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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 44732846 Italy 08/07/2013 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an enantiomer ( from the Greek ἐνάντιος, opposite, and μέρος, part or portion) is one of two stereoisomersthat are mirror images of each other that are non-superposable (not identical), much as one's left and right hands are the same except for opposite orientation il 29 giugno di quest'anno ho fatto un sogno alquanto strano e mi sono svegliato con queste parole in testa: specchio, come in uno specchio. credo che il terzo segreto dica esso stesso le cose che GPII numerosi Cardinali, Malachi Martin, la nipote di Lucia Maria do Fetal volevano farci capire: il capitolo XII dell'apocalisse e il mistero dell'iniquità; qui riporto cosa ho trascritto quella notte. (il brano di Manasse mi è stato suggerito da una lettera di Monsignor Capovilla, che ovviamente ora è obbligato ad allinearsi al duo onnipresente): Come in uno specchio - Il Terzo Segreto di Fatima Poi li prese per mano tutti e due: diede a Efraim la destra così che stava a sinistra rispetto a Giacobbe e diede la sinistra a Manasse che si trovò così a destra per Giacobbe; li fece avvicinare a suo padre. 14Ma Giacobbe incrociò le braccia e appoggiò la sua mano destra sulla testa di Efraim, benché fosse il minore, e quella sinistra sulla testa di Manasse, che era il primogenito. Sono dette enantiomeri, isomeri ottici o antipodi ottici due molecole identiche in tutto, salvo l'essere una l'immagine speculare dell'altra non sovrapponibili tra loro. 1.Lucia vede un angelo a sinistra, che con la spada che tiene nella mano sinistra sembra incendiare il mondo. Ma le fiamme si spegnevano al contatto dello splendore che Nostra Signora emanava dalla mano destra. Perché? Perché la Madonna dovrebbe spegnere le fiamme di un angelo. Forse che gli angeli e la Madonna non lavorano allo stesso Grande Progetto? L'Angelo indicando con la mano destra. Perché questo continuo utilizzo di sinistro, destro? La valenza bene-male è facile da riconoscere, ma allora perché l'angelo sta a sinistra della Madonna, e perché un poco più in alto? Perché è l'Angelo caduto, l'Angelo ribelle, Satana. Ma allora perché indica la terra con la mano destra e grida “Penitenza, Penitenza, Penitenza”? Perché è un altro Angelo: San Michele. So che può sembrare tutto assurdo e in effetti in questa prima parte qualcosa mi sfugge ancora. Ma credo stia proprio qui il nucleo del Terzo Segreto: deception, inganno. Vediamo e siamo sicuri di quello che stiamo vedendo ma c'è qualcosa che non torna, qualcosa che stride. Riporto qui alcuni versetti del capitolo 12 dell'apocalisse: (se non ricordo male le stesse riprese da Giovanni Paolo II a Fatima): “Poi apparve nel cielo una scena grandiosa: una donna vestita di sole con la testa coronata da dodici stelle e la luna sotto i piedi... All'improvviso nel cielo apparve un altro segno, ecco, un grande drago rosso con sette teste, dieci corna e sette diademi sulle teste. Con la coda trascinava la terza parte delle stelle, e la scagliò sulla terra. Il drago si fermò davanti alla donna.... Poi vi fu una battaglia in cielo: Michele e i suoi angeli combatterono contro il drago e i suoi eserciti di angeli. Ma il drago non riuscì a vincere e nel cielo non ci fu più posto per loro. Questo grande drago, l'antico serpente, chiamato "diavolo" e "Satana", quello che imbroglia il mondo intero, fu scaraventato giù sulla terra, ed anche i suoi angeli con lui. Percio, festeggiate, o cieli! E voi, abitanti dei cieli, gioite! Povera terra e povero mare, perché il diavolo è sceso fra voi pieno di furore, sapendo che gli resta ben poco tempo!" E quando il drago si trovo precipitato sulla terra, si mise ad inseguire la donna che aveva partorito il figlio maschio. Rileggendo ora queste Parole dell'Apocalisse, anche questa prima parte mi sembra più chiara. Tanto che la prima parte del Segreto e la seconda sono collegate dallo specchio (quello che avviene in Cielo avviene sulla terra; ed anche qui avremo un inganno, una terribile illusione che sicuramente nella prima parte è molto più difficile da discernere). 2.La seconda parte è più comprensibile e ci sono più “indizi” che ci dovrebbero far capire qualcosa di veramente assurdo: il Vescovo vestito di Bianco e il Santo Padre sono due persone distinte. Ci sono molti motivi che dovrebbero farcelo pensare ma quello che per me è più eclatante è l'impossibilità durante una Visione di avere un flashback. Se il vescovo era già salito (v. subir) sulla montanha escabrosa come fa a tornare indietro, attraversare una città in rovina, arrivare (chegar) sulla cima del monte? Qui l'inganno che abbiamo e che ha avuto Lucia è pensare che siano la stessa persona. Ma evidentemente sono due persone diverse. E questo spiegherebbe quel Vescovo vestito di Bianco. Un Vescovo, quindi è lì da cercare l'inganno. Nella visione c'è qualcosa che fa pensare a Lucia che quello è un Vescovo prima che un Papa, c'è qualcosa che stride. Riporto ora alcune strane “coincidenze” che ho scoperto leggendo l'appendice del libro “Il quarto Segreto di Fatima” e confrontando le fotocopie originali in portoghese. La croce a cui arriva il Vescovo vestito di Bianco è scritta con l'iniziale minuscola ed è fatta di tronchi grezzi coperti con il sughero, (la mia personalissima interpretazione è che questa non è la CROCE ma è qualcosa di raffazzonato alla bell'e meglio, il sughero sta a rappresentare qualcosa di leggero, una revisione apparentemente verso il meglio delle Leggi eterne che Dio ci ha dato. La Croce a cui arriva il Santo Padre è scritta con l'iniziale maiuscola. E l'ultima Croce, minuscola corretta maiuscola. Perché la parola sacerdotes (quelli che accompagnano il Vescovo) è di nuovo minuscola (corretta) e religiosi e religiose sono scritte sbagliate se appena qualche riga sotto