make a rocket stove out of rocks or bricks or even build one in your backyard and learn how to use it. Practice making fire if you run out of matches- what will you do? Learn how to make cordage and practice what kind of plants near you can be used for cordage? Learn how to set traps. Learn how to make your own water purifier with rocks sand and carbon. What will you use to make it with? Plant some gourds so you can have something to carry water in. How did the natives live off the land near where you live? Learn their ancient ways |
Halo2Alexis™
(OP) User ID: 41994758 United States 08/26/2013 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, are you also planning an escape plan as well as the hunker down plan you have in progress? Quoting: M*walk I want to, but i'm stuck on the gulf coast of Florida, so my only chance of escape is taking a main route straight up through the state - which I know will be crowded. My main plan was have everything stocked & loaded in my vehicle (surprisingly its all very lightweight & compact, no more than 10 pounds minus water), so I can jump in & go if I need to evacuate immediately. Not the best plan, but I also don't want to be stuck on a peninsula. I've been checking out various back roads on the map that'll take me away from any major arteries - time consuming yes, but if I can make it to "solid" land I pray to have a chance. At least make some kind of trade with the small amount of medical supplies, or alcohol as mentioned. But as another poster mentioned, its hard to plan when you're not sure exactly what you'll be facing. Everything you buy===use cash. If they start looking for hoarders, your credit records will bring them right to your door. Cash. Cash. Cash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45808287 Absolutely. The second my meager little excuse of a paycheck comes in, it's always pulled directly out of the bank. I spread my purchases around to several local and out of area stores, so I don't get questioning looks. Last thing I'd want to deal with is some random straggler knocking on the door, asking to borrow a couple gallons of water they know I posess "since you bought so much at our store" or something eeky like that. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I can't force people to accept the truth, but I can expose them to it. |
whiteangel
also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 08/26/2013 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they do not! My grandparents and probably your great-grandparents always kept large supplies on hand. Mine went to town once or twice a year for staples. Now we got to the store 2-4 times a week. Being a prepper is preparing your mind and your home for being more self reliant. I buy on sale, thus I save a lot of money. There comes a point that you ONLY buy on sale instead of EVER paying full price for anything. Paying 25 cents for a good tooth brush instead of $2.00+ makes more sense. A prepper isn't preparing for the end of the world, like it shows on t.v. They are being prepared for higher costs of living, unexpected illness, job loss and a whole list of other reasons. There is nothing more satisfying than wanting to make something and knowing you don't have to go to the store to get the ingredients. If SHTF, who is to say those stored items could even be taken with you if you have to bug out???? Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
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whiteangel
also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 08/26/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solar powered yard lights! Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
leonine
User ID: 12569974 United States 08/26/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a good site: [link to givemetheinfo.com] You want to read this site and then print it out. In my searches I found the plan below. Simple, relatively inexpensive. You can buy a year worth of food for less than $200 Quoting: whiteangel The whole plan is as simple as; 200 lbs of pinto beans (per person) 300 lbs of yellow whole kernel corn (per person) 35 lbs of liquid shortening (per person). And that’s it. This will supply almost 2000 calories per day for 365 days. You may notice there’s no freeze dried caviar on the list. [Image: icon_smile.gif] But if you don’t die of epicurean boredom you will survive until the end of the year. And it’s a very good diet too. Both traditionally and scientifically. The Native Americans grew beans, corn and squash, They called them The Three Sisters. They thrived on the diet. The squash was a good addition. Scientifically, a beans and corn diet give a complete array of all the amino acids your body needs to live. They call it a complete protein. You can get a little more information here on complete proteins. [link to www.fitsugar.com] *********************** Beans, no matter how well you stored them, get hard as a rock over time. Yup, they are still good, but hard. A trick to help with this is adding 2 teaspoons of baking soda. I haven't tried it, but it is suppose to help soften the beans and make cooking time less. I store pinto beans as I grew up in the Southwest and to me it is the only REAL bean there is. They have one of the highest protein contents. There are two more but I don't remember which, you will need to research the kinds of beans you like and prep those. You can't cook those beans over a stove all day, so what do you do? You soak them overnight in water, in the morning (currently I dump this water as it helps to remove the reason beans give GAS - after a SHTF you won't be doing this), you heat the beans to a boil, then as you are conserving on fires, you remove from the fire and put in a warmer with a tight lid. This can be done by wrapping the put in a blanket and putting into a bail of hay. The idea is the beans keep cooking all day and by night time they are ready for supper. I think the above link has more info on this. Lard and solid shortening lasts longer than liquid oils, so I don't agree with the above on this. I prep veggie shortening like Crisco. Their site states it lasts 2 years - I know it is fine for 5 and that is opened. Okay, I don't always cook so things sit around, lol. Here is a link to their site: [link to www.crisco.com] Lard lasts a long time. There isn't an exp. date on the containers for a reason. Here is an interesting link: [link to digitaljournal.com] Any idea where to get non-gmo corn? Also, in a pinch, could you crush the beans into a flour? Have not had time to check out your links yet, but thanks for all your help!!! lizard king |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034800 United States 08/26/2013 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plant enough food for yourself and your neighbors to forage near you if everyone has enough to eat people so t fight over it start a neighborhood wild food, foraging and planting group and teach others survival skills. Start community gardens etc. learn what natural foods can be used for healing. I recently learned that I can grow ti plants and their roots can be used as a substitute for aspirin. Kukui or candle it tree nuts can be put on a stick and used as a candle ... Learn survival skills and share your knowledge with others. Get to know your neighbors. Be kind to your neighbors. Make sure people around you are kind and good people. |
PlanBSurvival
User ID: 8569334 United States 08/26/2013 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also think about scenarios on plain ol scavenging, hunting, improvisation, etc...hundreds of pounds of stored food, water and supplies do you no good if you have to pick up shop suddenly...a fire, natural disaster, looters etc. concentrate on a plan b of being mobile and the skills it would take. Adapt and overcome :) As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, and the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire. - Rudyard Kipling When SHTF... PlanBSurvivalsystems.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034800 United States 08/26/2013 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Learn how to make a solar distiller and plastic sheeting for it. Something to collect rain water in off your roof, storage bins Where are you going to put your human waste? Is there a place near you where you can go and bury it? Buckets with lids to carry your waste and a child's potty seat to put on top of it |
whiteangel
also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 08/26/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a good site: [link to givemetheinfo.com] You want to read this site and then print it out. In my searches I found the plan below. Simple, relatively inexpensive. You can buy a year worth of food for less than $200 Quoting: whiteangel The whole plan is as simple as; 200 lbs of pinto beans (per person) 300 lbs of yellow whole kernel corn (per person) 35 lbs of liquid shortening (per person). And that’s it. This will supply almost 2000 calories per day for 365 days. You may notice there’s no freeze dried caviar on the list. [Image: icon_smile.gif] But if you don’t die of epicurean boredom you will survive until the end of the year. And it’s a very good diet too. Both traditionally and scientifically. The Native Americans grew beans, corn and squash, They called them The Three Sisters. They thrived on the diet. The squash was a good addition. Scientifically, a beans and corn diet give a complete array of all the amino acids your body needs to live. They call it a complete protein. You can get a little more information here on complete proteins. [link to www.fitsugar.com] *********************** Beans, no matter how well you stored them, get hard as a rock over time. Yup, they are still good, but hard. A trick to help with this is adding 2 teaspoons of baking soda. I haven't tried it, but it is suppose to help soften the beans and make cooking time less. I store pinto beans as I grew up in the Southwest and to me it is the only REAL bean there is. They have one of the highest protein contents. There are two more but I don't remember which, you will need to research the kinds of beans you like and prep those. You can't cook those beans over a stove all day, so what do you do? You soak them overnight in water, in the morning (currently I dump this water as it helps to remove the reason beans give GAS - after a SHTF you won't be doing this), you heat the beans to a boil, then as you are conserving on fires, you remove from the fire and put in a warmer with a tight lid. This can be done by wrapping the put in a blanket and putting into a bail of hay. The idea is the beans keep cooking all day and by night time they are ready for supper. I think the above link has more info on this. Lard and solid shortening lasts longer than liquid oils, so I don't agree with the above on this. I prep veggie shortening like Crisco. Their site states it lasts 2 years - I know it is fine for 5 and that is opened. Okay, I don't always cook so things sit around, lol. Here is a link to their site: [link to www.crisco.com] Lard lasts a long time. There isn't an exp. date on the containers for a reason. Here is an interesting link: [link to digitaljournal.com] Any idea where to get non-gmo corn? Also, in a pinch, could you crush the beans into a flour? Have not had time to check out your links yet, but thanks for all your help!!! Home grown or health food stores is about all I know. Sad isn't it! With as contaminated as our food supply is and in a SHTF, not sure it will matter anymore, if you know what I mean. Make sure you have Braggs apple cider vinegar, raw honey and cinnamon on hand to help your body detox. Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Texas Prepper User ID: 1394500 United States 08/26/2013 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm on a tight budget also and can get things here and there. When I buy food...I try to buy high caloric food,canned, eat it cold...no cooking. Smells draw attention. Really trying to stock up on feminin hygiene stuff. Powdered milk...it's pricey. Water,water,water...try to get some at every shopping excursion. You sound like you're on your way, though. Good start...better than no start. Now you can build on it a little at a time. Cheap vitamins. I've been wandering about those canisters of protein supplements that body builders use to gain weight. Something you just add water to. Don't care about flavor as much as I do the fuel. Oh yeah...lamp and lamp oil maybe. Boy I'm gonna stop now....I'm jumping all over the place and got my prepping juices flowing. About to go to bed to stare at the ceiling, running scenarios. Sorry for the babbling. Quoting: aylarue You don't need to store tons of water if you supplement with a filter system - Seychelle filters are the best. NDur makes them - sold by ProForce equipment. These filter bacteria AND viruses, where other can't. They also have a filter that takes out radioactive particles - if that's a concern. I know that www.survivorssupply.com (don't know how to insert links) still has a sale for no shipping for some items, and I've used coupon code READY to get 15% off. FWIW. Good luck - glad you've joined the prepper club! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36998602 United States 08/26/2013 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all live in fear. Preppers have a feeling of security that help quell the fear. Prepping gives structure and purpose to any life. It makes you aware of the value of the little things. You are fearful as well...and the first one crying like a girly boy when you have to suck water out of a mud puddle. Got a hobby? I do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33139820 United States 08/26/2013 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I put antacids and anti-diarrhea tablets in my supplies. I figure the stress and unusual eating might upset my stomach a bit. Also, a small bible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42977313 anti diarrhea is important because it dehydrates you. hand sanitizer, multi tool and replace your hammer with an axe/hammer combo. |
whiteangel
also known at WA User ID: 43857184 United States 08/26/2013 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A handy fire starter. Cotton balls with a little petroleum jelly and placed in a small sandwich size resealable baggie. Also, buy or save all your birthday candles. There will take a fire quickly and help your camp fire start faster. Like someone else mentioned, a mass-rocket-stove, will burn almost clean, provide warmth and use very little wood. Do a search on it, you will be amazed. Smoke smell carries long distances, as does cooking food. Learn to cook to high enough heat then wrapping in foil and a blanket to let the cooking finish without giving off so many odors! Isaiah 5:20 KJV Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Thread: Being Prepared - Updated Basic Food List On Page One |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45684487 United States 08/26/2013 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never considered myself a prepper, but with all the potential doom happening in the world, I'm trying to start. At least get something useful put together. I know its kinda late in the game to start a collective project like this, but I'm on a small budget, so looking to see what type of items would be the utmost essential. I literally bought all of the below tonight, and plan to make another trip tomorrow to get other items, just not sure what else. Only managed to spend $98 on the supplies and $60 on the food which didn't seem too bad. Quoting: Halo2Alexis™ I know I'll still need a bottle of bleach, antiseptic & burn ointment, and some protein bars....but I'm just thinking off the top of my head here. What items should I add to what I already have? Current supplies Tools & Medical Large toolbox, which contains the following: 20'x50' plastic sheeting (for sealing doors & windows) Large roll of Duct Tape 4 bottles of water purification tablets 50' black nylon paracord 3 boxes sterile gauze pads 2 boxes Bandaids 2 boxes Alcohol pads 3 ace bandage wraps Bottle of rubbing alcohol Bottle of hydrogen peroxide 1 large pack of fine texture steel wool (for starting fires) 4 boxes waterproof matches Large magnesium fire starter Handheld pocket saw (the metal rope kind) LED flashlight & batteries 6 large green glow sticks 2 emergency blankets 2 boxes of large instant heating pads 2 packs sterile vinyl medical gloves 2 packs of athletic tape 1 bottle ibuprofen 1 bottle acetaminophen 2 large bottle aspirin 1 bottle saline eye drops 1 jar of Icy Hot (not sure why I grabbed this) 1 jar of vasoline Cotton balls & q-tips Manual can opener Spoons, forks, knives Plastic sandwich bags 6 little travel-sized Kleenex Hammer, screwdrivers & Allen keys First Aid kit in my car, with road flares Spare tire, jack & jumper cables Food: 15 gallons of distilled water 3 large boxes mashed potato flakes 20 large cans of various soup (beef, veggie, chicken, etc.) 2 large bags of plain white rice 20 cans of vegetables & fruit 3 packaged boxes of Top Ramen (it was on sale) Clothing 5 complete change of clothes Sturdy tennis shoes & extra socks Hairbrush, toothbrush & general toiletries (still need to find a dry shampoo) Prepping so that you can postpone your existence in a post-apocalyptic world aka hell on earth? No matter what this ends the same, just read the Bible, it's all there. If your not right with God, then your prepping in vain. Only Jesus saves. |