sono scritte in maniera esatta? L'interpretazione è che quel gruppo che pensava di essere nel Vero stava seguendo qualcuno che non era chi sembrava. Infine perché nel gruppo di persone che viene ucciso vengono aggiunti altri tipi di persone rispetto al primo? Semplicemente perchè sono due gruppi diversi. Due molecole enantiomere l'una dell'altra possiedono le medesime proprietà fisiche, tranne una: la capacità di ruotare il piano della luce polarizzata. Tale capacità, definita potere rotatorio, è uguale in valore assoluto ma opposta di segno per ognuno dei due enantiomeri. [link to www.luogocomune.net] 24-8-2007 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44676254 Portugal 08/07/2013 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that was close. fatima it's not christian, it was a myth "stolen" from de moors by the church in order to have a disneyland (€€€€$$$$) for the christians [link to lostislamichistory.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that was close. fatima it's not christian, it was a myth "stolen" from de moors by the church in order to have a disneyland (€€€€$$$$) for the christians [link to lostislamichistory.com] Sorry you feel that way. I believe Fatima is key to end time prophecy and a great wonderful gift of Our Lady to all mankind |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44676254 Portugal 08/07/2013 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that was close. fatima it's not christian, it was a myth "stolen" from de moors by the church in order to have a disneyland (€€€€$$$$) for the christians [link to lostislamichistory.com] Sorry you feel that way. I believe Fatima is key to end time prophecy and a great wonderful gift of Our Lady to all mankind i'm not saying it was or wasnt... but i believe that the church has corrupted the devotion. i hope you can understand portuguese while watching this: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that was close. fatima it's not christian, it was a myth "stolen" from de moors by the church in order to have a disneyland (€€€€$$$$) for the christians [link to lostislamichistory.com] Sorry you feel that way. I believe Fatima is key to end time prophecy and a great wonderful gift of Our Lady to all mankind i'm not saying it was or wasnt... but i believe that the church has corrupted the devotion. i hope you can understand portuguese while watching this: I understand Portuguese..heard enough of what he had to say ..thanks regarding the deaths of Jacinta and Francisco he seems to forget that the Blessed Mother told them they would be leaving soon (dying) and that Lucia wouldnt also I had the privilege to speak to the woman who is known to be Sor Lucias niece in Fatima. And I asked her about Sor Lucia and the third secret. This wonderful amazing elederly lady..in her nineties allegedly visited Lucia..her auntie.. periodically at Coimba and spoke to her about the apparitions and the third secret though allegedly always refused to reveal it though she did allegedly give her some indications which she confided to me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44735121 United Kingdom 08/07/2013 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucia was told by god all mighty who rules over everything there is to reveal the 3rd secret by 1960. She knew what the secret was She took it upon herself to hand the secret to vatican God did not say to her to give it to vatican Her only responsibility was to god and not vatican. Specially if she was told the vatican was corrupt In 1960 vatican did not reveal the secret as they were instructed by god Lucia refused to reveal the secret herself as she was instructed by god She preferred to listen to the very corrupt people that god had warned her against She couldn't have been scared of them for love of god would overcome the need for her own safety She had countless opportunities for over 50 years day after day to come out an reveal the secret as she was instructed to by god almighty. She refused to obay god day after day There is no excuse for this There is no justification for this, since nothing can be above the wishes of god No one can defend her actions She was told to reveal the secret and she failed to do. Simple as that. There are few possibilities for this situations here She was in bed with corrupt vatican The whole thing was a scam The massage was from ETs and not god. Hence no one was disobeying god as such There are so many things wrong with story of Lucia and 3rd secret that I am surprised no one has looked at this thing logically. Everyone is blinded by religion and no one dares to ask a simple question If god almighty who is the creater of all that is and his word is final and above everything in existence... then why did she refuse to reveal the secret regardless of the wishes of vatican or any other force in the universe? Think about this OP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling wáter unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets get this right once and for all Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44735121 Lucia was told by god all mighty who rules over everything there is to reveal the 3rd secret by 1960. She knew what the secret was She took it upon herself to hand the secret to vatican God did not say to her to give it to vatican Her only responsibility was to god and not vatican. Specially if she was told the vatican was corrupt In 1960 vatican did not reveal the secret as they were instructed by god Lucia refused to reveal the secret herself as she was instructed by god She preferred to listen to the very corrupt people that god had warned her against She couldn't have been scared of them for love of god would overcome the need for her own safety She had countless opportunities for over 50 years day after day to come out an reveal the secret as she was instructed to by god almighty. She refused to obay god day after day There is no excuse for this There is no justification for this, since nothing can be above the wishes of god No one can defend her actions She was told to reveal the secret and she failed to do. Simple as that. There are few possibilities for this situations here She was in bed with corrupt vatican The whole thing was a scam The massage was from ETs and not god. Hence no one was disobeying god as such There are so many things wrong with story of Lucia and 3rd secret that I am surprised no one has looked at this thing logically. Everyone is blinded by religion and no one dares to ask a simple question If god almighty who is the creater of all that is and his word is final and above everything in existence... then why did she refuse to reveal the secret regardless of the wishes of vatican or any other force in the universe? Think about this OP What the woman known as the niece told me was that the Blessed Mother allegedly told Lucia to reveal it to the Pope and it was for the Pope alone |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44736070 United Kingdom 08/07/2013 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I think that they were ETs who appeared to the 3 children and played on their inosence and faith. All the signs during the visits allude to this. A disc shape object the the kids thought was the sun moving around and hologram of the Mary based on faith of children designed to appear to them. Simple and easy task for those who have the ability to hyper space. This is why I think the vatican clearly knew that this event has nothing to do with god. They knew that ETs were trying to warn people of the world from their corruptions and they set out to block this message. Clearly ETs had a direct hand off policy. They could only warn of event to come and not able to interfere physically. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1870500 United States 08/07/2013 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling oil unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes Go to the original copy: [link to www.thirdsecretoffatima.com] [link to www.ourladyisgod.com] [link to www.fatimamovement.com] and help take the Church back from these bastards |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44736070 United Kingdom 08/07/2013 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets get this right once and for all Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44735121 Lucia was told by god all mighty who rules over everything there is to reveal the 3rd secret by 1960. She knew what the secret was She took it upon herself to hand the secret to vatican God did not say to her to give it to vatican Her only responsibility was to god and not vatican. Specially if she was told the vatican was corrupt In 1960 vatican did not reveal the secret as they were instructed by god Lucia refused to reveal the secret herself as she was instructed by god She preferred to listen to the very corrupt people that god had warned her against She couldn't have been scared of them for love of god would overcome the need for her own safety She had countless opportunities for over 50 years day after day to come out an reveal the secret as she was instructed to by god almighty. She refused to obay god day after day There is no excuse for this There is no justification for this, since nothing can be above the wishes of god No one can defend her actions She was told to reveal the secret and she failed to do. Simple as that. There are few possibilities for this situations here She was in bed with corrupt vatican The whole thing was a scam The massage was from ETs and not god. Hence no one was disobeying god as such There are so many things wrong with story of Lucia and 3rd secret that I am surprised no one has looked at this thing logically. Everyone is blinded by religion and no one dares to ask a simple question If god almighty who is the creater of all that is and his word is final and above everything in existence... then why did she refuse to reveal the secret regardless of the wishes of vatican or any other force in the universe? Think about this OP What the woman known as the niece told me was that the Blessed Mother allegedly told Lucia to reveal it to the Pope and it was for the Pope alone That is just ,hear say, and trying to justify her actions. But we know that she only wrote is down and gave it to pope on advice of the local priest. God never said, give it to pope. As I said, my clear assumption is that these messages came from ETs. Throughout history countless number of appearances have happened to various people. If these kids were in the east, instead of Mary, Buddha would have appeared to them. It was all a holograme. You may ask, why something like this did not happen in the east? Because at the time vatican was the most influential body in the world that was able to change the course of human history for the masses. It stands to reason that the main source of influence in the world be approach directly. Then why these children? Children are receptive and much more sensitive to vibrational energies. ETs are not able to get in touch with us through technological means because we are far too primitive for their form of communication. Best form of communication is through the biological body and mind of human beings. This is the best direct form of communication as far as ETs are concerned. This is why there are so many chanellers bringing in messages. In 1917, it seems that these children were chosen because perhaps they were the best form of chanellers at that moment. Logically, this explanation clears almost all questions regarding the whole story |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44046199 United States 08/07/2013 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling oil unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes This beautiful children ..is true their hearts are pure. But after they get to adulthood ..I just wander,why she didn't push to talk to the pope,if the secret was not reveal afterwards ...why she didn't follow Gods orders? Just tryin to figure that out..What did the niece told you? Can you say a little bit? Thanks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling oil unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes This beautiful children ..is true their hearts are pure. But after they get to adulthood ..I just wander,why she didn't push to talk to the pope,if the secret was not reveal afterwards ...why she didn't follow Gods orders? Just tryin to figure that out..What did the niece told you? Can you say a little bit? Thanks. The old lady known as the niece..said that she asked her about the third secret..Lucia would not reveal it so the niece allegedly asked her "if the world would to know it what would happen?" and Sor Lucia allegedly replied "some would be happy, others would not" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling oil unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes This beautiful children ..is true their hearts are pure. But after they get to adulthood ..I just wander,why she didn't push to talk to the pope,if the secret was not reveal afterwards ...why she didn't follow Gods orders? Just tryin to figure that out..What did the niece told you? Can you say a little bit? Thanks. The old lady known as the niece..said that she asked her about the third secret..Lucia would not reveal it so the niece allegedly asked her "if the world would know it what would happen?" and Sor Lucia allegedly replied "some would be happy, others would not be" fixed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43813351 United States 08/07/2013 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling wáter unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes Sounds a lot like the early church. The disciples were threatened with every manner of death for sticking to their ridiculous story of a risen Christ. It didn't dissuade them. They continued to preach it. All but one dying for the priviledge. How could anyone doubt their sincerity if they are willing to die? NO ONE will be willing to die for a lie, only a truth they know deep into their souls. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling wáter unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes Sounds a lot like the early church. The disciples were threatened with every manner of death for sticking to their ridiculous story of a risen Christ. It didn't dissuade them. They continued to preach it. All but one dying for the priviledge. How could anyone doubt their sincerity if they are willing to die? NO ONE will be willing to die for a lie, only a truth they know deep into their souls. Exactly Whole Roman Patrician families..parents..childreneven maids and slaves etc..butchered and fed to thelions because Christian..they not only renounced to their privileges and riches but to their lives and to their families name becoming extinct..the death of all of them..rather tan renounce Christ like you say..who would be willing to do this for a lie? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling wáter unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes Sounds a lot like the early church. The disciples were threatened with every manner of death for sticking to their ridiculous story of a risen Christ. It didn't dissuade them. They continued to preach it. All but one dying for the priviledge. How could anyone doubt their sincerity if they are willing to die? NO ONE will be willing to die for a lie, only a truth they know deep into their souls. Exactly Whole Roman Patrician families..parents..childreneven maids and slaves etc..butchered and fed to thelions because Christian..they not only renounced to their privileges and riches but to their lives and to their families name becoming extinct..the death of all of them..rather tan renounce Christ like you say..who would be willing to do this for a lie? they faced their death singing hymns of praise to Christ if you ever go to Rome..between the turists..and the Street vendors and camera snap shots.. remember them..because their bloos soaked that earth..and they did this for love of Christ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44682893 Spain 08/07/2013 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These children were allegedly threatened with death in boiling wáter unless they revealed the thrid secret..they didnt Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44682893 a hoax? children incarcerated and threatened with death that stick to the story? yeah sure.. come on guys.... look into these beautiful childrens eyes Sounds a lot like the early church. The disciples were threatened with every manner of death for sticking to their ridiculous story of a risen Christ. It didn't dissuade them. They continued to preach it. All but one dying for the priviledge. How could anyone doubt their sincerity if they are willing to die? NO ONE will be willing to die for a lie, only a truth they know deep into their souls. Exactly Whole Roman Patrician families..parents..childreneven maids and slaves etc..butchered and fed to thelions because Christian..they not only renounced to their privileges and riches but to their lives and to their families name becoming extinct..the death of all of them..rather tan renounce Christ like you say..who would be willing to do this for a lie? they faced their death singing hymns of praise to Christ if you ever go to Rome..between the turists..and the Street vendors and camera snap shots.. remember them..because their blood soaked that earth..and they did this for love of Christ fixed..sorry for typos |
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